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The Path Unending (A Cultivation Quest)

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ReaderOfFate said:
I think that's a fair point. This by its own would disqualify it from being possible to craft if it wasn't for one factor: Chui Dao. I'll spare you the math, but giving +5 successes per roll is equivalent to artificially raising the skill in question by +10. Thanks to our Hammery Boi, it's doable.

(I always was curious about making a Charm apparently skyrocketing your skill if you started with a low skill, tbh. This is one way to find out how that'd work, I suppose.)
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OH HELL NO

You would honestly use Chui Dao and add RNG into this? A charm that is going to reshap Kong Zhi's Body?!

I don't want his 1d6 steel corruption anywhere near ALT.

God, I really hope that's not behind the votes for Forge, that we can cheap out on skill by cheating with Chui Dao 😬

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Ease of crafting due to the Mechanics should not, I repeat, SHOULD NOT, be the Deciding factor of this Vote!
 
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Knight-Radiant said:
OH HELL NO

You would honestly use Chui Dao and add RNG into this? A charm that is going to reshap Kong Zhi's Body?!

I don't want his 1d6 steel corruption anywhere near ALT.

God, I really hope that's not behind the votes for Forge, that we can cheap out on skill by cheating with Chui Dao 😬
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KR, we already know as a fact that if the Steel is given an actual purpose by a Steel material in the Charm, the added anam from Chui Dao becomes much less of a problem than if it was running around undirected. I don't think the issue is as bad as you think it is.

Frankly, given that Ves put that Charm as one of the seven approved options, I'd take a gander and say that Ves would expect us to use Chui Dao here. You honestly think he approved that expecting us to tutor Metalworking twice and delay this longer?
 
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Even if we use the anvil on anything that's not Jai's axe there might be steel materials at the ruin of the Lost Armory.
 
ReaderOfFate said:
KR, we already know as a fact that if the Steel is given an actual purpose by a Steel material in the Charm, the added anam from Chui Dao becomes much less of a problem than if it was running around undirected. I don't think the issue is as bad as you think it is.

Frankly, given that Ves put that Charm as one of the seven approved options, I'd take a gander and say that Ves would expect us to use Chui Dao here. You honestly think he approved that expecting us to tutor Metalworking twice and delay this longer?
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We'll be delaying it crafting a charm that we can only start using after integrating 3 separate 5+ phase techniques. At least with the Heart we get our limbs back right away.

And we'd get extra bonuses integrating our homework techs.

Also, if we're talking about setting a foundation. You mentioned it was likely Siani was gonna have us carve channels based on our integrated techs. It makes sense to have the integrations be as good as we can have them if that's the case. Make the ground as fertile as possible and the channels dug into it will be all the more efficient.
 
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ReaderOfFate said:
KR, we already know as a fact that if the Steel is given an actual purpose by a Steel material in the Charm, the added anam from Chui Dao becomes much less of a problem than if it was running around undirected. I don't think the issue is as bad as you think it is.

Frankly, given that Ves put that Charm as one of the seven approved options, I'd take a gander and say that Ves would expect us to use Chui Dao here. You honestly think he approved that expecting us to tutor Metalworking twice and delay this longer?
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One thing I'd like to say is that I really, really hope people don't vote for it for this reason. This is going to be a charm that reshapes Kong Zhi's life. Vote for the design you think is best, not the one you think we can do the fastest.
 
bookofportals said:
One thing I'd like to say is that I really, really hope people don't vote for it for this reason. This is going to be a charm that reshapes Kong Zhi's life. Vote for the design you think is best, not the one you think we can do the fastest.
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Don't worry Book, this isn't the fastest one mechanically. However, it isn't the slowest either.

This is because we literally have Metalworking 0, so we only get up to Metalworking 10 (effective), but have to attack a higher BT so 10 being higher than 7 doesn't matter at all.
 
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[X] In Amber Clad
[X] A Fractal View

Edited out 'The Heart of Kong' as I would like 'A Fractal View' to win far more than it.
 
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will408914 said:
Very, very unlikely, considering that was one of the potential rewards that we passed up.
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Knight-Radiant said:
No way

At the Armory we COULD have gotten mats. We chose the Hammer instead of Mats. Ves isn't going to give us mats too, it's not how he runs his games.

Actions have consequences.
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We chose the Mystery Box and Chui Dao was a result of that Mystery Box. If there are any mats buried in the ruins then they probably won't be as good as the ones that could have come from the mat option.
 
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CedeTheBees said:
We'll be delaying it crafting a charm that we can only start using after integrating 3 separate 5+ phase techniques. At least with the Heart we get our limbs back right away.
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Here's my earlier response to a question that was similar to this. (KR said something on the lines of the charm will only be useful when we start carving channels, to which I wrote:
ReaderOfFate said:
Kong Zhi doesn't even know how to carve channels, is the issue. I don't think it'll manifest as something dedicated to carving channels and nothing else just because of that factor, so I suspect it will have some immediate effects as well, especially considering that Zhi's intent will be on the lines of fixing his body with this Charm. Remember, as Ves and Ct said, the mechanics of each of the Charms are still evolving. I think looking at what the Charm is actually trying to do is a good way to guess a few of those later additions, but I will fully admit this is speculation.
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CedeTheBees said:
Also, if we're talking about setting a foundation. You mentioned it was likely Siani was gonna have us carve channels based on our integrated techs. It makes sense to have the integrations be as good as we can have them if that's the case. Make the ground as fertile as possible and the channels dug into it will be all the more efficient.
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If we're talking in terms of foundations, I'd think that the Charm dedicated to carving channels, the basis of our foundation forged in the Farmer's Step, would be better than a Charm that has what appears to also be benefits to channel cultivation, but as an auxiliary effect instead.

I say this because Auntie Bi described channels as spreading Anam throughout your body, irrigating it, so to speak, which would strengthen you. The wording for the Heart of Kong has similar implications when it describes spreading anam across your body after integrating techniques.

However, since this is primarily a side effect compared to the meat of the Charm, which is creating a toggleable Warform, I think it's safe to call it a lesser effect compared to a Charm that showcases benefits to channel-carving more. So, I don't think we'd really lose out in that particular aspect.

Sorry, but I gotta sleep. It's 2 in the morning over here, after all. I'll respond to you in the morning.
 
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This could be Zhi if y'all weren't sleeping on the Spymaster's Pride.
 
*Sigh* voting for Heart of Kong again to make sure forge doesn't win, since I've come to dislike the coffin idea
[X] The Heart of Kong
[X] A Fractal View
 
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