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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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I would much rather address the Outsider. Plus this is cool as shit.
[x] Ignore the guards, kill that thing now
-[x] [Stunt] "You Cannot Hide. I SEE You. There Is Nothing For You Here. Only...Death." You then use one of the guards as a springboard to somersault right in the middle of them all, your aura promising death to all that approach, the eyes in it vigilant to any and all attacks they could try to send your way.
 
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Alratan said:
If we take the Mana Maggot Plague, we may be better off disposing of Lara and persuading Thomas to be our puppet ruler, as he's less likely to make trouble.
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First as evil as Lara can be, she cared for and raised Thomas after his mother ran away, he even awkwardly tried to smooth over her actions for us earlier, and she really did worry about him.

Doing this with her (killing her when we might not need her) just because we can (besides being against Molly's character, we would have to either spend our own time administering the Court (when we no longer have time for almost anything personal) or we'll have to find someone else who: will be difficult to be accepted by others, whose mindset we won't know or if they have the right skills etc) and then asking him to act like the White King is not going to make Thomas happy.

And second has already been showing that he doesn't want anything, especially a leadership role, with the White Court. I prefer to respect his wishes.

(Even though, with MMP, we can make him pack so much power to rival the peak of the current White King, after all even when he was in the Wampire equivalent of anorexia he was still a dangerous wampire, which is my future plan. After all, a White Prince a full power will be useful when we need another great player, as we can call in a favor and make Lara bring an Elder to increase the disciplines he has access to)

And I just realized our circle can be called made by different royalty both in power, human resources and influence: a Demon Empress with a realm in the NeverNever and thousands of servants, the Crown Princess to the Welsh realm of the dead and the last male son of the current White King, with the potential to match or surpass his father.

@DragonParadox after we gave perfect control to Thomas, did he make the smart decision and start storing a good amount of energy or did he still continue to only consume enough to survive? And the wampires we have at the station, they're already getting better from the horrible state they were when we found them, but did they at least get some reserve if for whatever reason the MiS stops?
 
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BronzeTongue said:
That phrase has been inverted from its original meaning. You don't improve the validity of a rule by demonstrating its flaws than you improve the bouncy of a boat by shooting holes in it.

Every spirit killer works differently, and there isn't anything saying Abyssals are any more exclusive in their effect than anyone else.

I'm not talking about anyone using exalted charms anyway, just demonstrating that effects exist and there constitute an option when building big league players. Assuming the setting is beneath us when exalts have been scaled down to fit it is a mistake.
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It's the true meaning of the exception that proves the rule because only abyssals get the effect because only abyssals are that exceptionally killy, while the exalted that aren't just get conventional spirit killers.
 
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[X] Order the remaining Skavis vampires to stand down (Lets you handle the lord without distraction if it works)
-[X]Intimidation Excellency: 1m
-[X]STUNT: You are abruptly, incandescently furious. "Dont you dare put that evil on me, dead man." You snarl, addressing what tattered remnants there are of the Skavis patriarch. "This was all you." Your feet touch the ground and you begin to move towards the figure, crunching through fallen glass. "Was. Before you sacrificed your son and your soul to an Outsider." You pause midstep, and side eye the Skavis retainers, along with half the eyes in the corona of virescent fire around you. No words are spoken. None are needed.


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This is a bonus XP thing. If we pass it, we get bonus XP and a 1v1 duel.
If we dont, Lydia comes in behind us as backup as it becomes 2 v 4.
No reason not to attempt it.

Molly rolls Charisma 3 + Intimidation 4 + Excellency 7 + Stunt 2 for a total of 16 dice.
Demonic Primacy of Essence also applies here to the lesser Skavis vampires, so -2DC.

And whatever loyalty they had to the former duke is probably undermined by his body murdering his own son, and suddenly sounding like something out of Event Horizon.
So this should be around DC4 or so.

Inspiration:


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Incidentally, Talladega Nights came out in August 2006 :V
 
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Carrnage said:
Is this place warded against the fairy?
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No idea.
The fact that a non-resident was able to summon a heavyweight Outsider here with a blood sacrifice and zero prep time suggests that if there's a ward against spiritual entities, its not strong enough to stop the real heavyweights of the setting.

fictionfan said:
You don't need a ward for that just avoid giving invitation. Fairies are more sensitive to thresholds then anything else we see.
Or are you asking if there is a ward against making portals to the never-never here? Seems likely.
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1)Faerie can cross thresholds without invitation if they mean no harm to the inhabitants.
And I dont know if this portion of the estate has a threshold anyway.
Homes get thresholds, and I dont know if this place counts.

2)There's no ward against making portals to the NeverNever on the Raith Estate.
There may be wards that detect any such passage and alert the residents and security, but there are no preventive wards.
In canon, both Vito Malvora and Harry Dresden had no trouble opening Ways to the NeverNever on the Raith Estate in White Night.
 
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Alratan said:
It's the true meaning of the exception that proves the rule because only abyssals get the effect because only abyssals are that exceptionally killy, while the exalted that aren't just get conventional spirit killers.
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You haven't proven anything. One black swan in a room means black swans exist, it says nothing about distribution or just how killy is killy enough if that's even a requirement.

Your argument is literally "trust me bro".
 
uju32 said:
If Winter Fae came pouring in to murder the Walker and drive it back out of this reality, they wouldnt need permission.
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Considering Winter doesn't seem to do much about the Red Court who is known for summoning weird Outsider shit, I seriously doubt they'll come pouring in.
Something to look into once we fight the Red Court I suppose.
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A part of me is just imagining saying mabs name three times right now. Since that can summon her. Probably shouldn't do that mind you and they'd almost definitely use this summoning and then participating against an outsider to get out of the favor they owe us. Not the summoning itself and not without actually using the favor mind you but she'd at least try to use the situation to ask us if we're using our favor here for something that clearly benefits her and us. Fae do fae stuff and all.
 
[X] Ignore the guards, kill that thing now
-[x] [Stunt] Doing your best Obi-wan impression, you answer him with: "You did this to yourself." You then use one of the guards as a springboard to somersault right in the middle of them all, your aura promising death to all that approach, the eyes in it vigilant to any and all attacks they could try to send your way.
 
BoredMan said:
Considering Winter doesn't seem to do much about the Red Court who is known for summoning weird Outsider shit, I seriously doubt they'll come pouring in.
Something to look into once we fight the Red Court I suppose.
[X] Uju32
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A lot of that might have been because of a inflected winter lady deliberately putting jams in the works and crippling operations.
Goldfish said:
Seems like we should get a circumstance bonus to intimidation attempts against anyone who was present to see us telekinetically decapitate a dude with trivial ease. Would that count as a stunt?
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Doesn't matter we aren't failing a intimidation roll against COD minions in any case. It's not a question of how scary we are, but their willingness to spend willpower to join battle. Which represents their willingness to jump into the jaws of death well terrified. How super toothy we make those jaws look doesn't change the equation. It's depends on their own valor.
 
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BoredMan said:
Considering Winter doesn't seem to do much about the Red Court who is known for summoning weird Outsider shit, I seriously doubt they'll come pouring in.
Something to look into once we fight the Red Court I suppose.
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Winter (and Summer) has been more than a little stretched in the last four or five years.

Its not really a coincidence that before the Red Court kicked off the Vampire War and started summoning Outsiders for combat use, that the third most powerful woman in Winter after Mother Winter and Mab herself received a gift from the Red Court that infected her with Nemesis.

Or that this nfection went on to infect Mab's daughter and presumptive heir.

Nor is it a coincidence that just after the war started, it turns out that the Summer Court's Summer Lady was also infected by Nemesis and was engaged in a plot that would destroy the world.
Which resulted in her death, her mother's descent into mourning, and the current Summer Lady being young and inexperienced.

firefrog600 said:
[X] Uju32

A part of me is just imagining saying mabs name three times right now. Since that can summon her. Probably shouldn't do that mind you and they'd almost definitely use this summoning and then participating against an outsider to get out of the favor they owe us. Not the summoning itself and not without actually using the favor mind you but she'd at least try to use the situation to ask us if we're using our favor here for something that clearly benefits her and us. Fae do fae stuff and all.
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I honestly considered it.

But we should be able to handle this just fine. A Walker is outrageously powerful, but a Walker possessing and empowering a White Court vampire's body, even high nobility, is going to have to work within some of the limits of his victim's body and skillset. Which shouldnt require shintai on Molly's part at E3.


Its just that if we pull this off, we will have accumulated an alarming CV by any measure in the supernatural world.
In the last five or six months we have been responsible for the deaths of
  • Eldest Fetch
  • Kattrin Sigfridsdottir, renegade Valkyrie and Norse demigoddess
  • R the Ragged, Fomor sorcerer
  • The Will of Kakuri, greater akuma of Emma-O
  • Madrigal Raith, White Court prince

And thats just the named characters that we actually killed.
If we add Duke Skavis to that list, we begin to approach some of the same levels of infamy that Dresden has unwittingly cultivated in the last six years.
 
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uju32 said:
Winter (and Summer) has been more than a little stretched in the last four or five years.

Its not really a coincidence that before the Red Court kicked off the Vampire War and started summoning Outsiders for combat use, that the third most powerful woman in Winter after Mother Winter and Mab herself received a gift from the Red Court that infected her with Nemesis.

Or that this nfection went on to infect Mab's daughter and presumptive heir.

Nor is it a coincidence that just after the war started, it turns out that the Summer Court's Summer Lady was also infected by Nemesis and was engaged in a plot that would destroy the world.
Which resulted in her death, her mother's descent into mourning, and the current Summer Lady being young and inexperienced.


I honestly considered it.

But we should be able to handle this just fine. A Walker is outrageously powerful, but a Walker possessing and empowering a White Court vampire's body, even high nobility, is going to have to work within some of the limits of his victim's body and skillset. Which shouldnt require shintai on Molly's part at E3.


Its just that if we pull this off, we will have accumulated an alarming CV by any measure in the supernatural world.
In the last five or six months we have been responsible for the deaths of
  • Eldest Fetch
  • Kattrin Sigfridsdottir, renegade Valkyrie and Norse demigoddess
  • R the Ragged, Fomor sorcerer
  • The Will of Kakuri, greater akuma of Emma-O
  • Madrigal Raith, White Court prince

And thats just the named characters that we actually killed.
If we add Duke Skavis to that list, we begin to approach some of the same levels of infamy that Dresden has unwittingly cultivated in the last six years.
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Don't know if any of those really compare all that well infamywise to killing the summer lady.

Of course the big difference is that I expect that Molly could at this point take the Summer Lady in a straight fight rather than needing that amazing chain of circumstances Dresden did.

But from a Infamy stand point that doesn't matter. All they see is the kill list.
 
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fictionfan said:
Don't know if any of those really compare all that well infamywise to killing the summer lady.

Of course the big difference is that I expect that Molly could at this point take the Summer Lady in a straight fight rather than needing that amazing chain of circumstances Dresden did.

But from a Infamy stand point that doesn't matter. All they see is the kill list.
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Wait till she duels and kills her first Walker.

Outsiders in Creation generally dont die. They're damaged, maybe banished as a rule. He Who Walks Behind Was blown up and banished by Dresden, but was resummoned a decade and half later.
If she actually permakills this one and Murder is Meat's it in front of a hall of White Court Elders with Auspex? Yeah.
 
fictionfan said:
I mean if you really want a Obi-Wan quote their is an obvious one.

Fly up into the air and say "It's over [], I have the high ground"

In fact if they don't have long range weapons that really would make it over as we can throw them around at our leisure.
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We are in an enclosed room and these are all vampires.
I expect they can all jump to hit us with no issue.
 
Artemis1992 said:
We are in an enclosed room and these are all vampires.
I expect they can all jump to hit us with no issue.
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We have TK. I scoffed the idea before, but using one vampire to hit other vampires makes perfect sense when we are flying and they are trying to jump to hit us. Allows us to attack and defend at the same time.
uju32 said:
Wait till she duels and kills her first Walker.

Outsiders in Creation generally dont die. They're damaged, maybe banished as a rule. He Who Walks Behind Was blown up and banished by Dresden, but was resummoned a decade and half later.
If she actually permakills this one and Murder is Meat's it in front of a hall of White Court Elders with Auspex? Yeah.
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You're right that should be enough to get us to the top of the infamy leader boards. Don't know if even Nicodemus has as impressive a CV despite more than 2000 years of experience.
 
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Azais said:
@DragonParadox after we gave perfect control to Thomas, did he make the smart decision and start storing a good amount of energy or did he still continue to only consume enough to survive? And the wampires we have at the station, they're already getting better from the horrible state they were when we found them, but did they at least get some reserve if for whatever reason the MiS stops?
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He looks somewhat healthier since he came under the effects of the charm so Molly suspects the former The vampires are the station are getting better at an accelerated rate as a consequence of organized shallow feeding. Lastly Molly has no idea what Isabela is feeding on other than she promises she has not killed anyone for it.
 
fictionfan said:
We have TK. I scoffed the idea before, but using one vampire to hit other vampires makes perfect sense when we are flying and they are trying to jump to hit us. Allows us to attack and defend at the same time.

You're right that should be enough to get us to the top of the infamy leader boards. Don't know if even Nicodemus has as impressive a CV despite more than 2000 years of experience.
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did cause the black plague.
 
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