Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

I hope you're not suggesting we don't use MiM in a damn Akuma, because of someone else's thinking. Because if so I'm really going to revolt.

I'm already angry at the many other very useful charms that we didn't buy with the moan of "but what will other people think of us?", if that happens to a charm we already bought it would be a very bad sign.

(I'm sorry if that's not what you're suggesting, but I want to cut any thought that looks like that at the root)
I wasn't suggesting we not use it, I was saying we shouldn't mention it first because Micheal might ask us not to if he knows we can. Also so that we keep it a surprise for as long as possible.

I was basically shooting down the half baked thought I floated about saying something on it here.
 
[X] You would offer clemency to those who have the ability to accept it
-[x] Realistically I expect to kill at least half of them.

Actually I'm not really that interested in getting hungry dead minions. Maybe if we had gotten the Maggot charm. Currently most parasitic minions are fairly useless.

[X] You would see the murderers perish for their crimes
 
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[X] You would stop them from harming innocents in the future. Be it with your blade parting their heads from their bodies, or with your words setting them on the path of repentance and amends is up to their wisdom.

This is the important bit, we can't do much about what has already occured and promising to kill them out of hand is against Molly and her father's values as a good Christians.
 
[X] You would stop them from harming innocents in the future. Be it with your blade parting their heads from their bodies, or with your words setting them on the path of repentance and amends is up to their wisdom.
 
So, regarding the update:
1) We should probably recruit Língguāng. A certified pilot is useful to have, and we could probably craft her a next generation fighter craft. Very little beats air support. Maybe also go flying with her -without an aircraft.
2)All shen seem young, as far as their kind go. I am betting not a one of them is over a thousand years old.
3) They don't recognize us, or anything like us. And seem to dismiss our father for his sword. This si a mistake.

Overall impression? These are not high grade spirits. Those are misfits and cast-offs. Small times, and probably those who know that they are small timers.

I mean imagine how that sword looks like to people who can see what is in it? If your paradigm is 'partnership of spirit and mortal' and you see what is basically a full god in a sword being carried around by what is otherwise a pretty ordinary mortal is makes sense to think the being in the sword is in charge, no?
 
I mean imagine how that sword looks like to people who can see what is in it? If your paradigm is 'partnership of spirit and mortal' and you see what is basically a full god in a sword being carried around by what is otherwise a pretty ordinary mortal is makes sense to think the being in the sword is in charge, no?
On one hand, yes. On the other, it betrays a level of ignorance about how White God operates that's actually startling. It definitely means that they haven't interacted with a Knight in the past, or with any of the non-Fallen angels, really. Which is a good point to know. It also suggests, if weekly, that akuma's "Knights can't protect you" threat is made in ignorance, not out of something backed by evidence.

Finally, it's interesting that they can perceive sword angel, but aren't either gibbering in horror or prostrating themselves in supplication when looking at us.
 
On one hand, yes. On the other, it betrays a level of ignorance about how White God operates that's actually startling. It definitely means that they haven't interacted with a Knight in the past, or with any of the non-Fallen angels, really. Which is a good point to know. It also suggests, if weekly, that akuma's "Knights can't protect you" threat is made in ignorance, not out of something backed by evidence.

Finally, it's interesting that they can perceive sword angel, but aren't either gibbering in horror or prostrating themselves in supplication when looking at us.

There are levels of perception involved. It's not like they have turned on the Sight and are looking at the full truth of the thing

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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Mar 1, 2023 at 2:05 AM, finished with 34 posts and 13 votes.

  • [X] You would stop them from harming innocents in the future. Be it with your blade parting their heads from their bodies, or with your words setting them on the path of repentance and amends is up to their wisdom.
    [X] You would offer clemency to those who have the ability to accept it
    - [X] We all have our crosses to bare. You well know what that sword means. Is that enough for you, to have the killing end, or are you so flush with allies that you can afford to turn away the chance of three at the low low cost of answering our questions?
    [X] You would offer clemency to those who have the ability to accept it
    -[x] Realistically I expect to kill at least half of them.
    [X] You would see the murderers perish for their crimes
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Mar 1, 2023 at 2:05 AM, finished with 34 posts and 13 votes.

  • [X] You would stop them from harming innocents in the future. Be it with your blade parting their heads from their bodies, or with your words setting them on the path of repentance and amends is up to their wisdom.
    [X] You would offer clemency to those who have the ability to accept it
    - [X] We all have our crosses to bare. You well know what that sword means. Is that enough for you, to have the killing end, or are you so flush with allies that you can afford to turn away the chance of three at the low low cost of answering our questions?
    [X] You would offer clemency to those who have the ability to accept it
    -[x] Realistically I expect to kill at least half of them.
    [X] You would see the murderers perish for their crimes
 
Arc 6 Post 13: Webs of Woe
Webs of Woe

2nd of October 2006 A.D.

"I would keep them from harming innocents, be it by striking their heads from their bodies or by words to set them upon them path of repentance, what matters is to put an end to the fear and suffering to make these streets, this city safe once more for mortal man and immortal spirit again. In that I think we would find common cause and in that I ask for your aid," you speak with care, with pathos, though you tread carefully so that it does not seem you speak with pride.

Língguāng sets her cup down with a click as she looks you over carefully over the rim, her amber eyes seeming almost to recall the gaze of a hunting bird. "If you do not drive them out with fire they shall return, it is the nature of the akuma who twice clung to existence in the face of the cycle that would have seen their souls cast before the judgement of Heaven. Mercy is the province of might and you are not so mighty as to afford it in the face of the Will of Kakuri."

"We are not, but we act in the name of and by the grace of One who is infinitely mighty as he is merciful," your father... no, the Knight of the Cross and bearer of the Sword of Love says. "We can promise no more than that, we can do no less."

"Do you know why the Princes of the Slain despise us and would do us evil?" Lán Hè asks, looking from Lydia to you and back again. "It is because we are unbound by the dictates of the Celestial Bureaucracy and yet we are no damned as they are, we are not a blight of Yang, nor are we the killing breath of tainted Ying corpse still upon the world. Whatever other purpose the servants of the Yama Kings have in this place they would leave it a ruin and our dear ones lost and broken because it brings their lords comfort. These creatures kill and defile not because they profit thereby but because they are defilement."

"Bullshit," Bùshì Tùzǐ snorts, her hair puffing up like a cat's arched back. "Killing is the reason and the deed, but that does not mean they kill reflexively because they hate us from back in the old country or some shit. They did not kill J first because of some imbalance of chi, they did it because J was smart and he was one of the first to realize what was going on."

"He who lays in a grave shall drink the water of the dead," Língguāng proclaims with the sort of cold certainty that is practically guaranteed to... raise spirits if one might make a pun of the matter.

Just as the younger spirit is about to make like an angry leopard and go for the throat Leaping Jack cuts in for the first time. "Honored elder I think there may be some truth to what she says, yes the Akuma have fed upon those of unbalanced chi, but not simply as a plague may feast upon those with weaker immune systems, I have noticed a pattern in who is being hunted. Male then female, old then young, deep rooted shaman, then one with their eyes still closed. I think they are attempting to poison the chi of the Dragon Lines to make it their own, the better to prepare for fighting..." he motions in your direction, hand forming a kind of spiral starting from the tip of your head to the soles of your feet.

"The akuma, Lady Eiko of the Blood-Stained Chrysanthemum, offered me a meeting," you say, the implications dawning on you. Why offer you a meeting in such a hostile manner? Because they wanted you to show up, but not to talk, because it's a trap and all of Chinatown is the web.

"So then do you still think it is wise to offer her mercy?" Jack asks with a crooked smile that would not have looked out of place on the cover of GQ.

"This trap, if trap it be, it isn't done is it?" you ask, as much to yourself as the the others in the room. "I wonder if we could catch them up as they are building it?"

"The only lure they might take are our dear ones which none here will risk," Jack proclaims, firmly... a little too firmly. His eyes do not shift, his face does not twitch, but then he is not a creature of flesh. There is a shiver in the air , a flicker in the neon lights above as his attention falls like swirling steam onto Lán Hè, he expects the elder shen to make the offer now that the akuma's plot has been revealed. The manipulation leaves a bad taste in your mouth...

[] But you let it stand, allow the moment to pass and Lán Hè to make the offer of his shaman in order to draw Lady Eiko into the open

[] So you speak up, you do not need that kind of risk taken, now that you know the Akuma are messing with the local dragon lines you can call your own expert in the matter in the from of Porter

[] Write in


OOC: Spirit politics ahoy.
 
[X] So you speak up, you do not need that kind of risk taken, now that you know the Akuma are messing with the local dragon lines you can call your own expert in the matter in the from of Porter
 
[x] So you speak up, you do not need that kind of risk taken, now that you know the Akuma are messing with the local dragon lines you can call your own expert in the matter in the from of Porter

Let's do what we preach, fuck their politics and manipulations, we are not so little they can use our goodwill against us.

In fact, if someone offers a write in to call him out on it, I'll probably vote for them.
 
[X] So you speak up, you do not need that kind of risk taken, now that you know the Akuma are messing with the local dragon lines you can call your own expert in the matter in the from of Porter
 
So, they really have no idea of what we are. And either we are badly underestimating akuma, or they are underestimating us. Probably both.

And I am very very curious what these guys think we are. They don't seem to be CoDs, so they aren't feeling the brunt of our power screaming at them to kneel before the Empress Ascending, and we look like a mortal teenager.

Akuma reasoning is still strange. If you are plotting a trap, why alert the other party about hostile intent? Be as polite as possible.

Also, wait. Does this count as an official mission for Michael?
I wonder how weird it would look if we began every conversation by dumping a bottle of water on our head to activate BSM for that -1 difficulty...
Social faux pas increasing the difficulty would probably offset mechanical benefit of BSM.

[X] So you speak up, you do not need that kind of risk taken, now that you know the Akuma are messing with the local dragon lines you can call your own expert in the matter in the from of Porter
 
[X] But you let it stand, allow the moment to pass and Lán Hè to make the offer of his shaman in order to draw Lady Eiko into the open
 
[x] So you speak up, you do not need that kind of risk taken, now that you know the Akuma are messing with the local dragon lines you can call your own expert in the matter in the from of Porter
 
So, they really have no idea of what we are. And either we are badly underestimating akuma, or they are underestimating us. Probably both.

And I am very very curious what these guys think we are. They don't seem to be CoDs, so they aren't feeling the brunt of our power screaming at them to kneel before the Empress Ascending, and we look like a mortal teenager.

Akuma reasoning is still strange. If you are plotting a trap, why alert the other party about hostile intent? Be as polite as possible.

Also, wait. Does this count as an official mission for Michael?

Social faux pas increasing the difficulty would probably offset mechanical benefit of BSM.

[X] So you speak up, you do not need that kind of risk taken, now that you know the Akuma are messing with the local dragon lines you can call your own expert in the matter in the from of Porter
  1. It does not count as an official mission for Michael, he did not get is via divine inspiration, rather it is something he has chosen to involve himself in same as when he got in on some missions with Harry.
  2. The spirits do not seem to be CoD, though from what they have told you about themselves and their history they seem to be mostly rebels from their 'proper' place over in China
 
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