Hold It In (RWBY/Transistor)
- Thread starter Prok
- Start date
- Crossover
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
[x] Record everything for future use.
-[x] Call the cops surreptitiously.
--[x] Don't say anything incriminating, let this asshole hang himself.
-[x] Call the cops surreptitiously.
--[x] Don't say anything incriminating, let this asshole hang himself.
- Location
- Hyperborea
[X] Record everything for future use.
[X] "I'm just here because a girl was lonely and needed a friend, I haven't done anything wrong."
[X] Try to calm down, this guy is (hopefully) bluffing and he (probably) won't do anything stupid in public.
[X] Admit to nothing and don't say anything incriminating.
[X] Have Blue and Bracket do anything they can think of. Call the cops, talk to Penny, hack this guy's scroll for something of use, call Weiss and see if the Heiress of the SDC can do anything to help.
[X] If all else fails, look to Penny. Blue made her sound like a good person, so she wouldn't let you get killed.
[X] "I'm just here because a girl was lonely and needed a friend, I haven't done anything wrong."
[X] Try to calm down, this guy is (hopefully) bluffing and he (probably) won't do anything stupid in public.
[X] Admit to nothing and don't say anything incriminating.
[X] Have Blue and Bracket do anything they can think of. Call the cops, talk to Penny, hack this guy's scroll for something of use, call Weiss and see if the Heiress of the SDC can do anything to help.
[X] If all else fails, look to Penny. Blue made her sound like a good person, so she wouldn't let you get killed.
Driven by Apathy
Formerly known as Brain_Caster
First, definitely record everything.
Secondly, could the Transistor clandestinely place a call with Jaune's family? We could really use some reinforcements. The thought of this guy getting swarmed by angry Arc huntsmen and huntresses warms my heart. Honestly, I'd much rather have them here than the police.
Also, would Turn() perhaps allow for the speed we need to avoid getting shot even if things turn hostile?
As for the Transistor being an AI? That's very much something it would be preferable to keep a secret, though given that Transistor didn't try to conceal their nature from Penny (which was pretty dumb of them, if they're meant to keep Jaune safe they certainly suck at their job) probably makes it a moot point. Even so, I'm not eager to confirm anything.
[x] Record everything for future use.
-[x] Call your family surreptitiously.
-[x] Be ready to use Turn() at a moment's notice to avoid getting shot.
--[x] Don't say anything incriminating, let this asshole hang himself.
Secondly, could the Transistor clandestinely place a call with Jaune's family? We could really use some reinforcements. The thought of this guy getting swarmed by angry Arc huntsmen and huntresses warms my heart. Honestly, I'd much rather have them here than the police.
Also, would Turn() perhaps allow for the speed we need to avoid getting shot even if things turn hostile?
As for the Transistor being an AI? That's very much something it would be preferable to keep a secret, though given that Transistor didn't try to conceal their nature from Penny (which was pretty dumb of them, if they're meant to keep Jaune safe they certainly suck at their job) probably makes it a moot point. Even so, I'm not eager to confirm anything.
[x] Record everything for future use.
-[x] Call your family surreptitiously.
-[x] Be ready to use Turn() at a moment's notice to avoid getting shot.
--[x] Don't say anything incriminating, let this asshole hang himself.
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- Location
- Hyperborea
That won't be a problem, since Transistor!Jaune is a hard counter to the Black Queen Virus. Cinder's canon plan to manipulate the Vytal Tournament was utterly doomed the moment we picked this crossover.
Edited to include citation.
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CaesriusPolybius
Worldgate Mechanic
- Location
- United States. Ish.
The Atlesian 'bots really aren't that bad of a thing to have around in normal situations; the big problem is that Salem gambit-hacked them. We should be able to counter it. Probably.
Also, changing my vote because I think I prefer this one better.
[ ] Record everything for future use.
-[ ] Call your family surreptitiously.
-[ ] Be ready to use Turn() at a moment's notice to avoid getting shot.
--[ ] Don't say anything incriminating, let this asshole hang himself.
EDIT: Oh look, a ninja.
EDIT II: VOTE CHANGED
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ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
Hmm... That looks like a good idea, but I'm not sure how much Blue and Bracket can do without our Aura doing funny things that get us shot.
- Location
- Box of Granola bars
[X] "My AI asked your AI out on a date and since I can't be more then 100 meters away from its vessel without dying I had to come along."
Does Jaune even have the composure to even think of pulling anything other than this off? Much less actually do it? And without messing it up?
I don't, though I'm open to rebuttals.
Does Jaune even have the composure to even think of pulling anything other than this off? Much less actually do it? And without messing it up?
I don't, though I'm open to rebuttals.
- Location
- Null Island
[X] Plan: Going nuclear- Crawl out Through the Fallout
-[x] Ask Brackett or the process to record everything he says and concurrently upload it to our home computer or a server we can use.
-[x] If he doesn't notice this, also have Brackett send a message to the police, the station guard, and any lines to nearby hunter stations telling them our location and about us being held hostage.
--[x] If we have access to a server give them a link to the uploaded video.
--[x] If possible find the wavelength that the station officers radios operate on and have brackett message them directly.
-[x] Tell him that we developed an AI and that it wanted to meet Penny in person. We are only here as a messenger. Tell him that to our knowledge no one was groomed and that the meeting was entirely voluntary.
--[x] If questioned about 'in person' say that the AI would be looking through the camera of your scroll.
-[x] Make small talk about who he is, what he wants, and why this is so important. Don't say anything incriminating or about our semblance, let this asshole hang himself. Make sure that you don't let him take you anywhere else.
--[x] He is from a foreign government and is probably both acting here illegally and is knowingly targeting a citizen of Vale. If we can get Vale to arrest him we can get our government to protect us, especially as the fact that we are a genius that made something advanced enough to make atlas's military worry gets out.
As a side note why would telling atlas's military about our weakness be a good idea? I know they don't have to dig very hard to find out, but at least make them work for it.
-[x] Ask Brackett or the process to record everything he says and concurrently upload it to our home computer or a server we can use.
-[x] If he doesn't notice this, also have Brackett send a message to the police, the station guard, and any lines to nearby hunter stations telling them our location and about us being held hostage.
--[x] If we have access to a server give them a link to the uploaded video.
--[x] If possible find the wavelength that the station officers radios operate on and have brackett message them directly.
-[x] Tell him that we developed an AI and that it wanted to meet Penny in person. We are only here as a messenger. Tell him that to our knowledge no one was groomed and that the meeting was entirely voluntary.
--[x] If questioned about 'in person' say that the AI would be looking through the camera of your scroll.
-[x] Make small talk about who he is, what he wants, and why this is so important. Don't say anything incriminating or about our semblance, let this asshole hang himself. Make sure that you don't let him take you anywhere else.
--[x] He is from a foreign government and is probably both acting here illegally and is knowingly targeting a citizen of Vale. If we can get Vale to arrest him we can get our government to protect us, especially as the fact that we are a genius that made something advanced enough to make atlas's military worry gets out.
As a side note why would telling atlas's military about our weakness be a good idea? I know they don't have to dig very hard to find out, but at least make them work for it.
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ADeshantis
King on the Chromium Throne
- Location
- United states
Point of order: the SDC may be assholes but Atlas military is on our side because they're run by Jimmy, who is on Ozpin's side. James might just shoot us if we fuck this up but him knowing how we work will not kill us later because we're going to be a Beacon student soon and under Ozpin's aegis.
- Location
- Null Island
On a OC level I get that, but we do not know that and we have never met either of them. We were just attacked by a foreign military, so I don't think it is an over reaction. Also the way I wrote that plan I'm assuming that if we are not killed then they have 'plans' for us. If they are willing to go this far we have no idea how far they will go. I don't want us to end up chained to a computer in an atlas research lab.
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- Location
- Jaburo
[X] The Truth- just start talking and don't stop until he takes the gun away from your chest or you're dead.
Okay, so I wait until the next day to post and THIS is what you people come up with?
Basically DARING the guy who has a gun pushed into our back to do it?
For one thing, a lot of you seem to be assuming this is Ironwood. It could very well be a FAR less scrupulous as-yet-unidentified Atlesian agent.
For another, the idea that there's no possible way to shoot a man and walk away in a crowded space is downright laughable. During the Cold War, the KGB developed at least THREE silent pistols about the size of a human palm. The S4M, the MSP Groza, and the PSS Silent Pistol. All three chambered modified rifle rounds which used a piston between the propellant and the bullet, which seals the cartridge behind the round, trapping the gases inside and eliminating the sound of firing. The muzzle velocity on these rounds was subsonic, preventing a sonic boom. And just to top it all off, the barrel rifling of the S4M (and probably the other two though I can't find a confirming source one way or the other) was specifically designed to mimic that of a Kalashnikov rifle. Meaning that when an autopsy is done, and the bullet is found, ballistics analyzes it and says they were shot with a rifle from a rather long range. So investigators start checking rooftops and windows and the like, rather than looking for individuals who were in the crowd when the victim was shot. I have no doubt that Atlas could figure out something similar, possibly BETTER with how crazy tech gets in RWBY.
And for one final point, the idea that Atlas wouldn't dare kill a Valean citizen in Vale? ALSO laughable. Because if this guy IS a shady, doesn't officially exist black ops type? Good luck ever proving he was an Atlesian agent and not just a murderer.
And you fools want to ANTAGONIZE the man who already expressed disdain for our snark? Why? What does it gain us? They read the logs of the conversations, which means they already KNOW that Blue and Bracket are an AI.
Okay, so I wait until the next day to post and THIS is what you people come up with?
Basically DARING the guy who has a gun pushed into our back to do it?
For one thing, a lot of you seem to be assuming this is Ironwood. It could very well be a FAR less scrupulous as-yet-unidentified Atlesian agent.
For another, the idea that there's no possible way to shoot a man and walk away in a crowded space is downright laughable. During the Cold War, the KGB developed at least THREE silent pistols about the size of a human palm. The S4M, the MSP Groza, and the PSS Silent Pistol. All three chambered modified rifle rounds which used a piston between the propellant and the bullet, which seals the cartridge behind the round, trapping the gases inside and eliminating the sound of firing. The muzzle velocity on these rounds was subsonic, preventing a sonic boom. And just to top it all off, the barrel rifling of the S4M (and probably the other two though I can't find a confirming source one way or the other) was specifically designed to mimic that of a Kalashnikov rifle. Meaning that when an autopsy is done, and the bullet is found, ballistics analyzes it and says they were shot with a rifle from a rather long range. So investigators start checking rooftops and windows and the like, rather than looking for individuals who were in the crowd when the victim was shot. I have no doubt that Atlas could figure out something similar, possibly BETTER with how crazy tech gets in RWBY.
And for one final point, the idea that Atlas wouldn't dare kill a Valean citizen in Vale? ALSO laughable. Because if this guy IS a shady, doesn't officially exist black ops type? Good luck ever proving he was an Atlesian agent and not just a murderer.
And you fools want to ANTAGONIZE the man who already expressed disdain for our snark? Why? What does it gain us? They read the logs of the conversations, which means they already KNOW that Blue and Bracket are an AI.
- Location
- Null Island
It is a great point that we don't know that this was approved by Ironwood. I also agree that it isn't impossible to get away with assassination especially if you have government resources and training, however we are in a crowded public area with security cameras and security guards at daytime, and he is standing directly behind us. It makes no sense for any agent to take those risks if they wanted the option to kill us to remain open, instead they would have penny meet us and track us after we left. For those reasons I think that it is only a ploy to unerve us. Please let me know if you think I have missed anything.
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Driven by Apathy
Formerly known as Brain_Caster
Where do we talk about antagonizing anyone?
We should comply with his demands (though I'll admit the part of the vote I merely copied can be interpreted differently, I'll edit that part) in some way, at least for now. But we also need to set up things to give us some much needed options if things don't go well.
This is not recklessness, it's preparedness. Something Jaune desperately really needs to learn. Because frankly, he just keeps walking into this kind of situation like a total chump, and I'm really, really getting sick of it.
As for getting ready to use Turn(), the GM will have to decide if it's possible without giving away anything. If it isn't, then we don't.
[x] This vote should be considered an abstention regarding what Jaune says. Regardless on what he says, however, there's a few things he needs to do.
-[x] Record everything for future use.
--[x] Call your family surreptitiously.
--[x] If it's possible to do so without any outward sign that we're doing it, prepare to use Turn() at a moment's notice to avoid getting shot.
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- Location
- Jaburo
Fair point. Honestly the antagonizing him is probably annoying me more than it should, because of two things.
For one, it speaks to a trend in both quest participants and RPG players that I've noticed. Nobody ever wants to play scared. Players always want to "win" every situation, and so they'll do incredibly foolish things out of a weird and misplaced sense of specialness and bravado. And they often get away with it in quests because very few QMs are willing to kill the players for it, as that ends the quest.
For another it's inconsistent. We spilled our guts to Weiss. But now, the shady guy with a gun to our back, who already told us to cut the snark, we lip off to? Why? How on earth is this less scary than that?
- Location
- Hyperborea
I suspect that a lot of people voting for the snark option has forgotten that @Prok is a QM with actual consequences for failure.
Remember, had the Penalty Roll and the Social Roll been reversed, we and Weiss would have been mutually traumatized to the point where we would have permanently lost her as a social link unless we'd ended up as teammates.
We have a gun pointed at us, please don't treat the situation as a joke.
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- Location
- Null Island
[x] This vote should be considered and abstention on what Jaune says. Regardless on what he says, however, there's a few things he needs to do.
-[x] Record everything for future use.
--[x] Call your family surreptitiously.
--[x] If it's possible to do so without any outward sign that we're doing it, prepare to use Turn() at a moment's notice to avoid getting shot.
I kinda regret making that plan. I think it was mechanically sound and I wanted to throw Vale at Atlas to make some problems the process couldn't instantly solve. However I forgot to keep Jaune's character in consideration. He probably wouldn't react with a coherent thought out plan.
-[x] Record everything for future use.
--[x] Call your family surreptitiously.
--[x] If it's possible to do so without any outward sign that we're doing it, prepare to use Turn() at a moment's notice to avoid getting shot.
I kinda regret making that plan. I think it was mechanically sound and I wanted to throw Vale at Atlas to make some problems the process couldn't instantly solve. However I forgot to keep Jaune's character in consideration. He probably wouldn't react with a coherent thought out plan.
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- Location
- Jaburo
A man with a gun pointed at our heart just told us to cut the snark.
So what does everybody do?
Try to snark more.
I believe I should clarify that I'm talking about the overwhelmingly popular "My AI asked your AI on a date" and "You won't shoot me" options.
Recording the conversation is smart. Very smart. Surreptitiously prepping Turn() if it's possible to do so stealthily is also very smart. Calling the family, maybe a good call maybe not, depending on if they panic and distract us at a critical moment. Maybe call our sister, not mom and dad.
Lipping off like a lot of people want to do? Not so smart.
Its just a textbook case of the very first suggestion getting the most votes unless its REALLY stupid. Many saw the update from the author, read the chapter and voted without thinking anymore. They wont come back until the next chapter gets posted so their votes will stay. Now that there is some discussion and different plans they probably will lose to the first onslaught of votes.
Its why many quests lock the votes for 24h+ after the chapter.
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Anger before fear.
This is likely General Ironwood behind us, or there's a not insignificant chance of such. Thus any argument one might make of "Because it's not a (good) named character" are invalid.
Talking to a girl when you wouldn't talk to a guy happens in real life, or vice versa depending on your tastes, so that's... not really an OoC thing.
Third, this is the second fucking time in just as many days this has happened. So instead of a surprised "What the fuck!?" this time it's an angry "What the Fuck!"
Also, if Jaune can't find some way to make sure this never happens again, I'm calling fucking bullshit on Prok. This is the kind of thing that makes people paranoid wrecks or find ways to stop it from ever happening again.
- Location
- Box of Granola bars
And you've convinced me
[X] The Truth- just start talking and don't stop until he takes the gun away from your chest or you're dead.
We could just quote all of them and hope they respond to it.
[X] The Truth- just start talking and don't stop until he takes the gun away from your chest or you're dead.
We have NO confirmation that it's general Ironwood. Why would he even BE out here? That's what field agents are for. We don't even have concrete evidence if he's even with Atlas or not.
We could just quote all of them and hope they respond to it.
- Location
- Jaburo
Based on what? Point me to where in the text there is anything described that is uniqiely Ironwood.
Additionally, Jaune doesn't KNOW Ironwood, certainly not well enough to identify him from this. So even if it is him, that's an insane amount of metagaming and not a valid argument.
With Weiss, she's a famous person, roughly Jaune's age, who Jaune recognized, and who was clearly assuming Jaune was some kind of burglar-cum-stalker and was reacting to that assumption.
With this individual it's an as-yet-unidentified individual whose first interaction with Jaune was very casually threatening to murder him if he makes a wrong move, and is clearly acting in a calculated fashion.
One of these things is significantly more threatening than the other. This is not a situation where one might make a different decision as to talking based on what the threatener's naughty bits are.
- Location
- United states
Anybody else notice that this is literally the second time Jaune has been held at weapon point in the past two days? Wonder if we would get another achievement if this keeps happening.
PsyFarrow
Verified Necrodancer
- Location
- Space
Yes, and the achievement is becoming unable to leave the house without constantly scanning everyone around us.
Seriously, getting held up two days in a row while there's also a serial killer hunting our friend? This is going to leave Jaune pretty damn paranoid.