Hmmph... this junior is a good seed [Cultivation Management Quest]

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Omake Writer Instructions:

There are four fields you need to fill out.

Omake Link, which is just a link to your first omake for the turn. This makes it easier for me to read them as I do the update - without this it's tough to know off the bat which omake were written this turn, and to properly

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Yeesh, how stupidly approproate for a cultivation world is it that someone would hate noodles enough that they wpuld seek her out to kill her. Especially since it took 2 LST to avpid a death.
 
Gaius Antonius
Omake Reward: Cultivation Boost +10 cultivation)
Fate - Obsessive and ever-seeking, Gaius leapt into strength as others leapt into action. Advancing rapidly and cultivating absurdly, it was almost as if the Heavens were enabling the Clan for once, granting the 1st Heavenstage Aspirants the chance to reach the 9th in but a pair of decades. Gaius completed three missions, hunting down dangerous Revolution Scorpions and was gifted with a panoply of cultivation resources (+10 Cultivation). He was readied for the war to come.
Impact - 0 (+0)
Cultivation
- 9th Heavenstage
Cultivation-Year Equivalent - 63 years (+42)
Health
- Healthy -> Wounded
@occipitallobe I'm a little confused. The status says he's wounded, but the report doesn't mention him getting hurt. If he is wounded I'll just assume the scorpion did it, I just wanted to make sure.

Either way, nice! Pretty decent fate all around, plenty of good writing fodder.
 
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Magnus Centenius
Omake Reward: LST
Fate - Magnus took another step forward, mere decades from reaching Foundation Establishment. Slowly recovering from his wounds, his mastery over his puppet-arms increasing. He judged that he would be able to ascend almost as soon as his wounds were healed and he could face the wrath of the Heavens.
Impact - 3 (+3)
Cultivation
- 10th Heavenstage (-1 to FB)
Cultivation-Year Equivalent - 108 years (+0)
Health
- Wounded -> Lightly Wounded
Magnus was suppose to have gone into the secret realm this turn, what happened to that?
Turn 6 Magnus didn't end up going and was suppose to go this turn
 
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Well, looking at that report, Wei Feng might have a chance of succeeding at getting to the 13th Heavenstage and then passing the tribulation with plus eighty Cultivation years.
 
Magnus was suppose to have gone into the secret realm this turn, what happened to that?
Turn 6 Magnus didn't end up going and was suppose to go this turn

I, uh. Somehow accidentally deleted it from the sheet T_T. I'll put it on my list of things to fix up a little later on today.

@occipitallobe I'm a little confused. The status says he's wounded, but the report doesn't mention him getting hurt. If he is wounded I'll just assume the scorpion did it, I just wanted to make sure.

Either way, nice! Pretty decent fate all around, plenty of good writing fodder.

My mistake - copied the template from an earlier Good Seed Report and missed Gaius's health. He's healthy. I'll fix that now.
 
Whew, I finally caught up! This was one hell of a journey, and it seems it's just getting started. I'll post my own Good Seed later today when I get the chance. Just gotta work out some details to align with the timeline...

Also, does anyone wanna give poor Hektor an omake bonus to fix his crippling? His mom's the only veteran council member left, and she's grief-stricken enough as-is. :p
I come back for a quick glance at the thread and my boys been crippled?
 
Don't worry about it, I can just put it for next turn, and have him go in next turn after he heals, and maybe get something good for the tribulation

To be entirely honest, Secret Realms are... not so good for people who aren't looking to cultivate. A lot of the gains are useless to someone attacking a higher Great Realm, as they mainly yield Impact or Cultivation, the latter of which you can't use if you've maxed out for the time being.
 
To be entirely honest, Secret Realms are... not so good for people who aren't looking to cultivate. A lot of the gains are useless to someone attacking a higher Great Realm, as they mainly yield Impact or Cultivation, the latter of which you can't use if you've maxed out for the time being.
In that case, go now, maybe I'll push through this turn.
 
I come back for a quick glance at the thread and my boys been crippled?
Unfortunately so, and you got back just one day late to heal him in time for turn 8 :cry:
He got crippled on turn 7 from fighting a core formation guy multiple times and surviving, so that's pretty rad. This time you beat Achilles, good on ya.
 
Contribution Board Missions - Mechanics
This is threadmarked for now but will move to informational later.

Previously I was looking at how to let higher realm cultivators assist the Clan mechanically. This is a tough problem - much of the top-level story is big in scale and even high-level Foundation experts have trouble making a dent.

I was also looking for a way to unify Fates and make them seem less random.

These two ideas came together with the new Contribution Board Missions.

Each turn, based on the votes at the Turn Vote, a number of Missions will arise. They might be things like 'defending a city', or 'beating an enemy attack', or 'finding a high-level bandit', or 'hunting down a major Spirit Beast'. They'll change each turn depending on the Clan's situation and what we aim to do, as well as what's happening more generally.

However, instead of rolling for outcomes myself, these Missions will have their outcome determined by the number of cultivators who go on them - plus their cultivation. Or rather, their Effective Cultivation (their cultivation level plus their Impact).

Each Mission will have two sets of outcomes. Qi Condensation and Foundation Establishment. This reflects the simple reality that Qi Condensors are not very impactful, most of the time. A good outcome will assist the Clan, a bad outcome will hurt it. These are not exceptionally major things and will not win or lose you the game, but are still nice-to-haves.

As a consequence of Missions, all the Fates for people will revolve around the Mission they've taken on. This will make is easier (I hope) for Good Seeds to write with one another and also perhaps have better inspiration for omake, but we'll see how it goes.

Once the Missions for this turn are established I'll post as to how this will work spreadsheet-wise.

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Assisting the Clan.

Foundation cultivators above a certain level (at the moment my threshold is Mid Foundation Establishment, or 3 Pillar) may choose to Assist the Clan. This means in lieu of a normal Fate roll, they roll to make the Mission they're on do even better. They're still vulnerable to being wounded or killed, but their successes only help the Clan instead of earning Impact and Cultivation for themselves.

For weaker cultivators, this isn't an option (Qi disciples just don't do enough to shift the balance)


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Legions

There was previously a Legion mechanic, but I've junked it as it was going to add a lot of work for comparatively little gain in the long run. Instead, I'll be establishing a list of player-run Legions. These Legions will tend (for whatever in-game reason) to head up Missions, so you'll often find yourself working with other Good Seeds in various ways. This is mainly to tie Good Seeds together and start establishing more coherent shared stories on smaller scales. So running a Legion is purely fluff, but making Good Seed Legions a centrepiece of this mechanic, I hope, should make them objects of interest for all players.
 
I like these changes a lot. There were so many good seeds around that they'd have to be tied together for any coherent storyline to happen.
 
That sounds fantastic. Definitely looking forward to the kinds of stories that could result from it.
 
Foundation cultivators above a certain level (at the moment my threshold is Mid Foundation Establishment, or 3 Pillar) may choose to Assist the Clan. This means in lieu of a normal Fate roll, they roll to make the Mission they're on do even better. They're still vulnerable to being wounded or killed, but their successes only help the Clan instead of earning Impact and Cultivation for themselves.

For weaker cultivators, this isn't an option (Qi disciples just don't do enough to shift the balance)
Question: Does this look at raw cultivation or effective cultivation?
 
There was previously a Legion mechanic, but I've junked it as it was going to add a lot of work for comparatively little gain in the long run. Instead, I'll be establishing a list of player-run Legions. These Legions will tend (for whatever in-game reason) to head up Missions, so you'll often find yourself working with other Good Seeds in various ways. This is mainly to tie Good Seeds together and start establishing more coherent shared stories on smaller scales. So running a Legion is purely fluff, but making Good Seed Legions a centrepiece of this mechanic, I hope, should make them objects of interest for all players.
Makes sense. The customized Legion stuff sounded cool, but an absolute pain in the ass on the book keeping side of things.
 
Year 140 End - Council Meeting
Manuel looked down on his Council, and sighed.

They were unused to their new quarters near the warfront to be, but he could not realistically counter Old Cannibal from the Clan's inner sanctum. Likewise, having his Elders able to assist him would be crucial. Old Cannibal might take advantage to strike deeply into his territory, but the other man knew Manuel had slivers of Nascent Will, and was more than willing to use them to prevent it. No, this was the optimal choice. Perhaps not the best, but he could not see the future, merely plan for it.

The Council moved sluggishly, paperwork high on desks and eyes flickering back and forth. They were united in the pursuit of a goal, now. Elders were normally primed for this, slowly brought into the inner circles and brought up so they'd find it easier to perform their duties without his input, but the new Council had been brought in quickly. Even now, they struggled a little.

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There are basically four main Mechanics in this quest.

(1) Choices. Your Clan Council will ask you to make a call on something. Mostly they won't do this - they're competent enough to handle things on their own, but sometimes they will. You'll see 0-2 of these per turn, on average. They're usually pretty straight-up binary choices.

(2) Focuses. You choose in general what the Clan should focus on for the next 20 years. Building up for war? Training new disciples? Carving more arrays? More trade? Focuses don't prevent you from doing everything else, it's more 'here's the one thing we should really get done'. Focuses are mainly mediated by your personal skill levels and specialities.

(3) Actions. What you, personally, do. Usually mediated by skills, but often by Cultivation level - especially when it comes to combat. You can always Write In Actions. In fact, writing in more complex and well-thought out Actions will positively increase your chances of success.

(4) Purchases. What wealth the Clan has, and what your Council want you to spend it on. They'll usually come to you with the thing they want most. No micromanagement, just 'here is the big-ticket item I want'. These will often (but not always) persist between turns. Wealth is expressed in terms of Years of Income Saved. You can take as many of these as you can pay for! Keep in mind, though, if you spend all your money, you won't have it in future for dire situations.

All voting is Plan Voting. Make a Plan if you want, or just vote on someone else's! You can vote on as many Plans as you like! Approval Voting, baby!

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No Voting Moratorium this time. Seeing how it impacts things.

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Manuel sat in the tent. Surrounded by arrays, hidden by his own Dao, and stuffed full of tables and chairs, the forty-year old tables they'd brought from the main Council chambers still offering protection against mental effects and poisons. It made it a little easier to check his Elders for mental corruption and subtle poisons without potentially activating them, and one had been caught already. An attempt to suborn Xinya from Old Cannibal, just a sliver of mental influence. Manuel had caught it, of course, but it was merely an opening gambit. Old Cannibal understood how important their organisation was. It was risky, moving the Council forward, but he needed to push his advantages hard.

Around sat his Councillors, some who were skilled and valuable pieces on the gameboard. Others were less unknowns. Twenty years ago, he merely hoped they'd be able to carry out their duties. Today, he was satisfied to call them useful. Not satisfactory - to say that they worked well together was an exaggeration, administration and disciples and intrigue all still finding the proper way to work with one another.

"Report."

Manuel's voice was clarion, ringing out not only through the Council chambers, but through the camp and the six Legions surrounding them. It inspired, stiffening spines and letting all who heard it know that there was power on their side, real and palpable. No matter how many screaming Cannibals surrounded them, they were the Clan, and no number of savages would tear them down.

He let a smile come to his lips. Mastering that little trick had taken four years of dedicated effort. Alexios had thought he wouldn't be able to do it, and it had been almost useless at a time. Now, though... well, he was glad he had it.

First was Casia Zimisce, a Late Core Formation cultivator. Rail-thin and severe-faced, she looked as though she had perpetually swallowed a lemon. Her intimidating posture and expression aside, once she spoke one wouldn't pay attention to them, as she set everyone around her at ease. Casia was Stratopedarches, or in more common terms, the Elder of Administration. To her fell the duties of managing mines, herbs, cities, camps - all manner of resources flowed through her hands. In the last twenty years she had spent much time developing her staff, and simply trying to make the Contribution Board run. She had done an admirable job.

"Archegetes. Obviously in terms of wealth things have gone reasonably well. We have nine million Spirit stavraton saved, though we are poorer than I might like. Strength Purity has offered us a loan on fairly favorable terms, given our circumstances. Ten million stavraton, in return for a permanent reduction in their fees on the Scorpion Road. I estimate a loss of one million or so stavraton every two decades. Under ordinary terms this would be a foolish thing to accept, but we may need the wealth for the war."

[ ] Take the Loan. Permanent -1 Wealth per turn, +10 Wealth now.

[ ] Don
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Currently the Clan has 9 Wealth (+0 from last turn. +15 from income, -1 from inefficiency penalty, -5 from hired Core Formation mercenaries).


Second was Kleisthenes Sarantapechos, a Mid Core Formation Elder. Dead Euphrosyne's twin sister, though less talented in cultivation. She cultivated a rare Yang attribute technique, and went by a male name, and wore a male body to aid in her cultivation. For her, if she had not cultivated her Yang technique - she never would have risen into Core Formation. Such a thing was uncommon among your Clan, but not unknown. She is the Hetaireiarches, or in common terms, the Elder of Diplomacy. To her fell the duties of managing external powers and other Nascent Souls. She often complained about her lack of talent, and she and Manuel were reasonable friends. This friendship had suffered with her sister's death, however. In recent years, Manuel and she have had dinner a few times, slowly trying to rebuild a badly damaged relationship.

"Archegetes. Our relations with Strength Purity Sect have strengthened again over the last few decades. It is difficult to get intelligence reports at the moment, but our erstwhile allies are willing to give us news of their battles. The Great Battlefield has been put in favor of the Righteous Path, as Strength Purity push into Demonic Altar territory. A massive column of Altar troops are marching west, to the Flower and Arrow Sect. The Strength Purity troops are unable to follow, and are hoping on their allies to be able to defend themselves. A risky maneuver, and if it pays off the Demonic Altar will seize the intiative once more. The Siege remains broken, and the Noble Knowledge Sect are spreading some manner of poison clouds that transform mortals into murderous zombies in the surrounding lands. An early estimate is that they have killed between ten and fifteen million mortals in the last decade."

Third was Xie Xinya, a Mid Core Formation Elder. She is beautiful, long black hair framing an oval face. Her lips glossy and eyes rouged, she was certainly the cultivator on the Council who cared most about her appearance. Manuel missed Euphrosyne - that old woman had never hesitated to argue with him or call him a fool, and there were precious few who would. But dwelling on his failures won no battles. She is the Parakoimomenos, or in common terms, the Elder of Intrigue. Previously you held her position. Hopefully, Xinya can achieve some fraction of what Nikephoros did. To her falls the duties of espionage, sabotage, and assassination.

"Archegetes. Things are.. indecisive. I don't think we're going to see much of an information war now. Too many troops. I've pulled a lot of my informants back, and I'm building my forces in the places I can hold them. I'm aiming to push two cities into open revolt, but whether I succeed will remain to be seen. Most of my other spies in Cannibal territory are dead. I spent a lot of lives to build a sort of map. One of the northern cities, Fu Tong... it's impenetrable. I don't know what's happening there, but anyone I send there dies."

Fourth came Destasia Duca, an Early Core Formation Elder. She is Chartoularios Tou Kanikleiou, or in simpler terms, the Master of Disciples. She picks out good seeds, gives training and assistance, and manages the core of the Clan Contribution Board for Qi Condensation and Foundation Building disciples in times of peace. She is flighty, friendly, and happy, and is well-known for her eyes she can use to befuddle or poison her enemies with, as well as her... unique approach to both life and cultivation.

"Archegetes. I am excited, happy, and having a good time! My disciples are not! Plenty of training for them, hah!"

Manuel frowned.

"And your results, Destasia?"

"Hmm... I'd say we're training at eighty percent efficiency? No, eighty-five. Eighty-three, maybe. Lots of new Qi Disciples, and people ascending all over the place! Did you hear about the Callista girl? What an amazing 13th Heavenstage breakthrough! I know you denied my application to dissect her and see what makes her tick, but-"

"No."

"Well, not to worry then. Plenty of new Elders from last time, and I think we're doing well. Maybe. Well, it depends on your definition of well. Less disciples are dying than when I started, though. Hardly any of them crippled in training!"

Lastly was Heraclius Staurakius, a Great Circle Core Formation Elder. He is Protostrator, leader of your armies. One of your precious Core Formation cultivators in the Great Circle, Heraclius has stalled cultivation-wise. He is an exceptional commander, but he is old. At 960, he will only be capable of command for another 40 years or so - and this due to a Lifespan Treasure. Unless some miracle happens, however, he is the best commander available by a significant margin, and the most experienced, but taking him on as a commander will mean replacing him before too long - discontinuity of command is where the Legions are the weakest. You may need to use a second Treasure if the war continues, and you have few enough of those stored up.

Heraclius speaks, a gravelled voice coming from a throat that had been cut more than once.

"Archegetes. You are aware of our warplans. A primary defense in the Burnished Crags, with wings spreading out to the Xin Kingdom and north to our core territories to protect our supply lines. A rock that our enemies will crash upon and break. There is little more to discuss strategically. Tactically, I believe we have an excellent disposition and some powerful and flexible options to defeat our enemies. I hope to provide a favorable battle with Old Cannibal if it is possible."

You clench your jaw, and think.

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Currently the Clan has 9 Wealth.

The Clan will gain 15 Income, and lose 1 to Inefficiency for a total Income of 14 next turn.
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What should the Clan focus on? (Outside of the war, which is of course your primary focus)

[ ] Building Bridges (Write-in target) - You should make more allies. Choose a target on the map and aim to have their relations with you increased. Give gifts, exchange assistance, aim for strategic marriages.

[ ] Intrigue (Write-in target) - You should learn about another clan entirely. Spend Spirit Stones like water in the plains and find out everything you can. Strengths. Weaknesses, places to strike, rebels, and so on and so forth.

[ ] Raiding (Write-in target) - Better to weaken an enemy. Send teams of cultivators to go raid an enemy for resources and to kill them where possible. Minor conflicts, with minor rewards. At best, you can seize minor territorial gains. This will worsen your relations, of course. Gains widely variable Wealth (0-10, excluding crits). May seize territory and gain Income in extreme cases. Loses Cultivators - around 5,000 Qi Condensation cultivators, 50 Foundation Establishment cultivators, and potentially 1 Core Formation Elder.

[ ] War (Write-in target) - Simply invade. Strike with all your might and seize territory. Kill cultivators. Requires your personal attention to prevent Nascent Souls simply obliterating your forces. Uses your personal Action for the turn. War will open a set of new sub-turns.

[ ] Increasing Wealth - More trade, more mines, more growth. Aim to find more Spirit Stones, tax more from traders, whatever works to increase your Clan Wealth. Increases Wealth by an average of 5.

[ ] Training Soldiers - Raising Disciples to higher Realms is all well and good, but training them to be perfect members of Formations is better. Ensure your Clan is trained and ready for war. Your readiness to go to war will increase significantly, though this fades over time.

[ ] Fortifying (Write-in territory, ally or vassal) - Spend Clan manpower and soldiers to build new fortifications against outside enemies. New Arrays, help train new cultivators in lesser Formations to defend their lands, and so on. Will also strengthen a vassal or ally if chosen, and increase relations with them. Increases defenses in the chosen territory, ally, or vassal.

[ ] Write-in

What will you do? (Note. If Old Cannibal surfaces you will need to abandon your personal Action to go deal with him.)

[ ] Hunt An Enemy (Write-In) - Why not? Hunt down enemies, see if you can kill someone. Usually used against an opposing Nascent Soul. Potentially very dangerous.

[ ] Weaken An Enemy (Write-In Faction) - Choose a faction, and use your Nascent Soul strength to simply sneak in and do damage. A little underhanded and shameful, but what do you care for the views of the Righteous Path? Potentially dangerous.

[ ] Assist A Faction (Write-in Faction) - Use your personal strength to assist an ally of some kind. Potentially dangerous.

[ ] Economic Activity - Carve arrays, scribe useful cultivation techniques onto scrolls, hunt down useful opportunities that might be dangerous to a Core Formation Elder. Make some money for the Clan.

[ ] Lecturing - You can simply lecture your many juniors on cultivation. Spend your time helping them grow, using less resources and ensuring better growth for the Clan.

[ ] Write-in

Purchases:

We have 9 Wealth saved. The Clan cannot go into debt (normally, though you do have an option to borrow here!) - you can only spend what you have!

Casia Zimisce
wants to...

[ ] Hire Strength Purity Foundation Mercenaries (5 Wealth)

"
Archegetes, the Scorpion Road is only so defensible. As we pull troops south, the Strength Purity Sect is willing to assist us further. I am not sure what their overall aim is, and no doubt it involves making us reliant on them diplomatically, but for a reasonable sum we can protect our trade from any deep strikes the Cannibals may perform."'

Kleisthenes Sarantapechos wants to...

[ ] Offer Jingshen Scorpion Road Tribute Reductions (5 Wealth)

"Archegetes, Old Jingshen has been rumbling. If he sees a weakness... well, I'm not sure he'll strike, but I'd sure as the Hells like to have something to dangle in front of him and take away if he did. I know it's a waste of wealth, but they can likely be bought off for a decade or two with some tariff reductions, and those are likely to be the pivotal ones."

Xie Xinya wants to...

[ ] Empower the Golden Eye Array to See Inside Fu Tong (11 Wealth)

"I know, we'd need to borrow money. But I can't get any spies in there, and the levels of protection mean the Array can't power through. I estimate we'd need eleven million stavraton worth of spiritual energy to break through, but if we can see what Old Cannibal has there... it might just be a honeypot designed to steal our wealth, but it might be crucial."

Destasia Duca wants to...

[ ] Attempt to improve the Technique Palace (14 Wealth)

"Archegetes, I'm pretty sure... ninety percent sure I can fuse the Technique Palace with a piece of hateful Nascent Will I carved off from a dead Nascent Owl. Only a tiny piece, and I've got it contained! Using the wisdom of the owl with the- well, to get to the point I think I could let our cultivators in Foundation Establishment use the Palace. Big longterm improvement, yeah? The Will isn't stable, though, so it'll disintegrate soon enough. Sorry, I know it's not a great time, but... ninety percent! That's a huge chance!"

Heraclius Staurakius wants to...

[ ] Build the Ten Thousand Forts (5 Wealth)

"Archegetes, I have been reading several reports of Strength Purity doctrine. One of their doctrines is to establish many small forts - we do something similar, but these are specifically designed to allow weaker cultivators to fight off Blood Path attackers, hiding before coming out to savage the enemy from the rear. Each can only sustain a single cultivator, but if they are not broken open by a Foundation cultivator over a few weeks, or a Core Elder over an hour or two, they will remain a thorn in the enemy's side. I am hoping to litter our northern supply lines with such forts in order to properly secure them, and ensure any deep strikes are punished."
 
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If we take the loan, how much money will we be able to spend this turn? 9, 19, or 33? Also, we seem to have a difference between "Currently the Clan has 9 Wealth." and " We have 11 Wealth saved. "


I'm definitely thinking it's best to take the loan, we're all in here.
 
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We have 11 Wealth saved. The Clan cannot go into debt (normally, though you do have an option to borrow here!) - you can only spend what you have!
Currently the Clan has 9 Wealth.
These don't match. Assuming from other text that 9 is the correct amount.


@occipitallobe If we used the [] increasing wealth personal action can we spend some of the increased income this turn? I assume not.

Tough choices. Technique palace repair is usually 40 wealth, so this is 65% reduction on fixing it. It would be a big boost. At the moment above qi condensation we are individually weaker on average than others, made up for by our formations techniques. Getting our 5k foundation establishments stronger is pretty huge. On the other hand, we got burned last time on a general rather than specific boost. Plus it requires the loan and taking nothing else.

Potentially, but the repair costs would increase somewhere in the range of 4x to repair it for Foundation Establishment and maybe 10x for Core Formation..

The increase in strength will happen by the end of this turn - you'll buy it in Year 1 and it'll be largely complete by Year 20 of the turn.
 
The short term savings are peanuts compared to the long term wealth we'd gain from winning this campaign

We can ignore the Technique Palace I think

For a similar reason the loan is genuinely attractive and worth taking into consideration.

[X] Plan For An Ace Up The Sleeve(?)
-[X] Take the Loan. Permanent -1 Wealth per turn, +10 Wealth now.
"An unfortunate and expensive business, War is. We have little choice but to do as much as we can to keep the Blood Cannibals from breaching our defenses, and unlike what the Righteous Powers face up north with the Demonic War Altar Sect, here we fight an enemy truly against the wall and desperate to succeed. No expense can be spared when stopping them at their strongest; the beginning of the battle."
-[X] Training Soldiers - Raising Disciples to higher Realms is all well and good, but training them to be perfect members of Formations is better. Ensure your Clan is trained and ready for war. Your readiness to go to war will increase significantly, though this fades over time.
"Now is the time for War which we have been expecting for nigh on a century now. This is the moment when the Legions must be brought out to full effectiveness. Prepare the drills. The stocks of spirit stones. Each Formation must be perfect. Each Array cunningly worked and set where it needs to be. Our Golden Devils must practice their techniques and ready themselves to greatest possible extent if they wish to survive."
-[X] Prepare to Interfere With Fu Tong if Old Cannibal is scheming anything there, and if the Golden Eye Array Reveals Otherwise, interfere with any other gambits the Cannibals might enact in general.
"Old Cannibal is no fool. He knows that mere probing strikes, or even the usual diffuse approach of a mass of Blood Path cultivators will result in little more than dulling our spears with the blood and offal of his Juniors. Whatever gambit he intends to enact in place of betting everything on a meatgrinder in his favor begins with Fu Tong. Whether it is bait to lure me out, or the place of some mighty Array or Treasure being assembled in preparation to lay waste to our defenses. Whatever it is, this can not be allowed to stand."
-[X] Empower the Golden Eye Array to See Inside Fu Tong (11 Wealth)
"Ruinously expensive, but if there is one thing that the defenses surrounding Fu Tong will be prepared for it is the Clan's usual methods, and the Dao of Heaven's Shadow as well. Piercing through the veil of the Blood Cannibals secrets is the reason why the extension in the Burnished Crags exists. Even should it be destroyed in the attempt, so long as the Array fulfills it's purpose and allows me to act unfettered in dismantling that gambit it shall be a price having been well spent."
-[X] Build the Ten Thousand Forts (5 Wealth)
"Fairly straightforward. Rather than pay for Strength Purity to provide for us, let us not just permanently steal from their methods at a fraction of the cost instead. So long as Deep Strikes can be warded off and the front line held, then that it is what shall truly matter in this War. "
 
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[ ] Take the Loan.

This is a given, it will take 200 years to start losing money. Investing the money now to win the war will bring other sources of revenues.

[ ] Empower the Golden Eye Array to See Inside Fu Tong (11 Wealth)

Knowledge is power, combined with a weaken faction option we could remove pieces from the board early. We paid dearly to build it, let's get our money's worth during the war.

[ ] Build the Ten Thousand Forts (5 Wealth)

Heraclius is our most competent subordinate and it's what he suggests. Seeing how we are at war and he's our general, I think we should listen to him and give him the tools he asks.
 
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