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We should keep an extra spellbook for the next floor. After they patch it to be a skill, we use the book to get the spell version back and keep making them for another floor.
 
We should keep an extra spellbook for the next floor. After they patch it to be a skill, we use the book to get the spell version back and keep making them for another floor.
Sounds like a stretch that they'd let that happen, but may be worth it to have such a book when they patch it, incase it gets turned into something else.
 
[X] (Drew) Local-Access TV Psychic

Honestly, chances for us to get whatever we please from character actor might be influenced by luck or not.
 
Honestly, I would prefer to copy the Skill: Character Actor for this floor for a 90% of a second class tacked onto Taylor/Leo.

[X] (Drew) Local-Access TV Psychic
Next floor, we can copy the Spellbook skill.

There are just so many good skills to take. What about copying Roll-up? That's the entire wheeler dealer class there.
 
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What about copying Roll-up?
"Yeah," Taylor said after a moment. "Primal has that thing where all skills are unlocked. Does that mean it could learn how to do Rollup and make higher-level lootboxes from lower-level ones?"

"No," Levi said firmly. "I am as positive as I can be that there is not going to be any way to get Rollup without having the Wheeler Dealer class. Honestly, it's suicidal of the showrunners to even have one method of someone getting and using that skill.
 
Yes, but he was asking about learning skills, which you need to train hard. We're talking about Sysop copying actionables here. There shouldn't be any chance of failure.
 
Honestly, I would prefer to copy the Skill: Character Actor for this floor for a 90% of a second class tacked onto Taylor/Leo.
My current list for what to copy (maybe), without order or prioritization:
Character Actor for everyone
Multi-Drew, Multi-Caliope
Potentialy something from what Caliope gets from Catkin (IF it is awesome enough)

Runner up but probably not worth delaying something from above list:
Scroll writing to Taylor.
 
Copying character actor gets less and less valuable with time, as skills are increasingly under-leveled compared to your layer. This isn't a problem for Drew because Character Actor itself increases in level over time and provides more than the normal class minimum, but if we copy it later we'd get the copy at level 1 and it would be fairly underwhelming.
Multi-Drew and Multi-Leo have the same "you really want to take them as early as possible" problem. Meanwhile Multi- improves survivability quite a bit once it gets going, moreso than Character Actor.

Therefore in the short term I suggest copying Multi- for both our allies, and in future layers Character Actor will have fallen so far beneath the power curve that I'll be voting to copy other stuff (probably other strong racial features we come across, or specific class abilities Drew gets through Character Actor, etc).
 
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Copying character actor gets less and less valuable with time, as skills are increasingly under-leveled compared to your layer.
Multi-Drew and Multi-Leo have the same "you really want to take them as early as possible" problem. Meanwhile Multi- improves survivability quite a bit once it gets going, moreso than Character Actor.

Therefore in the short term I suggest copying Multi- for both our allies, and in future layers Character Actor will have fallen so far beneath the power curve that I'll be voting to copy other stuff (probably other strong racial features we come across, or specific class abilities Drew gets through Character Actor, etc).
Otoh it may get us "Diva" for Taylor. Or Other non-skill actionable heavy things like Metamage with its Metamagic. Adding Spread to Pyrophilia? Or Spread and IFF to Fireball (or even better: that fire Tornado we saw with the Valkyries)
 
Been reading through the Quest and enjoying it a lot!

Moose is the best boy and can do nothing wrong.

[X] Plan: Wheeling, Dealing, System Screwing Multacorpalan
-[X] Leo
--[X] Race (L): Doppelganger
--[X] Class: Wheeler Dealer
-[X] Taylor
--[X] Race (T): Multacorpalan
--[X] Class: Sysops

This seems fun. Doppelganger seems good for Calliope - steel skin would be helpful given her habit of getting into danger. If we find some chrome steel, with the skateboard she could get a "Silver Skater" look going!

I assume there's a lot of nonsense that Taylor can do with his clones.

[X] (Drew) Mystic Scholar

We're picking a lot of classes that will payout more as we get deeper into the dungeon, so getting Fireball straight away so we have a big stick for this floor feels like a very good idea. Also, whilst I don't fully understand it and did not want to go back to wherever it was outlined, the "recursive spellbook" idea appeals to me.

[X] (Moose Box) Do not take Moose's boxes

This is sentimental, but Moose is the goodest boy and deserves his boxes. (Also, the AI likes Moose.)
 
We're picking a lot of classes that will payout more as we get deeper into the dungeon, so getting Fireball straight away so we have a big stick for this floor feels like a very good idea. Also, whilst I don't fully understand it and did not want to go back to wherever it was outlined, the "recursive spellbook" idea appeals to me.
TL;DR Create Spellbook lets you create spellboks from spells you know, and Create Spellbook is a spell.
 
An important interaction that I can't remember how it works: whenever you go down a floor all of your personal space and crafting tables upgrade by one level. We can't access them until floor four, but if Diva gives them to us now will they still get an extra level up?

Also, I don't think character actor will give any skills outside of actually going through a stairwell/being g teleported to a new floor. I predict that exactly nothing will happen when Taylor uses the sysop ability until they actually go down the stairs.

On a related note, Taylor has some really really strong class options and getting character actor on him is actually kinda nuts.

We still need to get 2 body problem on Leo before she starts making legendary+ boxes (yes, I know the gear is only duplicated when a new body is made. That's why it's important to do it early instead of right before making a bunch of stuff.) Plus she already has some really good loot to copy. I want to see a fleet of Catkin Leo's burning a town down together
 
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Could someone kindly summarise the arguments in the Catkin vs Doppelganger debate? I find myself torn regarding which of the leading options I wish to vote for.

Right now I'm leaning towards doppelganger, as it's essentially an entire replacement class for Wheeler Dealer (which doesn't do anything besides out of combat loot improvement) due to all the skills which need to be trained, but catkin likely has better audience synergy, which is always important.
 
Copying character actor gets less and less valuable with time, as skills are increasingly under-leveled compared to your layer. This isn't a problem for Drew because Character Actor itself increases in level over time and provides more than the normal class minimum, but if we copy it later we'd get the copy at level 1 and it would be fairly underwhelming.
Multi-Drew and Multi-Leo have the same "you really want to take them as early as possible" problem. Meanwhile Multi- improves survivability quite a bit once it gets going, moreso than Character Actor.

Therefore in the short term I suggest copying Multi- for both our allies, and in future layers Character Actor will have fallen so far beneath the power curve that I'll be voting to copy other stuff (probably other strong racial features we come across, or specific class abilities Drew gets through Character Actor, etc).
Pretty sure Character Actor auto levels itself when you go down a floor. It's part of the skill, not the class that levels it up.
Multi... may not be the survivability we're looking at. Each extra body is a body that could die and debuff the rest.
It improves the physical attack side, but not defense.

An important interaction that I can't remember how it works: whenever you go down a floor all of your personal space and crafting tables upgrade by one level. We can't access them until floor four, but if Diva gives them to us now will they still get an extra level up?

Also, I don't think character actor will give any skills outside of actually going through a stairwell/being g teleported to a new floor. I predict that exactly nothing will happen when Taylor uses the sysop ability until they actually go down the stairs.

On a related note, Taylor has some really really strong class options and getting character actor on him is actually kinda nuts.

We still need to get 2 body problem on Leo before she starts making legendary+ boxes (yes, I know the gear is only duplicated when a new body is made. That's why it's important to do it early instead of right before making a bunch of stuff.) Plus she already has some really good loot to copy. I want to see a fleet of Catkin Leo's burning a town down together
Doesn't it mean we should get 2 body later? You wear it, and duplicate it.
If you make a new body first, you have 1 item to be shared by 2 bodies.
 
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Could someone kindly summarise the arguments in the Catkin vs Doppelganger debate? I find myself torn regarding which of the leading options I wish to vote for.

Right now I'm leaning towards doppelganger, as it's essentially an entire replacement class for Wheeler Dealer (which doesn't do anything besides out of combat loot improvement) due to all the skills which need to be trained, but catkin likely has better audience synergy, which is always important.
Catkin is "cool mystery box"
That's it, we know basically nothing else.
Doppelganger is "metal body shenanigans, non-biological forms, better interface with gear, also aesthetic reshaping"
 
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