Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

It wasn't last time. If you call Odin when you are in trouble he isn't going to charge us based on how hard it is for him to help you, but based on how much he can soak you for to take advantage of your desperation.

We don't have to admit the lesser skinwalker was following us. We can say we caught something nasty spying on him and take credit for dealing with his problem.
 
Nuclear Waste is easy to source (don't ask me how, I am fairly sure it's illegal for me to outright give instructions). Enriched uranium is a whole different thing. It's enriched that's problematic.
The point is to demonstrate that this shit is much less secure than you would think, even in supposedly lawful countries in Western Europe.

Combine this with the prevalence of nuclear power plants in central and eastern Europe, as well as the third world reactors in South Africa, South America and Indian subcontinent, which are all countries with somewhat more permissive regulatory structures, and whose reactors require regular shipments of both enriched uranium fuel and the removal of waste.
Getting small quantities of enriched material for wizards and sorcerers is going to be only a matter of money.
And less money than you might suspect, given the difference in cost of living.
The problem is shipment, and with the Ways of the NeverNever for shipment, its not a problem.

I mean, there's two reactors in what would be Red Court-controlled Mexico in the Dresdenverse.

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Supernatural secrets. +2 Essence recovery
 
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Do you guys think asking Monoc Securities to play jail wardens would cost us excessively?
We can ask.
Piotr is right there in the carriage.

To be fair, Crowned With Fury would solve a bunch of problems right there with containing PoWs.
Eliminates the "Must I kill them in cold blood" quandary for all but the most powerful captured opponents.

We could still mutilate this one if absolutely necessary to mitigate the threat without killing him.
But thats an option that we shouldnt immediately jump to.
 
We learned what we can from him, and we have places to be ASAP. Just kill him and he done with it.

[X] Kill Hank as efficiently as you can, the world is a better place without his madness and you need to get back home
 
So, I am noticing that for the second update out of three, moon is the center of our attention. And chimeric Luna is one of the things that might have left something behind. I wonder what it would take to get to the NeverNever moon.

Ok, so it is waiting for a second signal. Likely has someone watching the Way out of Nevernever. So, we shouldn't exit there. We should either find another way out, or head back to Odin, then use RVD to get into Chicago undetected.

@DragonParadox, how long would it take us to get to
a) Exit we were moving towards
b) Back to Odin's workshop
c) Some other way out of NeverNever, ideally one near a waterway

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So, I am noticing that for the second update out of three, moon is the center of our attention. And chimeric Luna is one of the things that might have left something behind. I wonder what it would take to get to the NeverNever moon.

Ok, so it is waiting for a second signal. Likely has someone watching the Way out of Nevernever. So, we shouldn't exit there. We should either find another way out, or head back to Odin, then use RVD to get into Chicago undetected.

@DragonParadox, how long would it take us to get to
a) Exit we were moving towards
b) Back to Odin's workshop
c) Some other way out of NeverNever, ideally one near a waterway

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  1. It's about an hour and a half to get back, half an hour to the exist you ere heading towards
  2. Technically you can exit right here, you would end up some place in Bavaria near the alps
  3. To get to some place in North America that is not the Chicago exit you would have to take a hour long drive to a stable with (well behaved) man eating horses that opens into a bookie's office in New York
 
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So the people grabbed were Izzy and Alec; Im guessing that everyone in Cauldron spending the last weekend in Last Station made it prohibitively difficult to plan snatches of them. And Thomas is too hard a target to sneak up on.
Still have to call everyone else to lay low.

We need to check their homes to find out whether their families were hit, or if they were grabbed off the streets.
Also, we can grab things from their bedrooms as foci for tracking them.
Alternatively, when the naagloshii calls, just HMP the phone and have the cyberdevil report on the cellphone location.

Speaking of phones?
The fact that the naagloshii has a cellphone is bad. Because it means its spies can probably call in, and it lets him coordinate.

12 skinwalkers, plus Broken Seeker, for lucky number thirteen.
And that doesnt count the others out doing recon, which I would estimate potentially anywhere from half to two times that number, not counting our prisoner. 6-24 extra, with 12 as the median.

Pity we dont have All-Devouring Depths or World-Grinding Devastation. Then we'd be able to reduce things to a duel.

Even if we could hire Monoc as meatshields, I doubt we'd have either the time, or critically, be able to bring them in stealthily with skinwalker spies abroad in the city and along the Ways under veils.

And because Molly is a mobile darkhallow of magical intensity that can be sensed at a distance, we cant actually sneak up on the naagloshii or its minions.
Not without a charm we dont have.

So we kinda have to think in small numbers: people both survivable, with the nerve to be airlifted, and with the mental fortitude to face a naagloshii and survive. Lydia + wooden drones. Harry. Michael if he is in town. Thomas. Mouse.
Carry them with MHM. Locate the lair and just drop in by air at full speed.

Wish we had bought the Rage Recast Swift Stride now. That doubling of land velocity would have made a difference.
Guess speedboost items are a Crafting priority.

PS
Harry being the target is an assassination attempt on a White Council Warden regional commander in the middle of a war
I guess we dont have much in the way of doubt about who would hire out such a thing in wartime.
Should remember to use the body of someone to confirm it, though.
I mean I'm not paying them to keep this guy if they want they can take him and get information from him. Information's worth a lot in this world.
^^^
Couple decades of life under a naagloshii is a shitton of occult knowledge.
Whether we are keeping the dude as a project(We'll have a Hell at the end of the month) or handing him off to the Library or to Odin, there are pragmatic reasons not to kill him. Not to mention that Curiosity is Molly's Urge.

And Molly being a high Empathy, high Morality Infernal is kinda her key concept.

Furthermore?
Broken Seeker is unlikely to be the only naagloshii walking around.
And there's good odds we'll come to blows with more. Learning about them helps.
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  1. It's about an hour and a half to get back, half an hour to the exist you ere heading towards
  2. Technically you can exit right here, you would end up some place in Bavaria near the alps
  3. To get to some place in North America that is not the Chicago exit you would have to take a hour long drive to a stable with (well behaved) man eating horses that opens into a bookie's office in New York
@DragonParadox
QUESTION
Is it 1.5 hours back even with Molly carrying the Carriage and going full speed with Windborn Stride at 10x base speed?
 
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To get to some place in North America that is not the Chicago exit you would have to take a hour long drive to a stable with (well behaved) man eating horses that opens into a bookie's office in New York
What if we don't limit ourselves to North America? Any shore of any continent, any river even.
Technically you can exit right here, you would end up some place in Bavaria near the alps
Any chance Piotr has a satellite phone? Ask him to step out and make a call then. Warn Harry and Michael and others. Fairly sure that's a basic cash-worthy favor, not favor-worthy one.
 
[X] Kill Hank as efficiently as you can, the world is a better place without his madness and you need to get back home
 
if fucking anything they owe us for keeping him not the other way around. Not that we'd play it like that we aren't bargaining someones life for gain at least not right now.

Also uh I recommend calling our friends and asking them to grab something we can use for essence regen.
 
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Even if we could hire Monoc as meatshields, I doubt we'd have either the time, or critically, be able to bring them in stealthily with skinwalker spies abroad in the city and along the Ways under veils.
Depending on the location, HMP some trucks. Those should work as meatshields. Or quick-make wooden statues out of appropriate material for Lydia to animate.
Wish we had bought the Rage Recast Swift Stride now. That doubling of land velocity would have made a difference.
Sadly, it remains only buyable once. We have talked about this, it's very clear.
Broken Seeker is unlikely to be the only naagloshii walking around.
If we are getting the crafting charm, enacting a decimation in response to that attack seems like an appropriately infernal thing to do. Just... go and kill every tenth naagloshii in United States. Harvest their souls for our works of wonder, and leave a message clearly explaining why no one touches what's ours.

Anyway, the vote:

[X] Cripple him so he takes a long time to regenerate, then ask Piotr if Monoc Securities would be willing to hold him for a bit for you in exchange for cash and whatever intelligence they get out of him (to be shared with you).
 
Depending on the location, HMP some trucks. Those should work as meatshields. Or quick-make wooden statues out of appropriate material for Lydia to animate.

Sadly, it remains only buyable once. We have talked about this, it's very clear.

If we are getting the crafting charm, enacting a decimation in response to that attack seems like an appropriately infernal thing to do. Just... go and kill every tenth naagloshii in United States. Harvest their souls for our works of wonder, and leave a message clearly explaining why no one touches what's ours.

Anyway, the vote:

[X] Cripple him so he takes a long time to regenerate, then ask Piotr if Monoc Securities would be willing to hold him for a bit for you in exchange for cash and whatever intelligence they get out of him (to be shared with you).
why would we want cash? Especially if that takes away from the intelligence? We have so many ways to make cash its ridiculous.
 
So the people grabbed were Izzy and Alec; Im guessing that everyone in Cauldron spending the last weekend in Last Station made it prohibitively difficult to plan snatches of them. And Thomas is too hard a target to sneak up on.
Still have to call everyone else to lay low.
Also Izzy and Alec are our friends.

Thomas and the Order are closer to business-relationships.

The Nagloshii knows how to hurt people, and the muggles getting tortured or killed soley for their connection to Molly is propably worse than people who are already involved with the supernatural dying to it.
For her I mean.
 
why would we want cash? Especially if that takes away from the intelligence? We have so many ways to make cash its ridiculous.
I meant us paying them. They get him as a prisoner, and we pay them for the trouble in money and the opportunity to interrogate him. Let's make it clearer

[X] Cripple him so he takes a long time to regenerate, then ask Piotr if Monoc Securities would be willing to hold him for a bit for you in exchange for you paying them in cash and whatever intelligence they get out of him (to be shared with you).
-[X] "I would have taken you with me, little squirrel, but then I'd have to watch my back. So, instead you'll get to talk to some nice people, and tell them everything you know. Be a nice squirrel, and you'll maybe even survive. And so you are less trouble, here, this might sting a bit" - you say, before severing Hank's tendons with your sword in a quick, and almost surgical series of strikes. It will take him at least a day to heal those wounds.
 
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QUESTION
Is it 1.5 hours back even with Molly carrying the Carriage and going full speed with Windborn Stride at 10x base speed?

No, that is riding in the cartridge normally, divide by three for Molly speed

What if we don't limit ourselves to North America? Any shore of any continent, any river even.

Any chance Piotr has a satellite phone? Ask him to step out and make a call then. Warn Harry and Michael and others. Fairly sure that's a basic cash-worthy favor, not favor-worthy one.

*rolls*
  1. You could jump down a hole that leads leads up an old vulcanic tube near the coast in 'some gods forsaken place in the Antarctic Ocean', that is 24/8 minutes, but you would get attacked by something called 'Blood Ice Harpies', as far as Molly understands they are harpies made of frozen blood. Piotr is not sure whose, but he really wishes they had kept it, those things are nasty
  2. He does yes
 
I meant us paying them. They get him as a prisoner, and we pay them for the trouble in money and the opportunity to interrogate him. Let's make it clearer

[X] Cripple him so he takes a long time to regenerate, then ask Piotr if Monoc Securities would be willing to hold him for a bit for you in exchange for you paying them in cash and whatever intelligence they get out of him (to be shared with you).
-[X] "I would have taken you with me, little squirrel, but then I'd have to watch my back. So, instead you'll get to talk to some nice people, and tell them everything you know. Be a nice squirrel, and you'll maybe even survive. And so you are less trouble, here, this might sting a bit" - you say, before severing Hank's tendons with your sword in a quick, and almost surgical series of strikes. It will take him at least a day to heal those wounds.
fuck no we are literally giving them a free prisoner with valuable knowledge if anything they owe us. This makes us not only gullible and abusable but kind of stupid. We either kill him or they take the prisoner who likely has info they'll use.
 
No, that is riding in the cartridge normally, divide by three for Molly speed



*rolls*
  1. You could jump down a hole that leads leads up an old vulcanic tube near the coast in 'some gods forsaken place in the Antarctic Ocean', that is 24/8 minutes, but you would get attacked by something called 'Blood Ice Harpies', as far as Molly understands they are harpies made of frozen blood. Piotr is not sure whose, but he really wishes they had kept it, those things are nasty
  2. He does yes
They occupy the entire region? Isn't that a bit of an exaggeration?
 
[X] Kill Hank as efficiently as you can, the world is a better place without his madness and you need to get back home
Dont play the Catholic girl and jump to the most expedient option at first blush.

Any chance Piotr has a satellite phone? Ask him to step out and make a call then. Warn Harry and Michael and others. Fairly sure that's a basic cash-worthy favor, not favor-worthy one.
Why?
Molly can pay cellphone roaming charges if necessary.
Her phone can do it, and Bunny is still in Harry's basement in the Nokia.

Depending on the location, HMP some trucks. Those should work as meatshields. Or quick-make wooden statues out of appropriate material for Lydia to animate.
No time.
Expect to be in combat within fifteen to thirty minutes of landing in Chicago.

Sadly, it remains only buyable once. We have talked about this, it's very clear.
Nah, we can buy it twice.
It only works once though, so it doesnt stack. Still, we can build speed multipliers at Enchantment 2 or with Exalted Crafting.

If we are getting the crafting charm, enacting a decimation in response to that attack seems like an appropriately infernal thing to do. Just... go and kill every tenth naagloshii in United States. Harvest their souls for our works of wonder, and leave a message clearly explaining why no one touches what's ours.
[X] Cripple him so he takes a long time to regenerate, then ask Piotr if Monoc Securities would be willing to hold him for a bit for you in exchange for cash and whatever intelligence they get out of him (to be shared with you).
Right now, Im thinking
1)Go back to the Mountain, carrying Hank and the carriage with MHM. Leave Hank there.
2)Call people on our cellphone from there
3)Use RVD to return to Chicago, avoiding the spies on/along the Ways; Bone Mountain, Hadley is on the Connecticut River, which empties into the North Atlantic. We'll be back in Chicago in minutes.
4)Visit Alec/Izzy's home, grab something from their bedrooms as a foci to find them
5)Drop in by air
 
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