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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%

  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%
  • Total voters
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Moist Bread said:
I don't understand why we have to design a Warhound Titan. I thought we already had designed a Warhound pattern
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most of the time you want more then one design...is what I'm thinking....but I would think it would be even easier since 90+% of it has already been designed AND upgraded....so it should be even easier then when tranth had old-warhounds to work with.
 
BTW: I'd support doing a divination+arbtres action on tranth as one of our most valuable learning paragon's, he is very important to our long term growth AND, him turning when we don't expect it can REALLY hurt us since it might give the conservatives a windfall big enough to not even NEED to rebel....and this time we won't have lin around to force them to see that we are not evil AND acknowledge the truth that we need to work together.

us knowing ahead of time might give us the chance to minimze the impact by a pretty large margin.
 
Moist Bread said:
I don't understand why we have to design a Warhound Titan. I thought we already had designed a Warhound pattern
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IIRC Tranth only made the designs for the Warlord pattern using the DAoT tech we found. We have the patterns for all the other titans but they are original un upgraded designs created by the AdMech that lack the advanced tech and weapons we found on Avernus.
 
Dragon_352 said:
BTW: I'd support doing a divination+arbtres action on tranth as one of our most valuable learning paragon's, he is very important to our long term growth AND, him turning when we don't expect it can REALLY hurt us since it might give the conservatives a windfall big enough to not even NEED to rebel....and this time we won't have lin around to force them to see that we are not evil AND acknowledge the truth that we need to work together.

us knowing ahead of time might give us the chance to minimze the impact by a pretty large margin.
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I agree completely.
In fact, I would argue that we establish an automatic regimen where each of our main heroes is given a piece of the black crystal jewelry to test for chaotic corruption.
 
[X] Plan Nurgle T140

Munitorum [2 Years]
Slot A:
Y2: Recruit: Helguard

Void Command
Slot A
Y1: Combine Shipyards: Gargantuan


Adminstratum [3 Years]
Slot A
Y1: Expand (Mirkwood) to Small Hive
- - EXPEDITE YEAR 1
Slot B
Y3: Expand (Asmat) to Small Hive
- - EXPEDITE YEAR 3
Expand more cities to Hives


Diplomacy [5 Years]
Y1: ear to ground ( more information about the merger with dragon's nest)
Y2: Sound Out ( Divining Lancre location and bringing it here, if possible with a Eldar Favor)
Y3: New Lord-Marshal of the Aesir
Y4: Siren trade ( Trade for Runelords Training and City Warding)

Ok we need to find out more details about the High Council meeting and need to contact the high council before we talk to foreigners or do something that will draw attention to us.


Arbites [5 Years,]
Slot A
Y1: Counter intelligence
- - DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1
Y2-5: Greater Psyker Hunting
Doing 1 Counter Intelligence

Mechanicus
Slot A - Explorator
Y3: Titan Design: Avernus-Pattern Warhound Titan
I thought about it and if we complete the Large forge titan that is a titan a decade so Getting the warhound design is more preferable since it will have 71 chance of success

Slot B - Any, Fabricator-General
Y1: Another
Y2: Automate Another
Slot Any
Y3: Large Titan Manufactorum
Finish the mobile research building chain, so we can get it automated so we explore Avernus for penguins and black jewelry. With one more we will have enough so we can automate the process. which is good becasue the more we have the faster we can explore a area. We need a dozen of the platforms to explore the north Safely. The titan manufacturum is self explaining .

Telepathica

Slot A - Ridcully
Y3: Greater Divination (Chaos Ritual Details)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3 PLUS FREE DIVINATION FOR TRIPLE DOWN
Y4: Greater Divination (Location Of Lion El' Jonson)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
Y5: Focused Divination ( Admech civil war)

We need as much information about the ritual as possible so we can plan for it. We may not be able to stop it but we need to know if it is completely hopeless, and if it is the ritual would be a good chance to rescue Isha while chaos is distracted. The lion is well one of the worst primarchs at having social skills. He will never go to meet his brothers becasue he is ashamed, angry, and was kicked out of Secundus by Guilliman and SAnguinius for the horrible crimes he committed pursuing Konrad. He is a very ends justify the means kind of guy. Strange enough he would like Rotbart ruthless trait. I don't think the primarch destroyed Tuchulcha but kept It. for those of you who do not know it is a sapient device that allows precise warp jumps without the Astronomican. I think that is the way he is getting around and helping the assassins guild.

Slot B - Tamia
Y3: Implement (Rune of Protection)
Y5: Anti-Blood God Powers: Countering
- - DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 5
Doing the Rune becasue of Double down
Slot C - Aria
Y2: Create Psyker Order ( Bloom Bees)
Food and population growth always take front seat
Personal

Slot A
Y1: Advanced Power Armour: Helguard Trooper Regiments
SLot B
Y2: Construction Expertise (Expand and downgrade Forge-Hive: Erecura ) –
Slot C
Y1: Go Somewhere to grieve for SYR your beloved Daughter
Y2: Mending the Relationship (Apologize to Tormod for the things you said that you shouldn't have. Talk to him about his grandmother, about how badly it affected both you and Syr, how helpless it made you feel. You loved her too much to even consider remarrying. Part of you wants to respect her wishes with regards to succession, and another part of you is terrified of losing your connections to her. Syr's death brought a lot of that to the forefront of your mind, and you handled it badly. You're scared of losing Tormod too. You want him to be happy, to have a chance at a wife and children of his own. )
Y3-5: Gubernatorial Succession: Sound Out ( Munitorum, Heliem Void Command, Administratum)
We already know how the other worlds select their leaders. The way i see it The house of Rotbart or any Avernus Noble House can put forward a candidate than the Department Heads vote on the candidates. Also Department heads are eligible for election as Governor.

Ok here is the protoplan 3.0 will change depending on discussion . IF you have a suggestion please have a good reason why. I go to get some sleep.
 
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I just feel this needs to be said. If Tranth was corrupted, and he got that trait as a chaos blessing, we wouldn't know.

Like, ignoring his 18 Intrigue, which is some of the lowest in our entire Hero roster, and thus how we'd know pretty quickly if he tried to be sneaky, trait updates aren't normally automatic, y'know? Tranth could have just hidden this gained chaos blessing. Yet, he made us aware of his improvement on seeing past his own biases, somehow exceeding Intrigue on the high 40s in revealing it, but revealing it perfectly in the way he wants. Feel free to call me on this if somehow he does turn out to be chaotic, but this trait isn't even new to him, he's always been an incredibly unbiased person, this trait has just made it official.
 
Execute/Dumbo said:
I just feel this needs to be said. If Tranth was corrupted, and he got that trait as a chaos blessing, we wouldn't know.

Like, ignoring his 18 Intrigue, which is some of the lowest in our entire Hero roster, and thus how we'd know pretty quickly if he tried to be sneaky, trait updates aren't normally automatic, y'know? Tranth could have just hidden this gained chaos blessing. Yet, he made us aware of his improvement on seeing past his own biases, somehow exceeding Intrigue on the high 40s in revealing it, but revealing it perfectly in the way he wants. Feel free to call me on this if somehow he does turn out to be chaotic, but this trait isn't even new to him, he's always been an incredibly unbiased person, this trait has just made it official.
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Also Tranth would have had to hide his Corruption from the Paragon Diviner literally here.
 
So when is our group of basically pet aliens going to start contributing to our military. Also the Avernus pattern imperator Titan is going to be scary when ever we get around to building it.
 
Shard said:
Also Tranth would have had to hide his Corruption from the Paragon Diviner literally here.
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except that paragon diviner (I think hes actually transcendent???) has not actually actively looked at him just yet which significantly lowers the bar for what is required.

I could see a few possablitys:
1): he's corrupted and got the trait as a blessing/curse and through other means got a second one to help him hide it (does not need to be paragon level, just unnatually high intrigue as we have not actively searched him yet.)
2): he got tzeetched and doesn't even KNOW he is corrupted yet and his trait is tzeetch's blessing but with a hidden surprise for us or something similar.

I think if he passes EITHER of the actions with flying color (or just both moderately), we can assume he's good till more extreme variables come up.
give him the black grab with a few high-piety psykers nearby to stop a sudden tzeetch-plan to destory/steal/remove-them-from-the-game

course that brings up the possablity that we should look into rid's as well so we should do the same with him ....and everyone so........ I think the idea of automating this should be done if only for non-psykers.

but with pyskers I think we need to do it more carefully since I vaguely recall that psykers are actively harmed by the black crystal garb so they have to be given it for short enough periods that we compare how quickly they are harmed to a baseline of some sort. (the BC probably hurts chaos faster/more then non-chaos)
 
Dragon_352 said:
except that paragon diviner (I think hes actually transcendent???) has not actually actively looked at him just yet which significantly lowers the bar for what is required.

I could see a few possablitys:
1): he's corrupted and got the trait as a blessing/curse and through other means got a second one to help him hide it (does not need to be paragon level, just unnatually high intrigue as we have not actively searched him yet.)
2): he got tzeetched and doesn't even KNOW he is corrupted yet and his trait is tzeetch's blessing but with a hidden surprise for us or something similar.

I think if he passes EITHER of the actions with flying color (or just both moderately), we can assume he's good till more extreme variables come up.
give him the black grab with a few high-piety psykers nearby to stop a sudden tzeetch-plan to destory/steal/remove-them-from-the-game

course that brings up the possablity that we should look into rid's as well so we should do the same with him ....and everyone so........ I think the idea of automating this should be done if only for non-psykers.

but with pyskers I think we need to do it more carefully since I vaguely recall that psykers are actively harmed by the black crystal garb so they have to be given it for short enough periods that we compare how quickly they are harmed to a baseline of some sort. (the BC probably hurts chaos faster/more then non-chaos)
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No, our advisors get regular corruption checks already. We had an issue like this a while back with a Beta Diviner (who was a viable successor to Ridcully at the time) going chaotic, and if anything we've only refined the process now.
 
Dragon_352 said:
except that paragon diviner (I think hes actually transcendent???) has not actually actively looked at him just yet which significantly lowers the bar for what is required.

I could see a few possablitys:
1): he's corrupted and got the trait as a blessing/curse and through other means got a second one to help him hide it (does not need to be paragon level, just unnatually high intrigue as we have not actively searched him yet.)
2): he got tzeetched and doesn't even KNOW he is corrupted yet and his trait is tzeetch's blessing but with a hidden surprise for us or something similar.

I think if he passes EITHER of the actions with flying color (or just both moderately), we can assume he's good till more extreme variables come up.
give him the black grab with a few high-piety psykers nearby to stop a sudden tzeetch-plan to destory/steal/remove-them-from-the-game

course that brings up the possablity that we should look into rid's as well so we should do the same with him ....and everyone so........ I think the idea of automating this should be done if only for non-psykers.

but with pyskers I think we need to do it more carefully since I vaguely recall that psykers are actively harmed by the black crystal garb so they have to be given it for short enough periods that we compare how quickly they are harmed to a baseline of some sort. (the BC probably hurts chaos faster/more then non-chaos)
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The BCJ doesnt hurt psykers. It only hurts Chaos, Lin and possibly warp entities in general.
 
Moist Bread said:
So when is our group of basically pet aliens going to start contributing to our military. Also the Avernus pattern imperator Titan is going to be scary when ever we get around to building it.
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"basically pet aliens" is the kind of reference that got durin to WOG'd that our character thinks the same and gives us bad traits/allie-reactions as a result. (I believe durin has stated that quester-references to rotbarts wife(s) is part of why durin had that crit-fail end up like it did as well as part of why he got the "ruthless" trait....but maybe I did not follow the conversation on this correctly)

please avoid doing this needlessly.

otherwise, YES, I can't wait to get the imperator titan. hope we can make it extra-cool instead of just a "extra-heavy" titan-class. feel free to omake some cool ideas for them everyone! like, maybe they can carry some tech's that we normally use in starships or something? maybe we can put a psykic cannon on it's back and/or arm(s) once we do the fundlemental's needed for it (I don't think we have done that yet right?)
 
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Shard said:
The BCJ doesnt hurt psykers. It only hurts Chaos, Lin and possibly warp entities in general.
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Lin because of how the BCJ interacts with the soul, for anyone wondering. It wasn't that Lin was somehow Abomination corrupted all this time, it's just that his soul was already drastically overpowering his body and the BCJ drastically worsened the issue.
 
Execute/Dumbo said:
No, our advisors get regular corruption checks already. We had an issue like this a while back with a Beta Diviner (who was a viable successor to Ridcully at the time) going chaotic, and if anything we've only refined the process now.
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does that include using the black garb tho? cas I can see somebody being "sufficently sneaky" getting past those tests somehow or just bypassing them entirely (again, somehow).....but seeing somebody HOLD something that fundlementally hurts chaos makes it pretty easy to call them non-chaos almost regardless of intrigue (basically, I'm saying that what we do right now probalby can't beat the right paragon trait....but the divine-level arifact probably can't be fooled by anything short of a transcendent level trait AND is speced right.....or they find a way to bypass it somehow.)

seems easy enough to hand somebody something for a bit and move on, so seem's easy to do for all the *really* important people.
 
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If a world developed current Avernite level of anti-Chaos organization during the late Age of the Imperium, how would the Inquisition have reacted to it?
 
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[X] Plan Nurgle T140
random_npc said:
would someone voting for nugle say why they want to divine the lion?
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We need every Primarch we can get, and we have no reason to believe anyone knows where he is. When you have the Galaxy's strongest search tool, you do need to know if someone 'missing' is intentionally so. We have not been informed that they know where he is/what he is doing, so putting them in contact with one another may prove valuable.
 
Byzantine said:
[X] Plan Nurgle T140

We need every Primarch we can get, and we have no reason to believe anyone knows where he is. When you have the Galaxy's strongest search tool, you do need to know if someone 'missing' is intentionally so. We have not been informed that they know where he is/what he is doing, so putting them in contact with one another may prove valuable.
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We know he was picked up by someone he respected and went with them willingly. He's most likely about but moving quietly. If he's trying to keep hidden, then his location is need to know, and we do not need to know.
 
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