The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

Romka · Feb 23, 2019

I think we'd be better off using the second slot for something more important. Lin only has so much time left, so we should spend try to get as much done as possible.

Fanhunter696 · Feb 23, 2019

Nurgle said:
What???? I am not even talking about the worlds any more, but that is still 72 years to finish the gods and current research besides primordial sea.

Well he still has at least 100 years left, ( and if we cannot research the inactive Eldar gods that is 30 years less) so I don't really see the problem here.

mmgaballah · Feb 23, 2019

Fanhunter696 said:
On the other hand making sure an action passes becomes much more of a priority, if we don't pass a 10 year action like this one, we would have to repeat, making it's opportunity a total of 4 turns instead of just two.

So I would rather keep things as they are now.

I also agree , keep it as it is

MonkeyTypewriter · Feb 23, 2019

I'd use it for created goods or cleansing worlds. They're well positioned to increase our population base.

Nurgle · Feb 23, 2019

@Enjou if you are going to change Saint Lin option rember to do a cleanse world first than do whatever option you want in th 5 year so it can be double downed.

Shard · Feb 23, 2019

Nurgle said:
There are 10 Eldar gods so that is 50 years, 5 for Eldar pantheon, 5 years for Gork and Mork, creating gods 5 years , identify chaos 7 years, one heavy chaos world 3 medium and 11 light chaos worlds so 102 years of actions for Saint Lin if nothing fails. @Enjou

10 Eldar Gods are overkill, especially considering the Ynnari Eldar are our allies. They're probably more than willing to give an overview of their gods. I can see us doing Nature of Ynnead and then perhaps Cegorach and Isha and/or Nature of (Eldar Pantheon), but more?

Angelform · Feb 23, 2019

Come to think of it we really should do a 'Nature of the Emperor' while we have the opportunity. Be nice to know how his accession is coming along and what the end result might look like.

Enjou · Feb 23, 2019

Nurgle said:
@Enjou if you are going to change Saint Lin option rember to do a cleanse world first than do whatever option you want in th 5 year so it can be double downed.

Double Down needs to go onto the vault in year 5. It's too low of a chance. But we could always cleanse another world.

Nurgle · Feb 23, 2019

Enjou said:
Double Down needs to go onto the vault in year 5. It's too low of a chance. But we could always cleanse another world.

Or help train psykers, that is one year.

Fanhunter696 · Feb 23, 2019

Enjou said:
Double Down needs to go onto the vault in year 5. It's too low of a chance. But we could always cleanse another world.

Or keep it the way it is, there are still a good number of people who wants to triple down on Lins action.

Enjou · Feb 23, 2019

I've been convinced to make the change - there seem to be more people in favor of using the second slot for something different than not, so that's what I'm going with. Currently I've got it set for cleansing a couple worlds. The other option I'd say would be worthwhile in terms of success chances due to no available double downs is seeing about the nature of Gork and Mork.

Nurgle · Feb 23, 2019

Enjou said:
I've been convinced to make the change - there seem to be more people in favor of using the second slot for something different than not, so that's what I'm going with. Currently I've got it set for cleansing a couple worlds. The other option I'd say would be worthwhile in terms of success chances due to no available double downs is seeing about the nature of Gork and Mork.

Gork and Mork would have 53 plus 45 minus 30 so 68 plus d 100.

Edit I forgot we had another plus 10 for not succeeding last time.

Shard · Feb 23, 2019

Enjou said:
I've been convinced to make the change - there seem to be more people in favor of using the second slot for something different than not, so that's what I'm going with. Currently I've got it set for cleansing a couple worlds. The other option I'd say would be worthwhile in terms of success chances due to no available double downs is seeing about the nature of Gork and Mork.

I would suggest a 1-year Those in the Shadows followed by a DD'ed Nature of Gork and Mork.

Fanhunter696 · Feb 23, 2019

Ok for those who had voted for Enjou´s plan ( @Void Stalker @DkArthas @Angelform @Brogatar @DarknessSmiles @huntsman0697 @Thule @Enerael @Romka @cl20 @Decado @Ruirk @REAPER35 @Speed53066 ) Enjou has decided to change the ministrorum actions, so Lin will not use a triple down in Identifying Chaos, instead he wants to use the second slot for another action.

I think this is a mistake, and I personally prefer to triple down that action, since aside from Studying the Great Sea it would be the action we will benefit the most for a crit here, and since it is the one that would take the longest time is the one with the greatest opportunity const if we fail.

So I put here my plan that it is exactly the same as the Old Enjou´s one, and it is exactly the same as the current one but with a triple down in Lin´s action.

[X] Plan Fanhunter T124 (AKA old Enjou T124)

Munitorum
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Light Power Weapons
SLOT B - Year 5
-Y5: Readiness Training

Void Command
SLOT A - Year 4
-Y4: Readiness Training: Fleet
-Y5: Readiness Training: Fleet
SLOT B - Year 4
-Y4: Implement (Navigator's Eyepiece): Naval

Administratum
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Technological Improvements: (Other)

Diplomacy
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Syr's Suitors
-Y4: Siren Trade (Tau tech for runes, see if they'd also be interested in artificial lakes)
-Y5: Request Information (Grey Knights - Secret Techniques for future penguin trade)

Arbites
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1-2: Counter-Intelligence
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 1 AND 2
-Y3-5: Greater Psyker Hunting
SLOT B - Year 1
-Y1-5: Greater Psyker Hunting

AdMech
SLOT A - Year 4 (Free)
-Y4: Expand Military Forces: Mechanicus

Ministorum
SLOT A - Year 3
-Y3: Identifying Chaos by Saint Lin
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 3
SLOT B - Year 3
-Y3: Identifying Chaos by Saint Lin

Astra Telepathica
SLOT A - Year 3 (Ridcully)
-Y3: Nudging Ironbusta (Amir'ka)
-Y4: Nudging Ironbusta (Amir'ka)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 4
-Y5: Nudging Ironbusta (Amir'ka)
SLOT B - Year 5: (Aria)
-Y5: Ward Vault (Dis)
-- DOUBLE DOWN YEAR 5
SLOT C - Free Divination
-Y?: Greater Divination (Eldar Choice)

Personal
SLOT A - Year 1
-Y1: Knowing Avernus (QM's Choice)
-Y2: Spend Time With (Rosalinda)
-Y3: Spend Time With (Rosalinda)
-Y4: Spend Time With (Jane)
-Y5: Spend Time With (Jane)

Void Stalker · Feb 23, 2019

I am fine with the changes made, there is value in cleansing those worlds so that we can use them and they are not so useful for chaos off the bat as well.

Hoping Eldars can do something about breaking Isha out soonish so that we can save Lin.

Adhoc vote count started by Void Stalker on Feb 23, 2019 at 9:07 PM, finished with 272 posts and 23 votes.

18 people have voted
[X] Plan Enjou T124
- Enjou
- Void Stalker
- DkArthas
- Angelform
- Brogatar
- DarknessSmiles
- huntsman0697
- Thule
- HanEmpire
- Enerael
- Romka
- cl20
- Decado
- Ruirk
- REAPER35
- Speed53066
- notanautomaton
- mmgaballah
4 people have voted
[X] Nurgle T 124
1 people have voted
[X] Plan Fanhunter T124 (AKA old Enjou T124)
- Fanhunter696

Durin · Feb 23, 2019

24 hours left to vote

Adhoc vote count started by Durin on Feb 23, 2019 at 9:35 PM, finished with 273 posts and 23 votes.

18 people have voted
[X] Plan Enjou T124
- Enjou
- Void Stalker
- DkArthas
- Angelform
- Brogatar
- DarknessSmiles
- huntsman0697
- Thule
- HanEmpire
- Enerael
- Romka
- cl20
- Decado
- Ruirk
- REAPER35
- Speed53066
- notanautomaton
- mmgaballah
4 people have voted
[X] Nurgle T 124
1 people have voted
[X] Plan Fanhunter T124 (AKA old Enjou T124)
- Fanhunter696

Nurgle · Feb 23, 2019

@Durin If we want to do the eldar Pantheon do we have to do all the eldar gods?

Azgrin · Feb 23, 2019

[X] Plan Enjou T124

xXxBlueViperxXx · Feb 23, 2019

[X] Plan Enjou T124

Fanhunter696 · Feb 23, 2019

Nurgle said:
@Durin If we want to do the eldar Pantheon do we have to do all the eldar gods?

We don´t have to, we could have done the Chaos Pantheon without doing any of the Chaos Gods first.

But the more member of the Pantheon we research the greater the bonus for the research of that Pantheon.

random_npc · Feb 23, 2019

Enjou said:
I've been convinced to make the change - there seem to be more people in favor of using the second slot for something different than not, so that's what I'm going with. Currently I've got it set for cleansing a couple worlds. The other option I'd say would be worthwhile in terms of success chances due to no available double downs is seeing about the nature of Gork and Mork.

can I suggest going for created gods? it's the last type of god to look into, and there might be a benefit for doing all the god types.

Durin · Feb 23, 2019

Nurgle said:
@Durin If we want to do the eldar Pantheon do we have to do all the eldar gods?

no, it just gives bonuses if you do

Fanhunter696 · Feb 23, 2019

@Durin How many Eldar gods we can research? All the 10 of them? Only the ones that were not devoured by Slaanesh?

Durin · Feb 23, 2019

Fanhunter696 said:
@Durin How many Eldar gods we can research? All the 10 of them? Only the ones that were not devoured by Slaanesh?

all of them

Shard · Feb 23, 2019

@Durin

1. Is Identifying Chaos a Crittable action?
2. Is Nudging Ironbusta a Crittable action?
3. Instead of investigating the Eldar Pantheon or individual gods, couldn't we take a Diplomacy action to just ask the Eldar?

The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up

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