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The Eleventh Primarch (30K Quest)

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    • Drake Artorius

    Skills
    Governance (Level 4) = Legendary
    Diplomacy (Level 5) = Peerless
    Intrigue (Level 1) = Good
    Personal Combat (Level 4) = Legendary
    Ground Combat (Level 2) = Elite
    Naval Combat (Level 5) = Peerless
    Biomancy (Level 4) = Legendary
    Telepathy (Level 2) = Elite
    Divination (Level 2) = Elite
    Pyromancy (Level 2) = Elite
    Telekinesis (Level 2) = Elite
    Anathematic (Level 4) = Legendary
    Engineering (Level 4) = Legendary

    Traits
    Son of Excalibur = Drake Artorius is a true believer in the Federation of Bladus and the ideals that it stands for.
    Superhuman Charisma = Drake Artorius has inherited great charisma and persuasive ability from his progenitor.
    Little Anathema = Drake Artorius has an echo of his progenitor's antithetical nature to the Ruinous Powers. Immunity to Chaos, Minor Bonus to resisting Chaos for those around you.
    -Hated By Khorne = The Lord of Blood holds a special dislike for Drake Artorius and he and his servants will actively seek to claim his skull for the skull throne.
    -Hated by Slaanesh = The Prince of Pleasure holds a special dislike for Drake Artorius and they and their servants will actively seek to slay him wherever they can.
    Necron Knowledge = Drake Artorius made extensive study of the Necrons, the modern day legacy of the ancient Necrontyr. Major Bonus to fighting Necron forces & Minor Bonus to other interactions with Necron factions.
    Asuryani Knowledge = Drake Artorius has made complete study of the Craftworld Aeldari, the Asuryani. Major Bonus to fighting Asuryani forces & Major Bonus to other interactions with Asuryani factions.
    Drukhari Knowledge = Drake Artorius made some study of the Drukhari, the vile pirates and raiders of Commorragh. Minor Bonus to fighting Drukhari forces & Minor Bonus to other interactions with Drukhari factions.
    Aeldari Knowledge = Drake Artorius has made complete study of the minor Aeldari groups such as the Exodites, the Corsairs and the Harlequins. Major Bonus to fighting Aeldari forces & Major Bonus to other interactions with Aeldari factions
    Mechanicus Knowledge = Drake Artorius has made extensive study of the Mechanicus and its successor factions. Major Bonus to fighting Mechanicus forces & Minor Bonus to other interactions with Mechanicus factions.

    Preferences
    Passionate
    Divination
    Telepathy
    Biomancy

    Liked
    Personal Combat
    Naval Combat
    Pyromancy
    Telekinesis

    Interested
    Governance
    Engineering

    Not Interested
    Diplomacy
    Intrigue

    Disliked
    Ground Combat

    Hated
    None
     
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    • I wonder. If Bladus develops any tech, would we be forced to surrender it all to the Mechanicum or is Bladus allowed to keep it to itself when it's annexed? @Oshha ?
     
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    [X] A Gloriana-class Battleship.
    [X] A new heavy power armour design for marines and army.

    Seems like the most solid buffs for naval forces and ground forces respectively.
     
    KNM said:
    I wonder. If Bladus develops any tech, would we be forced to surrender it all to the Mechanicum or is Bladus allowed to keep it to itself when it's annexed? @Oshha ?
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    That will depend entirely on the conditions of the annexation.

    The Imperium has no standard system, after all.
    Whether you get privileges or genocide depends on a multitude of factors
    - How much trouble you would be to conquer
    - What shape the conquering legion is in
    - Political and other considerations
    - Did the local commander wake up in a bad mood

    KNM said:
    Yeah, but a constant unending revolving wheel of attacks is more than we bargained for.
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    The players voted for the maximum of hostile invading forces, and bought with that the absolute minimum of defenses. They literally chose the most dangerous combination, where they are the most attractive bag of loot in the local area with the least defenses.

    If anything, Oshha is being kind.
     
    10ebbor10 said:
    That will depend entirely on the conditions of the annexation.

    The Imperium has no standard system, after all.
    Whether you get privileges or genocide depends on a multitude of factors
    - How much trouble you would be to conquer
    - What shape the conquering legion is in
    - Political and other considerations
    - Did the local commander wake up in a bad mood


    The players voted for the maximum of hostile invading forces, and bought with that the absolute minimum of defenses. They literally chose the most dangerous combination, where they are the most attractive bag of loot in the local area with the least defenses.

    If anything, Oshha is being kind.
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    Where they keep saying "advanced tech, better equipment and ships" but refuses to actually elaborate on what the "better equipment" we chose or the actual tech level. We have no clue what that "better equipment" means. We could be going from auto guns to las guns

    It's hard to believe when the choices we picked for benefits barely get a sentence while the enemies get back to back indepth chapters about how they're non stop attacking Bladus.
     
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    KNM said:
    Yeah, but a constant unending revolving wheel of attacks is more than we bargained for.
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    Nope, that is exactly what was voted for. The players voted for the maximum amount
    Ragingbear21 said:
    a side question just to be sure but do the Promethean-class have the Nova cannons? also, another question did drake gain in levels?
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    Yes. Both the Glorianas and the Prometheans have nova cannons whilst the Tiamats have torpedoes. Thanks to Drake being a follower of the cult of the nova xannon, all cruiser-weight and above warships will have any torpedo launchers refitted with nova cannons.
    KNM said:
    The equipment and ships were meant to make up for the lack of quantity, turns out that didn't happen at all.

    Hell, what does "better equipment" even mean? Did we go from auto guns to las guns? It wouldn't suprise me. Nothing seems high tech at all whilst you've shown the ability and effectiveness of the enemies chosen but all the benefits chosen hasn't lived up to any expectations at all.

    The lack of any actual detail for the results of our choices really hampers feeling the good results of the choices. You can't just say "better equipment and ships" and refuse to elaborate and explain while having them be attacked and pushed back again. Gives the wrong picture

    Back to back defensive wars have neutered any hopes of actually expanding and flourishing before Drake gets pressganged by the Emperor. No chance of being another Guilliman.
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    KNM said:
    "Kind", where they keep saying "advanced tech, better equipment and ships" but refuses to actually elaborate on what the "better equipment" we chose or the actual tech level. We have no clue what that "better equipment" means. We could be going from auto guns to las guns

    It's hard to believe when the choices we picked for benefits barely get a sentence while the enemies get back to back indepth chapters about how they're non stop attacking Bladus.
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    Except for the part where they have. You are just ignoring the victories and benefits in favour of focusing on the downsides, downsides that the thread choose to take at the start of the quest.
    KNM said:
    I wonder. If Bladus develops any tech, would we be forced to surrender it all to the Mechanicum or is Bladus allowed to keep it to itself when it's annexed? @Oshha ?
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    Try it and find out.
     
    Oshha said:
    Nope, that is exactly what was voted for. The players voted for the maximum amount

    Yes. Both the Glorianas and the Prometheans have nova cannons whilst the Tiamats have torpedoes. Thanks to Drake being a follower of the cult of the nova xannon, all cruiser-weight and above warships will have any torpedo launchers refitted with nova cannons.


    Except for the part where they have. You are just ignoring the victories and benefits in favour of focusing on the downsides, downsides that the thread choose to take at the start of the quest.

    Try it and find out.
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    You have a point. Though minor victories tend to be overshadowed by big defeats or setbacks, but that may just be the pessimist in me.

    Though I notice you still refuse to elaborate on what "better equipment" means. Like is Bladus at least better than the Solar Auxillia?

    I'm hoping we're basically super T'au in tech level considering we're supposed to have preserved a decent level of DAoT database without toaster worshippers to hoard it.

    But, the way you've described it conveys the impression of being a bog standard sector.

    The technological sophistication existed before Drake landed, tech's not even his speciality. Hell, the AI? Absolutely no mention at all, same with the rest of the tech. They just vanish.

    All we see is mentions of Drake kicking ass and a sentence or two about the humans getting killed. None whatsoever about what equipment they actually use. All we know of Bladus is his moms and his girlfriend. There's never any showing aside from conversations between his family or personal combat.

    The picture you're painting is too narrow and it doesn't match up with showing the benefits or even Bladus as a whole, while the downsides have been shown in stark detail.
     
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    SouvikKundu said:
    Will super soldier tree only open for elites? Or we can have a basic genetic enhancement for entire population?
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    Considering this is 40k, at best it'd have the same 1 in 1000 survivors as Space Marines. And that's likely after decades of refinement from more primitive attempts. Not very palatable for a Federation's populace in terms of risk and success to failure ratio.

    Power armor's universal and can compensate for genetics and cybernetics without anywhere near the risk

    I voted for super soldiers because I want to suprise the Emperor that they made knock off Astartes, but power armor is the more practical and safe option.

    Hopefully the design of the power armor isn't as impractically bulky. Like, c'mon what's up with those huge sholder pads
     
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    Oshha said:
    Thanks to Drake being a follower of the cult of the nova xannon, all cruiser-weight and above warships will have any torpedo launchers refitted with nova cannons.
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    Thanks and ALL HAIIL THE NOVA CANNONS.

    [X] Several Promethean-class Cruisers.
    [X] A new heavy power armour design for marines and army.

    Both the Gloriana and the cruisers options are good for me so I am happy with both of them but my personal preference would be the cruisers since they give more nova's and greater flexibility in deployment need but you can't beat a Gloriana in a head to head clash so I understand the argument for it.

    As for the second option Power armour all the way for me. for the new warship design, we don't have a problem with our ships being out of date we simply don't have enough of them so not needed right now maybe when our navy becomes big. As for the third option, it is only the first step of many before we get even near the space marines and we don't really need space marines, unlike the crusade we can take our time conquering our sector so we don't need highly elite soldiers that can go from one conflict to another without stop and with Power armour, good weapons and a targeting system if we get one a squad of Powered armour soldiers can take down space marines so Power armour all the way it will also make our army much stronger which would be necessary if we wish to invade worlds and conquer them.
     
    [X] A few Promethean-class Cruisers and several Tiamat-class Destroyers.

    [X] A new heavy power armour design for marines and army.

    Guys please, the gloriana will not be finished in time to participate in the next 3-4 wars, lets stabilize the fleet first.
     
    SouvikKundu said:
    I reread the whole update again, there are no overt effect of Anathema at all in update. In books it write in terms of sun is risen or how utterly poisonous it to Choas or how daemons always react with hostility towards Anathema. How Primarch fights more or less same as he fought previously.
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    I'm glad someone else pointed it out.

    Every choice that are said to be benefits or advantages have all been no shows. Either forgotten like the initial choices for advanced tech, or just an off hand sentence or two.
     
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    IronFist said:
    Well, when fighting Khorne, some defenders fell. When fighting Slaanesh, that didn't happen, despite Slaanesh being more "tempting".
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    Fair enough though it was barely mentioned at all, an off hand sentence. Like their supposed tech level. It's so non-existent and minor in the narration they may as well not exist at all.

    Maybe I'm being too harsh and pessimistic but it's been several chapters of back to back wars with none of the benefits showing their worth
     
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    Can you guys please stop complaining. The Trait is called little Anathema, I doubt it was meant to transform our Primarch into an Alpha level Null or a beacon of holy psychic energy to cause chaos near him to shrivel up and die.
     
    [X] Several Promethean-class Cruisers.
    [X] A new heavy power armour design for marines and army.
     
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    BOTcommander said:
    Can you guys please stop complaining. The Trait is called little Anathema, I doubt it was meant to transform our Primarch into an Alpha level Null or a beacon of holy psychic energy to cause chaos near him to shrivel up and die.
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    I'm not expecting him to be on the Emperor's level. I'd call foul if he was. @SouvikKundu

    What I take issue with is it, and the rest of the advantages chosen having such a minor presence in the narration that they get an offhand sentence at best or get forgotten about at worst.
     
    KNM said:
    Fair enough though it was barely mentioned at all, an off hand sentence. Like their supposed tech level.
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    We saw the tech level difference when we were on the Chronus dominion ship. They have the same ship, in theory, but they can't utilize them to their full potential, because they can't automate it.
    The federation can build ships in decades that would take the imperium much longer, because they have superior manufacturing.
    The Quality of life in Bladus is very high.
    Stable psykers: Don't get overconfident, and you'll be fine.

    The options from this turn:
    - An entirely new type of ship
    - A new type of Power armor that can be worn by normal humans
    - Reverse engineering some of the Emperor's Gene mods

    We're seeing innovations happening very quickly, which demonstrates how well they understand the technology.
     
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