Durin said so in Discord.
And even before that, we were able to take 80% of our PDF off planet easily, and in fact had 230 Avernite PDF Corps for deployment in Turoq attack.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
Ouch, fixed. Does anybody want to do something else in there? I'm leaning towards Graviton Weapons (Potentially super-effective or potentially useless vs Tyranids).
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- Australia
I'd like to do melta, for reasons outline in my plan. If we combine it with SI impaler, the Trust gets access to really good anti-elite weaponry. Melta is also a Basic tech so it's quick and easy to do.
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- madison
could we fit in specail issue impalers? it would help out the rest of the trust a fair bit.
Shard
One and Many
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- Malaysia
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- Alice Springs, Australia
trying to keep out of the argument but there were a few issues with this I had problems with
2 was effectively a hero Thunder Warrior, Jane could do the same which does not mean that humans are a match for Space marines. Do not take the actions of any Thunder Warriors who survived into the Horus Heresy as anything like the baseline, anymore then you would take a thousand year old Astartes as an Astartes baseline.
and 5 is irelivent, whatever your reading of Cannon was does not change how good they are in Embers, what matters is what they are in Embers
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- western US
do we know what the melta-implaers do? the only bit I know is decreased magazine size and increased cost, but with damage boost......but on a weapon that is beat by pulse rifles anyway.
what are the stats for impalers with/without the side-grade and the pulse rifles?
-edit, nvm found something, but the stats for the weapons look wrong....I strongly doubt the stats I see here.(epsally since its labeled work-inprogress)
also, I know ap stands for armor piercing/pent (probably?) but what does AT mean?
what are the stats for impalers with/without the side-grade and the pulse rifles?
-edit, nvm found something, but the stats for the weapons look wrong....I strongly doubt the stats I see here.(epsally since its labeled work-inprogress)
also, I know ap stands for armor piercing/pent (probably?) but what does AT mean?
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HanEmpire
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@Durin:
1) is "Wizard Tower" a thing that still exists in human memetic culture in Embers?
2) if we exploit the Rule of Cool/Narrative by modeling our cities' psyker quarters with fantastic aesthetics, could that affect/improve the performance of our psykers to a significant degree?
3) what kind of uniforms do our psykers wear outside of combat?
1) is "Wizard Tower" a thing that still exists in human memetic culture in Embers?
2) if we exploit the Rule of Cool/Narrative by modeling our cities' psyker quarters with fantastic aesthetics, could that affect/improve the performance of our psykers to a significant degree?
3) what kind of uniforms do our psykers wear outside of combat?
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- Somewhere on Earth
Oh, by the way, a minor point I wanted to get out there. A squad of Thunder Warriors will never be as effective as a squad of Astartes at the same level of veterancy and technology when it comes to war. This isn't me dissing Thunderwarriors, transhuman murderblenders that they are, but it's because Space Marines always count as one 'size group' higher than they actually are. One Astartes counts as a squad, one squad counts as the size group above it, etc etc. Thunder Warriors do not have this advantage. I don't believe this matter much in 1v1s, but it's a big bonus when it comes to counting if they're outnumbered or not.
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- western US
(2): if he says yes, we will have to give our psykers pointy hats and owls.....speaking of owls, maybe someone should omake a good species of psykic owls to act as psyker-familiars...probably to give a boost to either divination or hunting ...or both, or maybe research somehow?
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- Alice Springs, Australia
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- western US
(3): maybe we should fix this, by giving our psykers a set-look, it makes that look more warp-based and might make our psykers stronger....a little
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Ahh.. What we should do is model the curriculum in a Rule of Narrative way.
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- Somewhere on Earth
I think that's weighing on the warp-based side of things a little too much. Andres can vouch for how willing I am to attribute abilities to warp influence, but Psyker uniforms are more a 'Schrodinger's cat' of outfits. Technically speaking there's probably already a set uniform, Durin just hasn't bothered to elaborate on it yet.
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- western US
I'm quite glad that we don't have to use modern-fantasy rules for how magic is taught, I don't want our psyker academys to be modeled after HP's school.
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- Asia
When we do improve the Thunder Warriors, we should give them lasers they can shoot from their eyes.
[X] Plan Enjou T127
[X] Plan Enjou T127
Heavenly Body
In the Stars
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- Out there
[X] Plan Enjou T127
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
Khorn has bloodshed, not power over the blood in human veins.
Also I am pretty sure that human blood is used extensively by the rest of Chaos in their rituals.
That hyper reactor makes it much too fragile for a close range brawler.
Why this? Not only is it unlikely to help against the Tyranids much, its not psytech that we are uniquely suited for or even gravitics for which Tranth has already done much work, has enormous potential, and we have DAoT treties for.
I strongly recommend the gravitic array programming though, it would be extremely useful against Tyranids.
We have plenty of excellent candidates to check for warp echoes, Searching is a complete waste. Of the top of my head: adamantium, water, breathable air, human blood, stellar plasma, and some say fire though I am unsure how valid that is.
Using two precious Telepathica actions on the vault does not seem like a good idea, the odds are pretty good as it is.
There are great many valuable military technologies that would be far faster and easier to implement.
Unless we plan to use many TWs against the Tyranids for some reason (unlike SM they do not count as a larger unit than their numbers suggest, we have great many elites already, they would not have much time to train, could Tyranids copy them?), this action seems like a pretty bad idea right now, though we should do it after so that its ready in case of sudden war or something.
I hope that you will change the above, but as I am utterly opposed to Enjous plan (fixing TWs) I will vote for you anyway.
[X] Plan Shard T127
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- Australia
Gravitic array programming is great, but it's much more limited. It needs very expensive ships that take a long time to make, and each of those ships can only cover one system at a time, and a whole buttload of data on those systems needs to be gathered too. Melta round impalers, on the other hand, would benefit nearly the entirety of the Imperial Trust and be relatively quick to implement on a large scale.
And quite frankly we don't know what the tyranids will be like. The War in the Void would've changed them and hive ships greatly differ in specialty from each other besides that.
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Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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Khorne got a lotta power over the red stuff in general.
And not the blood itself again too Khorny, the act of sacrifice is what's important unless its a Khornate ritual.
Then its the blood and sacrifice.
They're very bloody people.
So, what do you think about replacing Thunder Warriors personal action with PDF Armour?
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
I'm ambivalent. Thunder Warriors seem fairly useful as an emergency source of inefficiently produced elites, as well as anti-psyker work.