There was a ~14 hour gab with zero posts from Thursday 11:02 PM to Friday 3:26 PM, and showed little sign of stopping, which made me work with what I've got. Like there is first day caution, and then there is that, which does not benefit the town.
First off,
@Yun, you've implied a number of times that your post on
@Nictis was done that activity vaccuum. This last line isn't the only example, I can go find other places you worked that in. This seems pretty disingenuous to me. That gap was ended by
@Cyricubed. Your post on
@Nictis came five hours after that, and at a time when there was a post roughly every twenty minutes.
The backing off is due to it not being a particularly productive use of my time to continue exchanging posts as if I get lynched I'll get a wider pool of information for a post if I poke out how other players are reacting, or lack of any reaction if I have the time.
I don't really see it. There was a fair amount of discussion on Yun/Nictis, and related issues like my defense of
@Yun, IIRC including at least me and
@Wiadi, and I recall a couple other people discussing it to although it's already taking me ages to make this post so I don't want to be digging back through it more than I already am. I'd be more inclined to buy this if it looked like Yun had been going in another direction. Granted, Yun didn't have a ton of time for it, since
@Nictis decided to come back around to it, but all I see here is Yun sort of poking
@Wiadi.
Hm. Out of curiosity why are you just accepting what Nictis says at face value without asking him to prove it? Because I'm basing it off a rather common notion that the best way to lie is to include part of the truth, or however the exact saying goes.
In regards to previous games to my recollection the only thing that comes to mind that might be one from what I've posted is perhaps the point about why he voted to lynch Original Name, but if any exist they're unintentional as I'm not going to waste my time going back through previous mafia games to find an argument for why we should lynch another player.
Fundamentally trying to argue based upon previous games will only get use away from talking about the present, and thus isn't particularly useful for town imo.
Because if Nictis is lying, it'd be a really easy lie to get caught out on. The mafia community here seems fairly small, and there are only like four prior Archfiend games. I will probably check myself at some point.
I'm having trouble parsing what you are saying in middle paragraph here.
I think prior games are probably pretty useful, but this might be a difference in thought process.
What
@Nictis described sounded to me like something that doesn't happen by chance. I guess I'm particularly focusing on
@Yun's argument that Nictis was claiming to not be a Demon or Fiend, but he was doing this to conceal that he was actually a Possessed or Fiendish creature. That argument makes zero sense to me- when I say demon or fiend I mean the scum teams. There's no real useful way for us to distinguish between Possessed or Fiendish creatures and their vanilla counterparts. As I see it, a possessed creature claiming to not be a demon isn't a clever half truth, it's just the same straight up lie that every demon has to do. This is initially why I thought he was a new towny- it's a nonsense argument but I can see a new towny who get impressed with their own cleverness in seeing the potential for wordplay.
However, if this is an echo of a prior game, then I think it's very unlikely that Yun happens to think of and include a total nonsense argument that just so happens to call back to a previous game. I think it's something that absolutely needs an explanation.
I was hoping he'd claim to have read it in a previous game, so I could ask him to tell me which one while he was one and give him like 10-15 minutes to tell me, on the basis that if he read it he'd probably remember enough about the game to check for it pretty quickly, even if he didn't know it off the top of his head, whereas if he was told about it in a qt by a scummate the scummate might not be on. But he seems to be trying to brush it off as just coincidence which I don't buy.
