Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

No matter how much we beat their social they have the option of spending a willpower to ignore it and join battle.
Which is part of why I wanted to have our anima banner up. To make it even more clear that they stand no chance fighting.

Edit: Actually Porter is awake. I don't think that they would attack with a dragon behind us even if there were a hundred of them.
Nobody here knows anything about what an anima banner means.

9 helpers should make fixing this DragonNest up much faster. But we do really need MMP to properly feed our minions, hauling tones of food around attracts to much attention.
Hell no.

Construction work is NOT unskilled labor. Especially not construction work with machinery. Construction sites can be dangerous even for trained personnel. We have no use for untrained ghouls on this worksite, and dont have the time or inclination to do vocational training. Especially given the non-zero chance there are going to be legally underage sapients there.

Perimeter security sure, especially when we are not here.
But construction? Nah.
I thought that was what we were doing? A cult is the most flexible and useful minions structure.
Molly was raised Catholic. Her father's a paladin. She's literally had messages from angels.
Nothing about spells interested in setting up a cult. A cult might well happen anyway even against her will, but she isnt going to have a hand in its setup.

Nah, Molly isn't going to start a cult.

...Intentionally.
^^^
 
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Hell no.

Construction work is NOT unskilled labor. Especially not construction work with machinery.
Construction sites can be dangerous even for trained personnel. We have no use for untrained ghouls on this worksite, and dont have the time or inclination to do vocational training. Especially given the non-zero chance there are going to be legally underage sapients there.

Perimeter security sure, especially when we are not here.
But construction? Nah.
They could help with the first parts. Cleaning away the ruble and the like. First part of any construction job is just getting rid of all the stuff you don't want which doesn't take much skill at all.
 
They could help with the first parts. Cleaning away the ruble and the like. First part of any construction job is just getting rid of all the stuff you don't want which doesn't take much skill at all.
Underground construction site in concrete and earth.
Heavy, sometimes unstable objects and rubble. Potential electric power conduits.People who dont have even basic construction experience.

This isnt like working on a farm with hand tools. Or helping build a wood frame house.

I will repeat: randoms do not belong on a worksite.
Its only a question of time before someone walks into something they shouldnt, or destabilizes concrete on their head, or gets cut by rusty metal without a tetanus vaccination.
 
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...So, not that the difference between 10 and 11 successes really matters, but the main reason we cooked down here was too activate TLoF for -3 difficulty, which should make the 5 a success. I mean, unless the baseline difficulty was 9 for some reason.
@DragonParadox You might want to include TLoF under Inherent Bonuses.
Underground construction site in concrete and earth.

Heavy, sometimes unstable objects and rubble. Potential electric power conduits.People who dont have even basic construction experience.

This isnt like working on a farm with hand tools. Or helping build a wood frame house.



I will repeat: randoms do not belong on a worksite.

Its only a question of time before someone walks into something they shouldnt, or destabilizes concrete on their head, or gets cut by rusty metal without a tetanus vaccination.

And that would all be valid if they were not already living down here. All of undertown is unstable and unsafe.
 
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We also don't need them to be useful. We need them to be faithfully trying. We can fabricate some cute little bronze hardhats and orange vests of demonic fabric that glows with the fires of hell. We can give them those little wavy glowstick things and have them direct people around where we are currently working.
 
And that would all be valid if there were not already living down here. All of undertown is unstable and unsafe.

Undertown is hardly luxurious, but its unsafe largely because of its inhabitants, not because its collapsing. What transient hazards exist are well understood by the natives. The parts that are unstable, or have some other environmental hazard, dont have people living there. Because they would have died.

A situation where you are doing construction work, otoh, is a whole new scenario. You have rubble, you have rusty metal, you have utility cables. These people have NO experience with it. If you have 9 different people hauling and moving stuff in that environment with no training, they are all a present danger to each other.

Our goal is to keep these people out of our way.
Would be nice if we can get them to do security when Molly isnt around, or to tell us about the layout of the surrounding area.
But we do not benefit from attempting to use them as workers here. Nevermind the ethical issues.

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Seriously, just google mole people

View: https://youtu.be/pnwB0BYL_DE

View: https://youtu.be/DwoUY67CMcg

Butcher didnt come up with the concept out of nowhere.
A lot of US major cities, from New York to Las Vegas, have a subterrranean population of homeless people living in disused tunnels underground while most of the city goes on above them.
 
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We have been getting a lot of mileage out of Crafts. Do we know anyone skilled enough that they could train us for the 4th dot? Mostly because I have a bit of an adverse idea to ever paying full XP cost for any skill.

Does Dad have at least 4 dots?
 
We have been getting a lot of mileage out of Crafts. Do we know anyone skilled enough that they could train us for the 4th dot? Mostly because I have a bit of an adverse idea to ever paying full XP cost for any skill.

Does Dad have at least 4 dots?
I think in that matter your math is wrong.

If we spend one AP to get a discount of 1 or 2 XP, that's a bad deal.
Because that AP could have been spend on an adventure that gives several times more experience.
 
Craft is a Key Ability. Which makes it cheap to upgrade.
Craft 4 is 3XP. Craft 5 is 4XP.
Its just not currently a pressing priority to max it out, instead of buying other stuff first.
 
I think in that matter your math is wrong.

If we spend one AP to get a discount of 1 or 2 XP, that's a bad deal.
Because that AP could have been spend on an adventure that gives several times more experience.
It depends on if you count time in world or out of world. An adventure takes quite a bit more updates. Also nothing stops us from having a crafting adventure when learning say.

Like

-[] The family trade, dad already works with wood, you can work with wood, getting paid by your parents isn't exactly the most glamorous thing, but it would probably go smoother with him handling all the marketing stuff so you can just use your hell tools to make stuff

It isn't the most efficient way for us to make money especially now. But if it also gets us crafting XP then it becomes fairly good.
 
Anyone want to try a stunt? We shouldn't need it with all our DC reductions, but stunts are cool.
 
Undertown is hardly luxurious, but its unsafe largely because of its inhabitants, not because its collapsing. What transient hazards exist are well understood by the natives. The parts that are unstable, or have some other environmental hazard, dont have people living there. Because they would have died.

A situation where you are doing construction work, otoh, is a whole new scenario. You have rubble, you have rusty metal, you have utility cables. These people have NO experience with it. If you have 9 different people hauling and moving stuff in that environment with no training, they are all a present danger to each other.

Our goal is to keep these people out of our way.
Would be nice if we can get them to do security when Molly isnt around, or to tell us about the layout of the surrounding area.
But we do not benefit from attempting to use them as workers here. Nevermind the ethical issues.
I disagree mostly because I regularly do construction work. Yes the site might be dangerous if we were making apartment complexes or the like, but most of the dangers of construction work disappear when you get down to small scale of 10 or less people without heavy machinery. Most the dangers are matters of coordination issues. If everyone is doing the same job instead of desperately trying to do everything in parallel to beat a deadline the issues just aren't there.

And yes we do have heavy machinery created by essance, but that isn't the same at all.
 
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Going over it properly.
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years? not sure
Even though you are not sure if they are being honest or just trying to help out of loyalty you feels a sudden surge of warmth towards the two spirits which had not so long ago been mere sparks of electronic spite in a sea of date.
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I assume data
Lydia raises up a wave of moving earth and you create your own transportation, something that looks like a cross between an old-timey mine cart and a giant mental beetle with six wheels in place of its legs. After cramming all all the food and water into it you race down the track to the Last Station.
double all
Soon enough the air if filled with the mingled smells of familiar food, nothing fancy of course, pot turkey chilly and spinach lasagna, dumplings bobbing a around the pot.
is not if
I assume you mean chili and not that molly wants to hand out cold turkey.
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then snaps back as they notice that they had been seen.
Have? Not sure if this even is an error.
 
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[X] Offer them a meal, you can make your offer while they are eating, the hunger at least a little dulled by the act
 
[X] Offer them a meal, you can make your offer while they are eating, the hunger at least a little dulled by the act

I think that it would count for MIS if we tell them to spread word about the free food and they go to do it, it would work as a sort of free trial.

What exactly were we going to offer them? I forgot.
 
A question - What exactly are we doing to the platform? Because as far as I am aware the deal was to fix the place up. There are a lot of meanings to that idea. Are we just cleaning it? Super easy and people helping will be super helpful. Are we trying to restore power and services? Hard, people will be unhelpful, and we end up ether shelling out money for utilities or commit crime. Are we filling the inside of the platform with beautiful art? Cool, but not sure it falls under 'fixing'.

Though I kind of want to turn our crafting excellency on making some bitchen cool wall art.
 
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