- Location
- Back in Cali
[X] Plan Nurgle T116
I want more ships and monitors for ourselves now that we are more vulnerable.
I want more ships and monitors for ourselves now that we are more vulnerable.
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
- Thread starter Durin
- Start date
- Location
- Berkeley
And Cheshire also has
Helguard Founder (+4M, +8I, +1L, +4P, +1D, +8C, far harder to kill)
in addition to six more combat.
Saying she's more likely to die on the strength of the single trait each regardless of the actual scenario is ridiculous.
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HanEmpire
Delicious
Bah, somehow I missed that trait. Alright I withdraw my objection to Cheshire's promotion. I'll keep my plan up for Khol supporters.
[X] Plan Enjou T116
How are the anti-psyker units doing? They've been taking a licking recently and I keep thinking that if someone were in a position to take all the psykers snatched from Avernus over the years and bring them back all at once, now would be a really good time.
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
1. Cheshire provides not bonuses, Khol provides a minus
2. no
3. cheshire has a 5% lower life expectancy
Dynamesmouse
Bzzzzzz
I am watching Durin updating his spreadsheets.
This isn't final, but I think we will only have 3.5M Deep Cultists.
This isn't final, but I think we will only have 3.5M Deep Cultists.
Dynamesmouse
Bzzzzzz
Inserted tally
- Location
- madison
hmm, better than expected. If we crush them as hard as we can we might be able to keep the loses trivial depending on how spread out they are. I would really love it if the most damage they did was action disruption.
Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
@Durin
1. Out of curiosity, what's our strongest material available (that we can produce) for purposes of runes? I was wondering if Banishment Angelsteel Bullets or like might be viable, even if only for rare occasions when a Greater Daemon is beating down on your walls. (Relic-Grade Ammunition? Only on Avernus)
2. Can a Psyker have multiple force weapons?
3. Is there a limit to what can be turned into a Force Weapon, for example is Ridcully's Super-Exitus Rifle a Force Weapon?
1. Out of curiosity, what's our strongest material available (that we can produce) for purposes of runes? I was wondering if Banishment Angelsteel Bullets or like might be viable, even if only for rare occasions when a Greater Daemon is beating down on your walls. (Relic-Grade Ammunition? Only on Avernus)
2. Can a Psyker have multiple force weapons?
3. Is there a limit to what can be turned into a Force Weapon, for example is Ridcully's Super-Exitus Rifle a Force Weapon?
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
at the moment it is 47 million left after the first year, without taking all actions into account
- Location
- Alice Springs, Australia
1. Angelsteel
2. yes
- Location
- Berkeley
As a note, that is around the total cultists we found the first year after the first daemonic incursion and one fourth of the maximum remaining cultists from that year. It seems like a safe bet that the actions selected in all leading plans will be enough to discover all of those assuming our capabilities have scaled with our population growth.
- Location
- Back in Cali
Well we should be good no matter what plan wins. They all take most of the actions needed to deal with the cults.
- Location
- Australia
Paladium is the only name I remember suggested.
ArchAIngel
Sorcerer Supreme.
- Location
- Right behind you.
Err... Cybros, Karaz-A-Karak, Silverpeak(Good for omake bait cause of all our new silver), Metallia(C'tan bait??), and that's all I got off the top of my head.
- Location
- Australia
Took a look at DH1E: Daemon Hunters. The first thing that looked potentially intriguing turned out to in truth be intriguing. It also seems like something we can do, despite the name.
That first thing is something called Corporeal Sanctification.
In short, these are wards that you implant inside a non-psyker. Normal wards can be powered by a psyker's psychic energy, but non-psykers don't have that, so the wards need to be carved into the recipients flesh and bone. It's very painful. The recipient also has to be a small child. People who don't know what the wards are about are instinctually fearful, but that fear goes away if they know what the symbols are. Additionally, these wards induce one side effect out of a possible five. One is wholly positive while the other four are a mixed bag, some of which avoid being wholly negative only because of the Emperor. As a whole it's some good stuff, but the side-effects are a problem if we want to roll it out en masse. Doing some research to control or at least predict the side-effects would be worthwhile.
Next we have a background package called Daemonic Vanquisher.
Apparently, anyone who kills a daemon counts as having gained the Forbidden Lore (Daemonology) skill and Hatred (Daemons). It counts even if you killed a daemon as a group, and explicitly notes a platoon of guardsmen counting, so this isn't just for elites. This has given me the idea to do Specialist Grenadiers (Daemon Hunters). We have a large pool of candidates who'd be ideal for the job. Getting them additional training, gear, and juvenat would help them fight daemons a lot better. This'd be the Munitorum equivalent of the Telepathica's Psy-Hunters.
Next up is some real fucking weird shit called Fate-Eaters. Yes, you can play as a character who literally eats fate, and all it costs is 400xp at chargen. These people exist in 40k.
Basically, a Fate-Eater is kind of like a blank. Where a blank has no psychic presence and reduces the psychic presence of others, a fate-eater has no fate and eats the fate of others. They can kill people who were fated to live. Each time they kill a character with Fate Points, they can take the random bonuses/penalties that character rolled at chargen. I should clarify that the "Dark Soul" talent just means you can pass malignancy tests easier (passing is good, because it means you avoid mutation). It's just called "Dark Soul" because normally you need to get some Corruption points to get that talent. It doesn't mean that a Fate-Eater is corrupted by Chaos or anything.
Fate-Eaters can be found simply by using the Emperor's Tarot on them. The description mentions the God-Emperor a bunch of times, but it seems that it's only in relevance to the use of the Emperor's Tarot. The Tarot still works for us so we should still be able to find these people. Ultimately, these people would be best employed by the Inquisition rather than ourselves.
Next up is a talent called Intellectualisation.
This seems like mundane training, without any God-Emperor magic to it. Should be something within our capacity. Given our education system, it may be something we can roll out to our people en-mass.
Next is the career rank known as Cult-Stalker. It's just people who look for and kill cults. Not anything special. What is special is the example of a group of cult-stalkers it gives.
Additionally, here's a talent called Cult Briefing.
The next stuff appears in the Daemonym Seeker career rank. A Daemonym Seeker is a Banisher (agents trained by the Ecclesiarchy to banish daemons (they have the Intellectualisation talent and are trained as children)) who has dedicated their life to learning the True Name of a daemon. These are good guys, by the way. First of all is the first paragraph of the description.
The next quote is about how these guys get True Names.
There's one final thing in the Daemonym Seeker career that I should point out. In short, we need to get Turoq's True name as soon as humanly possible because by God it would be so god damn useful to know.
Minor Daemonym lets us command the daemon's cultists. Give a suitably powerful Telepath just the Minor Daemonym and they would be way more effective against pretty much anyone who serves Turoq! Then we have Lesser Daemonym. +10 WS against the daemon and their minions and melee weapons not only count as Sanctified on the daemon, but against the daemon's minions as well. That's some powerful shit. Finally we have Greater Daemonym. As one might expect, it lets you banish daemons by reading it out. What you might not expect is the lack of any kind of range requirement. Read it out and no matter where that daemon is in the galaxy, you'll do damage to them. We could have Grey Knights reciting Turoq's name on Avernus completely risk-free and still do damage to Turoq. Even if it doesn't banish him, it would still weaken him greatly and may provoke him into attacking us or something.
Time for armoury stuff. First is a ranged weapon called the Tyranicus Pattern Heavy Webber.
It's a big web shooter. That's about it. It seems legit human at least.
Not very much interesting stuff at all when it comes to ranged weapons, but melee weapons are a little more interesting.
Blackwing Halberd: Not too powerful, but a decent enough weapon. Pointing it out because it doesn't count as Primitive and because we can probably find a similar or better material on Avernus. Getting our troops better melee weapons would be a good idea, just have to find the right material in high quantity.
Null Rod: This obsidian material keeps showing up. We really need to find out how to make some. Closest thing we have is that null circuitry in our Sororitas helmets.
Sacred Incense: We really have to find the Avernite species that can produce a similar kind of smoke for us. It'd be massively useful whenever we get hit by daemonic incursion, and would synergise well with those Plains Dragons in Elysium.
Truename Staff: We should do whatever we can to get that many True Names and start inscribing them on all our super-elites' weapons. It's one of the few ways available to us that we can get to replicate Sanctified's effects. EDIT: Maybe we can put the names on armour too.
There's probably more stuff in the book for me to find but I've hit the maximum amount of images that SV lets me post. I'll post a followup post if there's anything else worth mentioning.
That first thing is something called Corporeal Sanctification.
Next we have a background package called Daemonic Vanquisher.
Next up is some real fucking weird shit called Fate-Eaters. Yes, you can play as a character who literally eats fate, and all it costs is 400xp at chargen. These people exist in 40k.
Fate-Eaters can be found simply by using the Emperor's Tarot on them. The description mentions the God-Emperor a bunch of times, but it seems that it's only in relevance to the use of the Emperor's Tarot. The Tarot still works for us so we should still be able to find these people. Ultimately, these people would be best employed by the Inquisition rather than ourselves.
Next up is a talent called Intellectualisation.
This seems like mundane training, without any God-Emperor magic to it. Should be something within our capacity. Given our education system, it may be something we can roll out to our people en-mass.
Next is the career rank known as Cult-Stalker. It's just people who look for and kill cults. Not anything special. What is special is the example of a group of cult-stalkers it gives.
So yeah. Even criminal scum can remain pure even after a decade of service in a Chaos cult, even up to the point where they become elite guards. Admittedly these guys were really above-average in terms of faith, but still. Our people aren't trying hard enough. We should do something about that.
Additionally, here's a talent called Cult Briefing.
Quite a few ways for agents to infiltrate cults.
The next stuff appears in the Daemonym Seeker career rank. A Daemonym Seeker is a Banisher (agents trained by the Ecclesiarchy to banish daemons (they have the Intellectualisation talent and are trained as children)) who has dedicated their life to learning the True Name of a daemon. These are good guys, by the way. First of all is the first paragraph of the description.
Apparently there's a "Collegia Exterminatus". Sounds ominous.
The next quote is about how these guys get True Names.
Prophecies aren't really something we can do anything with, by seances are definitely in our alley. It might be a good idea to gather together a bunch of people who can find True Names instead of having to rely on Ridcully for it.
There's one final thing in the Daemonym Seeker career that I should point out. In short, we need to get Turoq's True name as soon as humanly possible because by God it would be so god damn useful to know.
Time for armoury stuff. First is a ranged weapon called the Tyranicus Pattern Heavy Webber.
Not very much interesting stuff at all when it comes to ranged weapons, but melee weapons are a little more interesting.
Null Rod: This obsidian material keeps showing up. We really need to find out how to make some. Closest thing we have is that null circuitry in our Sororitas helmets.
Sacred Incense: We really have to find the Avernite species that can produce a similar kind of smoke for us. It'd be massively useful whenever we get hit by daemonic incursion, and would synergise well with those Plains Dragons in Elysium.
Truename Staff: We should do whatever we can to get that many True Names and start inscribing them on all our super-elites' weapons. It's one of the few ways available to us that we can get to replicate Sanctified's effects. EDIT: Maybe we can put the names on armour too.
There's probably more stuff in the book for me to find but I've hit the maximum amount of images that SV lets me post. I'll post a followup post if there's anything else worth mentioning.
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Shard
One and Many
- Location
- Malaysia
Relic Ammunition gogogo.
- Location
- Australia
Continuing on in the Daemon Hunter book.
Rare instead of Very Rare and weighs 0.3kg to the normal Refractor Field's 2kg. Gives the same protection rating too and can be interlocked. Hoping that we find the even cheaper Dark Age version of these things. They'd only be as exensive as anti-tank grenades then, so we could supply them to our troops en masse.
While someone is under this drug's effect, they're smarter but have lower wills. After it wears off, they become less perceptive. The reason I'm bringing this up is because it's not addictive. People can go on this drug all day every day and come out fine afterwards. It's probably a good idea to give it to tech priests that aren't on Avernus.
Doesn't say it's not addictive, which means it's addictive. Still a very good idea to stock up on these drugs when we're fighting daemons. We'll take less casualties and less cultists will get generated.
Pretty sure I covered this in a previous dive into the RPG books, but this one has a picture in it.
Here are the stats for the above stuff.
Dreamjuice is pretty cheap, as is Imperium's Fervour. The Psyocculum is Rare, but that's still surprisingly common for warptech. Probably isn't that advanced.
I'm up to the chapter where it starts talking about Anointed Weapons. First thing that caught my eye is talking about some miner who killed a bunch of daemons with his pick until it gained magic powers.
These things can be intentionally created, but damn if it isn't expensive. Just look at what one of the materials needed is.
And...that's it. That's everything I wanted to bring up from Daemon Hunters.
Here are the stats for the above stuff.
I'm up to the chapter where it starts talking about Anointed Weapons. First thing that caught my eye is talking about some miner who killed a bunch of daemons with his pick until it gained magic powers.
This holy weapon was "restored", implying that these kinds of relics can indeed be repaired if damaged. Just something reassuring to know.
These things can be intentionally created, but damn if it isn't expensive. Just look at what one of the materials needed is.
Moot point because of the Emperor's death, but still.
And...that's it. That's everything I wanted to bring up from Daemon Hunters.
- Location
- Australia
@Durin, I'm looking at the Military sheet and something inside it seems glaringly wrong to me: our air combat bonuses. They lack the military traditions bonus, the bionics bonus (they are indeed Guard, not PDF, as they have the Guard +10 bonus), the deathworlder bonus (!), the morale bonus, the training bonus, the militia bonus (we have militia air so they'd have it), and potentially the ace bonus to substitute for the champion bonus.
In short, our air troops are grossly underpowered. They should be much stronger than they're stated to be.
In short, our air troops are grossly underpowered. They should be much stronger than they're stated to be.
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Just to note, this is significantly better than during the first incursion, where after the first year there were an estimated hundred and thirty million undetected left, and one hundred million after that. We eliminated the majority of those in the third year through orbital bombardment of our own cities, after evacuating the non-cultists.
So if this is with not all actions taken into account, we're likely good to have the cultist problem under control by the end of the second year, especially with them not having access to the militia equipment due to it being on lockdown, which makes it harder for them to dig in.
- Location
- A Place Miserably Bereft of Cats
@Durin
I suggested the name Aigaion or Aegaeon, Dictaeon Antron, Lasithiotika or Psychro, all of which refer to the cave where the nymph Amaltheia raised Zeus when he was hidden from his father, Kronos.
- Location
- To the left. No, not there, the other left.
I personally agree that naming it Palladium is the best choice. It honours Paladis who died furthering the Quest for Knowledge (it may also help to settle the ruffled feathers of Conservatives) and it's nice and simple name to remember. Also naming a forge-hive after a metal seems appropriate.
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