It was a really flippant post and also to me says "I didn't read the thread and just posted to get it out of the way".
Agrees with BB's dislike of swarmingu's first post.
I think it's kinda rough to get D1 reads based on 3P speculation when basically every faction would probably prefer that the 3Ps actions benefit them in some way or another, it's like the one thing everyone can agree on and really doesn't reveal alignment at all.
This appears to be in reference to the Deep Dweller discussion. As the person who instigated said discussion, I'm inclined to agree - my goal there was legitimately to gain a better grasp of the role rather than trying to get alignment info on anyone.
Statistics are incredibly lame and boring even if they are useful, but people reacting to statistics is very cool and good for reads, so lets get a twofer!
I'm curious what Hailcapital thinks of the people who are speculating on his math!
Attempts to pivot from mech talk into talk about mech talk, the latter of which is probably more useful D1, so points for productive conversation direction albeit without any personal contribution.
You're going to have to explain precisely how to mechanically solve d1 when theres literally no information other than statistical speculation to solve based on.
We have no evidence to even correlate if people are lying even if they did willingly give up information.
Its literally just text walls.
Pretty reasonable, though NAI, reaction to swarmingu's excessive mech focus.
[X]Vote Swarmingu
I feel like hes trying to squirm is way out of a slip in not quite seeing. Theres the vibe of 'keep speculating while i know more than you'. I also find his point of mechanics being overlooked d2 being very patronizing.
If I get satisfying answers then cool but I think this deserves formal pressure.
NGL I don't entirely follow this one but it broadly follows from earlier suspicion on swarmingu.
Battle Wands are risky in a setup with already bonkers KP levels but useful in the sense that they CAN be town KP.
Exchanges are cool because theyre essentially a 1 shot delayed roleblock but they can backfire hard if the next person in the chain grabs something inconvenient.
Telehat is like a last resort cop pick because the amount of possessed people is super rng, albeit I guess its useful to clear people as not possessed as well.
Eagle Mask seems like a very safe middle pick in this setup there was a bunch of them in the bag but they arent as interesting as say a ferrymans coin. Watchers being imo one of the strongest investigatives especially in a game with this many visitors should rate it higher than usual.
Item evaluation in response to Nictis's question; I don't think I see anything AI in this (part of why I'm not a huge fan of that question).
I don't think the uniqueness of the reasoning mattered so much as the strength of it, and the hole just kept getting dug deeper from my point of view. I think a single attempt to move the subject onwards or like actually answer the primary question (what have you done to contribute being the operative one here) rather than being evasive or hostile would've been enough for me.
Justifying suspicion on swarmingu.
I'm just kinda wondering right now how town v town this really is though, the nature of having two opposing scum teams leads me to wonder if there is some scum v scum going on here. I actually don't like people posting about town v town stuff because they're glossing over that point a lot. I'm not sure how tight of a thing that people chasing tails is compared to normal.
Nictis is probably fishing for probabilities/how people would of used the later picks. It's a set of less 'interesting' items that probably are glossed over by the early picks in favor of the more big ticket flashy and powerful items.
I'm kind of uncomfortable disclosing more of my thoughts on this line as it gets very close to more uncomfortable amounts of info leaking - at least this much can be obfusciated and the trend in picks is fairly easy to reason out assuming you aren't in approximately the first 3-4 picks.
Skepticism of Byzantine's "Town v. Town" theory, plus an explanation of why Nictis's question might have been structured the way it was.
I actually mostly agree, if anyone info leaked picking those items to discuss it would've been Nictis or Myself who leaked at all anyways, and I would say both of us conciously chose that and if anything me pointing it out was probably more likely to cause the problem than Nictis asking.
This is in agreement with Nictis that my concerns about his question being leak-bait are probably overblown.
Kinda but not really.
No I'm not trying to be difficult intentionally.
In response to "are you new." No meaningful content.
What is the line you'd pick to vote somebody, because honestly I think with anything less than like 4-6 hours left the bar is pretty low on D1 for what I'd consider voting, like honestly I think I find this kinda wishy-washy which I don't think is like super scummy (yet) but that was awfully quick to back off and be defensive instead of say holding your ground and trying to dig for something.
In regard to meso being somewhat non-committal about his vote on me.
I'm gonna practice what a I preach
[X]Vote Happery
I think the interesting things in the last 24 odd hours are the Nictis post which you replied to, and Meso and Wiadi - do you think these things are interesting and if you do can you give some reasoning?
Trying to prompt activity again with directed questioning.
I'm kinda lurking in thread while chilling alone at the office, I'm keeping my vote right where it is for now for the same reason as BB.
I'm okay with an inactive lynch, I think a No Lynch should at least be considered as well, there are more than enough night actions that some information will be generated regardless and it might be worth the padding if KP starts flying around that losing a townie to a wild guess of a lynch might be sub-optimal, the only thing is it denies us some voting pattern info.
If forced to pick between Wiadi and Ondine I think I'd pick Ondine but I'm hesitant on both. Albeit Ondine's play kinda reminds me of Aetherial, I actually largely agree that her posts were to a degree twisted up and I certainly think getting heated was real but I wonder how much of the initial responses might've been played up a touch.
Wiadi's usually pretty clever though, which alone is enough that I really want to think hard over what's gone on so far, on one hand I'm usually not super hot on list reads but the point about Tykan might be worth looking into either way to see if it's got some substance or a deflection.
This one postdates my reads list & makes me somewhat more suspicious, given that inactivity votes and no-kill votes both provide Scum with cover and are normally not a great move D1 (when generating information is paramount), but OTOH this is a weird game so it's not as immediate of a red flag as it otherwise would be.
I think Nictis is fine (for now) because he's making people incredibly paranoid rather than just annoyed.
The latter causes a lot more chaos than the former and leads to more people tunneling on him for much less gain.
Two-parter effectively, arguing that Nictis provoking suspicion rather than massive fights is better for Town (and means Nictis isn't actually sus?).
