Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
- Thread starter DragonParadox
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It disperses it over the volume of liquid we hide in, from my understanding.
Anyway... @DragonParadox when you return - do we have any focus for Alec or Izzy? The idea is we spend a mote to ask "does the captor of the person shown here knows that Molly Carpenter is not in NeverNever?". If yes, answer, if no, ignore for element of surprise.
Alternative approach is to roll empathy and intimidate. I mean, social-specked exalt. It might work if we try well enough.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
[X] Don't answer, keep him guessing until Harry gets here
Better not to hear the threats.
Better not to hear the threats.
we can look at our phone and Ask A Question about our caller. any ideas? also we need a mage to create a sep field and a distraction.ghouls can survive car crashes,right? sreal two cars, let twoof them crash into each other nearby.use the moment to create sep field and safe the hostages
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fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I guess that we can ask for the caller's current location.
Some of that is fair, and covered under the resource dot requirements for the projects. I just take issue with the unnecessary risks in some of it or spending rare resources we don't have to on flavor.
Magical jade is going to be hard to acquire, when we use it it should be to do something. Like how the gossamer is likely to be key to making at least one splendor work.
I appreciate you going the extra mile, it certainly makes the items better, I just don't want new attack surfaces or waste.
Yeah, but I still think it's worth noting and perhaps avoiding making something that outplays our own core features. Not to hoard power, but because outdoing an exaltation in this manner seems like a red flag.
There's some overlap, but the similarities don't necessarily mean only one side can perform particular functions.
The 3 dot prodigy example is a minor Time Machine:
That doesn't mean such effects are solely the domain of prodigies though.
That's neat, but I'd limit it to the user. Group stuff is flagged as cause to spike the rating, and we already need a reagent and flaws to make a 3 dot effect work for a mortal.
Depending on the exact model of car I think we could pull a nasty cyber Devil trick.
The air conditioning system and air flow for the engine intake are different, but they have libes running near each other.
Force a vent valve error like one of these and then burst a heating line in the right place relative to the compressor by playing with the pressure.
That lets you pass fuel-air mix through a computer controlled heating element, which could be overheated at the last mile to spray fire into the driver and passenger seats without hitting the back.
We pick a place where their aren't many people around, then fry them while maneuvering them off the road.
- Location
- washington
That does kind of get her in trouble when shit inevitably blows up. Could see her demoted.
don't particularly care about her career. Its just a job.
- Location
- washington
I mean its a large part of her identity though and kinda a dick move on our part.
Also takes away our only cop contact. Not that shes very useful when we have our crown for information.
- Location
- Brazil
Well she cares, a lot, and this attitude of ignoring the will of allies will make us run out of allies fast.
As an aside, it's too bad we were so on task for this; turning the Atlantic Ocean into one big eye must be a real head trip.
Politics mostly. No masquerade police exist* to smack us down exactly, but people will be less willing to work with us.
* other than the usual whoever's around, learns of it in time, and thinks they can do something about it, but this is happening too fast for that to be a concern.
It's nominal purpose is to hide us, so it has some coverage, but I think we have WoG that it isn't perfect. Supernatural senses pointed the right way could catch us.
It also gives the game away early. The cops need time to move and our association is a known factor.
Ideally we want to strike in the uncertainty band where BS doesn't know we're active.
- Location
- Estonia
[X] Don't answer, keep him guessing until Harry gets here
I can't imagine anything we could say or hear here that would be worth it to give away that we are already in Chicago.
If we don't, then I think we would still want prepared and controlled disclosure on our terms. Preferably after we have gotten human magic users more organized, figured out a better way to police warlocks and how to handle diplomacy between humans and non-humans, and have beneficial magical products to offer to mundanes, to avoid magic being seen as only a threat.
Making magical violence and collateral damage - and the freaking skinwalkers - mundane humanity's first introduction to the magical world is going to greatly increase the chance it will go for the full anti-supernatural witch hunt mode reaction, not handle things rationally.
So it's less about "who will punish us", but more if we want to be responsible for things likely going to shit.
I can't imagine anything we could say or hear here that would be worth it to give away that we are already in Chicago.
If we don't, then I think we would still want prepared and controlled disclosure on our terms. Preferably after we have gotten human magic users more organized, figured out a better way to police warlocks and how to handle diplomacy between humans and non-humans, and have beneficial magical products to offer to mundanes, to avoid magic being seen as only a threat.
Making magical violence and collateral damage - and the freaking skinwalkers - mundane humanity's first introduction to the magical world is going to greatly increase the chance it will go for the full anti-supernatural witch hunt mode reaction, not handle things rationally.
So it's less about "who will punish us", but more if we want to be responsible for things likely going to shit.
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Pretty much this.
Naagloshi counts on us going to some lengths to not reveal magic...
And I honestly do not care.
Now, all the bystanders being potential hostages is a problem for Molly, but actually not using magic fearing its reveal far less so, in my opinion.
A resurected T-rex once rampaged thou downtown a quick flyby is nothing to the Dresden Masquerade.
Formalizing the mundane material anti-magic design process could also be key.
Even if it's not as good without our direct effort, being able to personally do something that technically helps is a balm to paranoia and likely very useful on low level threats.
Learning someone could kill you by jinxing your car without anyone being able to stop or notice it scary, but would feel a lot less helplessly so if the next model year of you car is rated up to minor sorcerer level resistance. Just to name one example.
Worth noting he thinks we'll value it because most of the people breaking it rightfully see it as a tool for spreading death and chaos at industrial levels.
It can't stay forever, but just destroying it without a real management strategy in place is taking a moral stand on a pretty sizable corpse pile.
- Location
- Estonia
The thing is Masquerade itself has potential "hostages" - peaceful non-humans and low-level human talents, or even just some neo-pagans/New Agers mistaken for real magic users.
Even if most of humanity would take a sudden violent disclosure well (which itself is unlikely, compared to lashing out in panic), authoritarian and theocratic governments could still perform some serious atrocities as a result.
And we have done no prep work to even try to handle any of it.
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Let me flip this argument on its head. 4 and 5 dot Splendor and Arcana crafting are pretty much the epitome of Exalted wonderforging. There's nothing more complex, hard, and expensive (in time, essence and rare resources) that an exalt can make. Exaltation are vestiges of the Age of Legends, yes, but if an exalt, when going all out, and doing the hardest possible ting, can't make something that even approaches them in one specific area? That's pretty sad. The level of accomplishment should be represented by the level of effort, and making high level splendors is absolutely something that requires a lot of effort, and thus deserving a good result.
Which is to say that I think spending hard-to-get unique resources, AP (probably multiple ones at that, quite possibly) and in-game effort should allow us to make individuals capable of standing somewhat on par with us in some ways. It's a result of more than a year of real life questing, after all.
Gossamer is almost certainly going to be the core of the ring, it maps just so well, there's no other choice in my mind. As to where to get jade - I expect Odin's elves to be able to sell us some for money.
Yeah, ok, user-limited "experience the text written and stamped" effect seems reasonable.
[x] Plan sudden Reversal.
-[x] Use Hollow Mind Possession on the Network tower, that Izzy phone uses, have it track Broken Seeker location.
-[x] Fly to the hostages while Dresden and Micheal head to Broken Seeker location.
-[x] Once Dresden and Micheal are in position, comedown and slice the roof off the van, and grab the hostages, while knocking out the thugs, and get out drop then off somewhere out of the way. Then fly to link up with Dresden and Micheal, time to end Broken Seeker
If clippy can send an out of area message, it will know the correct network tower to take over. And the tower will be linked to the Izzy phone, and know it location. Get the hostages, to safety they cannot see Molly come down out of the sky. Once they are safe, we will be ready to take out Broken Seeker.
-[x] Use Hollow Mind Possession on the Network tower, that Izzy phone uses, have it track Broken Seeker location.
-[x] Fly to the hostages while Dresden and Micheal head to Broken Seeker location.
-[x] Once Dresden and Micheal are in position, comedown and slice the roof off the van, and grab the hostages, while knocking out the thugs, and get out drop then off somewhere out of the way. Then fly to link up with Dresden and Micheal, time to end Broken Seeker
If clippy can send an out of area message, it will know the correct network tower to take over. And the tower will be linked to the Izzy phone, and know it location. Get the hostages, to safety they cannot see Molly come down out of the sky. Once they are safe, we will be ready to take out Broken Seeker.
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Going to be honest, if the only risk was exposure, my answer would be *what Masquerade?
*But with the innocents around....
And even in the books there were partly very noticeable masquerade violations that amounted to pretty much nothing.
Now, I am not insistent on going loud throwing explicit magic everywhere, but I would certainly not decline a plan because of it being blatantly magical.
Otherwise relying on Molly's unwillingness to do obvious magic would become a very tempting go to strategy for any future adversary.
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It's not like our hands are tied, we just need to be a little careful.
I already posted a low impact strategy that still involves using demon summoning to kit bash flame throwers while performing a hijacking. Not exactly denying ourselves the use of supernatural power here.
We're not autobot, some things are beyond reach.
- Location
- Who knows?
I highly doubt Murphy, a fairly low ranking and not popular member of the police, has the authority to suddenly shut down traffic just on her say so. This sort of thing generally requires time since everyone drives.