Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Was not Thomas bascily running on near empty as the norm. With perfect control he can fill up as much as he can store really.
I don't even know if White Vampires even have a max tank or if they do it must be somewhat flexible or there is no way the white king could have kept up the pretend for about 30 years.
 
Better not break it's wing there, or that'll be a hell of an omen.

I would assume that there's further threats on their way, not much point in exposing yourself without backup.
 
Rembmer, MiS gives perfect Hunger control. Thomas under our service is likely far more dangerous than he is outside of our service. I mean, depending on how "perfect hunger control" translates, it might well be "you don't learn new disciplines, but you roll the disciplines you have as if they were at 5 dots".
Nah.
Perfect control of Hunger doesnt mean you suddenly have higher Disciplines than you paid XP for.
It means no Frenzy, no loss of control feeding, and a very good idea what your limits are instead of extra fuzziness.

This was actually one of my reasons to go to Dresden - Lara was evidently under surveliance (the spy), and her security was lacking. It's likely that the naagloshii's preparation was against her, and it was effective. We can't assume that her security is not compromised.
I'd still have gone to Lydia's place.

This is a persistent world, and events presumably go ahead even if we decline; note that we had the option to meet Lara Raith of our own accord months ago, but declined. The murder of Madeline Raith suggests things are coming to a head this Halloween, and if whatever the naagloshii is involved in had succeeded, it will become our problem.

Better to roll through now.
Besides, if the naagloshii has people watching Lara's place, how do we know it doesnt have people watching Dresden's place?
He's the local Warden commander, and someone it already tried to setup for murder. It will keep an eye out.

I mean, its much easier to watch a single dude living in a basement on an urban street than the approaches to an entire estate with presumably more than a hundred people living and working onsite.

One thing it might do is leave you with a body to explain if it works a bit too well

As for the VEE charm I think @Yog's idea of making it so you have to trick reality into thinking a year has past is the most thematic, XP-intensve yes, but it's not like XP generation is slow in the quest.
Not really.
No more than Dresden and Mouse breaking Cassius' neck at the Museum in Dead Beat and leaving the body, or the Denarian cultist that Michael stabbed to death through a door in Death Masks at the airport.

The only thing in the car that qualifies as a recognizable weapon is Molly's shield, and as far as I know Lydia's beam doesnt leave distinctive markings anyway, or markings of any kind; its weaponized death, more or less. A bird tumbling out of the sky and turning into a mortal corpse would be a whodunnit. We just whistle and drive past.

The real question is moral/ethical about the ethics of shooting back at someone who may or may not be in his right mind.
Assuming its a mortal shapeshifter like I think, and not just a familiar or modified animal.

And that ethical question is probably satisfied by the enemy's use of AoE tech bane against multiple motor vehicles moving at highway speeds, which makes them a clear and ongoing threat to not just us and our allies but all the other civilians on the road in modern motor vehicles. Especially if they try again.

Besides, that assumes Lydia cant just pull her punch and deal Bashing instead, like Molly does with her Agg sword's hilt or blade flat. Thats essentially stunt territory, after all.
Hence the "Drive it off" instead of "Kill it."
 
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Besides, if the naagloshii has people watching Lara's place, how do we know it doesnt have people watching Dresden's place?
He's the local Warden commander, and someone it already tried to setup for murder. It will keep an eye out.
Due to our low perception rolls before(some of which we couldn't even see we failed so bad) I'd bet the Nag has been spying on us aswell.
[X] uju32
 
Not really.
No more than Dresden and Mouse breaking Cassius' neck at the Museum in Dead Beat and leaving the body, or the Denarian cultist that Michael stabbed to death through a door in Death Masks at the airport.

The only thing in the car that qualifies as a recognizable weapon is Molly's shield, and as far as I know Lydia's beam doesnt leave distinctive markings anyway, or markings of any kind; its weaponized death, more or less. A bird tumbling out of the sky and turning into a mortal corpse would be a whodunnit. We just whistle and drive past.

The real question is moral/ethical about the ethics of shooting back at someone who may or may not be in his right mind.
Assuming its a mortal shapeshifter like I think, and not just a familiar or modified animal.

Lydia is an exalt of death invoking her heritage, the best she can do in terms of 'pulling her punch' is not choosing to spend the essence for the Agg damage, but there is no stun setting on the power of death itself summoned forth to the hunt.
 
Due to our low perception rolls before(some of which we couldn't even see we failed so bad) I'd bet the Nag has been spying on us aswell.
[X] uju32
I wouldn't be surprised.
We get some extra protection from living under Michael's roof, which makes surveillance operations the sort of thing that a fallen divine messenger would avoid for fear of drawing divine attention.

But its likely we've been scoped out at Dresden's place and at school without knowing.
Lydia is an exalt of death invoking her heritage, the best she can do in terms of 'pulling her punch' is not choosing to spend the essence for the Agg damage, but there is no stun setting on the power of death itself summoned forth to the hunt.
Fair enough.

Assuming the target doesnt dodge, 7 dice at DC5 resolves to 3 threshold sux, which should average 4 levels of damage(5L base damage + 3 successes, all rolled at DC6). Assuming he/it has Stamina 3 (our prisoner had Perception + Alertness 6) and mortal human physiology(can't soak lethal damage,7 levels of health) he should still have 3L left.

Assuming average rolls.

If he has altered physiology because skinwalker or shapeshifter, he gets to roll soak and the damage reduces.
If he dodges, threshold sux drop.
If he has a talisman or some other similar magical item for armor, damage reduces.
If the dice hate him, he dies.

Seems reasonable.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by uju32 on May 23, 2023 at 5:23 PM, finished with 39 posts and 5 votes.

  • [X] Try to down the bird-thing, witnesses or no
    -[X] Hunter's Bolt from Lydia
    -[X] STUNT: A thousand considerations go through your head at the sight of the bird, comparing the feel of the magical curse you'd just felt with what you'd sensed previously, and coming to some unpleasant conclusions "Drive it off, Lydia." The corona of white fire around Lydia's hand condenses in response, and then a beam of white light darts out the window.
    [X] Drive on, it's trying to slow you down and you are almost at the estate boundary
 
[X] Try to down the bird-thing, witnesses or no
-[X] Hunter's Bolt from Lydia
-[X] STUNT: A thousand considerations go through your head at the sight of the bird, comparing the feel of the magical curse you'd just felt with what you'd sensed previously, and coming to some unpleasant conclusions "Drive it off, Lydia." The corona of white fire around Lydia's hand condenses in response, and then a beam of white light darts out the window.


At worst it dies. I don't consider that a big issue. It's not like they can indict Lydia or run ballistic comparison on her magic blasts.
 
If he has altered physiology because skinwalker or shapeshifter, he gets to roll soak and the damage reduces.
If he dodges, threshold sux drop.
If he has a talisman or some other similar magical item for armor, damage reduces.
If the dice hate him, he dies.

At worst it dies. I don't consider that a big issue. It's not like they can indict Lydia or run ballistic comparison on her magic blasts.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I see two potential problems with this action.

Firstly, if Lydia manages to kill it, as a mortal practitioner, wouldn't that trigger a Death Curse?
And secondly, and this is more shaky but I don't remember it being brought up before so I thought I'd check, does Lydia count as a mortal practitioner herself? And as such is bound by the Laws?

I'd hate to take the shot, then have either of those potential bombs go off in Lydia's face.
 
Firstly, if Lydia manages to kill it, as a mortal practitioner, wouldn't that trigger a Death Curse?
Only if there is a time when it realize it is dying and has time to curse. Even then halfway odds it curses broken seeker for getting it into this situation.

And secondly, and this is more shaky but I don't remember it being brought up before so I thought I'd check, does Lydia count as a mortal practitioner herself? And as such is bound by the Laws?
Totally different magic system. Only the political laws might matter.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I see two potential problems with this action.

Firstly, if Lydia manages to kill it, as a mortal practitioner, wouldn't that trigger a Death Curse?
And secondly, and this is more shaky but I don't remember it being brought up before so I thought I'd check, does Lydia count as a mortal practitioner herself? And as such is bound by the Laws?

I'd hate to take the shot, then have either of those potential bombs go off in Lydia's face.
1) You need to be a White Council-tier wizard to be able to cast a death curse.
Ex-Denarian Quintus Cassius could do it, but sorcerers like Victor Sells and Kravos couldn't do it, and neither did any of Lord Raith's three witches in Blood Rites. And this dude doesnt appear to be in the same weight class as a Council wizard.

2) Lydia doesnt count as a mortal practitioner. And Charms are not mortal magic.
If Molly's demonblade doesnt break any laws, if using Ancient Sorcery like Flight of the Brilliant Raptor doesnt?
Lydia's ranged Charms won't.
 
https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/8ntzo3/my_name_is_jim_butcher_and_i_write_stories_ask_me/dzyl9ey/?context=3
1: How fast could Lash teach magic? The bit about being able to teach Harry how to heal his hand in Dead Beat implied that it was several dozen times faster than normal (because there's no way he'd be able to pick up healing before his hand healed normally on his own).

1) Teach it? VERY quickly. She could alter your perception of time and give you months of pure mental lessons in an evening. If she just did it for you while you sit in the passenger seat? She can do that instantly.
Significant with regards to fluff for Lydia, who has access to her father in her head for training.
 
Gonna need some more votes, y'all.
Adhoc vote count started by Goldfish on May 24, 2023 at 8:49 AM, finished with 49 posts and 7 votes.

  • [X] Try to down the bird-thing, witnesses or no
    -[X] Hunter's Bolt from Lydia
    -[X] STUNT: A thousand considerations go through your head at the sight of the bird, comparing the feel of the magical curse you'd just felt with what you'd sensed previously, and coming to some unpleasant conclusions "Drive it off, Lydia." The corona of white fire around Lydia's hand condenses in response, and then a beam of white light darts out the window.
    [X] Drive on, it's trying to slow you down and you are almost at the estate boundary
 
[X] Try to down the bird-thing, witnesses or no
-[X] Hunter's Bolt from Lydia
-[X] STUNT: A thousand considerations go through your head at the sight of the bird, comparing the feel of the magical curse you'd just felt with what you'd sensed previously, and coming to some unpleasant conclusions "Drive it off, Lydia." The corona of white fire around Lydia's hand condenses in response, and then a beam of white light darts out the window.
 
Might need to buy up the mentor level to get that sort of effect.
Cant see why.
Mentor 1 (Arawn)
(To note, this does not mean he is a bad or weak mentor, but he seemed very much the type to let Lydia figure out her answers by herself. She could propably increase this backround, representing convincing her dad to help her more)

Merits/Flaws:
Prestigious Mentor (1 pt. Merit) Your Mentor (as in the Background Trait of that name) has a reputation that benefits you as well. When you're making social rolls to invoke your influential teacher, reduce the difficulty by -2. Of course, some folks will be somewhat less than impressed; for rolls that involve rivals or enemies of your mentor, add +2 to the difficulty unless that mentor scares the shit out of them… in which case, you had damned well better be able to live up to the fear his name invokes!
This seems to provide enough fluff justification for him to be a tutor to allow Lydia buy skills.
Just like Odin allegedly trained Merlin in the Dresdenverse. If Lash can do a training montage in Harry's head with his permission, I assume Arawn can do it in his daughter's head with her permission.
 
Cant see why.
This seems to provide enough fluff justification for him to be a tutor to allow Lydia buy skills.
Just like Odin allegedly trained Merlin in the Dresdenverse. If Lash can do a training montage in Harry's head with his permission, I assume Arawn can do it in his daughter's head with her permission.
That is leftover fluff from when I wrote the first version of Lydia's charsheet.
Back when Arawn was alive/awake.

I'd take it with a grain of salt and ask DP what goes or doesn't go for the current version of Arawn.
 
That is leftover fluff from when I wrote the first version of Lydia's charsheet.
Back when Arawn was alive/awake.

I'd take it with a grain of salt and ask DP what goes or doesn't go for the current version of Arawn.

Arwan is skilled enough and able to communicate well enough to teach his daughter skills. If the roll for the ritual had been lower she would have had to get creative. That said it is not like he had maxed skills in everything. If she wants to learn say computers dear old dad cannot help.
 
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