Green Flame Rising (Exalted vs Dresden Files)

Yes, but Howl of the Devil-Tiger is mostly useless in this setting.
We already have our own key-skills, caste-mark, urge and no torment at all.
The Howl would probably look a lot different in the modern era. Things get adjusted; we'll see how things pan out if we do actually ever get to see what E6+ looks like.

I really have no general preference beyond clearly establishing that Exaltation allows Molly to redefine herself into more or less anything.
 
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  • [X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
    -[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
    [X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
    [X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
    -[X] Make sure to explain what you can do, so you can cooperate better.
    [X] Emphasize all the skills you would bring to an investigation
    -[X] Leaving aside the capacity for violence, which might come in handy when we actually find any Nazis, I've recently found a trick that will allow me to access almost any digitally-stored information. Since you can't even start a computer without burning it out, that seems complimentary. Also I'd like to gain some insight into investigative processes, might be useful in my future.
    -[X] Also offer the sniper's bullet. Either he can track down the owner, or we can use the Crown to get the shooter's name or current location, whatever is more useful in context.
 
If we get a demon-car scene with dresden, i request sympathy for the devil be playing, like the ending of interview with the vampire.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by DragonParadox on Aug 19, 2022 at 3:30 AM, finished with 129 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
    -[X]Stunt: Slurping at the straw of your large Coke, you roll your eyes at Harry. "Dude, like it or not I'm already involved. Im sure the gentleperson with the rifle remembers my face as well as the Winter half of Faerie. Id prefer to cooperate so we dont waste effort, but," one finger taps your temple suggestively "I am going to be looking anyway. With or without you. Wouldnt you be happier knowing where I am?" Smiling winningly at him, you steal one of his fries and pop it into your mouth, then make a face. "Y'know Wendy's has better fries than BK right?"
    [X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
    [X] Point out that you are going to be involved in this anyway, he just gets to decide if it's where he can see you or not
    -[X] Make sure to explain what you can do, so you can cooperate better.
    [X] Emphasize all the skills you would bring to an investigation
    -[X] Leaving aside the capacity for violence, which might come in handy when we actually find any Nazis, I've recently found a trick that will allow me to access almost any digitally-stored information. Since you can't even start a computer without burning it out, that seems complimentary. Also I'd like to gain some insight into investigative processes, might be useful in my future.
    -[X] Also offer the sniper's bullet. Either he can track down the owner, or we can use the Crown to get the shooter's name or current location, whatever is more useful in context.
 
Arc 2 Post 9: Making Connections
Making Connections

21st of July 2006 A.D.

"Hello, who is this?" It takes you a moment to realize that Harry does not get to see the number calling him on his antique of a phone, nevermind a saved name.

"Molly, it's Molly," you reply, then before he can get another word in edgewise you continue. "I wanted to ask, did you get anything more on history's worst sore losers?" Maybe it's paranoid, but all the thinking you did on spying on other people's phones makes you not inclined to say any names over the phone. "I have some new powers that can help track them and if you do find them I figure you could use some backup."

"Don't worry about that," you can hear the mounting weariness in his voice. "I'll handle it and keep you informed if there's anything you can help with. An investigation's kind of like quicksand that way, if you go too fast or step too heavy you will sink right in you're a little obvious."

"I don't have to be obvious," you roll your eyes even though he can't see you.

"You're always obvious to those with the eyes to see," Harry replies quickly. "Remember when you said that magic unraveled in your hands if you tried to cast it, well that is not just your magic. I can feel the way you pull at the world and so can anyone else with a lick of sensitivity. Given we who are dealing with here I think it's fair to say they have at least two licks between them."

That is... actually a fair point, you admit reluctantly. You might be putting him in danger by your very obvious green glowing presence. If you thought that Harry Dresden was the sort of person to actually take things slow and cautious you might have even agreed with him, little though you like it. But as a matter of fact you do know a bit about how Harry Dresden investigates, you hadn't even had to listen at doors for those bits. Mom was more than loud enough. He is going to need someone who can parry bullets before this is done you're sure.

Lost 1 Essence

You take a sip of your Coke thinking of how to deal with it. "Like it or not I'm already involved, the guy with a love of rooftop views isn't going to forget me, no more than the Winter half of faerie. I'd like to cooperate so we don't double up on effort, but I'm going to be... looking anyway. Wouldn't you rather be there to watch me doing it?" Is flirty blackmail a good idea? It seems to work in the movies at least.

There is a really long pause in which you would like to think he is thinking of the flirting part, but it is probably just how to get out of the blackmail.

"And what would Charity think of this?" he finally asks.

"You would have to ask mom," you reply airily. "I always a did like the city at night you know, it has an air of mystery about it."

"Alright, come by my place and we'll talk," he sighs.

A part of you wants to echo 'and what would mom think of that' just to get back at him for pulling that card on you, but it's not worth it just be be petty.

***​

Mouse at least is unambiguously happy to see you. Sadly him jumping off the couch does send Harry's improbably sized cat, though not as improbable as his dog, tumbling which earns you a hiss of feline displeasure as Mister, you think his name is saunters off.

"So..." you start taking out your phone, "What have you got so far? Names addresses, I can do a web search on them."

"Don't take that out in here, " Harry says alarmed.

"Oh it's fine," you wave him off with what you hope is just the right amount of unconcern. "I bound a..." You are about to say 'helper kami' or something before you realize that even if his wizardly lore doesn't cover cyber-devils the Shadow of the Fallen in his head almost certainly knows enough to recognize it. "I bound a cyber-demon of the Wicked City into it, a sort of least spirit of alienation and anonymity, gave her a name and a place to stay that wasn't Hell. Say Hello Clippy."

"Hello Clippy," she replies in what is probably a joke, her chosen avatar flickering in the screen. "It is an honor to meet you Harry Blackstone Copperfield Dresden, you have brushed but lightly against the threads of data, I look forward to a fruitful collaboration between yourself and my mistress ."

Harry... does not take it well, eyes widening with alarm and his hand reaching for one of his foci before he stops himself. "Molly I can't believe I have to tell you this but demons aren't something you should be messing with.'

Lost 1 Essence

"This one is because that's how my power works," you reply. Seeing that he is about to interrupt you raise a hand. "Just let me finish OK? There has to be a reason my power draws in magic so strongly you can feel me from across the parking lot and it's not to make extra hot flames when I pull out my sword. Much like the Sith it does deal in absolutes. Remember when Mr. McCoy tested my mind and he said he had about as much of a chance of getting in while the shield was active as spoon assisted hard rock mining? Well apply that to assuring the loyalty in letter and in spirit of... ah sorry Clippy... very minor and weak demons."

"Query? What do you regret?" your assistant asks.

"That you might feel bad over me calling you weak," you explain carefully, gotta remember demon logic.

"My pride is difficult to damage, even so facts cannot do so at all," she assures you.

All through this Harry is looking between the two of you like he's waiting for someone to pop out of a corner of the apartment and announce he is on a hidden camera show. It is a struggle not to giggle, but you manage it.

Finally he manages to get out: "How did you do it?"

"I willed it so, that's actually one of the things I wanted to talk to you about. I can put more of them in security cameras to help stake out targets, or cars, those are valid too. We could know what they are talking about in the car and around it, not to mention if we get in car chase I can just tell the car to stop, it's line of sight."

"How many of these things can you summon from the Bad Town?" he asks looking at you really intensely.

Enough so that your laugh is as much nervous as proud, though at least you do not blush. "I don't think there is an upper number," you think about it a little more, the occult question going a ways to calming you down. "Or they might be a finite number, but it is something really large, like equal to the number of atoms in the universe so for all practical purposes infinity."

"Oh," he sinks back into the couch looking a little stunned. So it had been a 'you might be a civilization ending threat' intensity and not 'you are so pretty today Molly' intensity. Darn.

"I'm planning to be responsible with it," you say quickly. "I'm not going to go around ordering ATMs to spit out money or anything." Though you had admittedly thought about it. That was just being through when assessing your new powers. Speaking of new powers...

"Can I keep a bottle of Clorox at your place?"

He takes the description of healing in poison a lot better than he had Clippy, though that might be just because he is still in a bit of shock over it. You're sure he will come around eventually, but you do not make the offer of a demon phone yet.

"Alright, I'll buy some of that stuff..."

What the... You cut him off. "Harry, I have money for a bottle of cleaning supplies, I wasn't asking you to buy it for me, just if I could stash it with you." The ember of annoyance from when he had mentioned calling mom gets a little brighter. You are seventeen not seven, a legal adult in three months.

"Perhaps," Usum suggests softly at the back of your mind, "He treats you such not because your campaign of seduction has failed, but because it is working a bit too well and guilt drives him to overcompensate."

That is a very 'demonic tempter' take on things, but on the balance you do feel a little reassured. Still you do not want to think on it anymore. "Circling back what can I help you with?"

That afternoon you were...

[] In Harry's car outside a quiet suburban carwash you cannot believe belongs to Marcone waiting to speak to the man himself about where he had gotten those bones from

[] In a small rural county so different from busy Chicago you could not believe it was only two and a half hours drive following up on a tip Harry got from some Wyldfae about a man who might know something about rage spirits and what it takes to bind them

[] Still in his apartment, trying to make what you can of the bullet you had recovered from the gunman
-[] Write in question for Crown use


OOC: I was tempted to make the last one post-question asking but since you guys only get only one for the bullet I did not want to assume, you might have a better idea what to ask than I did.
 
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I'm honestly surprised how surprised harry is he saw that our thing slayed gods and a a fair few of them and was made for that purpose. Not that its gods its primordials he doesn't have context for that though. He also saw it was very very old right? Like he knows we're packing something that can reliably kill godlike beings and is meant for ruling right dp?
 
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I'm honestly surprised how surprised harry is he saw that our thing slayed gods and a a fair few of them and was made for that purpose. Not that its gods its primordials he doesn't have context for that though. He also saw it was very very old right? Like he knows we're packing something that can reliably kill godlike beings and is meant for ruling right dp?

He got the god-killing, but not the rulership, that was Michael who made the connection. Also 'safe infinite demons' pushes a lot of his buttons. Without that soul gaze you would not have gotten a roll at all.
 
[X] In a small rural county so different from busy Chicago you could not believe it was only two and a half hours drive following up on a tip Harry got from some Wyldfae about a man who might know something about rage spirits and what it takes to bind them
 
He got the god-killing, but not the rulership, that was Michael who made the connection. Also 'safe infinite demons' pushes a lot of his buttons. Without that soul gaze you would not have gotten a roll at all.
shouldn't we probably mention to harry we now probably know more about the underlying of magic than he does though? At least the older stuff.
 
[X] In a small rural county so different from busy Chicago you could not believe it was only two and a half hours drive following up on a tip Harry got from some Wyldfae about a man who might know something about rage spirits and what it takes to bind them
wouldn't asking a question now of the bullet be good since we can track more ground with that and we can probably regenerate the stuff before leaving? instead of having to use it while searching.
 
You could try to make that case to the professional wizard sure. It would not be an easy sell.
I mean its true isn't it? With occult 5 we can probably explain some deep lore to him right? not that it'd be an easy sell we have what is basically an intellectus and harry himself says thats the providence of very powerful and knowledgeable supernatural creatures. If we have an intellectus doesn't that mean we might know a lot?
 
I mean its true isn't it? With occult 5 we can probably explain some deep lore to him right? not that it'd be an easy sell we have what is basically an intellectus and harry himself says thats the providence of very powerful and knowledgeable supernatural creatures. If we have an intellectus doesn't that mean we might know a lot?

This is post-Proven Guilty, Molly heard the term intelectus from Lash and then did not use it in conversation with Harry for fear it would give away who she had been talking to. She has no idea what Harry knows on the subject and in any case just because he knows your power is... well powerful in asking single question does not have much to do with what you know about magic in general.
 
I have the Charms all proof-read and formatted. I would have done it yesterday, but I am feeling sick. I'm not going to post them right now since the newest update just dropped and that needs discussed first. While I think we should ask a question, I do not know what the best one would be.
 
I assume that if it's complicated enough for a Wizard's techbane to mess with it then it can be possessed, and theoretically the cyberdemon controlling it wouldn't be effected by the techbane due to being a spirit, meaning that Molly can make bane-proof tech.


The real question isn't if cyber devils can stop tech bane related effects, it's if they know about that property of mortal magic.

Because if they do, they could get tempted to mess with a population that has no real idea how whatever tech they're in is supposed to work and already expects everything to go wrong.
— Molly as the White Council's Tech Support—
Molly: " What can I help you with today?"
Wizard1: " this new phone is very convenient, but the sound effects are very annoying. It quacks like a duck every time I press a button. Do you know how to turn it off?"


And many similar complaints. The best argument against giving cyber devils to the wizards isn't how hard it'd be to get them to trust us, it's that we'd basically become tech support for the global grandparent's association.
 
I mean its true isn't it? With occult 5 we can probably explain some deep lore to him right? not that it'd be an easy sell we have what is basically an intellectus and harry himself says thats the providence of very powerful and knowledgeable supernatural creatures. If we have an intellectus doesn't that mean we might know a lot?
Key point is that all our knowledge comes from a single source, our Exaltation/Usum, and is thus inherently less reliable than knowledge gained over long study and personal experience.

We know OOC that our knowledge is true, but it will take years to really confirm all of that IC.
 
Key point is that all our knowledge comes from a single source, our Exaltation/Usum, and is thus inherently less reliable than knowledge gained over long study and personal experience.

We know OOC that our knowledge is true, but it will take years to really confirm all of that IC.
in fairness a lot of it is immediately verifiable. also gnerally if harry knew we had an intellectus I think its fair for him to assume we'd often know more things than he does as thats basically a normal thing for beings with said knowledge.
 
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The idea of certain positions coming with absurd amounts of information and knowledge isn't an ocp in dresden files. So once harry knows more about this the assumption we have an absurd amount of knowledge in our head isn't that hard to make. Offhand how much knowledge is occult 5 I assume its an archive of enough knowledge to be comparable to a library right?
 
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