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I'm expecting cat lose just to avoid disappointment

Levi hesitated. "Here's the thing: the QM is a sapient person, so attempting to manipulate him in any way is wrong right from the get-go. He's also relatively intelligent and vastly more powerful than us, which means that he's likely to notice attempts at manipulation and doing anything that even hints that we might want to can cause backlash. Because of all that, it's a bad idea to go meta and imply that he will do something merely to placate you, instead of respecting his autonomy and giving the benefit of the doubt that he can still produce an entertaining story either way.

I was already leaning pretty heavily towards catkin because I like the idea of super-agile Calliope on a hovering skateboard, plus I have ideas for a wide variety of cat-themed powers that seem like they'd be fun both to read and write. My plan was to talk to an IRL friend who plays this quest and basically give him a chance to convince me out of doing catkin. Now? Now I want to say "Catkin wins because don't imply that you're threatening me with salt."

Buuut, I try not to be petty, and I try to read with charitable intent, so maybe I should interpret the quoted comment as "I think the QM is a really nice guy who, since he's waffling on the choices, will allow the preferences of my faction to be the tie-breaker, despite the fact that we only tied and did not actually win." Or perhaps "I'm telling myself that catkin will lose, simply so that if it does then I'm prepared and if it doesn't then I'm pleasantly surprised."

I'll talk to my friend and give him a chance to convince me that "chronan with three time powers" would be more fun for me to write than "catkin with a larger array of utility- and social-oriented powers".
 
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I was already leaning pretty heavily towards catkin because I like the idea of super-agile Calliope on a hovering skateboard, plus I have ideas for a wide variety of cat-themed powers that seem like they'd be fun both to read and write. My plan was to talk to an IRL friend who plays this quest and basically give him a chance to convince me out of doing catkin. Now? Now I want to say "Catkin wins because don't imply that you're threatening me with salt."

Buuut, I try not to be petty, and I try to read with charitable intent, so maybe I should interpret the quoted comment as "I think the QM is a really nice guy who, since he's waffling on the choices, will allow the preferences of my faction to be the tie-breaker, despite the fact that we only tied and did not actually win." Or perhaps "I'm telling myself that catkin will lose, simply so that if it does then I'm prepared and if it doesn't then I'm pleasantly surprised."

I'll talk to my friend and give him a chance to convince me that "chronan with three time powers" would be more fun for me to write than "catkin with a larger array of utility- and social-oriented powers".


I am sorry if I came across as threatening to be salty but I have the policy of better to be pleasantly surprised then dissponted I wrote that post when getting out of bed I'm a bit grumpy when sleepy and today is Monday

And of course I had to run my mouth again and ruin everything uggg im more salty at myself then you really
 
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This might be interesting to some: (A brief comparison of follower count between us, Carl and Donut.) (end of floor counts Only)
Floor 1Floor 2Floor 3
Royal Court of Princess DonutDonut and Carl
Views: 0
Followers: 0
Favorites: 0
Donut & Carl
Views: 124.8 Trillion
Followers: 2.1 Trillion
Favorites: 234 Billion
Views: 43.1 Quadrilllion
Followers: 677 Trillion
Favorites: 158.1 Trillion

Leaderboard rank: 6
Bounty: 100.000 gold
Team TrickshotTaylor:
Views: 0
Followers: 0
Favorites: 0
Drew:
Views: 0
Followers: 0
Favorites: 0
Calliope:
Views: 0
Followers: 0
Favorites: 0
Moose:
Views: 0
Followers: 0
Favorites: 0
Taylor:
Views: 3.7 Trillion
Followers: 1.4 Trillion
Favorites: 881 Billion
Calliope:
Views: 3.1 Trillion
Followers: 1.4 Trillion
Favorites: 762 Billion
Drew:
Views: 2.2 Trillion
Followers: 932 Billion
Favorites: 461 Billion
Moose:
Views: 5.2 Trillion
Followers: 2.9 Trillion
Favorites: 2.1 Trillion
Taylor:
Views: 1 Quadrillion
Followers: 866 Trillion
Favorites: 743 Trillion
Leaderboard rank: 9
Bounty: 100,000 gold
Calliope:
Views: 582 Trillion
Followers: 491 Trillion
Favorites: 327 Trillion
Drew:
Views: 597 Trillion
Followers: 488 Trillion
Favorites: 299 Trillion
Moose:
Views: 717 Trillion
Followers: 689 Trillion
Favorites: 469 Trillion
Just random commentary.
Looks like Moose is beating out on the followers and favorites count at the end of second floor.

Also note that I stacked Carl and Donut's stuff together because it's kinda hard telling whose count it is but I'm gonna guess it's actually Donut's counts.
 
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This might be interesting to some: (A brief comparison of follower count between us, Carl and Donut.) (end of floor counts Only)
Floor 1Floor 2Floor 3
Royal Court of Princess DonutDonut and Carl
Views: 0
Followers: 0
Favorites: 0
Donut & Carl
Views: 124.8 Trillion
Followers: 2.1 Trillion
Favorites: 234 Billion
To be filled in once we complete it.
Team TrickshotTaylor:
Views: 0
Followers: 0
Favorites: 0
Drew:
Views: 0
Followers: 0
Favorites: 0
Calliope:
Views: 0
Followers: 0
Favorites: 0
Moose:
Views: 0
Followers: 0
Favorites: 0
Taylor:
Views: 3.7 Trillion
Followers: 1.4 Trillion
Favorites: 881 Billion
Calliope:
Views: 3.1 Trillion
Followers: 1.4 Trillion
Favorites: 762 Billion
Drew:
Views: 2.2 Trillion
Followers: 932 Billion
Favorites: 461 Billion
Moose:
Views: 5.2 Trillion
Followers: 2.9 Trillion
Favorites: 2.1 Trillion
To be filled in once we complete it.
Just random commentary.
Looks like Moose is beating out on the followers and favorites count at the end of second floor.

Also note that I stacked Carl and Donut's stuff together because it's kinda hard telling whose count it is but I'm gonna guess it's actually Donut's counts.
seems like carl's group is more likely to be noticed but less likely to be followed/favorited
 
seems like carl's group is more likely to be noticed but less likely to be followed/favorited
To be fair: Taylor has experience cultivating and maintaining an audience due to his YouTube career. Granted, it's not a 100% carryover, and he doesn't have his thumb on the pulse of his audience, but he also has Levi and the talkshow hosts as advisors to help guide him through this new and unfamiliar medium.

I haven't read DCC, but I think it's reasonable enough that Carl would draw views by being pantsless and barefoot (sex sells, after all), but then lack the media training to keep them around. I don't think Carl is an entertainer/artist in the way that Taylor is?
 
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To be fair: Taylorbhas experience cultivating and maintaining an audience due to his YouTube career. Granted, it's not a 100% carryover, and he doesn't have his thumb on the pulse of his audience, but he also has Levi and the talkshow hosts as advisors to help guide him through this new and unfamiliar medium.

I haven't read DCC, but I think it's reasonable enough that Carl would draw views by being pantsless and barefoot (sex sells, after all), but then lack the media training to keep them around. I don't think Carl is an entertainer/artist in the way that Taylor is?
Carl, does have a few people that can help him deal with an audience.

Donut for example was a show animal, and for some godforsaken reason that's helped her become the star of the show for the in story audience.
Then there's the former crawler Odette, who has Carl on her show right after floor 1. (Although she's not available as much as Donut.)
And as I noted at the end it's probably Donut's followers viewers etc.
 
To be fair: Taylor has experience cultivating and maintaining an audience due to his YouTube career. Granted, it's not a 100% carryover, and he doesn't have his thumb on the pulse of his audience, but he also has Levi and the talkshow hosts as advisors to help guide him through this new and unfamiliar medium.

I haven't read DCC, but I think it's reasonable enough that Carl would draw views by being pantsless and barefoot (sex sells, after all), but then lack the media training to keep them around. I don't think Carl is an entertainer/artist in the way that Taylor is?
Carl lucks into followers after huge viewer spikes, Taylor tells them to like and subscribe.
 
iirc the
fight against the Rage Elemental
was said to be the floor 2 fight with the highest view count in the history of the crawl, or something like that. It's suspenseful, spectacular, and people have a lot of time to hear of it and tune in while
Carl is preparing the Mother of All Bombs in the saferoom,
not to mention the attention they had already been getting from Odette's show. It would have been extremely unexpected to get even close to their view count, but as has been said, Team Trickshot's viewership seems more dedicated.
 
iirc the
fight against the Rage Elemental
was said to be the floor 2 fight with the highest view count in the history of the crawl, or something like that. It's suspenseful, spectacular, and people have a lot of time to hear of it and tune in while
Carl is preparing the Mother of All Bombs in the saferoom,
not to mention the attention they had already been getting from Odette's show. It would have been extremely unexpected to get even close to their view count, but as has been said, Team Trickshot's viewership seems more dedicated.
We did very well in race/class selection to pick appealing options for viewers. Chad's play well, either way Leo fits well in Team Trick shots aesthetic, and Taylor has enough charisma to pull off being self-twins
 
When Taylor is touching another crawler does he get a list of actionables he can copy or does he have to know which one he wants in advance?
 
I haven't read DCC, but I think it's reasonable enough that Carl would draw views by being pantsless and barefoot (sex sells, after all), but then lack the media training to keep them around. I don't think Carl is an entertainer/artist in the way that Taylor is?
I haven't read DCC either, but I did read Eaglejarl's DCC fanfic Dungeon Crawler Katia, which he says doesn't diverge from canon until chapter 37, and in it Carl specifically mentions he was part of the Coast Guard.
 
Final Decisions for Drew
Final Decisions for Drew

Author's Note: We're voting on what decisions Drew made when he got his Wizard Supremacist class for this floor. Here's the format we're using:

[x] Plan name here
- [x] copy/paste one of the potential picks here
- [x] copy/paste one of the potential picks here


See below for the list of potential picks.

I will ignore any vote that is misformatted or that leaves out one of the components. The previous vote was a mess and we're not doing that again. In particular, copy and paste the potential picks. Do not try to write them out longhand and screw it up.

Drew gets two choices from the following list. He IS allowed to choose the same things twice:

  • 500,000 gold pieces
  • 300 mana potions
  • 20 mana potions that disregard cooldown
  • A Cheat Code potion that will affect one of your spells
  • A Study Guide potion that will affect one of your spells
  • A Mastery Unlock potion that will affect one of your spells
  • A spellbook of Invulnerability
  • A spellbook of Grease
  • A spellbook of Flash Freeze
  • A spellbook of Bouncer
  • A spellbook of Fuck Off
  • A spellbook of Summer Scent
Repeating from an earlier chapter: "Cheat Code potions increase a random skill or spell that you've recently used, usually by 3," Levi said. "They have a short shelf life, meaning that you need to use them immediately. Study Guide and Mastery Unlock are similar, but Study Guide increases the rate at which the chosen item trains, usually by 5%, and Mastery Unlock allows the item to train to level 20."

The spells are as follows:

  • Invulnerability: Make yourself immune to damage for a very short time
  • Grease: Coat an area and everything/everyone in it with extremely slippery grease. Spherical AOE centered at a range that is still TBD but long enough not to catch you
  • Flash Freeze: A cone of freezing cold shoots out. Freezes water (good for crossing rivers), coats everything in frost, extinguishes minor fires, etc
  • Bouncer: The ground, walls, and ceiling become rubberized. Prevents falling damage, allows you to jump really high and ricochet off walls, etc
  • Fuck Off: Emits a burst of kinetic force from your body that will push everything away without damaging it (unless it slams into something)
  • Summer Scent: Cleans the air in a wide area around you, leaving only clear, breathable air with a faint scent of cut grass and peaches. If there is no air around you then air is generated. Does not activate allergies
Levi's assumption is that when you go down to the next floor you will lose access to any spells that you choose but will keep any physical objects (i.e. gold, mana potions, or spellbooks). You can not keep the Cheat Code, Study Guide, or Mastery Unlock potions, since those need to be used immediately. However, they apply to a randomly-chosen spell, and if they affect a spell that you already had instead of one of the new ones then you will probably keep the benefit.

Note: Originally Drew was supposed to get additional picks off the list of spellbooks. That was a mistake and has been retconned in the earlier chapter.

There will be a vote for Moose's class as soon as I finish up the list of options. I am willing to take suggestions, although I may not use them and I might change them if I do.

I'll give you at least until for voting and then if things are still going strong we can maybe extend it. I don't want anyone to feel rushed.
 
Final Decisions for Drew

Author's Note: We're voting on what decisions Drew made when he got his Wizard Supremacist class for this floor. Here's the format we're using:

[x] Plan name here
- [x] copy/paste one of the potential picks here
- [x] copy/paste one of the potential picks here


See below for the list of potential picks.

I will ignore any vote that is misformatted or that leaves out one of the components. The previous vote was a mess and we're not doing that again. In particular, copy and paste the potential picks. Do not try to write them out longhand and screw it up.

Drew gets two choices from the following list. He IS allowed to choose the same things twice:

  • 500,000 gold pieces
  • 300 mana potions
  • 20 mana potions that disregard cooldown
  • A Cheat Code potion that will affect one of your spells
  • A Study Guide potion that will affect one of your spells
  • A Mastery Unlock potion that will affect one of your spells
  • A spellbook of Invulnerability
  • A spellbook of Grease
  • A spellbook of Flash Freeze
  • A spellbook of Bouncer
  • A spellbook of Fuck Off
  • A spellbook of Summer Scent
Repeating from an earlier chapter: "Cheat Code potions increase a random skill or spell that you've recently used, usually by 3," Levi said. "They have a short shelf life, meaning that you need to use them immediately. Study Guide and Mastery Unlock are similar, but Study Guide increases the rate at which the chosen item trains, usually by 5%, and Mastery Unlock allows the item to train to level 20."

The spells are as follows:

  • Invulnerability: Make yourself immune to damage for a very short time
  • Grease: Coat an area and everything/everyone in it with extremely slippery grease. Spherical AOE centered at a range that is still TBD but long enough not to catch you
  • Flash Freeze: A cone of freezing cold shoots out. Freezes water (good for crossing rivers), coats everything in frost, extinguishes minor fires, etc
  • Bouncer: The ground, walls, and ceiling become rubberized. Prevents falling damage, allows you to jump really high and ricochet off walls, etc
  • Fuck Off: Emits a burst of kinetic force from your body that will push everything away without damaging it (unless it slams into something)
  • Summer Scent: Cleans the air in a wide area around you, leaving only clear, breathable air with a faint scent of cut grass and peaches. If there is no air around you then air is generated. Does not activate allergies
Levi's assumption is that when you go down to the next floor you will lose access to any spells that you choose but will keep any physical objects (i.e. gold, mana potions, or spellbooks). You can not keep the Cheat Code, Study Guide, or Mastery Unlock potions, since those need to be used immediately. However, they apply to a randomly-chosen spell, and if they affect a spell that you already had instead of one of the new ones then you will probably keep the benefit.

Note: Originally Drew was supposed to get additional picks off the list of spellbooks. That was a mistake and has been retconned in the earlier chapter.

There will be a vote for Moose's class as soon as I finish up the list of options. I am willing to take suggestions, although I may not use them and I might change them if I do.

I'll give you at least until for voting and then if things are still going strong we can maybe extend it. I don't want anyone to feel rushed.
So if Drew uses the cheat potion without picking a new spell will it pick from what he already has, or will it pick from among the wizard supremacist list he doesn't have access to?
 
So if Drew uses the cheat potion without picking a new spell will it pick from what he already has, or will it pick from among the wizard supremacist list he doesn't have access to?
Class benefits are applied in order, so he'll already have gotten some Wizard Supremacist spells (Annihilation Dart, Shield) by the time he gets the gear.
 
[X] Plan emergencies
-[X] 20 mana potions that disregard cooldown
-[X] A spellbook of Invulnerability


Explanation: This whole plan exists to increase Drew's reliability, survivability, and utility in boss battles. It also avoids the gacha options because they're either sub-optimal or traps.
  1. Remember that we only keep the spells next layer if we can level them, and pumping them as high as possible right now will make them harder to level. Therefore the cheat code potion is probably not great. The mastery unlock potion (raising the skill cap to 20) is an incredibly long-term bet that may also just apply to something we lose - I'm less than hyped by it. Study guide (faster leveling) could let us keep a spell, and I could be convinced to take it instead of Invulnerability. I just think Invulnerability is a better bet.
  2. Drew is currently suffering from a crippling drawback that stops him from using non-magical weapons, armor, etc. Getting him no-cooldown mana potions should always let him cast more Shield and Annihilation Dart in bad situations.
  3. No-cooldown mana potions are also amazing in boss battles, where "I need to wait a while until I get more mana" could be a disaster, while "I chug one of these and keep smashing it with a high-level annihilation dart spell" is fantastic. DPS is king against bosses.
  4. The spellbook of Invulnerability is something I could be persuaded to dump. It's probably short duration and high mana cost. On the other hand, it seems like an absolute defense and that's definitely incredibly valuable in a pinch.
 
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[X]Plan Why Not?
-[X]A Cheat Code potion that will affect one of your spells
-[X]A Cheat Code potion that will affect one of your spells 2

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Remember that we only keep the spells next layer if we can level them, and pumping them as high as possible right now will make them harder to level. Therefore the study guide potion is probably not great. Similarly, although the cheat code potion could reduce a spell's mana cost I think it could also increase the spell's level, which is similarly to be avoided

...So, I may be misunderstanding, but I would think that the Cheat Code potion leveling the spell counts as, you know, leveling the spell? So if we do keep levels we gain, wouldn't that make Cheat Codes really good?
 
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Drew Third Floor Class Abilities
So if Drew uses the cheat potion without picking a new spell will it pick from what he already has, or will it pick from among the wizard supremacist list he doesn't have access to?
Class benefits are applied in order, so he'll already have gotten some Wizard Supremacist spells (Annihilation Dart, Shield) by the time he gets the gear.

Ah. Right. Actually telling you what he got when he took the class, that thing that I have written into the thus-far-incomplete and not-yet-posted chapter 25. That is a thing that a competent QM might have remembered to do.


I don't usually roll anything in this quest, but I rolled to see which of the various powers Drew would get from copying Wizard Supremacist. In order to get each power he needed to roll under N%, where N was his chance of getting the power.

I rolled four 21s, and a natural 1 on a d100. In fact, the entire set of rolls was super far below average for 14d100. Seriously, what the heck??? Clearly, Fortuna's Favored Child has broken the fourth wall.

Here is what he got:

  • +20 Intelligence
  • The Life for Power benefit
  • +2 to every spell you already have
  • +6 to the Shield spell
  • The Annihilation Dart spell at level 9
  • Enhanced Arcanum: The first of your spells to reach level 15 may be trained to level 20
  • Your mana potion cooldown is decreased by 50%. Cooldown of other potions is unaffected
  • +50% discount at all magic shops
  • VIP membership in the Dungeon Book of the Floor Club
  • Pick two, duplicates allowed [the stuff listed above that we're voting on]

His two spellbooks from the DBOTFC have already been picked up and he has read them. Details are TBD.

[EDIT: Doh. Posted a version of this that had the incorrect benefits received. Corrected.]
 
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Guess there's some special thing where putting the potions in inventory doesn't pause them in time. hmmmmmm. Well if it's a skill or spell we've recently used than it can't pick any class feature from Wizard Supremacist because we haven't used those yet.
I'm thinking study guide and mastery potion? If it effects skills there's a chance Study Guide buffs Fortuna's Favoured Child.
 
[x] Look Mom, I'm a Millionaire!
-[x] 500,000 gold pieces
-[x] 500,000 gold pieces

I feel obligated to make a money vote, ha. Especially with shops being prevalent, might come in handy this floor.
 
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