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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Investigate the Sea?

  • Yes

    Votes: 593 80.4%

  • No

    Votes: 145 19.6%
  • Total voters
    738
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Voting for Julius because we need every single personal action slot we can get for implementing the new tech. Subject to change once we get an answer from Durin.

[X] Support Chapter Master Julius (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the great experience of Chapter Master Julius makes him the best high commander.
 
[] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance
[] Deploy sixteen Guard Armour Groups and ten Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a massive boost to the ground defences, but major losses would be sorely felt(35% of all Guard, 100% of all elites)- 11% base chance
I definitely want to vote for one of these 2. I just don't think sending a weak force would be beneficial. Personally I prefer the option of sending all the elites that we can. Our elites are very very good, and it seems likely to me that they could hold worlds against massive enemy threats. Issue is that its got a low percentage chance to get accepted, and that losing our elites would be really freaking bad. I just don't expect to lose them in massive numbers. That could easily be hubris talking though.

[] Attempt to claim the position yourself (66% chance, diplomacy check (DC 75) increase chanced )- You believe that you would be the best choice as High Commander, and are willing to devote the time that will be needed to fill this position.
[] Support Chapter Master Julius (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the great experience of Chapter Master Julius makes him the best high commander.
[] Support Autarch Amnedor Landeer (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the experience at larger scale conflicts that Autarch Landeer posseses makes him the best high commander.
Here I'm kinda split between the Autarch and Rotbart. The Autarch is apparently really good at exactly the kind of thing we are trying to do. On the other hand, Rotbart is just absurdly good at all things martial. Even with his -4 to naval. And boosting his stats even higher by putting him in charge of this would be extremely nice. On the mutant third hand, Julius has his troops reroll 1s. Which... is kinda absurdly good, and apparently isn't even a paragon trait?
 
[X] Support Chapter Master Julius (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the great experience of Chapter Master Julius makes him the best high commander.
[X] Deploy thirteen PDF Army Groups, twelve Guard Armour Groups and one Elite Army Group- These forces should provide a boost to the ground defences, while being replaceable even if massive losses are sustained (2% of all PDF, 25% of all Guard, 10% of all elites) -21% base chance

Going with these two Julius is just as good and will not cost us our actions and it is also the best possible way to push him to a breakthrough if we succeed in our goals for this stage of the war.

At least until we get that write-in option to decide depending on the Necron's action.
 
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Durin said:
The Autarch has the most experience at grand command in your gathered forces, and is renowned for his ability to coordinate wars over entire sectors at a time.
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Check. Guess what war is going to be over an entire sector?

[X] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance
[X] Support Autarch Amnedor Landeer (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the experience at larger scale conflicts that Autarch Landeer posseses makes him the best high commander.
-[X] Amnedor's experience in coordinating sector-wide war will be the most sorely needed capability in containing the Tyranids.
 
[X] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance
[X] Support Autarch Amnedor Landeer (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the experience at larger scale conflicts that Autarch Landeer posseses makes him the best high commander.
-[X] Amnedor's experience in coordinating sector-wide war will be the most sorely needed capability in containing the Tyranids.
 
[X] Support Autarch Amnedor Landeer (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the experience at larger scale conflicts that Autarch Landeer posseses makes him the best high commander.
-[X] Amnedor's experience in coordinating sector-wide war will be the most sorely needed capability in containing the Tyranids.
 
[X] Deploy thirteen PDF Army Groups, twelve Guard Armour Groups and one Elite Army Group- These forces should provide a boost to the ground defences, while being replaceable even if massive losses are sustained (2% of all PDF, 25% of all Guard, 10% of all elites) -21% base chance
[X] Attempt to claim the position yourself (66% chance, diplomacy check (DC 75) increase chanced )- You believe that you would be the best choice as High Commander, and are willing to devote the time that will be needed to fill this position.
 
[X] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance
[X] Attempt to claim the position yourself (66% chance, diplomacy check (DC 75) increase chanced )- You believe that you would be the best choice as High Commander, and are willing to devote the time that will be needed to fill this position.

@Durin, will xenophoby create any maluses if Autarch is put in command? Better to know that for sure.
 
[X] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance
[X] Support Autarch Amnedor Landeer (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the experience at larger scale conflicts that Autarch Landeer posseses makes him the best high commander.
-[X] Amnedor's experience in coordinating sector-wide war will be the most sorely needed capability in containing the Tyranids.
 
[X] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance

[X] Support Autarch Amnedor Landeer (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the experience at larger scale conflicts that Autarch Landeer posseses makes him the best high commander.
-[X] Amnedor's experience in coordinating sector-wide war will be the most sorely needed capability in containing the Tyranids.
 
[X] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance
[X] Support Autarch Amnedor Landeer (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the experience at larger scale conflicts that Autarch Landeer posseses makes him the best high commander.
-[X] Amnedor's experience in coordinating sector-wide war will be the most sorely needed capability in containing the Tyranids.
 
Durin said:
you are one of the most gifted military commanders that humanity has ever produced, counted on the same breath as legends like Lord Solar Macharius and Lord Castellan Ursarkar Creed.
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Wait a fucking moment. We're considered to be on par with Creed? Like, I know we're good, but not hide a titan behind a shrub good. Right?
 
[X] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance
[X] Support Autarch Amnedor Landeer (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the experience at larger scale conflicts that Autarch Landeer posseses makes him the best high commander.
-[X] Amnedor's experience in coordinating sector-wide war will be the most sorely needed capability in containing the Tyranids.
 
[X] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance
[X] Attempt to claim the position yourself (66% chance, diplomacy check (DC 75) increase chanced )- You believe that you would be the best choice as High Commander, and are willing to devote the time that will be needed to fill this position.
Adhoc vote count started by Kolekzionera on Apr 8, 2019 at 2:05 AM, finished with 61 posts and 18 votes.
  • [X] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance
    [X] Support Autarch Amnedor Landeer (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the experience at larger scale conflicts that Autarch Landeer posseses makes him the best high commander.
    -[X] Amnedor's experience in coordinating sector-wide war will be the most sorely needed capability in containing the Tyranids.
    [X] Attempt to claim the position yourself (66% chance, diplomacy check (DC 75) increase chanced )- You believe that you would be the best choice as High Commander, and are willing to devote the time that will be needed to fill this position.
    [X] Deploy thirteen PDF Army Groups, twelve Guard Armour Groups and one Elite Army Group- These forces should provide a boost to the ground defences, while being replaceable even if massive losses are sustained (2% of all PDF, 25% of all Guard, 10% of all elites) -21% base chance
    [X] Attempt to claim the position yourself
    [X] Support Chapter Master Julius (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the great experience of Chapter Master Julius makes him the best high commander.
    [X] Deploy sixteen Guard Armour Groups and ten Elite Army Groups
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Crafter of War said:
Wait a fucking moment. We're considered to be on par with Creed? Like, I know we're good, but not hide a titan behind a shrub good. Right?
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martial paragons are rare and big deals. creed was one with an ambush focus, we're one with a deployment focus. Creed was "how the fuck did a warlord titan sneak up on us?" we're "how the fuck does he always have the perfect counter already set up?"
 
random_npc said:
martial paragons are rare and big deals. creed was one with an ambush focus, we're one with a deployment focus. Creed was "how the fuck did a warlord titan sneak up on us?" we're "how the fuck does he always have the perfect counter already set up?"
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To put it more formally, Creed is better at tactical level of war, and Rotbart is better at operational level.
 
[X] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance
[X] Attempt to claim the position yourself (66% chance, diplomacy check (DC 75) increase chanced )- You believe that you would be the best choice as High Commander, and are willing to devote the time that will be needed to fill this position.
 
[X] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance
[X] Attempt to claim the position yourself (66% chance, diplomacy check (DC 75) increase chanced )- You believe that you would be the best choice as High Commander, and are willing to devote the time that will be needed to fill this position.
 
[X] Deploy thirteen PDF Army Groups, twelve Guard Armour Groups and one Elite Army Group- These forces should provide a boost to the ground defences, while being replaceable even if massive losses are sustained (2% of all PDF, 25% of all Guard, 10% of all elites) -21% base chance
[X] Attempt to claim the position yourself (66% chance, diplomacy check (DC 75) increase chanced )- You believe that you would be the best choice as High Commander, and are willing to devote the time that will be needed to fill this position.
 
one thing to keep in mind about Julius is that he might actually already have a paragon....we already know durin is not beneath hiding things from us players (*cough* Vlad/Dalv *cough*)

I kinda feel like we should just casually mention it to him and jusut ask..."are you sure you don't have a paragon trait?" on the off chance that he gives it away then.

(If this IS the case, I feel like we should start being paranoid about random bleeping people turning out to be paragons in this or that.....turns out, EVERYONE in the trust has a paragon trait, rotbart was just fooled by half a billion intrigue paragons!)

on a off-note, I wonder if a paragon in intrigue could have a trait that lets them fake having any other paragon....a transcendent would probably be able to actually pull paragon-level things off just to keep the cover too.
 
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[X] Deploy twenty-four Guard Armour Groups and two Elite Army Groups - These forces should provide a significant boost to the ground defences, but would lead to replacement issues if massive losses are sustained (50% of all Guard, 20% of all elites) -35% base chance
[X] Support Autarch Amnedor Landeer (75% chance, diplomacy check (DC 70) increase chanced)-You believe that the experience at larger scale conflicts that Autarch Landeer posseses makes him the best high commander.
-[X] Amnedor's experience in coordinating sector-wide war will be the most sorely needed capability in containing the Tyranids.
 
throwing down a tally.
Adhoc vote count started by Kolekzionera on Apr 8, 2019 at 4:05 AM, finished with 66 posts and 21 votes.
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