The day referring to that gets old is the day people stop trying to defend it.
So never.
The day referring to that gets old is the day people stop trying to defend it.
So never.
Ekzentric Lohner
I miss Wildstar...
This is a good argument. More rent means more resources which can then be turned around and invested in more improvements.
Changing my vote.
[X] Build a Room
- [X] Magical Paternoster: Allows full utility for upper floors.
The infamous bleach quest?The day referring to that gets old is the day people stop trying to defend it.
So never.
Only heard of it, and that the salt was legendary....
Edit:Not sure I know of the incident referenced......
Weren't most of the girls who arose during the crisis supposed to go back to normal afterwards?
I'm also somewhat of the opinion we've focused too heavily on housing as it is, but it's hard to say.
I'm also somewhat of the opinion we've focused too heavily on housing as it is, but it's hard to say.
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- Head in the clouds
I understand why you missed it since a lot of people are focused on the healing part but a large point of the Purification is Sanitation.
Housing is important as you said and we have a chance to install less broken plumbing now not later. I'd take somewhat cramped but with working toiletries over space and horrid shower any time.
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This. This would be extremely helpful.
I can understand not allowing paperclip maximization even if write-ins are allowed, and this highlights an excellent reason why it could be that way.
Ekzentric Lohner
I miss Wildstar...
I remember one of the things holding back use of the second floor was the difficulty changing out the tanks on the water dispensers. A multi-gallon jug of water is heavy and carrying a whole bunch of them up a flight of stairs each day is exhausting. Even if we hired someone to do it full-time, it wouldn't really be workable for more than a few upstairs rooms unless we could load a bunch of those containers on a cart and take them all up at once using an elevator.
That's sort-of a utility, and it's one that gets enabled by the elevator. Also makes it easier to get all the pipes and things we'd need for the mundane part of plumbing up to each floor.
Get the elevator in to make using the upper floors feasible, and we can start fixing the mundane issues with labor-for-rent deals while fixing the arcane side using the other options.
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- Outside the Box
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The sanitation getting so bad is one of the reasons I want the elevator. We just don't have enough space to make better plumbing. The Aura would help with sanitation, eventually, but it wouldn't help with the underlying cause. The elevator improves our building upgrades, and it comes online sooner. Don't just address the symptom when we can tackle the cause directly.
The Paternoster has a bigger effect than the Purity Chamber, and it has a bigger effect while it's being built whils the Purity Chamber has no effect until it's finished.
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I don't think we did anything wrong? I think there's actually a note from the QM: "votes called, and I've decided to ratchet the plot a little. Don't worry, this isn't your fault. Probably."
The lesson I'm learning is that taking the less-risky option doesn't work because the bad stuff will happen anyway just to keep the story interesting.
I think you've convinced me. We've built enough weapons. We can focus on quality-of-life stuff for a bit.
[X] Build a Room
- [X] Magical Paternoster: Allows full utility for upper floors.
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- Head in the clouds
I think you are betting very very hard on a building upgrade from the mystery bag being sanitation and quickly.
I also question your reasoning of sanitation being a symptom. The point of running water and pipes first and foremost is sanitation. Hot showers and the like are gravy.
Ignoring the sanitation situation is like ignoring a hole in the roof actively pouring water in.
Compounds is not the same thing as effect.
No question that having a working elevator allows more stuff to build on it. It opens up the top floors. Thing is the Purity chamber doesn't have to be capable of multiplying the effects of things later on to be a prize.
For most of human history most casualties of war was disease and infection not combat. Hell the death toll of the Flu of 1918 in the US tops the deaths of the Second World War handily. Sanitation isn't a minor note it's a huge deal!
The elevator let's us build up. The Purity Chamber stops one of our repeated specters dead in its tracks.
Icipall
Don't worry, we can fanfix that!
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They were being metaphorical, since we have no idea what we get when choosing to upgrade our building or workshop.
Some of them can, at least for a while.
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- UTC -6
Switching my vote.
[X] Build a Room
-[X] Area of Purification: Increase item yields, grants health benefits.
Because I'm hoping when it's done it'll be done and our helpers are throwing fits over hauling the shit out of rooms. (Calypso having thrown a fit big enough to persuade Homer that it may be a priority.)
[X] Build a Room
-[X] Area of Purification: Increase item yields, grants health benefits.
Because I'm hoping when it's done it'll be done and our helpers are throwing fits over hauling the shit out of rooms. (Calypso having thrown a fit big enough to persuade Homer that it may be a priority.)
From my perspective, it's that there are several holes in the roof, and the choice is between focusing on just that one hole in the roof, or letting it pour a bit longer so we can get some help in patching all of them up.
Even if a new crafter sticks with making gear, that's still someone keeping the girls equipped so Medicine Boy can focus on infrastructure stuff.
(I've been getting back into Frostpunk a bit, helps with getting into the right mindset. Also the next expansion is supposed to be coming out soonish, so I may as well knock some rust off)
Icipall
Don't worry, we can fanfix that!
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- Cold snow fields of Finland
Just a reminder that the only other artificer that MB knows of is Homer, and he can only make bombs. Making multiple workshops possible is no guarantee that a new artificer is just going to drop on our lap.
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- Plato's Cave
We do know (OOC) that there's an outfit crafter in the area - and one member of their group knows we exist.
The QM pointed out that they have no reason to pick up shop and join us, though.
Icipall
Don't worry, we can fanfix that!
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- Cold snow fields of Finland
And even if they did that's OOC knowledge. Unless they approached us, it would be no use to us.
I see it more prepping the space and sticking a Help Wanted sign in the window. The notice may or may not get back to her in a timely fashion, but at the same time there could well be other crafters in the area that we don't know about.
It's a risk, but it's one I'm more than willing to take. If we want to make any actual headway, we're going to need more than just Medicine Boy and Homer chipping away at things.
It's a risk, but it's one I'm more than willing to take. If we want to make any actual headway, we're going to need more than just Medicine Boy and Homer chipping away at things.
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Well, as much as I'd prefer our friendly magical elevator addition, Area of Purification is my second choice. The sanitation and health benefits could ease stress on the Magical Girls, with human needs. Might not affect dice rolls, but it sure makes for a more friendly home base of operations.
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Switching my vote
[X] Build a Room
- [X] Magical Paternoster: Allows full utility for upper floors.
[X] Build a Room
- [X] Magical Paternoster: Allows full utility for upper floors.
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- Mid-Atlantic
[X] Build a Room
-[X] Area of Purification: Increase item yields, grants health benefits.
Not gonna lie, medical and sanitation are two of our weakest points, and having one room that can arguably fix both problems is worth a lot.
-[X] Area of Purification: Increase item yields, grants health benefits.
Not gonna lie, medical and sanitation are two of our weakest points, and having one room that can arguably fix both problems is worth a lot.
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- Head in the clouds
Especially as it's not the Magical girls who we should be most worried about on this front but our human staff.
Sirrocco
Pedantic
My concern with the Area of Purification... it takes extra time, and it also consumes the workspace slot. So... basically it gives us nothing until it's done, and in order to get it done, we have to lock medicine boy out of his workshop... or else we have to put it on hold partway through, and continue getting no benefit from it (and possibly an upkeep cost) while we do other things.
Also, it's really very clear that "Bombs" is not the only thing that Homer can do with his workshop. He can also do critical magical infrastructure.
Also, it's really very clear that "Bombs" is not the only thing that Homer can do with his workshop. He can also do critical magical infrastructure.