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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. it is slowly diminishing
2. pretty much the economy and the rather nasty politics
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The Long Night Part One: Embers in the Dusk: A Planetary Governor Quest (43k) Complete Sequel Up
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2. pretty much the economy and the rather nasty politics
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
@Durin
1. Idea I had...probably dumb, but hey ho. Do any of our Avernite experts (Sphinx Areatha ect.) believe that the Planet Mind appreciates when new biodiversity is added too it from say...alien species like the Quartok or Humans establishing permanent populations?
2. Are either of them willing to say whether or not the Planet Mind permanently kills off species it has a proper breeding population for unless there is some reason like chaos corruption, to do so?
3. Have we told people like the Siren's (who are related to them and know about them even calling them "star kin" IIRC) that we maybe contacting the Eldar and if so do they want to come and say hi?
4. Do any of them know of the location of an Eldar webway gate on Avernus? Cause I'm honestly interested where one maybe in Trust space...there's the obvious answer of Byzantium AKA Fyjol, but Avernus I dunno if it'd have a connection to the Eldar webway...be pretty funny if there were one on Vanaheim.
1. Idea I had...probably dumb, but hey ho. Do any of our Avernite experts (Sphinx Areatha ect.) believe that the Planet Mind appreciates when new biodiversity is added too it from say...alien species like the Quartok or Humans establishing permanent populations?
2. Are either of them willing to say whether or not the Planet Mind permanently kills off species it has a proper breeding population for unless there is some reason like chaos corruption, to do so?
3. Have we told people like the Siren's (who are related to them and know about them even calling them "star kin" IIRC) that we maybe contacting the Eldar and if so do they want to come and say hi?
4. Do any of them know of the location of an Eldar webway gate on Avernus? Cause I'm honestly interested where one maybe in Trust space...there's the obvious answer of Byzantium AKA Fyjol, but Avernus I dunno if it'd have a connection to the Eldar webway...be pretty funny if there were one on Vanaheim.
Me thinks that sentance is a little borked...
What exactly can we do to help out their economic situation? We sell them needed materials, and buy ships from them. What else can we do that wouldn't be interference? (plus the guy's position would probably be made weaker if he was trying to get help from us)
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- Leicester UK
Just spending time with someone doesn't mean they will automatically like you more, trying to be friendly doesn't guarantee that whoever you are talking to will consider you a friend, also he's a buisnessman, they spend their entire lives pretending to be friendly to people they are directly competing with so he will probably see straight through a transparent attempt to gain his favor.
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- Australia
Don't know. It's why I'm proposing we ask him. Believe it or not, but sometimes people that aren't us can have good ideas that we ourselves haven't thought of.
Doomed Wombat
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- Dancing on wires!
Something debt something something...all I got I'm afraid.
What about a genuine one?
And no it doesn't automatically mean they like you, but if you don't try they're very unlikely to like you either *Insert blah blah never try never succeed blah blah*.
Doomed Wombat
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Yeah, but no need to drag Vanaheim with him...
HanEmpire
Delicious
Vanaheim won't be dragged down with him; they'll replace Bertil.
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- Alice Springs, Australia
1. probebly
2. only if they are obsolete
3. no you have not
4. no one that does is willing to talk about it. and there is a connection on Vanaheim, or at least some way for an Eldar Warhost to get onto the planet without anyone in orbit noticing
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- Leicester UK
No difference really, Rotbart would still be genuinely trying to perform damage control for obvious reasons.
Yes but timing is a thing, spending time with him directly after pissing him off is just asking for trouble, he wont be in a positive frame of mind.
To be fair most of the High Council dont think Vanaheim is going to be ruined this, it's uncomfortable but so is the Avernite budget, we didn't attack them with this vote.
Ok guys if you want to help Vanahiem we can do a few things.
1 allow them to get one of the worlds we recently cleansed world so they can unload some of their unemployed population.
2 help them build up thier ground infrastructure more.
3 subsidies there orbital structure building even more.
Not really much more we can do besides that.
1 allow them to get one of the worlds we recently cleansed world so they can unload some of their unemployed population.
2 help them build up thier ground infrastructure more.
3 subsidies there orbital structure building even more.
Not really much more we can do besides that.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
Yeah, but how much damage does the planet take before they chuck him?
I don't like Bertil, I especially don't like his nationalism or his zero sum world view, but screwing him over at the expense of Vanaheim is a bad move and I can agree with him on some points.
INITIATE PLAN BRIBE THE WORLD MIND WITH SHINY NEW SPECIES! We got one in the freezer and I got plans for refugees.
Quick we must import animals and plants from across the Trust!!!
True, but sometimes when you're in a bad frame of mind ya need someone to talk to
.Don't think unemployment is an issue at least not in the Trust...and they've already got one colony that they're managing taking on two is possibly illegal or asking too much I can't remember.
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- United States of America, Michigan
Wait what? Wow that's an actual reason for Vanaheim to invest in ground defenses since I previously thought that there orbitals could fight off any invasion before it got to the ground besides a sudden demonic incursion of course. But now that we know there is a webway gate on the planet they need to be prepared for sudden groundside attacks since even if the Eldar control the main sections of the webay and are the best at navigating it they aren't the only ones who use it Dark Eldar and Necrons as examples.
Doomed Wombat
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I dunno if @Durin considers the Necrons to use the Dolman's gates on a regular basis, but even then
1. Dolman gates connect to the Old One webway, nothing anyone can do to stop them if they want to get from point A to B through it unless the Way itself does.
2. If the Necrons want to invade Vanaheim we've got bigger problems over all.
As for the Dark Eldar...at the moment I think we don't need to worry, but if we do make semi regular contact with the Eldar we probably will need to ask them to tell us where that gate is (if it is a gate, remember Eldar got real good stealth ship tech.)
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- Leicester UK
And most of the time you want to share your discontent with it's source.True, but sometimes when you're in a bad frame of mind ya need someone to talk to
That is how most people respond.
I dont think Bertil is going to open up and drop his centuries long businessman persona because Rotbart the Great has deigned to speak to him after causing him a political headache.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
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- Dancing on wires!
It may just be me, but I do prefer to go straight to the source of the problem yes.
No, but he may to Fredrick Rotbart confused and out of depth administratum adept, who truth be told I get the feeling Rotbart still is in a lot of ways. It's worse for him especially because of how entrenched he was in the Imperial system compared to others.
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- madison
[X] Governor Mikaelsson of Vanaheim
-[X] Bring up the possibility of making Vanaheim an exception to the ground defenses increase due to their superior orbital protection.
-[X] Ask to hear his ideas on how the Imperial Trust and its member worlds might be put on a more sustainable footing.
one of the core worlds having an economic implosion would be turbo bad.
-[X] Bring up the possibility of making Vanaheim an exception to the ground defenses increase due to their superior orbital protection.
-[X] Ask to hear his ideas on how the Imperial Trust and its member worlds might be put on a more sustainable footing.
one of the core worlds having an economic implosion would be turbo bad.
But... Vanaheim is still a heavy contributor to the Trust. How has he been a nationalist?
What he has done it is to address what Vanaheim saw as dangerous Avernite high-handedness. And to be honest, he was right to do so.
Now, we might argue that he should have found better ways to address Rotbart's mistakes, but that's a whole different kettle of fish.
fasquardon
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- England
[X] Governor Mikaelsson of Vanaheim
-[X] Bring up the possibility of making Vanaheim an exception to the ground defenses increase due to their superior orbital protection.
-[X] Ask to hear his ideas on how the Imperial Trust and its member worlds might be put on a more sustainable footing.
-[X] Offer Avernite and Telepathica support in finding and securing the webway portal on vanaheim
I think, despite our antagonism we need to talk to Vanaheim. They are probably our most specialist planet, not to mention the second largest, and we have a lot we can try and help them with, and if they have a webway gate we'll need their begrudging cooperation to deal with the Eldar.
We really need to get on good terms with the Eldar. They're the only hyperpower who aren't completely fuckfaces, even if the Necrons have gone to stop the Tyranids for us.
@Durin they don't know where the gate is right? I'd feel bad offering to find and lock down a gate that is already well fortified.
-[X] Bring up the possibility of making Vanaheim an exception to the ground defenses increase due to their superior orbital protection.
-[X] Ask to hear his ideas on how the Imperial Trust and its member worlds might be put on a more sustainable footing.
-[X] Offer Avernite and Telepathica support in finding and securing the webway portal on vanaheim
I think, despite our antagonism we need to talk to Vanaheim. They are probably our most specialist planet, not to mention the second largest, and we have a lot we can try and help them with, and if they have a webway gate we'll need their begrudging cooperation to deal with the Eldar.
We really need to get on good terms with the Eldar. They're the only hyperpower who aren't completely fuckfaces, even if the Necrons have gone to stop the Tyranids for us.
@Durin they don't know where the gate is right? I'd feel bad offering to find and lock down a gate that is already well fortified.
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- United States of America, Michigan
[X] Leave yourself open to be approached by other Governors.
HanEmpire
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Please reconsider this one. It might put Rotbart in a position where he has to support a Telepathica expansion to Vanaheim or else lose public standing for "hoarding" psychic expertise.
Besides, we already know the answer to this; @Durin mentioned that their rogue psyker problem is being handled just fine.