Dungeon Crawler You!

To my understanding, we're going in specifically to try and win it and save the world, so we aren't going to give up halfway. This means we have two outcomes: victory, or death. We're already prepared to give our life for the slim chance that we make the difference between life and death for humanity, why should we balk at not having the best time afterwards if we win?
You're right, post-crawl withdrawal isn't important. From the non-metagamey perspective, I'm still worried about the effects of short-term and long-term drug use. I suppose we can bring a little bit of drugs and only use them during important battles or for numbing wounds, but I feel iffy making it the core of our combat strategy.

For the metagamey perspective, we aren't the only drug addicts out there. In fact, drug addicts have a higher chance of surviving and descending if they're high on the street at 2am when the staircases appear. I don't think we will stand out that much.

Oh yeah. Speaking of that, we should probably do something about motivating the west side of the world to not be inside any structures at night aaaaaaaaa

@eaglejarl what is the precise date next week when the Great Sucking happens? Asking to determine who will be outside and how receptive they are to the idea of being outside. For example, if it's a weekday then everyone is sort of screwed because they will be wanting quality indoors sleep to get up for work tomorrow.

Incidentally, it wouldn't be the worst idea to figure out how you want to go into the dungeon. What vehicle will you take? If you have more stuff than you can carry on your body then how will you get it into the dungeon? Do you want to burst through the doors with a battlecry the instant it opens, or take your time?
What happens if we throw things in? Can we go in and go back out?
 
@eaglejarl what is the precise date next week when the Great Sucking happens? Asking to determine who will be outside and how receptive they are to the idea of being outside. For example, if it's a weekday then everyone is sort of screwed because they will be wanting quality indoors sleep to get up for work tomorrow.
Friday, November 12. 02:23:17am Eastern time.

What happens if we throw things in? Can we go in and go back out?
You only know what Marjorie told you, and she didn't mention it.


You know, in retrospect, I missed a bet. Instead of writing it in the universe of DCC I should have had the aliens say "Hey, we read this amazing book called 'Dungeon Crawler Carl' and we thought it was so amazing that we're going to make it come true!" Then y'all could have relied on metaknowledge. Grr. I always think of cool ideas too late. Oh well.
 
[x] (Gender) Cis male
[x] (Build) Yo-Yo (control/mid range damage)
[x] (Companion) Your 14-year-old niece, Calliope. Athletic, smart, a good kid who looks up to you
[x] (Gear) Light Combat, Heavy Utility
[x] (Background) A gifted Yo-ist from a young age you were pushed to excell, until far past the breaking point. Your family estranged due to the heartbreak, you leave the art. Eventually, you meet someone who reignited the passion of Yo-Yos. Dramatic terminal illness stuff happens, y'all break up, and then you meet an alien. Oops.
[X] (Prep) Jeff Probst. That's right, you managed to convince Jeff Probst, long time host of Survivor to share his wisdom in pleasing the crowds over 7 hour seminar. Guy likes to talk. The recording may be useful.
 
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Friday, November 12. 02:23:17am Eastern time.


You only know what Marjorie told you, and she didn't mention it.


You know, in retrospect, I missed a bet. Instead of writing it in the universe of DCC I should have had the aliens say "Hey, we read this amazing book called 'Dungeon Crawler Carl' and we thought it was so amazing that we're going to make it come true!" Then y'all could have relied on metaknowledge. Grr. I always think of cool ideas too late. Oh well.
Add a paragraph where Marj reveals that. Who's going to stop you?
 
To my understanding, we're going in specifically to try and win it and save the world, so we aren't going to give up halfway. This means we have two outcomes: victory, or death. We're already prepared to give our life for the slim chance that we make the difference between life and death for humanity, why should we balk at not having the best time afterwards if we win?

There's little point debating any merits other than 'will this increase the odds of success?', and given what I've heard about how the dungeon system operates, it seems highly likely to me that this is a good build.
Apparently the best opening strategy is to stand out in some way, do something ridiculous and entertaining and the AI running the dungeon will reward you for it, giving you abilities based on what you did. The most probable sequence of events for the drug build is that our strategy draws immediate attention and we get perks that lean into combat drug use. Apparently our loot is also likely to start tailoring itself to our gimmick, which honestly means we stand a good chance of winding up with a pseudo-alchemist build, with different magic consumables (i.e. magic dungeon-created drugs) for different situations. This is the kind of opening play that I really think would give us an edge. The only other plan up right now that has real theming like this is Twinstars' plan, and I think my route is at least as viable as theirs.

edit: and if you're worried about metagaming, I came up with the combat-enhancing drug idea before I heard all this.
As far as I can tell from DCC the most important thing past floors 2-3 is being able to draw viewers. Having a strong theme and characters makes that much easier - especially if they have experience being performers. I'm leery of the drug route due to the existence of Blitz sticks, which are basically ūber hard drugs in cigarette form. One hit and you're so hooked you die if you stop. We're begging the system AI to dump a case in our inventory.

I like my idea over the influencer route because movement on the battlefield seems to be the single most important thing in combat, and the yo-yo skill tree should hopefully come with ways to move ourselves and our allies around (obligatory Smoky Quartz/Steven Universe plug).

I still think it and the influencer options are the most viable outside of my own, but there are definite drawbacks. I think the drugs would be best to guarantee surviving until mid game, influencer best if we somehow make it to mid-late, and yo-yos as best all around :*
 
[x] (Name) [Alice 'String' Colbert]
[x] (Gender) Cis female
[x] (Gender) Non-binary
[x] (Build) Yo-Yo (control/mid range damage)
[X] (Companion) Linel "Lead" Wann - Your foil and eternal Yo-Yo rival. Think genderbent your lie in april... with Yo-Yos.
[x] (Gear) Light Combat, Heavy Utility
[x] (Background) A gifted Yo-ist from a young age you were pushed to excell, until far past the breaking point. Your family estranged due to the heartbreak, you leave the art. Eventually, you meet someone who reignited the passion of Yo-Yos. Dramatic terminal illness stuff happens, y'all break up, and then you meet an alien. Oops.
[X] (Prep) Jeff Probst. That's right, you managed to convince Jeff Probst, long time host of Survivor to share his wisdom in pleasing the crowds over 7 hour seminar. Guy likes to talk. The recording may be useful.
 
Can anyone else get a vote tally to show up? Every time I try it says it's preparing a tally and then nothing appears. It works in other threads, but not this one.
 
Adhoc vote count started by eaglejarl on Jun 22, 2022 at 11:51 AM, finished with 32 posts and 11 votes.

  • [x] (Gear) Light Combat, Heavy Utility
    [x] (Gender) Cis male
    [x] (Build) Mage, Utility
    [x] (Gender) Non-binary
    [x] (Build) Support
    [x] (Companion) Your best friend, Thomas. He's your age (34), relatively fit, but a pothead with no ambition
    [x] (Name) [put name here]
    [x] (Gender) Cis female
    [x] (Build) Mage, Blaster
    [x] (Companion) Your 14-year-old niece, Calliope. Athletic, smart, a good kid who looks up to you
    [x] (Build) Yo-Yo (control/mid range damage)
    [X] (Companion) Linel "Lead" Wann - Your foil and eternal Yo-Yo rival. Think genderbent your lie in april... with Yo-Yos.
    [x] (Background) A gifted Yo-ist from a young age you were pushed to excell, until far past the breaking point. Your family estranged due to the heartbreak, you leave the art. Eventually, you meet someone who reignited the passion of Yo-Yos. Dramatic terminal illness stuff happens, y'all break up, and then you meet an alien. Oops.
    [X] (Prep) Jeff Probst. That's right, you managed to convince Jeff Probst, long time host of Survivor to share his wisdom in pleasing the crowds over 7 hour seminar. Guy likes to talk. The recording may be useful.
    [x] (Build) Sneaky
    [x] (Build) Weird
    [x] (Companion) Your 46-year-old older sister, Danielle. Athletic (soccer player) but very bossy and impatient
    [x] (Gear) No marijuana
    [x] (Background) Influencer: What's one more game show? It's a lot, this one's actually quite a lot. But still, you know how to keep your cool under pressure and adapt to the unexpected. If they want a show, you're gonna give them a show.
    [x] (Gender) Trans man (i.e. f2m)
    [x] (Gender) Trans woman (i.e. m2f)
    [x] (Build) Melee, Strength
    [x] (Build) Melee, Dexterity
    [x] (Build) Write in
    [x] (Companion) None
    [x] (Companion) Your 72-year-old divorced mother, Allison. Out of shape and with a bad smoking habit
    [x] (Companion) Your 74-year-old divorced father, Daniel. Athletic for his age but has poor vision, very poor hearing, and a bum knee and shoulder
    [x] (Gear) Heavy Combat
    [x] (Gear) Combat + Utility
    [x] (Gear) Write in
    [x] (Background) Short and Memorable Title
    [x] (Prep) Awesome McCool Name
    [x] (Name) Kagome Yu
    [x] (Build) Paranoid
    [x] (Gear) Drug Berserker: The 'Light Combat' part of 'Light Combat, Heavy Utility', and the 'Utility' part of 'Combat + Utility', with all excess money directed towards a supply of hard drugs (cocaine and amphetamines, potentially combined) that should be well-suited to a berserker rage state.

@Briefvoice
 
As far as I can tell from DCC the most important thing past floors 2-3 is being able to draw viewers. Having a strong theme and characters makes that much easier - especially if they have experience being performers. I'm leery of the drug route due to the existence of Blitz sticks, which are basically ūber hard drugs in cigarette form. One hit and you're so hooked you die if you stop. We're begging the system AI to dump a case in our inventory.
That does actually change the calculus, since if 'drug boost' is already a planned thing we're less likely to get 'points for originality' and more likely to just get Blitz sticks.

This requires further consideration.
 
That does actually change the calculus, since if 'drug boost' is already a planned thing we're less likely to get 'points for originality' and more likely to just get Blitz sticks.

This requires further consideration.
The time scales involved (again relying on canon knowledge) also make drugs less viable. How long could you stay on a meth bender to save the world? A week? Doable. That'd get us past the first two floors. A month? Six? The really deep floors can be multiple years by themselves


Edit: Agh I just realized that I'm not 100% on the details here. I guess it's time to buy the books so I can reference them lol
 
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Edit: Agh I just realized that I'm not 100% on the details here. I guess it's time to buy the books so I can reference them lol
Note: Cheaper to throw $3 at Matt's Patreon. It gets you all chapters of all books instead of having to buy them individually. Granted, you then have to read them in the Patreon site/app or manually download them.
 
[x] (Background) Influencer: What's one more game show? It's a lot, this one's actually quite a lot. But still, you know how to keep your cool under pressure and adapt to the unexpected. If they want a show, you're gonna give them a show.
 
Adhoc vote count started by eaglejarl on Jun 22, 2022 at 11:12 PM, finished with 36 posts and 11 votes.

  • [x] (Gear) Light Combat, Heavy Utility
    [x] (Gender) Cis male
    [x] (Build) Mage, Utility
    [x] (Companion) Your best friend, Thomas. He's your age (34), relatively fit, but a pothead with no ambition
    [x] (Gender) Non-binary
    [x] (Build) Support
    [x] (Background) Influencer: What's one more game show? It's a lot, this one's actually quite a lot. But still, you know how to keep your cool under pressure and adapt to the unexpected. If they want a show, you're gonna give them a show.
    [x] (Companion) Your 14-year-old niece, Calliope. Athletic, smart, a good kid who looks up to you
    [x] (Build) Yo-Yo (control/mid range damage)
    [x] (Background) A gifted Yo-ist from a young age you were pushed to excell, until far past the breaking point. Your family estranged due to the heartbreak, you leave the art. Eventually, you meet someone who reignited the passion of Yo-Yos. Dramatic terminal illness stuff happens, y'all break up, and then you meet an alien. Oops.
    [X] (Prep) Jeff Probst. That's right, you managed to convince Jeff Probst, long time host of Survivor to share his wisdom in pleasing the crowds over 7 hour seminar. Guy likes to talk. The recording may be useful.
    [x] (Gear) No marijuana
    [x] (Build) Mage, Blaster
    [x] (Name) [Alice 'String' Colbert]
    [x] (Gender) Cis female
    [X] (Companion) Linel "Lead" Wann - Your foil and eternal Yo-Yo rival. Think genderbent your lie in april... with Yo-Yos.
    [x] (Name) Kagome Yu
    [x] (Build) Paranoid
    [x] (Gear) Drug Berserker: The 'Light Combat' part of 'Light Combat, Heavy Utility', and the 'Utility' part of 'Combat + Utility', with all excess money directed towards a supply of hard drugs (cocaine and amphetamines, potentially combined) that should be well-suited to a berserker rage state.
    [x] (Build) Weird
    [x] (Companion) Your 46-year-old older sister, Danielle. Athletic (soccer player) but very bossy and impatient
    [x] (Build) Sneaky


Voting is closed. Discussion and voting has tapered off, there's some cool ideas in here, and I want to get to writing.

Based on discussion over in the #dungeon-crawler-you Discord channel it seems like there are still ideas to be had and at least one person was wishing they had gotten their thoughts out. There's at least one thing I would like to solicit advice on (fast money-making schemes), and the background + name votes ended up either tied or not working very well. All things considered, I'll reopen it. I'll close in in the morning on Friday.
 
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Omake: A Stomach-Clenching Discovery
Behold! Our first omake. I was considering making this a canon chapter but decided I didn't actually want to lean that hard on the fourth wall.


Omake: A Stomach-Clenching Discovery

Your trip back to the parking lot takes significantly longer than the trip out did. Mostly because you're so deep in shock that you can barely make your feet move.

Some unknown period of time later, you come back to full awareness to find yourself in the driver's seat, hands clenched on the wheel so tight that you're worried it will bend. Your whole body is shaking and you're alternating back and forth between freezing cold and sweltering.

This can't be real.

Seriously, this cannot possibly be real.

What if it is?

The alien was real, surely. What if everything she had said was real too?

Seven days. That was all you had. The world would end in seven days. Look, your phone even gave you the precise number of seconds, because there really was a timer running, counting down from seven days. Actually, counting down from 162 hours, 27 minutes, and 13...12...11..10 seconds.

You watched the timer tick down for a full minute. One second. Two. Three. Four. Grinding inevitably towards the apocalypse. Sixty wasted seconds that you would never get back.

No. No, this was too much. Your brain couldn't accept the idea of billions of deaths, inevitable and unavoidable. The worst part was that they weren't strictly inevitable. In theory, if you could survive through eighteen floors of violence and blood then you could rescue everyone.

How much profit would there be from a reality show with an octillion viewers? Probably a lot, and every space dollar of it was one more motivation for this 'Borant' to ensure that the dungeon was unsurvivable.

Unsurvivable. By you. If you went into that dungeon, you would die and the hope for billions of lives would die with you. Would it perhaps be better to be safe in your bed 162 hours, 25 minutes, and 42...41...40 seconds from now? Leave the rescue to someone else, and if no one managed it then you simply wouldn't wake up again. Painless. Might have to drink yourself to sleep since you'd probably be too terrified to fall asleep without assistance. Still.

You shook your head. This was too much. You were tired, hungry, and shocky. The world could wait for a couple of hours while you got yourself together.

o-o-o-o​

It took 41 minutes and 17 seconds to drive back to town and find a parking place. Then another 9 minutes and 38 seconds in line at your favorite cafe and 3 minutes 22 seconds to wolf down a heavenly turkey and cheddar grinder and slurp down every drop of their fresh-squeezed orange juice. The food helped, a little, but you were still out of it.

You took 2 minutes and 6 seconds to walk down the block to Discovery Books, a cute little hole-in-the-wall book store where you had whiled away many an hour. Ross, the grumpy old owner, wasn't big on organization. The walls were lined with shelves from floor to cathedral ceiling and mobile ladders slid back and forth to allow access to the upper shelves. Standing bookshelves defined narrow alleys through the space. Books were shoved haphazardly onto each shelf without regard for category, title, or author's name. Two tables in the front had piles of books on them that looked as though someone had dumped out a wheelbarrow. The counter, with an ancient manual cash register and a glowering Ross behind it, was against the right hand wall as you walked in.

You gave him a smile and a nod and received a grunt in reply. A man of few words was Ross.

You chose an aisle at random and wandered down it, trailing one finger across the spines of the books in order to have contact with physical reality, with some trace of normality. With a world in which books existed, and were hoarded by grumpy old shopkeepers who loomed dragon-like at the entrance. If 'Marjorie' was truthful then all of this was going to cease to exist in another 160 hours, 28 minutes, and 8 seconds.

You would never be quite sure what made you stop and pull that particular book off the shelf. A voice in the back of your head, the voice of your better judgement, was screaming at you that this made no sense and that with only 160 hours, 27 minutes, and 55 seconds left before the world was destroyed, why were you idly browsing for entertainment books? Get ready! the voice shrieked. Buy lots of guns! Something. Anything.

You ignored the voice. You knew that it was right, but you ignored it anyway. You simply couldn't deal with it right now. Right now, you were going to buy a few books. Besides, this was useful, right? There probably weren't a lot of books in the dungeon. You would need something to read at bedtime if you wanted to sleep so that you were rested for the next day's battles. No, this wasn't wasted time, these were important supplies that you were shopping for.

You pulled the book off the shelf and glanced at the cover: Dungeon Crawler Carl, by Matt Dinniman. The cover was a man (presumably Carl?) in a leather jacket and heart-covered boxers running away from a spike-wheeled bulldozer driven by a little green man. A fat cat ran beside probably-Carl. You smiled; it was a funny picture.

You flipped it open and skimmed a few paragraphs. You were going to buy it, you knew that already, but this was part of the ritual.

The transformation occurred at approximately 2:23 AM, Pacific Standard time. As far as I could tell, pretty much anyone who was indoors when it happened was instantly killed. If you had any sort of roof over you, you were dead. That included people in cars, airplanes, subways. Even tents and cardboard boxes. Hell, probably umbrellas, too. Though I'm not so sure about that one.

What.

It took a moment, but you finally gathered yourself enough to skim quickly through the first few pages.

Carl, last name never mentioned, was outside rescuing his girlfriend's prize-winning cat from a tree. Suddenly, all the buildings got sucked down into the ground. Shortly thereafter, a robotic voice explained that the Borant Corporation had acquired the rights to mine Earth but humans could win back ownership if they made it through the 18-level world dungeon.

What. The. Fuck.

Marjorie had been describing the plot of a novel.

Was this a space alien prank? She showed up to tell the primitive human the plot of a science fantasy novel, just to be a troll? Or, perhaps more frightening, was she being honest? Was she some bored but massively powerful being who had decided to enact the plot of a novel for her own amusement? Were billions of people really going to die simply because Matt Dinniman (whoever that was!) had written a story engaging enough to catch the imagination of a toxic fan who happened to have godlike power?

This had to be prank. The space-person equivalent of Punk'd or Candid Camera, where the producers gaslighted some poor victim for the entertainment of the masses.

Right?

Please?
 
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[x] (Prep) Take out as many predatory day/quick/short-term loans as you can during the week, max out all your credit cards, and leverage the additional funds to purchase high amounts of supplies.

[x] (Prep) Take out as many predatory day/quick/short-term loans as you can during the week, max out all your credit cards, and leverage the additional funds to purchase high amounts of supplies. Also, rent a car the day of the event, to drive into the Dungeon.
 
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I hope we go with an influencer!

I'd recommend getting a (small enough to drive in) car readied and to drive directly into the dungeon the moment it spawns. On one hand: we get a cool scene. On the other hand, we'll probably get a lootbox both for driving a car in and being the first person in.
 
[x] (Companion) Your 14-year-old niece, Calliope. Athletic, smart, a good kid who looks up to you
[x] (Background) Influencer: What's one more game show? It's a lot, this one's actually quite a lot. But still, you know how to keep your cool under pressure and adapt to the unexpected. If they want a show, you're gonna give them a show.
 
I hope we go with an influencer!

I'd recommend getting a (small enough to drive in) car readied and to drive directly into the dungeon the moment it spawns. On one hand: we get a cool scene. On the other hand, we'll probably get a lootbox both for driving a car in and being the first person in.
Agreed, and we should go for a classic muscle car especially if we're an influencer. No matter what type of car we bring we'll have to leave it behind unless we can lift it by the end of the first floor - unless it's a big enough part of our image that the AI encourages it
 
[x] (Background) Influencer: What's one more game show? It's a lot, this one's actually quite a lot. But still, you know how to keep your cool under pressure and adapt to the unexpected. If they want a show, you're gonna give them a show.
[x] (Prep) Take out as many predatory day/quick/short-term loans as you can during the week, max out all your credit cards, and leverage the additional funds to purchase high amounts of supplies.
[x] (Prep) Take out as many predatory day/quick/short-term loans as you can during the week, max out all your credit cards, and leverage the additional funds to purchase high amounts of supplies. Also, rent a car the day of the event, to drive into the Dungeon.

[X] (Prep) Learn very basic verbal and written Mandarin Chinese. Enough to recognize words like danger, safety, is, is not, here, there, etc.

[X] (Prep) World's End Dancehall: As an influencer, take advantage of National Happy Hour Day to save lives! Hold a massive rave outside at 2 am on the day of the Sucking on Elm Street somewhat far away from the stairwell (park car near actual stairwell and make it inconspicuous) with lots and lots of booze to encourage people to be outside. Promote the event on social media, get your influencer friends to publicize and/or support it. Use your influencer contacts to find talented friends willing to help you out, or other up-and-comers willing to perform "for exposure". Sell out to Big Beer or promise future collab videos if that's what's needed to make it possible.

[X] (Prep) World's End Dancehalln't Conspiracy: As an influencer, invite your other influencer contacts to conspire against the public to gain fame! (but also to save lives.) While you promote the rave to end all raves, another influencer will post indignities against you, criticizing society's moral failings, raging against our capitalist systems, and lastly introducing the newest social media challenge: lie down on the Elm Street sidestreets (i.e. NOT near the rave) on the night of the rave as a civilized protest against the consumerist lifestyle. (something catchy like the ice bucket challenge) Your other friends will speak out for or against both of you. Now we've managed to polarize the issue! People will be forced to choose sides, and whichever side they choose will lead them to be outside.
 
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[x] (Prep) Take out as many predatory day/quick/short-term loans as you can during the week, max out all your credit cards, and leverage the additional funds to purchase high amounts of supplies. Also, rent a car the day of the event, to drive into the Dungeon.
 
[X] (Companion) Your 14-year-old niece, Calliope. Athletic, smart, a good kid who looks up to you
[X] (Companion) Your best friend, Thomas. He's your age (34), relatively fit, but a pothead with no ambition
[X] (Prep) Take out as many predatory day/quick/short-term loans as you can during the week, max out all your credit cards, and leverage the additional funds to purchase high amounts of supplies. Also, rent a car the day of the event, to drive into the Dungeon.

[X] (Name) IceFurious. It's your online name, but you see no reason why "Eric Shoemaker" should be more valid now that all the legal documents have been destroyed.

Not 100% on 'IceFurious' specifically, but we need some kind of name and I like the idea of our MC eschewing their legal name and just going by the name everyone knows them by. Feel free to vote in a different username, I'll probably support all of them.
 
[x] (Prep) Take out as many predatory day/quick/short-term loans as you can during the week, max out all your credit cards, and leverage the additional funds to purchase high amounts of supplies. Also, rent a car the day of the event, to drive into the Dungeon.

[X] (Prep) Learn very basic verbal and written Mandarin Chinese. Enough to recognize words like danger, safety, is, is not, here, there, etc.

[X] (Prep) World's End Dancehall: As an influencer, take advantage of National Happy Hour Day to save lives! Hold a massive rave outside at 2 am on the day of the Sucking, with lots and lots of booze to encourage people to be outside. Promote the event on social media, get your influencer friends to publicize and/or support it. Use your influencer contacts to find talented friends willing to help you out, or other up-and-comers willing to perform "for exposure". Sell out to Big Beer or promise future collab videos if that's what's needed to make it possible.

[X] (Prep) World's End Dancehalln't Conspiracy: As an influencer, invite your other influencer contacts to conspire against the public to gain fame! (but also to save lives.) While you promote the rave to end all raves, another influencer will post indignities against you, criticizing society's moral failings, raging against our capitalist systems, and lastly introducing the newest social media challenge: lie down on the streets on the night of the rave as a protest against the consumerist lifestyle. (something catchy like the ice bucket challenge) Your other friends will speak out for or against both of you. Now we've managed to polarize the issue! People will be forced to choose sides, and whichever side they choose will lead them to be outside.
 
I applaud the fact that everyone is trying to save lives and I have no dog in the race as to whether you do it, but I want to point one thing out: every person that you convince to be outside at the moment of Collapse is going to have to survive on the surface, in winter, with no shelter, no stored food, no medicine, and no tools. Not just for the rest of the night, but indefinitely. A lot of those people are going to starve or freeze. Saving lives isn't as simple as "convince them to be outside."
 
I applaud the fact that everyone is trying to save lives and I have no dog in the race as to whether you do it, but I want to point one thing out: every person that you convince to be outside at the moment of Collapse is going to have to survive on the surface, in winter, with no shelter, no stored food, no medicine, and no tools. Not just for the rest of the night, but indefinitely. A lot of those people are going to starve or freeze. Saving lives isn't as simple as "convince them to be outside."
Can we save a dog?

[X] (companion) A Hecking Big Dog. A really hecking good boy.
 
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