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Given how close the vote is I probably should say why I want Turing over Korolev. Korolev, imo, heavily pushes us towards the rocket route and away from the spaceplane route. Now, I am aware spaceplanes are less efficient than rockets, but that could easily be outweighed by the People's Forum preferring spaceplanes. Spaceplane research helps with normal aircraft research, while I can't imagine there's much interest in ICBMs given the current geopolitical situation.
 
Adhoc vote count started by CyberEnby on Sep 16, 2022 at 10:53 PM, finished with 37 posts and 15 votes.
  • [X] PLAN: Two Stages Are Better Than One
    -[X] Construct an Engine Test Stand (10R per die, 0/50, +2 to propulsion projects)
    -[X][] Second Stages (Tech) [AERO, PHYS] (10R per die, 0/200, gain the ability to make 2-stage rockets)
    -[X][] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] (5R per dice, 0/100, improves scientific outcomes from Sounding Rockets)
    -[X][] Outcome Surveys (5R per dice, 0/120, get concrete goals to work towards)
    -[X] Shaking Trees (5R per dice, 0/100, variable reward)
    [X] [ASSIST] Alan M. Turing
    [X] Sergei Korolev
    [X] [ASSIST] Jack Parsons
    [X] Plan: Informative Progression
    -[X] Construct a Sounding Rocket - (10R, 0/40, costs 1 Build Capacity until complete)
    -- [X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you)
    -[X] Construct a Heavy Sounding Rocket launch site - (15R per die, 0/60, allows launch of the Heavy Sounding Rocket and theoretical derivatives up to 30 tons)
    -[X] Conduct Design Studies (Platform) (Heavy Sounding Rocket) [AERO] - (5R per die, 0/80, unlocks Heavy Sounding Rocket (and a naming vote because that's unwieldy))
    -[X] Second Stages (Tech) [AERO, PHYS] - (10R per die, 0/200, gain the ability to make 2-stage rockets)
    -[X] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] - (5R per dice, 0/100, improves scientific outcomes from Sounding Rockets)
    -[X] Research Program Outreach - (10R per dice, 10/120, gives +2 bonus to 1d4 research areas (including engineering))
    -[X] Outcome Surveys - (5R per dice, 0/120, get concrete goals to work towards)
    -[X] Council Liaison Office - (5R, establishes a Council Liaison Office, provides details on the state of Council funding priorities, budget, infrastructure status, etc.)
    -[X] Rocket Boxes (Phase I) - (5R per die, 0/200. Gives Rocket Boxes to every middle-school, high-school and university or equivalent in Africa. Encourages future African scientists and engineers - some of whom will even come work with the IEC.)
    [X] Plan - Building a solid foundation
    - [X] Construct a Sounding Rocket
    -- [X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you)
    -[X] Construct an Engine Test Stand - (1 Dice)
    - [X] Construct a Heavy Sounding Rocket launch site (1 Dice)
    - [X] Conduct Design Studies (Platform) (Heavy Sounding Rocket) [AERO] (2 Dice)
    - [X] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] (1 Dice)
    - [X] Research Program Outreach (1 Dice)
    - [X] Outcome Surveys (1 Dice)
    - [X] Council Liaison Office (1 Dice)
    - [X] Rocket Boxes (Phase I) (1 Dice)
    [X] Plan Rocket Rush
    [X] [ASSIST] Aretas Abdul
    [X] Plan Go Big or Go Home
    [X] [PLAN] Two Stages With Outcome Surveys
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Hunter531 said:
Given how close the vote is I probably should say why I want Turing over Korolev. Korolev, imo, heavily pushes us towards the rocket route and away from the spaceplane route. Now, I am aware spaceplanes are less efficient than rockets, but that could easily be outweighed by the People's Forum preferring spaceplanes. Spaceplane research helps with normal aircraft research, while I can't imagine there's much interest in ICBMs given the current geopolitical situation.
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Actually I'd argue that rockets and spaceplanes contribute about the same to civil aviation. Civil aviation isn't going to go faster than high subsonic, and the biggest improvements we can contribute would be lighter structures, better avionics, and better turbines, all of which rockets need as much an spaceplanes.
 
CyberEnby said:
Adhoc vote count started by CyberEnby on Sep 16, 2022 at 10:53 PM, finished with 37 posts and 15 votes.
  • [X] PLAN: Two Stages Are Better Than One
    -[X] Construct an Engine Test Stand (10R per die, 0/50, +2 to propulsion projects)
    -[X][] Second Stages (Tech) [AERO, PHYS] (10R per die, 0/200, gain the ability to make 2-stage rockets)
    -[X][] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] (5R per dice, 0/100, improves scientific outcomes from Sounding Rockets)
    -[X][] Outcome Surveys (5R per dice, 0/120, get concrete goals to work towards)
    -[X] Shaking Trees (5R per dice, 0/100, variable reward)
    [X] [ASSIST] Alan M. Turing
    [X] Sergei Korolev
    [X] [ASSIST] Jack Parsons
    [X] Plan: Informative Progression
    -[X] Construct a Sounding Rocket - (10R, 0/40, costs 1 Build Capacity until complete)
    -- [X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you)
    -[X] Construct a Heavy Sounding Rocket launch site - (15R per die, 0/60, allows launch of the Heavy Sounding Rocket and theoretical derivatives up to 30 tons)
    -[X] Conduct Design Studies (Platform) (Heavy Sounding Rocket) [AERO] - (5R per die, 0/80, unlocks Heavy Sounding Rocket (and a naming vote because that's unwieldy))
    -[X] Second Stages (Tech) [AERO, PHYS] - (10R per die, 0/200, gain the ability to make 2-stage rockets)
    -[X] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] - (5R per dice, 0/100, improves scientific outcomes from Sounding Rockets)
    -[X] Research Program Outreach - (10R per dice, 10/120, gives +2 bonus to 1d4 research areas (including engineering))
    -[X] Outcome Surveys - (5R per dice, 0/120, get concrete goals to work towards)
    -[X] Council Liaison Office - (5R, establishes a Council Liaison Office, provides details on the state of Council funding priorities, budget, infrastructure status, etc.)
    -[X] Rocket Boxes (Phase I) - (5R per die, 0/200. Gives Rocket Boxes to every middle-school, high-school and university or equivalent in Africa. Encourages future African scientists and engineers - some of whom will even come work with the IEC.)
    [X] Plan - Building a solid foundation
    - [X] Construct a Sounding Rocket
    -- [X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you)
    -[X] Construct an Engine Test Stand - (1 Dice)
    - [X] Construct a Heavy Sounding Rocket launch site (1 Dice)
    - [X] Conduct Design Studies (Platform) (Heavy Sounding Rocket) [AERO] (2 Dice)
    - [X] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] (1 Dice)
    - [X] Research Program Outreach (1 Dice)
    - [X] Outcome Surveys (1 Dice)
    - [X] Council Liaison Office (1 Dice)
    - [X] Rocket Boxes (Phase I) (1 Dice)
    [X] Plan Rocket Rush
    [X] [ASSIST] Aretas Abdul
    [X] Plan Go Big or Go Home
    [X] [PLAN] Two Stages With Outcome Surveys
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Actually I'd argue that rockets and spaceplanes contribute about the same to civil aviation. Civil aviation isn't going to go faster than high subsonic, and the biggest improvements we can contribute would be lighter structures, better avionics, and better turbines, all of which rockets need as much an spaceplanes.
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That may be true, although I suspect adapting spaceplane research might be at least slightly easier or more effective than rocket research. Anyways, I'm talking from a politics perspective. I'm pretty sure that there's a reason why the spaceplane hanger is mentioned as an easy sell to the People's Forum and the heavy rocket launchpad isn't. More PS means more resources to do more stuff. Of course, there's no way to know for sure until we get Outcome Surveys, which is one of the reasons why I lobbied so hard for it.
 
Please guys, Turing has the most room for growth out of all of them, computers are the future of the world and of spacecraft. If we want the most out of each launch we want computers for simulations. If we want the best rockets we can get we want computers for their precise design and construction, and if we want memes... well what's more memeable than ACTUAL MEMES, something which is impossible without computers.

Vote Science. Vote Rockets. Vote Memes. Vote Turing
 
We need rockets to actually launch rockets and Korolev gives us that rocket expertise. His requests are reasonable and don't lock us into having to complete a manned or unmanned mission in a specific time frame. He just wants rockets up in the air and some facilities in Ukraine. We're a space agency first and foremost, we need to build rockets to get into space.
 
Our goal as an agency is not to produce rockets. Our goal as an agency is not to produce space planes. Our goal as an agency is not to get to another planet. Our goal as an agency is to use knowledge gained from space travel to better the future of humankind. Rockets, planes, the moon, these are all means to an end. Korolev helps one of those means. Turing helps the end, and with it all of the means.
 
Objectively, this is likely the worst option. Both another Anglo, and not Turing.

But... I want to sacrifice goats to launch our spacecraft.

[X] [ASSIST] Jack Parsons
 
I'm fairly confident that Turing's talents would be better utilized in a dedicated program/organization for computer science rather than a space agency. Poaching him in the hopes that his advances in computer science will be known as our advances seems like pure self-interest (at the organizational level), rather than what would actually be most helpful to the world.
 
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maelstrom.seeker said:
I'm fairly confident that Turing's talents would be better utilized in a dedicated program/organization for computer science rather than a space agency. Poaching him in the hopes that his advances in computer science will be known as our advances seems like pure self-interest (at the organizational level), rather than what would actually be most helpful to the world.
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Having Turing develop avionics for the IEC would be a very effective way to advance computer science, though. What better way would there be for someone like Turing to flex their talents and develop practical computers than to do so under the engineering constraints required by a rocket? The computer would need to be precise, reliable, rugged, and as small as possible in terms of both size and weight - all things that would have obvious applications for computers on Earth.

That being said, I'm still voting for Parsons because he's fun and I want our rocket warlock, dammit!
 
maelstrom.seeker said:
I'm fairly confident that Turing's talents would be better utilized in a dedicated program/organization for computer science rather than a space agency. Poaching him in the hopes that his advances in computer science will be known as our advances seems like pure self-interest (at the organizational level), rather than what would actually be most helpful to the world.
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We're a space agency. Heck, we're the space agency. We're going to have way more resources and pull for research than anyone else on the planet. Yes, right now we're only on turn two. But five years from now? Ten? Between us and some hypothetical, non-existant computer research group, we're the bigger fish.

We both need better computing tech and have the ability to help advance that tech massively. I highly doubt that Turing will lack for work or opportunity in our agency.
 
12 hours left in the vote. Plan Two Stages Are Better Than One is handily winning, but the Assistant Director vote is very close: We have 14 votes for Korolev to 13 votes for Turing, and 10 votes for Parsons. With a mere one vote difference between the lead votes, and Parsons not far behind, any single person's vote could determine the outcome here. If you haven't voted yet, or are considering changing your vote, now's a good time to do so.
Adhoc vote count started by Derpmind on Sep 18, 2022 at 9:27 AM, finished with 69 posts and 36 votes.
  • [X] Sergei Korolev
    [X] PLAN: Two Stages Are Better Than One
    -[X] Construct an Engine Test Stand (10R per die, 0/50, +2 to propulsion projects)
    -[X] (2 Dice) Second Stages (Tech) [AERO, PHYS] (10R per die, 0/200, gain the ability to make 2-stage rockets)
    -[X] (2 Dice) Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] (5R per dice, 0/100, improves scientific outcomes from Sounding Rockets)
    -[X] (2 Dice) Outcome Surveys (5R per dice, 0/120, get concrete goals to work towards)
    -[X] Shaking Trees (5R per dice, 0/100, variable reward)
    [X] [ASSIST] Alan M. Turing
    [X] [ASSIST] Jack Parsons
    [X] Plan: Informative Progression
    -[X] Construct a Sounding Rocket - (10R, 0/40, costs 1 Build Capacity until complete)
    -- [X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you)
    -[X] Construct a Heavy Sounding Rocket launch site - (15R per die, 0/60, allows launch of the Heavy Sounding Rocket and theoretical derivatives up to 30 tons)
    -[X] Conduct Design Studies (Platform) (Heavy Sounding Rocket) [AERO] - (5R per die, 0/80, unlocks Heavy Sounding Rocket (and a naming vote because that's unwieldy))
    -[X] Second Stages (Tech) [AERO, PHYS] - (10R per die, 0/200, gain the ability to make 2-stage rockets)
    -[X] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] - (5R per dice, 0/100, improves scientific outcomes from Sounding Rockets)
    -[X] Research Program Outreach - (10R per dice, 10/120, gives +2 bonus to 1d4 research areas (including engineering))
    -[X] Outcome Surveys - (5R per dice, 0/120, get concrete goals to work towards)
    -[X] Council Liaison Office - (5R, establishes a Council Liaison Office, provides details on the state of Council funding priorities, budget, infrastructure status, etc.)
    -[X] Rocket Boxes (Phase I) - (5R per die, 0/200. Gives Rocket Boxes to every middle-school, high-school and university or equivalent in Africa. Encourages future African scientists and engineers - some of whom will even come work with the IEC.)
    [X] [ASSIST] Yao Xia
    [X] Plan Spaceplanes
    -[X] Construct a Sounding Rocket - (10R, 0/40, costs 1 Build Capacity until complete)
    --[X] And launch it
    -[X] Construct a Hangar (10R per die, 0/100, allows constructing spaceplane prototypes)
    -[X] Conduct Design Studies (Platform) (Spaceplane Development) [AERO] (5R per die, 0/100, unlocks Prototype Spaceplane) (2 dice)
    -[X] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] - (5R per dice, 0/100, improves scientific outcomes from Sounding Rockets)
    -[X] Research Program Outreach - (10R per dice, 10/120, gives +2 bonus to 1d4 research areas (including engineering))
    -[X] Outcome Surveys (5R per dice, 0/120, get concrete goals to work towards) (2 dice)
    -[X] Shaking Trees (5R per dice, 0/100, variable reward)
    -[X] Rocket Boxes (Phase I) - (5R per die, 0/200. Gives Rocket Boxes to every middle-school, high-school and university or equivalent in Africa. Encourages future African scientists and engineers - some of whom will even come work with the IEC.)
    [X] PLAN: Two Stages Are Better Than One
    [X] [ASSIST] Aretas Abdul
    [X] Plan - Building a solid foundation
    - [X] Construct a Sounding Rocket
    -- [X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you)
    -[X] Construct an Engine Test Stand - (1 Dice)
    - [X] Construct a Heavy Sounding Rocket launch site (1 Dice)
    - [X] Conduct Design Studies (Platform) (Heavy Sounding Rocket) [AERO] (2 Dice)
    - [X] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] (1 Dice)
    - [X] Research Program Outreach (1 Dice)
    - [X] Outcome Surveys (1 Dice)
    - [X] Council Liaison Office (1 Dice)
    - [X] Rocket Boxes (Phase I) (1 Dice)
    [X] Plan Rocket Rush
    -[X] Construct a Sounding Rocket - 1 die(10R)
    --[X] And launch it
    -[X] Construct an Engine Test Stand - 1 die(10R)
    -[X] Second Stages (Tech) [AERO, PHYS] - 1 die (10R)
    -[X] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] - 2 dice(10R)
    -[X] Council Liaison Office - 1 die(5R)
    -[X] Outcome Surveys - 2 dice(10R)
    -[X]Rocket Reels - 1 dice (5R)
    [X] Plan Go Big or Go Home
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TheArcanist said:
Having Turing develop avionics for the IEC would be a very effective way to advance computer science, though. What better way would there be for someone like Turing to flex their talents and develop practical computers than to do so under the engineering constraints required by a rocket? The computer would need to be precise, reliable, rugged, and as small as possible in terms of both size and weight - all things that would have obvious applications for computers on Earth.

That being said, I'm still voting for Parsons because he's fun and I want our rocket warlock, dammit!
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On the contrary.

Avionics, especially in this era and especially for spacecraft tend to be hyperspecialized,unique devices. This would continue for some time, btw. The Apollo flight computer had a set of hardcoded instructions which were literally woven into it's memory by hand. High storage density, utterly impractical on the ground.

The computer revolution is in the opposite direction, with adaptable, generic and mass producible devices. First mainframes far too large to ever launch, and only then smaller devices.
 
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10ebbor10 said:
On the contrary.

Avionics, especially in this era and especially for spacecraft tend to be hyperspecialized,unique devices. This would continue for some time, btw. The Apollo flight computer had a set of hardcoded instructions which were literally woven into it's memory by hand. High storage density, utterly impractical on the ground.

The computer revolution is in the opposite direction, with adaptable, generic and mass producible devices. First mainframes far too large to ever launch, and only then smaller devices.
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Such specialized devices are the first step towards a generalized computer. The principles involved in making a computer small enough to fit inside a rocket are useful for every kind of computer, not just hyperspecialized avionics.

Like, we could probably kick-start the development of silicon transistors in regular computer use for that exact reason. The IEC wouldn't have much reason to hide the technology it uses, after all, because there's no Cold War to fight.
 
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  • Voting
    • Scheduled vote count started by Shadows on Sep 16, 2022 at 3:31 PM, finished with 57 posts and 38 votes.
    • [X] Sergei Korolev
      [X] PLAN: Two Stages Are Better Than One
      -[X] Construct an Engine Test Stand (10R per die, 0/50, +2 to propulsion projects)
      -[X] (2 Dice) Second Stages (Tech) [AERO, PHYS] (10R per die, 0/200, gain the ability to make 2-stage rockets)
      -[X] (2 Dice) Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] (5R per dice, 0/100, improves scientific outcomes from Sounding Rockets)
      -[X] (2 Dice) Outcome Surveys (5R per dice, 0/120, get concrete goals to work towards)
      -[X] Shaking Trees (5R per dice, 0/100, variable reward)
      [X] [ASSIST] Alan M. Turing
      [X] [ASSIST] Jack Parsons
      [X] Plan: Informative Progression
      -[X] Construct a Sounding Rocket - (10R, 0/40, costs 1 Build Capacity until complete)
      --[X] And launch it (free action for Sounding Rockets) (gains Scientific Data, launch experience, results to show the people funding you)
      -[X] Construct a Heavy Sounding Rocket launch site - (15R per die, 0/60, allows launch of the Heavy Sounding Rocket and theoretical derivatives up to 30 tons)
      -[X] Conduct Design Studies (Platform) (Heavy Sounding Rocket) [AERO] - (5R per die, 0/80, unlocks Heavy Sounding Rocket (and a naming vote because that's unwieldy))
      -[X] Second Stages (Tech) [AERO, PHYS] - (10R per die, 0/200, gain the ability to make 2-stage rockets)
      -[X] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] - (5R per dice, 0/100, improves scientific outcomes from Sounding Rockets)
      -[X] Research Program Outreach - (10R per dice, 10/120, gives +2 bonus to 1d4 research areas (including engineering))
      -[X] Outcome Surveys - (5R per dice, 0/120, get concrete goals to work towards)
      -[X] Council Liaison Office - (5R, establishes a Council Liaison Office, provides details on the state of Council funding priorities, budget, infrastructure status, etc.)
      -[X] Rocket Boxes (Phase I) - (5R per die, 0/200. Gives Rocket Boxes to every middle-school, high-school and university or equivalent in Africa. Encourages future African scientists and engineers - some of whom will even come work with the IEC.)
      [X] [ASSIST] Yao Xia
      [X] Plan Spaceplanes
      -[X] Construct a Sounding Rocket - (10R, 0/40, costs 1 Build Capacity until complete)
      --[X] And launch it
      -[X] Construct a Hangar (10R per die, 0/100, allows constructing spaceplane prototypes)
      -[X] Conduct Design Studies (Platform) (Spaceplane Development) [AERO] (5R per die, 0/100, unlocks Prototype Spaceplane) (2 dice)
      -[X] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] - (5R per dice, 0/100, improves scientific outcomes from Sounding Rockets)
      -[X] Research Program Outreach - (10R per dice, 10/120, gives +2 bonus to 1d4 research areas (including engineering))
      -[X] Outcome Surveys (5R per dice, 0/120, get concrete goals to work towards) (2 dice)
      -[X] Shaking Trees (5R per dice, 0/100, variable reward)
      -[X] Rocket Boxes (Phase I) - (5R per die, 0/200. Gives Rocket Boxes to every middle-school, high-school and university or equivalent in Africa. Encourages future African scientists and engineers - some of whom will even come work with the IEC.)
      [X] PLAN: Two Stages Are Better Than One
      [X] [ASSIST] Aretas Abdul
      [X] Plan Rocket Rush
      -[X] Construct a Sounding Rocket - 1 die(10R)
      --[X] And launch it
      -[X] Construct an Engine Test Stand - 1 die(10R)
      -[X] Second Stages (Tech) [AERO, PHYS] - 1 die (10R)
      -[X] Improved Instrumentation Development (Tech) [AVIONICS] - 2 dice(10R)
      -[X] Council Liaison Office - 1 die(5R)
      -[X] Outcome Surveys - 2 dice(10R)
      -[X]Rocket Reels - 1 dice (5R)
      [X] Plan Go Big or Go Home
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    Korolev wins!

    Dice bot, roll out!
    Shadows threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Engine Test Stand Total: 79
    79 79
    Shadows threw 2 100-faced dice. Reason: Second Stages Total: 174
    79 79 95 95
    Shadows threw 2 100-faced dice. Reason: Improved Instrumentation Total: 131
    40 40 91 91
    Shadows threw 2 100-faced dice. Reason: Outcome Surveys Total: 43
    14 14 29 29
    Shadows threw 2 100-faced dice. Reason: Shaking Trees Total: 47
    5 5 42 42
    Shadows threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Sounding Rocket Build Total: 36
    36 36
    Shadows threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Sounding Rocket Launch Total: 12
    12 12
    Shadows threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Shaking Trees Reroll Total: 9
    9 9
    Shadows threw 1 100-faced dice. Reason: Rocket Boxes Total: 60
    60 60
     
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    • Korolev the winner. Which means +5 to all Engineering and Science rolls this turn.

    Sounding Rocket 36+3 = 39/40 Launch 12+3?
    Engine Test Stand 79/50
    Second Stages 79+95+10+2 = 186/200
    Improved Instrumentation 40+91+10+10+2 = 153/100
    Outcome Surveys 14+29+20 = 63/120
    Shaking Trees 5 9+10 = 19/100

    Rocket probably exploded. But at least we made sure no one would be hurt.
    Politic rolls not so good this turn. Do we get a reroll?

    EDIT: Looking over the math we actually barely failed at building the sounding rocket. So did it still launch?
     
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    trooperist said:
    Korolev the winner. Which means +5 to all Engineering and Science rolls this turn.

    Sounding Rocket 36+3 = 39/40 Launch 12+3?
    Engine Test Stand 79/50
    Second Stages 79+95+10+2 = 186/200
    Improved Instrumentation 40+91+10+10+2 = 153/100
    Outcome Surveys 14+29+20 = 63/120
    Shaking Trees 5+10 = 15/100

    Rocket probably exploded. But at least we made sure no one would be hurt.
    Politic rolls not so good this turn. Do we get a reroll?

    EDIT: Looking over the math we actually barely failed at building the sounding rocket. So did it still launch?
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    You barely failed but I wasn't about to make you blow a dice on a difference of 1, so I gave it to you.

    Turns out maybe I shouldn't have. :V

    I'm thinking I'll reroll the Shaking Trees result, as it was the worst; you do have that as Penelope's perk.

    Edit: Reroll is 42.
     
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    Shadows said:
    You barely failed but I wasn't about to make you blow a dice on a difference of 1, so I gave it to you.

    Turns out maybe I shouldn't have. :V

    I'm thinking I'll reroll the Shaking Trees result, as it was the worst; you do have that as Penelope's perk.
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    Well at least our scientists get to learn about their rockets exploding.:V
    Sometimes failure can teach more than success.

    EDIT: Reroll not much better lol.
     
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