Harry Dresden. He ends up finding children being hunted by monsters with regularity.
Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)
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She might have an administrative charm that allows her to take things from her kingdom at a small cost of essence and selected the gift when she saw ours.
Or she's MAB and hasn't had us not being watched by some agent or another since the moment we left her sight.
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We would have noticed with our new perception charm
Maybe. Mab has access to lots of ways to gather information. I wouldn't be shocked if she knew heading into this meeting that we would come bearing a gift and knew exactly what gift we would bring. Even if she wasn't spying on us directly she could have been keeping tabs on us through indirect means.
I am frankly in the don't make deals with Mab camp. Therefore I fully support just handing her the information. If we make a deal Mab is going to basically feel compelled to "win" by her nature.
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Technically you would not have noticed a non-Creature of Darkness with Helscry, though what the odds of Mab having such a servant Molly does not know.
I can't imagine Mab DOESN'T have a wide variety of servants to call on that extend well beyond just Winter Fae. She has SOME number of servants who don't qualify as creatures of darkness. Some of her servants are likely full on human. She wouldn't be above hiring an unwitting mortal PI to avoid some of the Carpenter divine protection.
Completely mortal. No ill intent. Even Mab wouldn't have hired them with ill intent. The divine protection likely wouldn't trigger at all.
It's a question of if she actually had one keep tabs on us or not if she could have.
[X] Plan Icy plunge
-[X] Share information
--[X] Do Not mention Nemesis by name
--[X] Give the names of all the infected
--[X] Tell her of the Sapphire Ritual of Exorcism as an absolute way to non-lethally remove Nemesis from its victims
-[X] STUNT: As you sit down across the table from Mab, the chill of Winter caresses your skin, not yours, but no less invigorating. It is a bit like jumping into icy water. It is nothing compared to what you are about to do and say. For a moment you are still, your breath held, the weight of infinite Fate an almost tangible binding, and then you look directly into her eyes, and with your words sever those binding threads: " Your Majesty, before we talk of anything else, before any trades can be discussed, I have a duty to fulfill, as a denizen of this Creation. Those under your domain have been taken by the ones I would name my enemies, and whom I know you also call such. It is within my power to shatter their chains without damaging the victim unduly. Know, that I will be doing so to them all, your Lady first and foremost. It is my hope, if not a request, that we cooperate in this, if nothing else "
F*ck it. Generosity, Mercy, Charity are for those who are strong. Mab can spin and spin politics and planning, plan for infinite betrayals and taint her recuperal gifts in any way she wants. Nemesis is an enemy of Creation, and as an Exalt, as a heir of Primordials, it is given to us to destroy it. Our mandate was old long before Mab existed.
Mab understands duty. Might have been driven insane by it, but holds it true. And so, if we are to earn not her friendship, but her respect, the only way here is forward, and to separate Nemesis from negotiating with her. One is unconditional - we will be opposing it, even if we have to oppose Mab to do it. The other is a matter for negotiation.
EDIT: Betcha none of you saw this coming.
-[X] Share information
--[X] Do Not mention Nemesis by name
--[X] Give the names of all the infected
--[X] Tell her of the Sapphire Ritual of Exorcism as an absolute way to non-lethally remove Nemesis from its victims
-[X] STUNT: As you sit down across the table from Mab, the chill of Winter caresses your skin, not yours, but no less invigorating. It is a bit like jumping into icy water. It is nothing compared to what you are about to do and say. For a moment you are still, your breath held, the weight of infinite Fate an almost tangible binding, and then you look directly into her eyes, and with your words sever those binding threads: " Your Majesty, before we talk of anything else, before any trades can be discussed, I have a duty to fulfill, as a denizen of this Creation. Those under your domain have been taken by the ones I would name my enemies, and whom I know you also call such. It is within my power to shatter their chains without damaging the victim unduly. Know, that I will be doing so to them all, your Lady first and foremost. It is my hope, if not a request, that we cooperate in this, if nothing else "
F*ck it. Generosity, Mercy, Charity are for those who are strong. Mab can spin and spin politics and planning, plan for infinite betrayals and taint her recuperal gifts in any way she wants. Nemesis is an enemy of Creation, and as an Exalt, as a heir of Primordials, it is given to us to destroy it. Our mandate was old long before Mab existed.
Mab understands duty. Might have been driven insane by it, but holds it true. And so, if we are to earn not her friendship, but her respect, the only way here is forward, and to separate Nemesis from negotiating with her. One is unconditional - we will be opposing it, even if we have to oppose Mab to do it. The other is a matter for negotiation.
EDIT: Betcha none of you saw this coming.
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Its too risky, even the smallet ill-intent will activate the protection or one of the mortal doing something stupid will make Molly suspicious and even then if Mab sent a creature of darkness by mistake we would have noticed. Due to that and the surprise Mab have at the beginning of the meeting meaning that she isnt spying on us constantly, that she used a charm to find the most suitable gift for us from her reserves.
Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
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- ALSO SCREAMING.
It was extremely sweet of her. Whatever social role she was taking was very successful. Unless this meeting goes absolutely to hell she needs to be on our literal Christmas List.
[X] Plan Icy plunge
Reject factionalism. Embrace opposition to Outsiders.
Reject factionalism. Embrace opposition to Outsiders.
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Please sir, may I have some Meows?
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[X] Plan Icy plunge
Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
- Location
- ALSO SCREAMING.
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Do you think there is any chance that Winter lets us out of their sight, assuming they believe out words? I imagine we're leaving this meeting with her in one way or another and not coming back for quite some time. Dad or Harry be damned.
I'm not saying we don't do this but... yeah... I think we'll be vanishing off of the face of the earth for a fair few turns.
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I don't think Winter has stopped keeping tabs on us the moment we absconded with the crown. Mab knows the power level sitting on our head. All we are doing is putting ourself firmly in the asset column rather than the problem column.
[X] Plan Icy plunge
Modus_Tollens
SCREAMING AT THE APOCALYPSE
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- ALSO SCREAMING.
I think its going to get upgraded from 'she is keeping tabs on us' to 'she is appointing a fucking roommate for us'. And she would probably immediately make a play for keeping us in her court full time and fuck everything else, though I imagine we can social role out of that.
That has a non-zero chance of Michael getting an official retrieval mission. And Mab knows that. And, well, she can't brainwash because IPM (even mote-tapping us doesn't work, as this would run into "against intimacies" part). She can't hold us long-term, because this costs her Harry, possibly causes Michael, if not Uriel, to pay her a visit, and we get WHWH and CCC running at all times. We don't need food or water while in Winter's NeverNever because TLF, and we are damn hard to hold. At most, a month or so later we develop our world body, and escape there.
The pragmatic response would be to give us a circlemate, or a liaison.
I don't like Mab. At all. In some ways I dislike her, in some ways I pity her, in some ways I believe she's outdated and at least starting to become counter-productive for her purpose. I also don't think she's stupid. And if she does try to hold us, we'll bust out.
Mab send us a new roommate. We have a new minion by weeks end.
And a non-zero possiblity is that we get Sarissa or Maeve as a circlemate. Maeve would be the token evil teammate, probably. Are life debts a thing among the fae? Because Maeve would owe us.
We already picked up a token evil teammate in the Whampire. We threw her onto the pile of ghouls. At this rate our little death god is going to be the token "not redeemed evil person" of the party.
By the way, I support this fully. By the end of the story it would be hilarious to have a young adult representative of every faction all working together to keep outside outside.
What, you saying you want to give that information to Winter? Not that much surprising, not with a non submissive way of putting it at least, you are writing it as a way to become equal to her in some ways it seems, and that isn't that surprising coming from you.
Now, if you had decided to go into genuflection and praising her greatness, that would have surprised me.
If she tries, she's going to regret it, capturing us makes us stronger after all, and our crown is not that easy to stop, corner us, and we'll retaliate where it hurts the most.
[X] Plan Icy plunge
Which is kind of funny because Lydia isn't what I would call good. I mean yeah she has sympathy for the dead and she values her friends, but push comes to shove she still got her morals from one of the Old Gods, directly and by reading material plus the kind of tutors he hired. If someone gets into a legitimate deadly feud with her Lydia would treat it like it's 60 AD and she is queen of the Iceni.
Olivia might also be a non-evil teammate. Of course, her ancestry is that of a raksha, however far removed, and they are not good guys, even if her specific ancestor is.
We also need some male representation, I think. I mean, Molly, Lydia, Olivia, Sarissa / Maeve...
Indeed. I tried to divorce this topic as much as possible from any favor trading and equal exchanges as possible. Fae are obligated to provide something of equal value, but I think there has to be some clause that excludes outsiders from this. Otherwise Nemesis would have totally gamed that. I also tried to make it, while not challenging exactly, and certainly not offensive, declarative. This is what Molly intends to do. Molly is a power realizing herself. Mab can help, on her own will, oppose, or step aside. It is up to Mab.
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I bet that Mab has a cursed/mad Minion that is currently useless to her that she could assign to us. It would be so in character for Mab to try and make use of an otherwise useless asset.