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LokiQuest: Re-Reshape and Retry (CK2)

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Darkcore41 said:
We don't actually have to ask to take our stuff. Just have the Chitari teleport them off planet. Also have the Chitari fight the robot and teleport Sigyn.

Have one Chitari come to Loki to test the formula on to see the side effects.
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Technically at the very least the Cloning Facility has been used to clone more Jotun to help with the population, so this is to make sure they don't kick up a fuss about Loki just up and beaming them out and it also prevents unfortunate accidents from occuring like a bunch of Jotun being halfway cloned when the facility is beamed away, or Jotun workers still being in facility.

Also testing a bunch of chaos stuff on someone else won't have the same effects on Loki, because it's chaos stuff. Also don't want the effects to potentially go through the whole hivemind schtick. :p
DreamCWeaver said:
Personally I'd also specify the records of those things and the satellite fortress.
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... there's a Satellite Fortress? What does it do, and what does it contribute to Jotunheim if you don't mind me asking (bit out of the loop, usually don't vote in this thread)? o_O
Sanas22 said:
A 300+ Martial body?

Fam, why don't we make ourselves that body if we can.

Also how are you planning to get hold of Thor and ask him to switch bodies?
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It doesn't need to be an enhanced body, just his body cloned from some young adulthood DNA or something like that. Better than having no body at all and it'll probably help his mental faculties and all that by virtue of not being a bodiless ghost for decades on end.

EDIT: If he wants a body he'll come and get it himself, or Loki would tell him next time he pops up.
 
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Enetious said:
Technically at the very least the Cloning Facility has been used to clone more Jotun to help with the population, so this is to make sure they don't kick up a fuss about Loki just up and beaming them out and it also prevents unfortunate accidents from occuring like a bunch of Jotun being halfway cloned when the facility is beamed away, or Jotun workers still being in facility.

Also testing a bunch of chaos stuff on someone else won't have the same effects on Loki, because it's chaos stuff. Also don't want the effects to potentially go through the whole hivemind schtick. :p

... there's a Satellite Fortress? What does it do, and what does it contribute to Jotunheim if you don't mind me asking (bit out of the loop, usually don't vote in this thread)? o_O

It doesn't need to be an enhanced body, just his body cloned from some young adulthood DNA or something like that. Better than having no body at all and it'll probably help his mental faculties and all that by virtue of not being a bodiless ghost for decades on end.
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The satallite fortress is PF property, also just have the Chitari deal with the robot and teleporting Sigyn.
 
Enetious said:
Technically at the very least the Cloning Facility has been used to clone more Jotun to help with the population, so this is to make sure they don't kick up a fuss about Loki just up and beaming them out and it also prevents unfortunate accidents from occuring like a bunch of Jotun being halfway cloned when the facility is beamed away, or Jotun workers still being in facility.

Also testing a bunch of chaos stuff on someone else won't have the same effects on Loki, because it's chaos stuff. Also don't want the effects to potentially go through the whole hivemind schtick. :p

... there's a Satellite Fortress? What does it do, and what does it contribute to Jotunheim if you don't mind me asking (bit out of the loop, usually don't vote in this thread)? o_O

It doesn't need to be an enhanced body, just his body cloned from some young adulthood DNA or something like that. Better than having no body at all and it'll probably help his mental faculties and all that by virtue of not being a bodiless ghost for decades on end.
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No clue, but it is awesome and Ryt's vibrated happily upon seeing it. All I do know is it has Wi-Fi probably, a laser and is heavily defended.
 
Darkcore41 said:
The satallite fortress is PF property, also just have the Chitari deal with the robot and teleporting Sigyn.
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Yeeaah, no. Loki cares much more for Sigyn than you're wanting to have him act, and it literally costs Loki nothing and barely any time at all to pop in and take care of things to help out the love of his life.
DreamCWeaver said:
No clue, but it is awesome and Ryt's vibrated happily upon seeing it. All I do know is it has Wi-Fi probably, a laser and is heavily defended.
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If it's PF property, then we could just beam it away to wherever we want, whenever we want, right? It's also not like the Jotuns have a stake in it like the Cloning Facility.
 
Enetious said:
Yeeaah, no. Loki cares much more for Sigyn than you're wanting to have him act, and it literally costs Loki nothing and barely any time at all to pop in and take care of things to help out the love of his life.

If it's PF property, then we could just beam it away to wherever we want, whenever we want, right? It's also not like the Jotuns have a stake in it like the Cloning Facility.
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Idk, all I remember us it was made to help the defense of Jotunheim. It's owner ship is unknown to me. The real shame is the fact you just super boosted that scientist. Maybe uh....give Ryt a boost... please.
 
DreamCWeaver said:
Idk, all I remember us it was made to help the defense of Jotunheim. It's owner ship is unknown to me. The real shame is the fact you just super boosted that scientist. Maybe uh....give Ryt a boost... please.
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Hm, I'll just take Darkcore41 at their word that it's PF-owned, as it's not like I've been following along outside of the actual story. :p

Er- does something in my vote result in super-boosting some random scientist or something? Or were you referring to someone else?
 
Darkcore41 said:
Really Red pot calling the kettle black, considering you don't accept your mistakes. You always go full Opera and ignores when it blows up in your face. I left you alone for this turn and look how well that did. We all agreed at the time to move the Jotuns regardless of calling Amora or not. Their issue is the adaptoids and the move which would have happened regardless. The climate thing was an communication mistake. It was never meant to be the climate and you know that. You also conveniently forget about the surrounding circumstances of those choices. We were trying to get Sigyn our of a Dark elf invasion. Which was Justified considering in one time line she died.

Second you are literally to blame for Lorelei and our inability to deal with her. Any failsafe for her you would freak and say it's player bias. Now look at what happened with that. We basically lost everything outside of Asgard to NC.

Third it was you and very few others that wished to be in charge of Jotunheim in the first place. Even when people outright pointed out the issues that we are now suffering from.

Edit: When someone even suggests that Loki needs to be stronger you reject the idea. Now look at that we no longer have the force to subdue them.
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*Personally admits that they can and have made mistakes and even points out to an example. Guy with an inability to admit that they can make mistake accuses me of doing what he is accusing me of*

...Yeah, not helping your case with the whole trying to deflect blame thing.

1) The habit thing was a colossal mistake that could have been avoided with as repeatedly pointed out just getting her a freaking artifact with even 3 points of magic put in for cold immunity. Even then you didn't think to confirm things with the QM before making a write in and didn't even bother to change it when the QM revealed the insanely high DC and that it's was pretty much impossible to do. Not helped that you had it put in twice and still didn't change it when the QM revealed the DC. Worse that it was pointless in that Sigyn was invited to the party and would have showed up anyway even if she was on Jotunheim.

You screwed up here.

2) The heck you talking about in regards to Lorelai? She was pretty much doing her own thing until she got the Infinity Stones.

3) Don't see the issue with taking control of Jotunheim. The isssue was that we made some serious mistakes of which two you had a major hand in by coming up with the plans that lead to said mistakes that could have easily been avoided.

4) I have no issue with Loki getting stronger.
 
Kufufu said:
Dont give them the chance to refuse you, just take your stuff and leave.
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I mean, it's either they accept, they refuse and keep Loki on as King, or they propose something else. Plus it's not like they value those things all too much; the only thing that they would kinda value is the cloning facility, but only kinda, and Loki does in fact need that to live, so I think they'll probably accept those terms.
 
Enetious said:
I mean, it's either they accept, they refuse and keep Loki on as King, or they propose something else. Plus it's not like they value those things all too much; the only thing that they would kinda value is the cloning facility, but only kinda, and Loki does in fact need that to live, so I think they'll probably accept those terms.
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We should send the Chitari in first just in case this is a trap. Also why can't we just have the Chitari teleport her to Loki. For all we know we go there and the robot self destructs when we defeat it.

Edit: It's the safest way to handle the situation.
 
Enetious said:
I mean, it's either they accept, they refuse and keep Loki on as King, or they propose something else. Plus it's not like they value those things all too much; the only thing that they would kinda value is the cloning facility, but only kinda, and Loki does in fact need that to live, so I think they'll probably accept those terms.
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I kinda agree with Kufufu here. Don't give them time to think, One of them already has Prophecy Magic at 20. So seeing things coming there way... It should be easy for them.
Leave Jotunheim, and have Chitauri take the forge and cloning facility and whatever big resources we have on Jotunheim to.... @Kufufu you have a place in mind?

Darkcore41 said:
We should send the Chitari in first just in case this is a trap. Also why can't we just have the Chitari teleport her to Loki. For all we know we go there and the robot self destructs when we defeat it.

Edit: It's the safest way to handle the situation.
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The last place she is safe is with Loki 'one-soul-punch-and-i-am-out-of-this-body' Badrollson.
 
Should note that the forge and cloning facilities are literally Loki's property since he used personal actions and resources to make them. So there shouldn't be any issue with Loki just taking them.
 
Sanas22 said:
I kinda agree with Kufufu here. Don't give them time to think, One of them already has Prophecy Magic at 20. So seeing things coming there way... It should be easy for them.
Leave Jotunheim, and have Chitauri take the forge and cloning facility and whatever big resources we have on Jotunheim to.... @Kufufu you have a place in mind?


The last place she is safe is with Loki 'one-soul-punch-and-i-am-out-of-this-body' Badrollson.
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We have Pluto but Thor would probably wreck us. Placing it in Asgard is probably all we can do.
 
Darkcore41 said:
We should send the Chitari in first just in case this is a trap. Also why can't we just have the Chitari teleport her to Loki. For all we know we go there and the robot self destructs when we defeat it.

Edit: It's the safest way to handle the situation.
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Who said anything about Loki destroying the robot? Now that you mention it, we could probably pop in, teleport Sigyn out, and then send in the Chitauri to fight the robot. Or just teleport in with the Chitauri while Loki teleports Sigyn out of there. It'll be kinda weird though considering in the last vote Loki voted not to bring any Chitauri to Asgard.

Anyways, edited my vote. :)
 
Sanas22 said:
Asgard it is. Also.... The Amora situation.... I reckon bringing in more magic won't be helpful... At all.

So where do you reckon the Chitauri go?
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I'd agree but chaos has already been added to the mix. Next time maybe you guys listen take in consideration to my advice. Alright I'm done, that was my last nod at that. For now.
 
[X] Plan: Power hungry.
-[X] Take the serum
-[X] Step down
--[X] Turn off their exo suits and then snap the necks of the traitors.
-[X] Go to Asgard
--[X] But you're saving Sigyn first; have Egil bring you to her location and prepare for combat and the possibility of needing to exfiltrate her via willing teleportation if she's really in trouble

DreamCWeaver said:
Cause everyone follows Kufufu and ignores whatever I try to do to help.
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I just didnt agree with the council.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Black King on Feb 25, 2020 at 9:52 AM, finished with 58 posts and 5 votes.
  • [X] Plan Hey, Let's Save The Love Of Loki's Life, Why Don't We?
    -[X] Step down and take your stuff with you, particularly the things you need (e.g. the Forge and the Cloning Facility)
    -[X] Keep it for a better time
    -[X] Go to Asgard
    --[X] But you're saving Sigyn first; have Egil bring you to her location and prepare for combat and the possibility of needing to exfiltrate her via willing teleportation if she's really in trouble
    [X] Step down
    -[X] Though on the condition that for the moment a council rules until a child of yours claims the throne. The child will have to gain the approval of the council and will be born and raised on Jotunheim while having contact with Loki and other members of his family on Asgard to have better relations with Asgard and Jotunheim.
    [X] Keep it for a better time.
    [X] Go to Asgard
    [X] Plan Hey, Let's Save The Love Of Loki's Life, Why Don't We?
    -[X] Step down and inform him that you'll be taking your stuff with you, particularly the things you need (e.g. the Forge and the Cloning Facility)
    --[X] Don't be rude about it, and if he protests bring up the fact that these things haven't been of much value to Jotunheim outside of your own use, and the only thing that's had some sort of limited impact (the Cloning Facility) you require to live, not to mention the fact that you used your own personal resources to construct them
    -[X] Keep it for a better time
    -[X] Go to Asgard
    --[X] But you're saving Sigyn first; have Egil bring you to her location and prepare for combat and the possibility of needing to exfiltrate her via willing teleportation if she's really in trouble
    ---[X] Have some of your Chitauri teleport in to combat the robot while you focus on getting Sigyn out of harm's way
    [X] Plan: Power hungry.
    -[X] Take the serum
    -[X] Step down
    --[X] Turn off their exo suits and then snap the necks of the traitors.
    -[X] Go to Asgard
    --[X] But you're saving Sigyn first; have Egil bring you to her location and prepare for combat and the possibility of needing to exfiltrate her via willing teleportation if she's really in trouble
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[X] Plan Hey, Let's Save The Love Of Loki's Life, Why Don't We?
-[X] Step down and inform him that you'll be taking your stuff with you, particularly the things you need (e.g. the Forge and the Cloning Facility)
--[X] Don't be rude about it, and if he protests bring up the fact that these things haven't been of much value to Jotunheim outside of your own use, and the only thing that's had some sort of limited impact (the Cloning Facility) you require to live, not to mention the fact that you used your own personal resources to construct them
-[X] Keep it for a better time
-[X] Go to Asgard
--[X] But you're saving Sigyn first; have Egil bring you to her location and prepare for combat and the possibility of needing to exfiltrate her via willing teleportation if she's really in trouble
---[X] Have some of your Chitauri teleport in to combat the robot while you focus on getting Sigyn out of harm's way

Almost missed that, but vote changed
 
[X] Plan Hey, Let's Save The Love Of Loki's Life, Why Don't We?
-[X] Step down and inform him that you'll be taking your stuff with you, particularly the things you need (e.g. the Forge and the Cloning Facility)
--[X] Don't be rude about it, and if he protests bring up the fact that these things haven't been of much value to Jotunheim outside of your own use, and the only thing that's had some sort of limited impact (the Cloning Facility) you require to live, not to mention the fact that you used your own personal resources to construct them
-[X] Keep it for a better time
-[X] Go to Asgard
--[X] But you're saving Sigyn first; have Egil bring you to her location and prepare for combat and the possibility of needing to exfiltrate her via willing teleportation if she's really in trouble
---[X] Have some of your Chitauri teleport in to combat the robot while you focus on getting Sigyn out of harm's way
 
Should we collapse Jotunheims economy secretly? It's possible considering things like that is done to countries irl and it should count as a stewardship action.
 
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