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The Dawi in Arda (Hiatus)

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[x]Plan: War!

Also in regards to the latest lore i say go with @ACON 's suggestion and go full warpfuckery. Make it so a few of the dwarves from those clans from the golden age got flung through the warp like we did. Neatly sidestep all of the lore complications and allows more flexibility in the quest.
 
Going to point out that this is not the time to go to war. We just woke up whatever undead are in that fortress, the Great Eagles are circling, there's whatever is up with the fire to the East and there's the fact that Goblin Town is a very hard target.

I would much prefer we allow the Goblins to smash their heads against our defenses some more before we set out to clear them out.

This could also be a trap, we walk in and they block our exits at which point we're shafted.
 
Eagles aren't really a threat too the hold, at worst they are a threat to our goats but if they did attack the clans can withdraw to the hold and be perfectly safe. The fire to the east is a curiosity but unless it comes closer isn't an issue. The undead to the west might be a problem but if so it is best to take care of the goblins before they can build up and attack us.

There will always be reasons to put off the attack but ultimately we argued people out of becoming slayers by promising them that we would settle the grudge as a hold, we cannot go back on that and simply sit passively and allow even more grudges to build up.

I'd hope our throng wont just stroll in with nary a care for their line of retreat too. They "know" these are hargrobi who rely on such tactics and if they don't take care to ensure their route back to the hold is secure they deserve whatever happens to them.
 
[x]Plan: War!
While, it warms my heart, for a thrashing on Angmar, something tells me, from the amount of orcs, trolls, the retreating of the goblins deep beneath the earth, and the great fire in possibly Esgaroth, demands far greater attention. Especially, if I think we are in the Hobbit, so yeah, maybe it will be the battle of 5 and a half armies :V
 
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we also could be at the Battle of Azanulbizar where the dwarfs tryed to take back there hold. if so most the orks armies will be outside the hold
 
rokafella said:
[x]Plan: War!
While, it warms my heart, for a thrashing on Angmar, something tells me, from the amount of orcs, trolls, the retreating of the goblins deep beneath the earth, and the great fire in possibly Esgaroth, demands far greater attention. Especially, if I think we are in the Hobbit, so yeah, maybe it will be the battle of 5 and a half armies :V
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I hope to god, that it is the event where Smaug takes over Erebor and not the battle of 5. If it is the first we will have time before canon starts and expand ourselves to have enough power to affect things. If it is the latter, we will only have some pitiful decades before shit hits the fan with the beginning of lotr and we will not be ready...
 
ACON said:
I hope to god, that it is the event where Smaug takes over Erebor and not the battle of 5. If it is the first we will have time before canon starts and expand ourselves to have enough power to affect things. If it is the latter, we will only have some pitiful decades before shit hits the fan with the beginning of lotr and we will not be ready...
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Yeah, but we honestly don't have a choice until we go out and look for ourselves, for better or for worse. And either way, we will stand tall and proud, be it time or stature, and let no one doubt that of the Sons of the Moutain!
 
Warkeymon said:
o his frustration, where the Hargrobi have always swarmed out from their tunnels for a lack of space before, the Hargrobi cannot be sighted beyond their tunnels. The Deadeye takes to sniffing at a few entries to the mountain but though the stench of Grobi is almost overwhelming he senses none in the nearest passages.
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Almost like Tolkien orcs take a much longer period of time to replenish losses than Warhammer Orcs.

These ones have to actually be born and raised to term instead of just being Spores that gestate into full grown adults in a short period of time.

I guess this expedition will showcase just that to the Dawi. When they run into pregnant goblin females in the depths of Goblin Town.
 
Wait they do, im not familiar with tolkien lore beyond the movies and some games but i thought they were created, like in the two towers?
 
Valerian said:
Almost like Tolkien orcs take a much longer period of time to replenish losses than Warhammer Orcs.

These ones have to actually be born and raised to term instead of just being Spores that gestate into full grown adults in a short period of time.

I guess this expedition will showcase just that to the Dawi. When they run into pregnant goblin females in the depths of Goblin Town.
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That will both be an unpleasant sight/experience, and probably get the moderators swarming all over the quest, to be honest.
 
Chipsy_21 said:
Wait they do, im not familiar with tolkien lore beyond the movies and some games but i thought they were created, like in the two towers?
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Yes, they do actually, the reason why the Uruk-hai is different, is because they are half man-half orc hybrids used by Saruman as a slave/fighting force in his tower of Orthanc.
 
rokafella said:
That will both be an unpleasant sight/experience, and probably get the moderators swarming all over the quest, to be honest.
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Its lore friendly though. Dawi have eternal war grudges against Orcs to exterminate the race in its entirety. Same with Skaven and Chaos.

They also put entire cities of elves to the axe during the War of Vengeance: men, women, children, babes. It made no difference.
 
I don't mean that, I mean if the Gm talks about it, even with most of the site being used to, or alternatively, are familiar, with Tolkien, or Warhammer lore on Orks and the like. It would still make many of the moderators if @WakeryMon does talk about, you know the brutal slaughtering of orcs, female orcs, and children. It could get him in trouble and I don't want that. The thing itself I'm fine with the orcs being driven out, (not that I'm an exterminator!) it just fills me with unnecessary worry is all.
 
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rokafella said:
I don't mean that, I mean if the Gm talks about it, even with most of the site being used to, or alternatively, are familiar, with Tolkien, or Warhammer lore on Orks and the like. It would still make many of the moderators if WakeryMon does talk about, you know the brutal slaughtering of orcs, female orcs, and children. It could get him in trouble and I don't want that. The thing itself I'm fine with the orcs being driven out, (not that I'm an exterminator!) it just fills me with unnecessary worry is all.
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Easy fix, make goblins and lesser orcs throw up from a "gall sack" and have them spew the kids on some form of organic waste and such. Would explain why they are deformed and such and come in large numbers.

As for the orc pits, evil magic cloning orcs for war as cannon fodder. True orcs maybe could breed but to get numbers game they need those pits so maybe they just bleed into a pit and new orcs cone out combat ready.
 
rokafella said:
That works for me, so long as @Warkeymon doesn't get too distributive.
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Makes sense in lore as well as melkor could never "truly" create things, twist them, make pale copies at best using his maiar, or simply use things that should never be as his tools.

This also solves the orc=elf dilemma, as orcs in lore could since they are "clones" or copies not have "true" souls…besides the Uruk-hai and Mordor uruks…and maybe the "first" orc generations before the deformities and twisted nature of melkor made them akin to pale shadows of a truly loving being.

Plus it makes sense on why the orcs need a dark lord in charge, as it gives them focus and direction unless they end up getting themselves killed off or simply disappear as they can't easily replace their numbers.
 
As said before, I'm completely fine with that. I just don't want @Warkeymon, getting to descriptive about things, or places like it, because SV is still supposed to be a safe place (for the most part), so I just really don't want him to get in trouble for something that just comes into his writing is all.
 
[x]Plan: War!

rokafella said:
As said before, I'm completely fine with that. I just don't want @Warkeymon, getting to descriptive about things, or places like it, because SV is still supposed to be a safe place (for the most part), so I just really don't want him to get in trouble for something that just comes into his writing is all.
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I mean it just needs to be tasteful and not at all a mind numbing orgasmic violence. Though that's more convention since describing genocide is allowed but belittling it is not.
 
Found a decent map of our local area.
For reference, the distance between Eagles Eryie and Carrock is about 35 miles. We should be between the "M" in mountains and the Coldfells, maybe a bit further north.
 
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