Would you Distort or manifest EGO?


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On another note, I confess i haven't actually watched PMMM all the way through from ep1. Most of my knowledge of the series was absorbed via osmosis from the internet and a few clips on youtube. I plan to rectify that today. Time to start a binge session! (Breaks out the doirtos and milk).
That's a funny coincidence, I come from the opposite side in that all of my Project Moon knowledge is secondhand. I've recently bought Lobotomy Corporation and started my first playthrough, no clue if I'll be able to finish. Hope you enjoy PMMM!
 
X really did seem like a General or some sort of military leader.

I mean, hmm, manager's close enough?

She had always wanted to be a doctor, and since it was implied that balancing such a demanding career with being a Magical Girl would be next to impossible Madoka hoped she'd still be able to help people in the same way if she made a Contract.

Or you could be a doctor, trust me, it's the better choice.

She almost died, didn't she? If Homura and X hadn't been there, she would've died. And her whole family would've died, too. Madoka couldn't do anything about it. She had been struck just like everybody else, and very nearly paid for it.

Yeah, we really have to defuse that, she's very close to contracting, way too close for confort actually, at this point I'd take her distorting above it, the result seems less prone to destroying the world from what Lepi's shown.

The Magical Girl remains fixed in place, that same stern expression now perfectly still.

Homura.exe has met an error, reboot? Y/N

and it sounds to Madoka as if Homura has someone in mind as she says it.

*Look very pointedly at Sayaka*

we are a veteran of a war....

Even better: Ayin was the instigator of said war! That has to count double or something, right?

I've recently bought Lobotomy Corporation and started my first playthrough, no clue if I'll be able to finish.

The two most important things to have are actually patience and patience.

The game is made with resets in mind: don't hesitate to restart the day when agents die, use the day reset to scout your new abnormalities without actual risk and if you feel completely stuck, you can reset to day one. Also, missions and EGO gear stays after you do memory repository resets and resets to day one.
 
This was so sweet I took white damage, I think I'm going to shoot myself with an SP bullet.

(I'm too lazy to make the edit but you know the image I have in mind lol)
 
Wouldn't that require a shit ton of things to go wrong tho?

I said I would take it above her witching (well, technically, contracting, but her state means it's the same thing), not that I was interested in it happening at all.

Also, canon shows that once she knows enough, it actually take a lot of shit happening for her to wish, meaning Kyubey would probably get competition in the *do this awesome thing for superpowers may or may not make you a monster* department.
 
Yeah, but the conditions for distorting are even worse than the conditions for wishing.

Like. Really Really bad. Like. Everyone has to be dead kind of bad.

In fact, I'm pretty sure that if just a single one of the people she knows still lives, it would be impossible for Madoka to distort.
 
Yeah so our plan to keep the quintet plus hitomi and yuma alive is good..... I don't want to see arghus principle
Sounds like kriemhild gretchen on steroids
 
But if Madoka could choose, she would want Magic like that. Fighting really wasn't for her, but healing or supporting people? She had always wanted to be a doctor,

Okay. Yeah. Plan "Mini Manager Madoka" is effectively confirmed for me.
If we want her to feel useful enough to not wish taking her on as X's pupil is pretty much the play I'd say.

Also a reason why she should have the book and not anyone else: Even the side branches needed Managers because having someone who does not need to split their attention between recalling how to deal with an Abno and dealing with an Abno at the same time is invaluable.

Also after this night asking Homura to be Madoka's bodyguard in her role as manager should be the best way to:
a) keep her safe from Kyubey
b) keep her safe from Witches and Abno's
c) and ensure she has an Agent capable of executing her commands by her side

Sayaka and Mami want to be Heroes, so chaining them to Madoka is liable to fuel worthlessness in her.
But not like Homura would care about any of that. Have her be Madoka's shadow and boom. Problems solved.
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Also just an idea I got.
Not sure but just to put it up to discussion:

Interpretation: Capacity to extract from thought into existence. Can replicate EGO when given a proper template. Requires use of existing thoughts and beliefs.

Seeing as Abno EGO seems to not refer to that (considering our failures there), what if it refers to extracting and premanifesting a Person's EGO before they manifest it? Letting them get a feel for it and easing the process of gaining it?

Not unlike (AFAIUI) YuRia from Distortion Detective like
An interesting thing about YuRia's EGO is that she can assist people in manifesting (not awakened) theirs like she does with Ezra.
said?

I haven't read Distortion Detective so I cannot comment, but maybe that is the idea behind Interpretation's use?

Also as X is the one extracting it ensuring that it has only supporting uses and no direct combat applications should maybe be viable?
Also because Madoka having some sick equipment that doesn't need her wishing should remove that from QB's pitch as well.

Mainly got the idea because what Madoka said in this sidestory what Magic she'd like reminded me of the Manager's "Supporting Bullet" system.
Her standing back, telling people what to do and aiding them with long-distance shield-bullets seems to almost be exactly her dream.

This Sidestory effectively told me Madoka would have fit right in as a Side Branch Manager considering her wishes and interests.
 
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Seeing as Abno EGO seems to not refer to that (considering our failures there), what if it refers to extracting and premanifesting a Person's EGO before they manifest it? Letting them get a feel for it and easing the process of gaining it?
Sensible...it would help a bit.

But I am still a bit wary of messing around with a person's E.G.O.

But it's worth pursuing. Maybe try it out on...Yuma first? Ugh. My mom-alarms are making it difficult to choose so I'll leave the first test kid chosen to you.

But I kinda don't like it tho.
 
..Why do I get a feeling that if we try to mess with binahs job, we will somehow extract an abno instead of ego.
we are the facility and this facility don't really extract people's ego, we only extract abnormality and extract a abnormalitys ego, if we use it on people... it might have some unforeseen consequences.
 
Also after this night asking Homura to be Madoka's bodyguard in her role as manager should be the best way to:
a) keep her safe from Kyubey
b) keep her safe from Witches and Abno's
c) and ensure she has an Agent capable of executing her commands by her side

You forgot:
d) literally grant her her dearest wish (she did wish to protect Madoka)

Seeing as Abno EGO seems to not refer to that (considering our failures there), what if it refers to extracting and premanifesting a Person's EGO before they manifest it? Letting them get a feel for it and easing the process of gaining it?

That's an idea, now, when can we test it? Hmmm, depending on how this reunion goes, we might (might!) be able to try soon after it, and I can see Madoka volunteering.

Her standing back, telling people what to do and aiding them with long-distance shield-bullets seems to almost be exactly her dream.

Well, replace the shield bullets with arrows and that's basically what she does as a magical girls, so I'd say it works.

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..Why do I get a feeling that if we try to mess with binahs job, we will somehow will extract an abno instead of ego.

Well, that would be one way of getting agnus principle… let's do it!
 
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..Why do I get a feeling that if we try to mess with binahs job, we will somehow extract an abno instead of ego.
we are the facility and this facility don't really extract people's ego, we only extract abnormality and extract a abnormalitys ego, if we use it on people... it might have some unforeseen consequences.
That's why I don't like it. The risk if it goes wrong is immense.

But if it works. If it works, Madoka would be much much safer. Her own E.G.O would protect her without having to rely on E.G.O from outside.
 
Speaking of, since we already have hypothetical Distortions for the girls, I do wonder what new Abnos might be derived from them if things go right wrong?

(But if we are serious about the Manager thing for Madoka we will at least need some means of observing things from far for her, aside from the Book)
 
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But it's worth pursuing. Maybe try it out on...Yuma first?

Eh. To test that we only need
Requires use of existing thoughts and beliefs.

So if time permits we could slowly work our way up from a Grief Seed to a live Familiar to a live Witch and then to some no name consenting volunteer.
And only then if everything is safe try it on one of our kids.

Cause Witches are in the end still 100% human.
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On another note I may be wrong about this, but a piece of X's Abnormality psyche we have not acknowledged:
But the guilt grew and grew until you could bear it no longer, and your next iteration held the lives of their agents in higher regard. Even so, not every day was without sacrifice. Only in the very end could you take everyone with you.

X (AFAIR) only ever speaks of the Agents that died in the facility.
So correct me if I am wrong there, but maybe - just maybe.
To Abno X, even now.

Clerks.
Don't.
Count.
 
That reminds me, it says at the end that X could take everyone with them, but also that maybe 20, 30 made it out (much earlier).
We also know that the max number of Agents in-game is 55, so what gives?

E: Wait. EGO protects from Distortion, but could it protect or partially reverse Witching out too?
 
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It's fine, it's fine, they (clerks, to be clear) do the sensible thing and flee in terror. At least until you get the upgrade that honestly makes them infinitely more likely to die.

[x] Madoka Kaname, with Homura alongside her
 
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It's fine, it's fine, they do the sensible thing and flee in terror. At least until you get the upgrade that honestly makes them infinitely more likely to die.
That's the problem. Even when they flee in terror, they are still stupid. Like, who the fuck flee from punishing Bird and straight into a green noon?
 
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