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Star Wars: Ship Designer Quest

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[X] Continue as your original plan called for.

Hmmm. I'm not a fan of becoming part of the problem, nor of encouraging unsafe modifications.

Every ship has some kind of weakness, this is just ours.
 
Deltamaster said:
[X] Continue as your original plan called for.

When the Cornellian ships start popping from simply receiving hits to their guns (Which happens allot in the prequels and is a salient plotpoint in the final movie of the new trilogy... Cuz logic got F***d) then they will end up in hot water (They can bribe their way out of it though... Our Yard isn't even close to politically powerful enough for that.)

Better to look into miniturisation of tech after this then miniaturise the turret reactors and such. Either that or miniaturise other things enough to fit in the additional reactor assemblies anyway.

If it was for a ship like a fighter or a gun with engines I would say go for it... But with the Corvette? (Which NEEDS to succeed to guarentee additional military contracts?)

Nope. (Go safe and true here- We can always modernise it later on... when we can shrink the reactor tech enough)

Although... can we just incorperate a series of high power capacitor banks into the design in the special compartment? (It would mean the ship can support an additional turbolaser turret as its firing of stored power from that... I avoids the issue of feeding a direct line to the reactor as well as it goes through the Capitor bank so if a turret gets destroyed the Bank takes the backlash instead of the reactor...)

Tldr: Make a capacitor bank in special section (charges when ship out of combat) and link it to the second gun. If it gets blown up bank gets backlash instead of reactor so no Ship explosion)

@Jax
would this be feasible?
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Enthusiast#117 said:
[X] Continue as your original plan called for.

Hmmm. I'm not a fan of becoming part of the problem, nor of encouraging unsafe modifications.

Every ship has some kind of weakness, this is just ours.
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Deltamaster's high cap power banks idea might be the fix we need to handle the issue, although when we get to specialized compartments can use our massive amount of advantage points to boost certain stats or lower the total cost of the ship. Although if we make the modifications and Tarkin calls us out on them we have evidence to dispute that there is a precedence for such actions. If we have any leftover compartments we might be able to squeeze a turbolaser in if we have the space.
 
Negation said:
This is Tarkin, the dude who plagerised the Expeditionary Battle Planetoid and gave it stupid engineering weaknesses that allowed a hotshot farmboy to drop a bomb down there and blow the whole thing up.

Informing him of anything regarding engineering is useless and would just give him leverage to screw us over.
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There was no stupid weakness. The rebels had the best odds possible and they still lost all but three fighters in their desperate attack. The exhaust shaft was a secondary one and one of many exhaust ports. It was a lot of luck and the force that let them win that day. Tarkin also didn't build the thing it was under his supervision just like the Maw instillation developed technologies but Tarkin didn't do it himself.

[X] Make the changes and continue with the project. Time was ticking.

We have advantages to spare and we can use those advantages to make the power lines far stronger and safer.
 
[X] Continue as your original plan called for.

It's only a problem if your ship is somehow completely mis-oriented to deal with an enemy big ship. If that happens, you have a lot more problems than just the lack of firing arc (i.e. a big enemy ship has gotten the drop on you and your remaining existence can be measured in the seconds it takes for their turbolasers to gut you).

This is a corvette; it's going to be fast and maneuverable and probably not alone. As long as you don't try to deploy corvettes in intimidation formation like an idiot and instead deploy in a way that allows your ships to cover each other if they work together, you're fine.

If you want a ship designed to be used in an intimidation formation that can take on any number of hostile large ships and come out on top? Provide us a new purchase order; we will be giddy to supply that product. This isn't that product and we aren't Pentagon Wars.
 
[X] Continue as your original plan called for.

Maybe capacitor banks can be used in a refit package later...
 
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Deltamaster said:
Maybe capacitor banks can be used in a refit package later...
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The capacitor banks are part of the turbolaser. CEC uses the main reactor to load them. That isn't allowed by the republics' regulations, as it allows the firepower and rate to go trough the roof. That is whay, the generators are in the turrets, they are allowed by the republic becouse they know that this will stop anyone from adding to many or to large weapons on small ships. This is done for two reasons: 1) to better controll the building and weapons on warships and 2) to stop pirates from getting to powerfull warships.

CEC comes away with this break, becouse they can point to the (to small) generators and say "look there it is, its totaly not powered by the main reactor!" even if anyone knows they lie, they don't from er certain point of view. Also, CEC has damn good lawyers.
 
Hm... Would it be possible to go for broke and mount 4 turrets (so 2 of the modded set) on the corvette using the cheaper and dodgier method used by our competition? If I'm seeing things right, it'll take as much space as one good turbolaser.
 
Jax said:
CEC comes away with this break, becouse they can point to the (to small) generators and say "look there it is, its totaly not powered by the main reactor!" even if anyone knows they lie, they don't from er certain point of view. Also, CEC has damn good lawyers.
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We don't have lawyers that good, I'm assuming.

We're much too small for that.
 
the precedent has already been set with CEC, if the republic comes after us for this we can simply point at CEC and say it was approved by the republic already. They will have to either accept our design or slap CEC as well.
 
Barondoctor said:
[X] Continue as your original plan called for.

It's only a problem if your ship is somehow completely mis-oriented to deal with an enemy big ship. If that happens, you have a lot more problems than just the lack of firing arc (i.e. a big enemy ship has gotten the drop on you and your remaining existence can be measured in the seconds it takes for their turbolasers to gut you).

This is a corvette; it's going to be fast and maneuverable and probably not alone. As long as you don't try to deploy corvettes in intimidation formation like an idiot and instead deploy in a way that allows your ships to cover each other if they work together, you're fine.

If you want a ship designed to be used in an intimidation formation that can take on any number of hostile large ships and come out on top? Provide us a new purchase order; we will be giddy to supply that product. This isn't that product and we aren't Pentagon Wars.
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We aren't adding an extra turret we are lowering the amount of space and increasing the power of the one we have. After all they only asked for 1 heavy weapon. The saved space will be used either on an extra laser cannon to bring up the number to what was asked or added to stronger shields and better quarters or add some more missiles.
 
[X] Make the changes and continue with the project. Time was ticking.
Changing my vote. We can not afford to deal with any legal troubles at the moment. Make a note of the CEC possibly illegal design
Adventwolf said:
We aren't adding an extra turret we are lowering the amount of space and increasing the power of the one we have. After all they only asked for 1 heavy weapon. The saved space will be used either on an extra laser cannon to bring up the number to what was asked or added to stronger shields and better quarters or add some more missiles.
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All very good points that you have described.
Barondoctor said:
[X] Continue as your original plan called for.

It's only a problem if your ship is somehow completely mis-oriented to deal with an enemy big ship. If that happens, you have a lot more problems than just the lack of firing arc (i.e. a big enemy ship has gotten the drop on you and your remaining existence can be measured in the seconds it takes for their turbolasers to gut you).

This is a corvette; it's going to be fast and maneuverable and probably not alone. As long as you don't try to deploy corvettes in intimidation formation like an idiot and instead deploy in a way that allows your ships to cover each other if they work together, you're fine.

If you want a ship designed to be used in an intimidation formation that can take on any number of hostile large ships and come out on top? Provide us a new purchase order; we will be giddy to supply that product. This isn't that product and we aren't Pentagon Wars.
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Barondoctor also explains his POV very well on the matter, better to stick with the original plan. We can always design a new secondary corvette design later on. Now that I think of it, our honeycomb frame design can easily be utilized on other larger ship types. Halo's, Halcyon-class cruisers have a similar system, and our design is both cheap to repair and very durable, can only imagine if we patent the design quirk when we go cruisers and heavier types of ships.
Edit: This is a brilliant write in idea that fits the requirements while also saving on space. While in combat we would only have 1 dual turbolaser firing at a time we can actually cover additional firing arcs the other turret does not cover. That and informing him about the CEC mod is a good way of informing him about issues and that we as a company wants buyer input.
Edit mark 2: since Jax has stated that the flaw was fixed since the last Galactic sized war this option always us to meet requirements.
 
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khang said:
the precedent has already been set with CEC, if the republic comes after us for this we can simply point at CEC and say it was approved by the republic already. They will have to either accept our design or slap CEC as well.
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This is a great way to start a slap fight with CEC, who would wind up and take our heads clean off as well as never supply us parts ever again. No, no thank you, not today.

The thing we do with this information is keep it in our pockets for a time when we would be better able to leverage it. We have no wealthy patrons, no senators in our pockets, just a couple of customers who like our approach but could go elsewhere if they wanted.

Our entire company is probably smaller than their Legal Department.
 
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Also want to help out Jax, so here is the current tally of votes
Adhoc vote count started by 01exia on Oct 8, 2020 at 12:40 PM, finished with 41 posts and 23 votes.
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We need the extra space for the shield and crew rooms.


Can we expand our frame? We have a good frame, it just has to be a little bigger. Or is that too much effort?
 
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Havalt300 said:
We need the extra space for the shield and crew rooms.


Can we expand our frame? We have a good frame, it just has to be a little bigger. Or is that too much effort?
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We can't we are past the point where we could add more space.

People seem to be scared of the Republic acting against us when it has proven time and again to not be able to do anything. They aren't going to come at us for this because we are too small to matter to them. The ORSF also won't mind or sell us out since they suffered the same thing when the Republic tired to stop their formation and naval armament program before the Stark Hyperspace War that kill Tarkin's relative (not his father). Plus the ORSF has their own shipbuilding company so giving them the ship with the modification will allow them to do it to their own other ships if they want. And allow for future joint ventures between the two companies.
 
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