Xavier has a trait that gives him plus 10 to all research. That is why I said stats and traits give Xavier a better chance.
Failing counter frequencies without Saint line can go from insanity to demon real quick.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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Failing counter frequencies without Saint line can go from insanity to demon real quick.
Yeah and these is dealing with chaos. We can only do this research somewhat safely because Saint Lin's aura. Ridicully has the effects lessoned but again chaos is not something you mess around with.
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- western US
I thought the reason why we wanted xavior to do the research and not rids was because we need it to pass and xavior had a better pass rate.
what benifits do we get by having rids doing it instead?
what benifits do we get by having rids doing it instead?
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- Back in Cali
a very slight increase to Rid's ablitly to use it.
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- western US
ah,
seems like the comparison is between ++++chance of even getting the research (and likely having to wait a long time before being able to try again if failing due to lack of lin) vs +chance of rid/lin healing guilliman
not sure its worth switching since we might end up losing out on the slanesh research entirely since rid's might fail. depending on the relative chances involved here.
but I did see Durin noting in the discord that the increase that rid's gets for having done the research himself is very slight. so likely less then 5% at best....whats the chances of rid's completeing the research relative to xavier?
edit: seems like alot of the threads latest arguments have been lacking alot of number-citiations ( on both sides to be honest). And since the only people I am willing to trust to have even a idea of the numbers is the Enjou/shard/nurgle-crew I am not going to switch my vote. The burden of proof is on you to provide numbers that support your argument, those of you who want us to switch from the current plan.
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didn't durin say corax being present would not be much help? if we tell them it just means one of his brothers will be on hand to bring him up to speed.
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- western US
why is it only +5 if Xavier has +10 trait and better learning?
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
He's a bit better than the other options, and that's ignoring potential narrative benefits.
+ I'd say that having a fellow primarch present would be quite useful, if nothing else to stop him punching someone in the face when we try to shove a crown on his head.
Nianque
Verified Dragon
Ridcully is per word of Durin safe from normal Chaos meme stuff. That's his high piety, paragon trait, and the numerous anti-warp bonuses at work. I'd only be worried when it comes to him divining/research stuff that we know is paragon level or higher such as honored greaters or the primordial sea.
- Location
- United states
@Durin
1) Would it be possible to have Corvus replace Vlad as a wise man?
-1a) If so would it be likely to work better due to Corvus' connection to the Guilliman and the Emperor.
As mentioned since people were talking about inviting Corvus am wondering if he could be one of the 3 wise men for the ritual and if he would be better for narrative purposes. Something like:
1) The Healer
2) The Seer
3) The Saint
Having Corvus be the healer seems like it would make sense since he could do the neck wound and use the cure for the warp toxins on Guilliman.
1) Would it be possible to have Corvus replace Vlad as a wise man?
-1a) If so would it be likely to work better due to Corvus' connection to the Guilliman and the Emperor.
As mentioned since people were talking about inviting Corvus am wondering if he could be one of the 3 wise men for the ritual and if he would be better for narrative purposes. Something like:
1) The Healer
2) The Seer
3) The Saint
Having Corvus be the healer seems like it would make sense since he could do the neck wound and use the cure for the warp toxins on Guilliman.
- Location
- UK
In which case, if Corvus thinks the situation is as dire as you believe it is, he'd say no. Why are you opposed to giving him advance notice, and letting him decide for himself? Either the situation is dire, and he can't help us, in which case nothing changes, or he's able to help us without jeapordising the situation, and we have a better chance of healing Guilliman.
The only reason it would make sense not to ask him is if you think there'd be a better candidate for healing Guilliman. However, as you seem content to leave that to nameless background characters, rather than suggesting any other named character, that's obviously not the case.
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- Earth
Also, as I've said before, can we have Ridcully take the Y2 anti-Slaanesh countering power with a DD instead of Xavier? Xavier can still do something like anti-Abomination banishing.
Ridcully is not going to run into issues with finding counter-frequencies after Lin dies. That man is a control, power, and piety paragon, and he has survived and remained sane after entering and leaving the realms of no less than three Chaos Gods. That should say something about Ridcully's resistance to Chaos corruption.
Ridcully is not going to run into issues with finding counter-frequencies after Lin dies. That man is a control, power, and piety paragon, and he has survived and remained sane after entering and leaving the realms of no less than three Chaos Gods. That should say something about Ridcully's resistance to Chaos corruption.
I have to agree with Ptolemy, we can't make Corvus do anything. If he thinks that it is a good use of his time to help, than I am inclined to agree.
The only cost we should concern ourselves with is the opportunity cost of not using that diplomacy action on something else.
The only cost we should concern ourselves with is the opportunity cost of not using that diplomacy action on something else.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Thoughts on the next quest system:
* Durin has mentioned Expedite become -25% (round up) - This makes it actually worthwhile again.
* I imagine most of the cheaper actions outright becoming free, and if they have a success chance, be bumped up by a flat 20%. Instead Research will simply be folded into upkeep.
* Durin has mentioned 4 Free slots.
Own thoughts:
* Void Command and Munitorum might be folded together - Removing 1 Munitorum action to have Helguard/Helltrooper/PDF expansions be automatically done is in the works. Or not.
* Diplomacy might be it's own thing instead of a 5 year section. We would get to write-in up to perhaps 3 (or 5 I guess) things to do and focus at a turn.
* Arbites may lose Psyker Hunting and Counter-Intelligence, representing the fact that Jane does them all the time.
* Adminstratum could automatically do Hive Expansion actions. -1 Action in exchange.
* Ministorum might just be eliminated, what with not having a Saint to do all the current Ministorum Actions. It also overlaps a lot with Arbites.
* Personal is Eliminated, replaced with 4 Free Actions.
* Void Command Construction Action is Automatic and simply builds based on priorities and plans Players have set.
* 10 Year turns?
So a turn vote might be like this:
Munitorum: 2 Actions (Military Expansions Done Automatically)
Void Command: 2 Actions (Construction Done Automatically)
Adminstratum: 2 Actions (Hive Construction Done Automatically)
Diplomacy: Special
Arbites: -
Mechanicus: 4 Actions
Ministorum: -
Telepathica: 4 Actions (& Greater Div)
Free Actions: 4
Total: 18 Actions per Turn + Diplomacy Votes (Currently: 25+1 Actions per Turn)
* Durin has mentioned Expedite become -25% (round up) - This makes it actually worthwhile again.
* I imagine most of the cheaper actions outright becoming free, and if they have a success chance, be bumped up by a flat 20%. Instead Research will simply be folded into upkeep.
* Durin has mentioned 4 Free slots.
Own thoughts:
* Void Command and Munitorum might be folded together - Removing 1 Munitorum action to have Helguard/Helltrooper/PDF expansions be automatically done is in the works. Or not.
* Diplomacy might be it's own thing instead of a 5 year section. We would get to write-in up to perhaps 3 (or 5 I guess) things to do and focus at a turn.
* Arbites may lose Psyker Hunting and Counter-Intelligence, representing the fact that Jane does them all the time.
* Adminstratum could automatically do Hive Expansion actions. -1 Action in exchange.
* Ministorum might just be eliminated, what with not having a Saint to do all the current Ministorum Actions. It also overlaps a lot with Arbites.
* Personal is Eliminated, replaced with 4 Free Actions.
* Void Command Construction Action is Automatic and simply builds based on priorities and plans Players have set.
* 10 Year turns?
So a turn vote might be like this:
Munitorum: 2 Actions (Military Expansions Done Automatically)
Void Command: 2 Actions (Construction Done Automatically)
Adminstratum: 2 Actions (Hive Construction Done Automatically)
Diplomacy: Special
Arbites: -
Mechanicus: 4 Actions
Ministorum: -
Telepathica: 4 Actions (& Greater Div)
Free Actions: 4
Total: 18 Actions per Turn + Diplomacy Votes (Currently: 25+1 Actions per Turn)