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Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

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[X] Craft a gift for Mab, nothing arcane or which demands great recompense of hers, but a hint that your powers are subtle as well as overt and that you are as valuable as an ally as you would be troublesome as a foe
-[X] A car with not a singe atom of iron in it
[X] Keep the current patch: Green Sun Nimbus Flare is soakable by things that can soak Aggravated Damage. At Essence 4 that is no longer the case
 
uju32 said:
My dude, read your citation again.
What do you think the anima is supposed to be? Let me quote the White Wolf wiki:
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In this quest anima is the parts of the soul too large for the body. Not everyone has it. This has been addressed in the text before.
uju32 said:
We always have Demonic Primacy of Essence active.
Nfested Justine will ping as CoD in our presence because of Nemesis Nfection. Humans do not proc as CoDs. A human proc-ing as CoD will ALWAYS be reason to activate Hellscry Chakra. And All Things Betray for that matter.
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This is supposition, because we don't know that Justine is CoD, only that Nemesis, a possessing entity is CoD. The transitive property of CoD state from possessor to possessed hasn't been established.
uju32 said:
Empathy is both sensing and action.
Expression is action only. Doesn't even let you determine how well your sally was received by the target

I reiterate my belief that Earth Destroyer is simply wrong in claiming that Expression was some sort of god ability among social abilities.
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It might not be a god ability, but it is definitely intended to be the ability to express yourself, with other abilities being a poor substitute.
 
Also @DragonParadox keep in mind that GSNF triggers from Qiao of the Mo Kung, more specifically Tiger's Strength, which raises Str to 8.

That means once we learn Tiger's Strength and assuming we get 8 Str, GSNF will be doing 8 damage.
 
[X] Keep the current patch: Green Sun Nimbus Flare is soakable by things that can soak Aggravated Damage. At Essence 4 that is no longer the case
[X] Meet with one of Mab's daughters and try to gain their support
-[X] Meave the Winter Lady, your Malk neighbors should know where to find her and she would be the least suspicious to engage with
 
[X] Keep the current patch: Green Sun Nimbus Flare is soakable by things that can soak Aggravated Damage. At Essence 4 that is no longer the case
[X] Meet with one of Mab's daughters and try to gain their support
-[X] Meave the Winter Lady, your Malk neighbors should know where to find her and she would be the least suspicious to engage with
 
Unless I'm recalling incorrectly, things like GSNF or excellencies only care about the dots listed on your character sheet, which effects like Qiao of the Mo Kung or a lunar's rage form don't count as effecting.
 
Gonna be honest, making Mab a car just resonates with me. No one else would have had such a thing on her side. Making it Wintet themed too? A blue black theme?
 
Bread&Circuses said:
Unless I'm recalling incorrectly, things like GSNF or excellencies only care about the dots listed on your character sheet, which effects like Qiao of the Mo Kung or a lunar's rage form don't count as effecting.
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No, it only applies to Excellencies. Not charms that trigger off attributes. Holden has specifically stated that he called GSNF one of the "Nastiest" damage adders specifically because it uses attributes and triggers off things like Demon Emperor shintai which adds 5 Str. Meaning if you use GSNF in Demon Emperor Shintai or in a Quio, it does 8 to 10 unsoakable damage.
 
Yzarc said:
No, it only applies to Excellencies. Not charms that trigger off attributes. Holden has specifically stated that he called GSNF one of the "Nastiest" damage adders specifically because it uses attributes and triggers off things like Demon Emperor shintai which adds 5 Str. Meaning if you use GSNF in Demon Emperor Shintai or in a Quio, it does 8 to 10 unsoakable damage.
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Well that's pretty terrifying. Holy shit.
 
[X] Meet with one of Mab's daughters and try to gain their support
-[X] Meave the Winter Lady, your Malk neighbors should know where to find her and she would be the least suspicious to engage with
[X] Craft a gift for Mab, nothing arcane or which demands great recompense of hers, but a hint that your powers are subtle as well as overt and that you are as valuable as an ally as you would be troublesome as a foe
-[X] A diamond that shines like living ice

[X] Keep the current patch: Green Sun Nimbus Flare is soakable by things that can soak Aggravated Damage. At Essence 4 that is no longer the case

@DragonParadox do we have enough time to do both options? Half a day for diamond crafting, and the rest for Maeve.

As to the patch - the current idea is good. It makes the charm right now something we could use against tough but not super tough mortals, and against large things. Whales, dinosaurs, etc. Essentially damage sponges. And it's thematic to improve our powers later. We are working off emergency power, after all.
 
GSNF is a dead charm till E4 in the current patch. Any enemy we use it on will soak it and 5 dmg is soakable, thus wasting precious motes in a fight for no effect. Even worse is that we will not be hitting E4 anytime soon, given we have yet to hit E3.

It would be a waste of Essence against mooks as we do agg dmg which they do not soak anyway. So 5 dmg is cosmetic at best, wasteful overkill at worst.
 
[X] Spend some time with your family, you have prepared enough already
[X] Replace Green Sun Nimbus Flare with By Agony Empowered, making Molly less vulnerable to being overwhelmed by mundane damage

My Reasoning is that we have spent enough time away and taking some time off with the family will help. It also avoids us messing with Mab's daughters as while that is a valid play, it is an obvious one and She will know what we are doing. Messing it up will be....problematic.

Regarding GSNF, replacing it with By Agony Empowered solves a lot of problems with DragonParadox's encounters. It also makes Molly, more or less immune to "Guys with Shotguns" or "4 guys with Warhammers" problems from the Exalted side. By Agony Empowered is also a 5 Dot charm that is quite frankly, poorly ported but still useful to have, as we will not be taking it any other time.

So not only will we be solving the encounter issue, making fights challenging till we hit the big leagues, it also makes Molly, much MUCH tougher and gets us our first 5 Dot Charm. (Even if it is not worth 5 Dots).

We are also not using GSNF in the nerfed version and have used it a grand total of 2 times in all the game, 3 if you count the Akuma fight.

[] Charm adds damage dice not straight damage until Essence 4
 
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[X] Replace Green Sun Nimbus Flare with By Agony Empowered, making Molly less vulnerable to being overwhelmed by mundane damage

[X] Meet with one of Mab's daughters and try to gain their support
-[X] Meave the Winter Lady, your Malk neighbors should know where to find her and she would be the least suspicious to engage with

Let's see if we can get her exorcised before even talking to Mab. Or get her as a circlemate. We kinda need a token evil teammate, I guess.
 
[X] Spend some time with your family, you have prepared enough already
[X] Craft a gift for Mab, nothing arcane or which demands great recompense of hers, but a hint that your powers are subtle as well as overt and that you are as valuable as an ally as you would be troublesome as a foe
-[X] A car with not a singe atom of iron in it
[X] Replace Green Sun Nimbus Flare with By Agony Empowered, making Molly less vulnerable to being overwhelmed by mundane damage
[X] Charm adds damage dice not straight damage until Essence 4
 
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Aren't we going to be making vehicles for Odin soon anyway? Might as well get started. Plus I just can't see anyone else giving her a car that she can actually use! I'd love to see her reaction to that. Meave can wait, we can't address her and make a gift for Mab in the same turn according to DP.
[X] Craft a gift for Mab, nothing arcane or which demands great recompense of hers, but a hint that your powers are subtle as well as overt and that you are as valuable as an ally as you would be troublesome as a foe
-[X] A car with not a singe atom of iron in it
[X] Keep the current patch: Green Sun Nimbus Flare is soakable by things that can soak Aggravated Damage. At Essence 4 that is no longer the case
 
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[X] Keep the current patch: Green Sun Nimbus Flare is soakable by things that can soak Aggravated Damage. At Essence 4 that is no longer the case


Replacing it is weird since we've liked major opponents with it already. Buffing everyone has the potential to mess with everything else for the sake of one charm.

Nerfing it until we're already a step past being our own planet is fine.
 
[X] Craft a gift for Mab, nothing arcane or which demands great recompense of hers, but a hint that your powers are subtle as well as overt and that you are as valuable as an ally as you would be troublesome as a foe
-[X] A car with not a singe atom of iron in it

I have just seen this option, and now I must have it.. It's a very Molly gift too: a blending of the supernatural and technological world. Something that only Molly can create.
Plus Mab bursting through the veil in our tricked-out ride to arrive at some accord meeting would be super cool.
I wonder if we would build a very rugged, martial car that might serve as a combat "mount". Or if it would be better to go for a sleek sporty car that can also drive cross-country because of exalted bullshit.
 
[X] Craft a gift for Mab, nothing arcane or which demands great recompense of hers, but a hint that your powers are subtle as well as overt and that you are as valuable as an ally as you would be troublesome as a foe
-[X] A car with not a singe atom of iron in it
[X] Replace Green Sun Nimbus Flare with By Agony Empowered, making Molly less vulnerable to being overwhelmed by mundane damage
 
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[X] Keep the current patch: Green Sun Nimbus Flare is soakable by things that can soak Aggravated Damage. At Essence 4 that is no longer the case
[X] Spend some time with your family, you have prepared enough already
 
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