Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Solar/Solaroid Tier combatants
As far as those go, I'd say we have, uh... none? If we were combat-focused, our last 100 xp would be something like E3, Opened Eye and Spattering grease, and then we'd talk with those Malks with a full confidence that we could make them go squish with minimal effort.

...Well, we actually wouldn't be talking because DP would've thrown something more heavy-weight at us, but still. We don't have many of our core combat charms.
 
Not all Outsiders are created equal, though. Gatekeeper can't see Nemesis passing through the Outer Gates because it is already on the inside, and it is pretty special.
There is no textev to that effect that Nemesis gets some sort of exemption.

The Gatekeeper explicitly fucks with time and probabilities.
What he does and does not know is unknown, and there are apparently things that you have to be careful with to avoid risking paradox. Or maybe getting jumped by timecops, I dunno.

But that is explicit that you can learn to detect Outsider possession/influences.

It's far better to spend an action point to get her a five point familiar, I feel. Our money levels should easily allow us to travel to Japan / China (Japan is easier - no need for a visa) and there we could d
I dont think so.
Familiars are one of the Backgrounds you're supposed to buy if you want story protection for them, and not just their getting killed off IIRC. Else we'd just wait until she gets that animal boosting charm and just get some mundane animals.

I do not consider it plausible that we can expect to get a supernatural animal familiar for free by spending AP.
Let alone a 5 dot familiar, worth 15xp, and with its own native charms and Aspects.
At best it offers you the opportunity to buy that creature as a familiar.
I agree that getting her a familiar is a good idea. Getting her one via spending XP is not. Go find Mouse's litter mate (or some other temple dog - I am fairly sure one can be found willing to enter Lydia's service). Or a golden crow. Or some manner of Rat King.
Temple dogs are super rare, even in their homeland.
There's a reason the last warlock literally had to travel to Nepal/Tibet to steal a young litter, and the custodians sent a monk to the US to get them back. Rare enough that Ancient Mai literally gasped at seeing one with Dresden.

They arent just dogs, and you cant just expect to pick them up. Mouse's litter has undoubtedly found their vocations by now.
Just like Mouse has.

Mind, I am hoping she picks up a dog, or pair of dogs, later as well.
But not now. A bird of the raven/owl type, given their stat block in Bygone Bestiary, expands her capabilities and themes better than dogs right now, and is easier to move around with.
 
I dont think so.
Familiars are one of the Backgrounds you're supposed to buy if you want story protection for them, and not just their getting killed off IIRC. Else we'd just wait until she gets that animal boosting charm and just get some mundane animals.

I do not consider it plausible that we can expect to get a supernatural animal familiar for free by spending AP.
Let alone a 5 dot familiar, worth 15xp, and with its own native charms and Aspects.
At best it offers you the opportunity to buy that creature as a familiar.
By the same logic, circlemates should also be a background. Yet, we got Lydia over the course of the quest. Let's ask: @DragonParadox can we get Lydia a familiar via IC effort, such as, for example, using a crown to find an orphan golden crow egg?
Temple dogs are super rare, even in their homeland.
There's a reason the last warlock literally had to travel to Nepal/Tibet to steal a young litter, and the custodians sent a monk to the US to get them back. Rare enough that Ancient Mai literally gasped at seeing one with Dresden.

They arent just dogs, and you cant just expect to pick them up. Mouse's litter has undoubtedly found their vocations by now.
Just like Mouse has.

Mind, I am hoping she picks up a dog, or pair of dogs, later as well.
But not now. A bird of the raven/owl type, given their stat block in Bygone Bestiary, expands her capabilities and themes better than dogs right now, and is easier to move around with.
Lydia is also pretty damn unique, and we can use the Crown to look for Mouse's litter mates, or temple dogs available for adoption in general. And yes, it'll take AP and IC quest.
 
By the same logic, circlemates should also be a background. Yet, we got Lydia over the course of the quest. Let's ask: @DragonParadox can we get Lydia a familiar via IC effort, such as, for example, using a crown to find an orphan golden crow egg?
Circle mates are NPCs that come with their own plot baggage and entanglements.
That is explicitly not what the Familiar background is for.
Lydia is also pretty damn unique, and we can use the Crown to look for Mouse's litter mates, or temple dogs available for adoption in general. And yes, it'll take AP and IC quest.
Again, see above.
You asked about charms from what I recall, she does not have favored abilities, she has favored attributes like a Lunar
Ugh.
Lemme go see if there's anything that I can tweak.
 
Seems like the Touch of Frost buydown would be the easiest thing to axe for XP.
Yes, but it was specifically asked for by some of the people commenting when I was writing the plan.
Which is why its there, else I would have waited until after Mab.
And I dont like changing things I agreed to put in.

It might just be a better choice to just drop Lydia's Occult 2 and not replace it, whicn was my idea.
Save the 1XP for next turn.
 
Yes, but it was specifically asked for by some of the people commenting when I was writing the plan.
Which is why its there, else I would have waited until after Mab.
And I dont like changing things I agreed to put in.
If it helps, Touch of Frost is the major thing why I'm not voting for you.

I definitly want to stay creepy to nearby mortals.
 
If it helps, Touch of Frost is the major thing why I'm not voting for you.
I definitly want to stay creepy to nearby mortals.
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I think I have a responsibiliy to stay as close to the original plan as possible.
Cant help it.

@ImBuda
You're the only person who copied the entire plan and its details
If I drop Occult 2, you may have to revote as either []Plan Wintersteel Raven OR []uju32
Are you okay with that?
 
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I think I have a responsibiliy to stay as close to the original plan as possible.
Cant help it.

@ImBuda
You're the only person who copied the entire plan and its details
If I drop Occult 2, you may have to revote as either []Plan Wintersteel Raven OR []uju32
Are you okay with that?
Ok I will do it


Ed:
[X]Plan Wintersteel Raven
 
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Ok I will do it


Ed:
[X]Plan Wintersteel Raven
Thank you.


Updated vote: dropping Occult 2 from Lydia, so we have 1xp excess in the bank.

VOTE
[X] Agree to meet with the Librarian
-[X]Ask Michael along

[X] Lydia XP: All companions get 1/4 of the total XP spent on Molly, rounded down. Molly can spend XP on companions but not the other way round. The 1/4 does NOT reduce what Molly earns.

[X]Plan Wintersteel Raven
-[X]Molly: 16xp
--[X]Qiao 1: Steel Skin: 3xp
--[X]Empathy 4: 3xp
--[X]All Things Betray: 8xp
--[X]Touch of Frost: 2xp
-[X]Lydia:6xp
--[X]Ox-Body 1: 3xp
--[X]Background Familiar 1: Raven: 3xp
 
The rally is being weird. Any reason it would not be counting @uju32's new plan with everyone else who has voted for it?
 
The rally is being weird. Any reason it would not be counting @uju32's new plan with everyone else who has voted for it?
Someone had set divide votes to None, currently retallying.

Edit: here you go.
Adhoc vote count started by LightLan on Jan 3, 2023 at 4:24 PM, finished with 215 posts and 31 votes.
 
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Thank you.


Updated vote: dropping Occult 2 from Lydia, so we have 1xp excess in the bank.

VOTE
[X] Agree to meet with the Librarian
-[X]Ask Michael along


[X] Lydia XP: All companions get 1/4 of the total XP spent on Molly, rounded down. Molly can spend XP on companions but not the other way round. The 1/4 does NOT reduce what Molly earns.

[X]Plan Wintersteel Raven
-[X]Molly: 16xp
--[X]Qiao 1: Steel Skin: 3xp
--[X]Empathy 4: 3xp
--[X]All Things Betray: 8xp
--[X]Touch of Frost: 2xp
-[X]Lydia:6xp
--[X]Ox-Body 1: 3xp
--[X]Background Familiar 1: Raven: 3xp
Any chance you could be convinced to postpone boosting Empathy to 4 in order to pick up Rendered Villain Dispersal?
 
As far as those go, I'd say we have, uh... none? If we were combat-focused, our last 100 xp would be something like E3, Opened Eye and Spattering grease, and then we'd talk with those Malks with a full confidence that we could make them go squish with minimal effort.

...Well, we actually wouldn't be talking because DP would've thrown something more heavy-weight at us, but still. We don't have many of our core combat charms.
The reason I felt nervous was that we were low on essence going in. A problem that RVD would have taken care of.
 
We will probably want to decrease it (or, rather, make our frost aura manageable) by the time we go to school.
It would also make it easier for her to touch her family.
Pretty sure she has avoided touching Little Harry since Arctis Tor.
Any chance you could be convinced to postpone boosting Empathy to 4 in order to pick up Rendered Villain Dispersal?
Empathy 4 + All Things Betray are cornerstones of the plan's social focus.
Empathy 4 really is that important in my opinion.
Both for the coming Mab visit, and potentially both the renegade Whampires in Undertown, and Lara Raith.

RVD next turn. I promise.
 
Empathy 4 + All Things Betray are cornerstones of the plan's social focus.
Empathy 4 really is that important in my opinion.
Both for the coming Mab visit, and potentially both the renegade Whampires in Undertown, and Lara Raith.

RVD next turn. I promise.
Next turn is likely just before we get back to school, or close to it. We'll need to control our frost aura, and we'll want to buy alchemy 2 for "one hour of sleep" potion. Ideally also ability enhancers, but that's way too costly (remember, we buy recipes separately from the path dots). We probably want to buy Awareness 2 at least, that's one thing we are sorely lacking. And/or politics (in fact, that we aren't buying politics right now might be a mistake). Not sure we'll have space for RVD.

For Lydia we very much want to buy Command the Dead, especially if we finish making the Dragon's Nest there, since she'll be able to store her minions there. Wood golems open a lot of possibilities for her. In fact, I would say that buying Command the Dead might be a better choice for her that Ox body. We could make her a wooden armor she'd animate with it. That would most likely protect her better than Ox Body.
 
I am not sure why you quoted me?
Mostly arguing for RVD and what you said was another case where it would have been useful. RVD just generally allows us to increase our tempo of action. Molly can spend most travel time in a bleach jar. If we always arrive with a full essanse pool then we can go more all in on most actions.
 
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