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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

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@Durin, is it possible to summon one's own inner daemons into reality and then permakill them with, for example, the black crystal sword or the Holocaust power?
 
Ulrad said:
@Enerael Is there a way for you to get the Master Channeling runes on the Primaris psykers? Because I get the feeling that will be a big boost across basically all our choirs, Execution forces and general deployments. Maybe remove the Luck rune from Last Hunters since they cost 30,000 credits and are honestly overkill for what we need from them when those could instead be spent on improving other units with higher quality runes or additional ones.
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Feel free to make a variant with it, all you need is to take away Luck Runes from Last Hunters.

I went with Luck because our Last Hunters do the most critical missions where we really would want a reroll if it goes badly, and to stack multipliers.

But giving our best psykers Masterwork Channeling is entirely valid too. Just not what I went with.

Reminder: Approval voting exists (praised be Xon). You can vote for multiple plans.
 
@Durin

1. do the last hunters have a rune type they think would be most beneficial to their work?
2. do the last hunters have a rune type they think would be least beneficial to their work?
 
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Huh it does take it.
Adhoc vote count started by Nurgle on May 1, 2019 at 12:03 PM, finished with 226 posts and 39 votes.
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Alright, here goes I guess. it's 95% the same as Enerael's plan but it strips out the Luck rune from Last Hunters and the apprentice Damage rune for battalion champions to save 36,000 credits. Those credits are used to give the Last Hunters Journeyman runes of Piercing and Banishment to deal with summoned demons/Daemon Princes/extremely heavily armored targets (the kind we want gone the most) keeping in mind that you need extreme AP to deal full damage to those kinds of targets, and upgrading the Channeling runes on all Primaris and Grandmaster battle psykers to Master in order to give our Psyker units like Choirs and Execution Forces a great increase in power and increased ability to support our regular forces an influence the battlefield. There are 1450 credits left to distribute if anybody knows a good place.

EDIT: Swapped out the Journeyman rune on Regimental champions from Piercing to Damage at Enerael's suggestion, which frees up enough to return the Battalion Champion damage rune.

[X] Plan Unlimited Powah

Heroes (*1)
*Master Runes (Piercing, Damage, Channeling, Banishment)
*Master Runes (Toughness, Warding, Luck)

Last Hunters (*15)
*Master Runes (Damage)
*Journeyman Runes (Piercing, Banishment)
*Master Runes (Toughness, Warding)

Grandmaster Psyker and Witch Hunters (*25)
*Master Runes (Banishment)
*Master Runes (Toughness, Warding)

Primaris and Grandmaster Battle Psykers (*100)
*Master Runes (Channeling)
*Journeyman Runes (Toughness, Warding)

Life Guard (*200)
*Journeyman Runes (Damage)
*Journeyman Runes (Toughness, Warding)

Master Battle Psyker and Witch Hunter (*500)
*Journeyman Runes (Banishment)
*Apprentice Runes (Toughness, Warding)

Helguard Regimental Champions (*600)
*Journeyman Runes (Damage)
*Apprentice Runes (Toughness, Warding)

Master Battle Psykers (*1000)
*Apprentice Runes (Toughness, Warding)
*Apprentice Runes (Damage)

Helguard Battalion Champions (*6 000)
*Apprentice Runes (Damage)
 
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Ulrad said:
[X] Plan Unlimited Powah
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If you drop Last hunters Piercing (frees up 2 550 cr) and switch regimental champions AP rune to Damage (3 000 cr) (Edit: Oops, its 6 000 cr) you will have 7 000 cr 10 000 cr free, enough to equip battalion champions with Damage.

Edit: Or to upgrade Banishment to Masterworks. Or if you drop Piercing instead you can upgrade Banishment.

Last Hunters already have absurd AP, situations in which they need even more are very rare and could be solved by Vortex Grenades and Shield Breaker Rounds I believe.

Its not a very good idea to pair Masterwork waepon runes with Journeyman It hink, as doing so multiplies the cost of the Masterworks for the much lesser benefit of a Journeyman rune. Though there are exceptions probably.


[X] Plan Unlimited Powah

[X] Plan Rune Up!

Heroes (*1)
*Master Runes (Piercing, Damage, Channeling, Banishment)
*Master Runes (Toughness, Warding, Luck)

Last Hunters (*15)
*Master Runes (Damage)
*Master Runes (Toughness, Warding, Luck)

Grandmaster Psyker and Witch Hunters (*25)
*Master Runes (Banishment)
*Master Runes (Toughness, Warding)

Primaris and Grandmaster Battle Psykers (*100)
*Journeyman Runes (Channeling)
*Journeyman Runes (Toughness, Warding)

Life Guard (*200)
*Journeyman Runes (Damage)
*Journeyman Runes (Toughness, Warding)

Master Battle Psyker and Witch Hunter (*500)
*Journeyman Runes (Banishment)
*Apprentice Runes (Toughness, Warding)

Helguard Regimental Champions (*600)
*Journeyman Runes (Piercing)
*Apprentice Runes (Toughness, Warding)

Master Battle Psykers (*1000)
*Apprentice Runes (Damage)
*Apprentice Runes (Toughness, Warding)

Helguard Battalion Champions (*6 000)
*Apprentice Runes (Damage)
 
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Enerael said:
Its not a very good idea to pair Masterwork waepon runes with Journeyman It hink, as doing so multiplies the cost of the Masterworks for the much lesser benefit of a Journeyman rune. Though there are exceptions probably.
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Usually I'd agree, in this case I did it because Damage, Pen and Banish cost 5850 while only Damage and Pen cost 3600. I figured that getting a big bonus to AP was worth the extra 2350 credits, especially if there is a chance it is a % increase. Upgrading Banishment to Master would cost 6K total so while definitely viable I still prefer the AP bonus to deal with things like Warbosses, Dreadnaughts, Chaos Champions with enchanted terminator armor, etc over the extra banishment since that only applies to very specific targets.
Switching from AP to Damage on the regimental champions is a good call though, and the switch alone saves 6K, which is exactly the cost of the apprentice runes on Battalion Champions so nothing else would need to be changed.
 
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