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This is also a crazy combo that deserves some love

[X] Win with money
Taylor Race: Scion of the Zree
Taylor Class: Diva
Leo race: Juvenile Tortuga
Leo class: Jinette
 
[] Skate or Die
-[X] Taylor: Multacorpalan SysOp
-[X] Leo: Tortugan Juvenile Wheeler Dealer
 
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Literally impossible. Scion locks Charisma to 3. Diva requires Charisma 30.
Taylor is getting both at once, and meets l requirements for both at once. Not meeting reps after having the class is irrelevant

[X] Skate or Die
-[X] Taylor: Multacorpalan SysOp
-[X] Leo: Tortugan Juvenile Wheeler Dealer
 
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If Skate or Die gets close to the other two I'll switch off catkin Leo for that.

So if you don't want catkin, vote Skate or Die!
 
Literally impossible. Scion locks Charisma to 3. Diva requires Charisma 30.
Welll...strictly speaking, you could make it work.

Race and class requirements must be met in order to lock them in. Class effects kick in immediately, race effects only after you transform. Taylor meets the requirements for Scion (i.e. he has a royal/imperial ancestor sometime in the past 1,000 years), so that's fine. In order to meet the requirements for the Diva class, he could dump 25 out of his 42 stat points into Charisma, which would get him to 30 and qualify him for Diva. Since he meets the requirements, he could select and lock in the class. With that done, he goes through his transformation and his Charisma drops to 3. Later, when he eventually gets to 50 Con and 50 Int, he can use his Zree powers to transform into whatever race he chooses (that he has touched a member of). The "your Charisma is set to 3" penalty will be removed and his Charisma will immediately zip back up to 30 before the bonuses/penalties of his post-metamorphosis race are applied.
 
If Skate or Die gets close to the other two I'll switch off catkin Leo for that.

So if you don't want catkin, vote Skate or Die!
I didn't bother commenting earlier, because I didn't think it would get anywhere, but since I'm posting now anyway...
Tortugan unlocks an Earth exclusive Class. Not multiple, like every other race that unlocks any. The only special class it unlocks is the Juvenile Mutant Ninja. So, no, you can't have a Tortugan Wheeler Dealer.


In order to meet the requirements for the Diva class, he could dump 25 out of his 42 stat points into Charisma, which would get him to 30 and qualify him for Diva. Since he meets the requirements, he could select and lock in the class. With that done, he goes through his transformation and his Charisma drops to 3.
I still have zero interest in this combo, but since we're bringing up the edge case that makes it work, would the class actually function in those conditions, or would losing its requirement turn off all its Actionables?
 
Adhoc vote count started by eaglejarl on Sep 24, 2022 at 10:07 PM, finished with 627 posts and 42 votes.


I still have zero interest in this combo, but since we're bringing up the edge case that makes it work, would the class actually function in those conditions, or would losing its requirement turn off all its Actionables?
My initial thought is that it would continue to work. I feel like losing 1 point of Charisma because, e.g., you got a burn on your face (*) shouldn't cost you your class, and nor should putting on Drew's "+2 Int, -1 Cha" propellor beanie. At that point we're into "does taking one grain of sand away make it stop being a pile?" territory and might as well simply say that you don't lose your class simply because your stats drop below the limits.

That's a ponwog (Personal Opinion, Not Word of God, meaning that it's an initial thought, not carefully considered, and not binding going forward).

(*) I haven't thought about / decided whether or not injuries can reduce your Charisma.

I'm sad Scion seems to have fallen by the wayside. I imagine the QM has some interesting ideas for the plotline if it was an included option.
It would have been a lot of fun, yes. All the fun stuff you could have been sent in Benefactor boxes, maybe a royal vizier reaching out to tell you that they've prepared your starter planet for after the crawl so that you can get some practice at this whole 'ruling' thing before they bring you out into the big leagues where you're managing percentages of the galaxy that have positive numbers on the left side of the decimal point. All kinds of stuff.
 
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Voting is still active and people are actually proposing new and interesting combos. Okay, final answer:

Voting will close . No more extension after that point, even if voting is in a frenzy.

(Obviously, I'm still lazy so if I'm not at the computer exactly at 10pm then it might be a bit later, but that's not the point.)
 
[X] Plan Catkin Zree
-[X] Leo: Catkin Wheeler Dealer
-[X] Taylor: Scion of the Zree Sysop

I want to see where all the Zree stuff would go to. Although I'm not sure where I should add that this vote would lock Taylor into human.
 
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eaglejarl (he/him)Today at 10:27 PM
Hm. You know, you actually could make this work. Taylor gets Sysop. Either Leo, Taylor, or Drew gets a race/class that provides a bonus of at least 2 to Int. Taylor copies that bonus to Moose, making him sapient. You're still in the middle of path selection, so Moose gets to select a race and class.

I would definitely do that. Not sure about if he qualifies after path selection ends; I'm leaning towards no.


This would, however, mean that Taylor has no class powers for the rest of the third floor.
 
I didn't bother commenting earlier, because I didn't think it would get anywhere, but since I'm posting now anyway...
Tortugan unlocks an Earth exclusive Class. Not multiple, like every other race that unlocks any. The only special class it unlocks is the Juvenile Mutant Ninja. So, no, you can't have a Tortugan Wheeler Dealer.
Oh, damn. Shame.

On the plus side...
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eaglejarl (he/him)Today at 10:27 PM

Hm. You know, you actually could make this work. Taylor gets Sysop. Either Leo, Taylor, or Drew gets a race/class that provides a bonus of at least 2 to Int. Taylor copies that bonus to Moose, making him sapient. You're still in the middle of path selection, so Moose gets to select a race and class.

I would definitely do that. Not sure about if he qualifies after path selection ends; I'm leaning towards no.
We could go have Drew Charactor Act Democratic Senator to do that.
 
Per discord if we can get a large int buff, copy it to Moose he can go through the process too. This is the best option for it

[X] Drew: Wizard supremacist
 
This would, however, mean that Taylor has no class powers for the rest of the third floor.
Honestly? Worth. Whatever it takes to get Moose a class while he can - this is a limited time offer so we should jump on it as fast as we can. Hopefully Drew's luck will make this go smoothly and we actually get the Int buff.

So Democratic Senator and Wizard Supremacist are both going on my list on account of everything.

Gonna delete my vote for TV Psychic to help push those votes up.

[X] Drew: Wizard supremacist
 
This is essentially a choice between "Taylor loses his class for this floor" and "Moose loses his class and race for all floors". As much as I want to get into playing with SysOp immediately, we just wouldn't be a responsible pet owner if we left our good boy in the lurch like that.

[X] Drew: Wizard supremacist

The Mystic Scholar spellbook cheese will still be around next floor. This is more important.
 
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[X] (Drew) Democratic Senator
[X] Drew: Wizard supremacist

Democratic Senator will do the trick too!
 
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eaglejarl (he/him)Today at 10:27 PM
Hm. You know, you actually could make this work. Taylor gets Sysop. Either Leo, Taylor, or Drew gets a race/class that provides a bonus of at least 2 to Int. Taylor copies that bonus to Moose, making him sapient. You're still in the middle of path selection, so Moose gets to select a race and class.

I would definitely do that. Not sure about if he qualifies after path selection ends; I'm leaning towards no.


This would, however, mean that Taylor has no class powers for the rest of the third floor.
Can we, instead, copy Character Actor to Taylor or Leo, have them select Train Conductor, and give Moose a Training ticket to make the Int bonus from the beanie inherent and permanent?
 
I do agree with going Train Conductor for Drew, though, if we can use the train tickets on Moose.

That way two out of three of the available actionables that he could get with FCA would get Moose sapience.
 
I'm honestly happy with whatever wins so long as it leads to the Moose getting his class; since this is so limited, I'm happy to support any and all plans that point to that.
 
What if we did a general vote for Moose, which would stand in for "whatever the highest option is that gets Moose sapience and a class"

[X] Moose
 
[X] Moose
I do agree with going Train Conductor for Drew, though, if we can use the train tickets on Moose.

That way two out of three of the available actionables that he could get with FCA would get Moose sapience.
I'm... not entirely sure we'd get any tickets. Train Ticket specifies that it only gives tickets "At the end of class selection" (which has already happened) and "At the start of each floor thereafter" (which is too late). Former Child Actor might count as 'class selection', but I don't really wanna bet on it.
 
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