Alright let me rephrase it then. Our People currently trust the Cadlon far too much, not questioning even orders that they know are wrong, because they have faith in the Cadlon. This is an issue, that I want to address, we can do so by ensuring that the Elder's always a powerful faction within our people, begin to question the wisdom of the Cadlon's actions, by ensuring the Cadlon keeps the older merntir from losing this fight, and instead keeps the peace between the two factions.
Chronicles of Nations - Civ Quest
- Thread starter Oshha
- Start date
- Original
- Location
- Southampton, Great Britain
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Don't confuse legitimacy for stability. Legitimacy is faith and confidence in the current leadership. Stability is how happy and content people are and how likely or unlikely they are to rock the boat or otherwise be disruptive.
Ah, thanks, I did mix those two up. Let me rephrase again. Our People currently believe that the current way things are, are the best they can be. This means that its frowned upon to have any new ideas, any change, anything new at all in our civilization, not questioning even orders that they know are wrong, because they have faith in the system as it is now. This is an issue, that I want to address, we can do so by ensuring that the Elder's, always a powerful faction within our people, begin to question the way things are for the Arthywd, and we can do that by ensuring that the faction that doesn't want to be culturally subsumed within the Merntir, don't lose their conflict. Instead bring peace between the two. This should hopefully show our people that its possible to have a happy successful civilization in other ways than just the way we do things now. This also neatly avoids the issue of the people thinking the Cadlon can do no wrong, by bringing those younger Merntir into the fold. All around, keeping the peace is just a much better option for the People, that keeps them willing to look to new places to learn from, and grow. While also ensuring that if someone has an idea that goes against the Cadlon, well, that person can speak it, and if its a good one, the People will agree, even against the Cadlon.
Now, that takes a long time to say. It's much faster to just say, "Oh hey, our stability is too high, lets do the one thing we can that decreases it." But apparently using short-hand is an issue.
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Sure, low stability would encourage innovation, but high stability would not.
What I meant is that high stability could encourage innovation, or not.
I really don't see how it could. I mean... maybe in a civ were new things happening all the time WAS the standard? But certainly not something anywhere close to what we have now.
- Location
- Earth, unfortunately
[X][North] Try to peacefully resolve matters.
[X][South] Let them be.
[X][South] Let them be.
[X] [Mega] Gain a new Mystic-related Value
[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Magical Technologies
[X] [North] Try to peacefully resolve matters.
[X] [South] Let them be.
[X] [South] Marry Darvyd to Elwyn (Heroic Diplo/Martial)
[X] [SEC] Build Palisade = (Rockbay)
[X] [SEC] Create New Trails.
[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Magical Technologies
[X] [North] Try to peacefully resolve matters.
[X] [South] Let them be.
[X] [South] Marry Darvyd to Elwyn (Heroic Diplo/Martial)
[X] [SEC] Build Palisade = (Rockbay)
[X] [SEC] Create New Trails.
- Location
- Edmonton
- Pronouns
- He/Him
[X] [Mega] Upgrade the Blessing of Arthryn.
[X] [South] Let them be.
Damn normie harem lovers /s
Though a small, but very loud, part of me hopes that if marry both wins it crashes and burns all around us so divine hereditary monarchy can die.
MY SALT FLOWS STRONG.
[X] [South] Let them be.
Damn normie harem lovers /s
Though a small, but very loud, part of me hopes that if marry both wins it crashes and burns all around us so divine hereditary monarchy can die.
MY SALT FLOWS STRONG.
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Hmmm...
What will the Narrative do if we upgrade our blessing the same time we marry two non-blessed double double heroes into the royal family?
What will the Narrative do if we upgrade our blessing the same time we marry two non-blessed double double heroes into the royal family?
- Location
- Behind You
[X] [North] Stay out of it.
[X] [North] Try to peacefully resolve matters.
[X] [South] Let them be.
Having your cake and eating it doesn't work that way.
[X] [Mega] Gain a new Mystic-related Value
[X] [Mega] Upgrade a random Value
[X] [Mega] Gain a Mystic Hero
[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Magical Technologies
[X] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Sea)
[X] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Coastline)
[X] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Sunset Mountains)
[X] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Sunrise Mountains)
[X] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Lowlands)
[X] [SEC] Trade Expedition = (Boarfolk Nomads)
[X] [SEC] Trade Expedition = (Lowlands)
[X] [North] Try to peacefully resolve matters.
[X] [South] Let them be.
Having your cake and eating it doesn't work that way.
[X] [Mega] Gain a new Mystic-related Value
[X] [Mega] Upgrade a random Value
[X] [Mega] Gain a Mystic Hero
[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Magical Technologies
[X] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Sea)
[X] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Coastline)
[X] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Sunset Mountains)
[X] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Sunrise Mountains)
[X] [SEC] Explore Lands = (Lowlands)
[X] [SEC] Trade Expedition = (Boarfolk Nomads)
[X] [SEC] Trade Expedition = (Lowlands)
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[X] [Mega] Upgrade the Blessing of Arthryn.
[X] [North] Try to peacefully resolve matters.
[X] [South] Marry Darvyd to both sisters.
[X] [SEC] Create New Trails.
[X] [SEC] Study Metal
[X] [North] Try to peacefully resolve matters.
[X] [South] Marry Darvyd to both sisters.
[X] [SEC] Create New Trails.
[X] [SEC] Study Metal
- Location
- United States
You're not currently voting for anything else besides the blessing btw.
So you're vote for let them be is not counting.
Nor for any votes of peace or supporting subordinates.
- Location
- Edmonton
- Pronouns
- He/Him
what in tarnation. I thought I copied let them be! Changing...well more adding.
Golden ages are one example.
- Location
- Staring into the void
[X] [Mega] Gain at least two Magical Technologies
[X] [North] Try to peacefully resolve matters.
[X] [South] Marry Darvyd to both sisters.
[X] [SEC] Create New Trails.
[X] [SEC] Sacred Forest
[X] [North] Try to peacefully resolve matters.
[X] [South] Marry Darvyd to both sisters.
[X] [SEC] Create New Trails.
[X] [SEC] Sacred Forest
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Except that's only at 3/3 stability. Not 4/3 stability. Heck, I doubt you can even get a golden age with 4/3 stability.
Knight Draco
Tea Sipping Advocate of the Devil
- Location
- North America
you can't go over stability btw (iirc form the realm of discordance)
- Location
- PA
[X] [Mega] Upgrade the Blessing of Arthryn.
Better blessing? Sure!
[X] [North] Try to peacefully resolve matters.
We can try and quell this fighting instead of letting it fester further.
[X] [South] Let them be.
Let's let the wonder-twins be.
[X] [SEC] Create New Trails.
Infrastructure ho~
[X] [SEC] Support Subordinate = (Merntir)
Aaand let's help these guys out and solidify them.
Better blessing? Sure!
[X] [North] Try to peacefully resolve matters.
We can try and quell this fighting instead of letting it fester further.
[X] [South] Let them be.
Let's let the wonder-twins be.
[X] [SEC] Create New Trails.
Infrastructure ho~
[X] [SEC] Support Subordinate = (Merntir)
Aaand let's help these guys out and solidify them.
We are currently at 4/3 stability currently
Knight Draco
Tea Sipping Advocate of the Devil
- Location
- North America
oh wow we are.
Reeeeing in the discord chat brb.
- Location
- Somewhere
The wonder twins are diplo heroes with extra stuff. Combine the wonder twin diplo heroes with a support subordinate, and the peaceful interaction choice, to create a narrative that strongly compels peace to be successful among the subordinate. Unless dice can override a triple downed diplo action.
Leaving them alone can do more harm than good.