Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution

Hey, how many PMCs are there?
There's the Blue Suns, Blood Pack, and Eclipse and of course there's us, but that can't exactly be it.

We'll there is Elanus RCS as noted. As there are three less reputable PMCs which tend to do terminus work I imagine there are at least two (more) reputable ones, Elanus being one.

Isn't that the same as looking for "\n[X]" (where "\n" is the newline character)? Does testing actually show worse performance if you look for partial lines or are you guessing?

In a general sense you are entirely correct. I was thinking of the data as being pre-parsed into lines which makes my statement true, but doing that parsing is O(n) with n being the number of chars per post/file/record, so unless you already need to do it for some other reason (handling HTML/BBCcode?, eh probably not) it doesn't save any time. However, I honestly have no clue how the data is stored exactly. Parsing is probably not needed so is still O(n). I was thinking more in terms of the human algorithm, as the data is pre-parsed by the display, silly me computers don't care about that :).

Re: immortality: Can we at least get to be old enough to drink before talking about freezing our age? :)

Revy can legally drink, SA uses laws closer to European ones for this... I've mentioned this a few times, haven't I? She chooses not to, because er parent creatively manipulated her away from that. (Drunk Science=Parental Nightmare)

Also, I was wondering if the idea of an airborne battle/carrier had any merit.

It's called an assault frigate 'round these parts, you own one. They also double as spaceships as that makes them particularly useful.

If we were a dragon I wouldn't make such a fuss about our gear but we are unfortunately not, unless the great GM allows for the Awakening bringing forth the Sixth age to happen when Revy is on Earth and for some reason for Revy to have a chance as wakeing up as a Dragon.

SR stuff is purely used because of design overlap (Biotics works sort like magic, cybernetics is a thing), so no Awakening. Otherwise I'd have to have random parts of the galaxy having active magic if I recall the lore correctly. Which could be interesting... but messy.

@Hoyr Is our Mom fighting too?

As militia/reserve.

Mindoir is a farming planet with basically no notable structures outside it's cities. So the enemy forces have to cross thirty kilometers over what is almost certainly mostly clear-cut farmland.

Correct, note that the ship's defenses also get a similar benefit.

How much armor and vehicle support are we expecting to go up against?

While the exact mix will very the fighter and vehicle complement of craft that size are often measured in the thousands.

Also, what's the yield of the Hydra's submunitions?

With out a long hard think:
Pilum around 21 Megajoules (5kg tnt)
Sagitta around 6.2 Kilojoules (1.5g tnt)

Give or take an order of magnitude.

Orbital supremacy is great since we can just bombard the Dreadnought from orbit with our Lite Laser Pyndas. There are two up there and each can shoot 10 rounds per second from their spinal MAC. Some quick calcs put a 90m MAC at ~4.2 kilotons per round.

Do note that despite the general consideration that MAC weapon's damage output should scale purely linearly, they don't (even in RL). While there are lots of real world reasons I could evoke and I may fluff them the real reason is the setting seems to say they don't, otherwise space combat would be quite different. Focusing not on large ship spinals but many smaller ships, or if other factors are in play (like shields) divide he gun into multiple barrels, as we can see with the dreadnought broadside, which if power scales linearly would be worth nearly 7 times it's spinal making it by far the better weapon.

The only downside might be range if the smaller guns designs can't find a way to make up for the speed (fire 2kg shots not 20kg shots, done. May have damage pattern issues?), which could reduce range by a factor of 10 or so with linear scaling. With given combat descriptions though that does seem like a big deal, range in ME space battles can very over three to six orders of magnitude over the course of one fight. Something about being able to upscale in other ways allow better guns on larger scales. Also a lot of the point of those "bigger gun" techs.

Mass Effect all the holes, all of them.

Regardless the SA does agree that the best way to attack fortifications (especially ones with lasers) is by bombarding them from orbit.
 
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SR stuff is purely used because of design overlap (Biotics works sort like magic, cybernetics is a thing), so no Awakening. Otherwise I'd have to have random parts of the galaxy having active magic if I recall the lore correctly. Which could be interesting... but messy.

Well, messy can be fun, and it gives us more reason to be cautions and consider any options we have for blocading and controlling Relays or else.


That is of course if Revy can be awaken as Dragon because she is a magic space fairy already, and Dragon Revy would be awesome.


All that aside, it would give a very interesting problem in the have to solve right fucking now, or else Earth goes to shit in a hand basket and the Reapers coming wont look that big of a problem as certain Shadowrun threats meeting the Relay system.

It would be interesting if we could get all ducks in a row before the Reapers manage to compound our problem with their arrival.

And yes, exploration and magical happenings in the galaxy would be a good debate of should we open relays and deal with magical situations outside Earth,most likely the only awakening place in the citadel, and see how the Citadel reacts to that.

A non magic ME tech predisposed Citadel (at least initially, pre Revy attention) would make a nice mirror to the Terra Firma boys after all, and like biotics we may be able to crack some induced magic into non magical creatures or tech to make it even more fun, after we deal with impeding DOOM (TM) situations like Great Ghost Dance and others.


Plus when the reaper come preventing them from getting to Magic would probably be paramount, so the mad scramble once they get here would be even greater as while most likely non magical, Reapers have the industrial wherewithal to abuse the shit out o even the tiniest reverse engineered or studied magic and applied to magitech, especially considering their architecture and being made of people and all that.
 
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Indeed, there are plenty of things to deal with in the ME universe already; no need to add in the Sixth World just to have something to do.

Besides, even if we do go that route then Revy is going to just plain miss the boat on the Awakening side of things, unless she Goblinizes during a trade show or something. There's no way she's becoming a Dragon or something, not without a lot of bastardization of canon: Great Dragons handled the mana downcycle by hibernating deep under the Earth, not by morphing into humans or something. About the best we could hope for in terms of a connection would be to discover that one of Revy's parents was an immortal elf or something, and found a way to keep the mana warp of deep space from destroying his or her ability to do magic while off of Earth.
 
How economical could we make this?

An AC Stonehenge? Very.

I mean, it's basically a battery of anti orbital cannons, which are already a thing in ME. About the only difference between the two is that Stonehenge guns are apparently fully rotatable, unlike the very fixed mounts of ME.

The problem is that right now we don't have the time to build it, and it's a major bombardment target.
 
An AC Stonehenge? Very.

I mean, it's basically a battery of anti orbital cannons, which are already a thing in ME. About the only difference between the two is that Stonehenge guns are apparently fully rotatable, unlike the very fixed mounts of ME.

The problem is that right now we don't have the time to build it, and it's a major bombardment target.
So are campus shields, but we're still working toward those anyway.

Also, I'm also thinking of it in terms of Prompt Global Strike. Provide fire support or the ability to fire and hit any target around the globe in one hour or less.
 
So are campus shields, but we're still working toward those anyway.

Also, I'm also thinking of it in terms of Prompt Global Strike. Provide fire support or the ability to fire and hit any target around the globe in one hour or less.

You'll need more than 1 Stone Henge for that on an Earth like planet... Eh, you'd need that anyway. You'd want at minimum three of the things for full orbital coverage.
 
You'll need more than 1 Stone Henge for that on an Earth like planet... Eh, you'd need that anyway. You'd want at minimum three of the things for full orbital coverage.
Well, that's kinda the idea. If we can build even one, Landing would be so absurdly well defended that it would be almost cheating. However, if we can make it "cheap" than we could build more of them. Four or even two of them would make Mindoir almost unassailable.
 
Indeed, there are plenty of things to deal with in the ME universe already; no need to add in the Sixth World just to have something to do.

Besides, even if we do go that route then Revy is going to just plain miss the boat on the Awakening side of things, unless she Goblinizes during a trade show or something. There's no way she's becoming a Dragon or something, not without a lot of bastardization of canon: Great Dragons handled the mana downcycle by hibernating deep under the Earth, not by morphing into humans or something. About the best we could hope for in terms of a connection would be to discover that one of Revy's parents was an immortal elf or something, and found a way to keep the mana warp of deep space from destroying his or her ability to do magic while off of Earth.
You know, rethinking this a bit, it could be possible to have the Sixth World Awakening happen on ME-Earth. At this point you'd probably be forced to Goblinize all of metahumanity, rather than just the orks and trolls, since you don't have decades for dwarves and elves to be born and raised (and thanks to Perfect Human they'd probably just be immediately treated for "birth defects" anyway.) None of that would happen anywhere other than Earth, naturally, since it's exposure to Earth's manasphere that causes humans to Goblinize, and the manasphere doesn't even extend into LEO, let alone the rest of the galaxy. Great dragons could awaken sometime in the following year or so, and like in canon 'Uncle' Dunkelzahn can give his big interview and explain to the world (and the galaxy) what a mana downcycle is and why strange crap is happening now.

Of course, the result wouldn't be anything like the world of Shadowrun, even before Revy and PI come into play. The first big result will be a mass exodus of humanity to the stars, as the comfortable rut everyone is stuck in is upset by Earth becoming crazy and hostile. Nearly all of SA's leadership is on a space station in another star system, so they won't be affected, while many of Earth's nations will have their leadership disrupted by people Goblinizing; that'll encourage people to put more trust in the SA than they do even in canon, which ironically should keep everything on Earth a lot more stable because at least the government is safe and someone has the distance to have a clear head. The biggest consequence to us is that Project Earthfall would be in big trouble due to the unrest and uncertainty.

What we absolutely can't do is have the mana upcycle affect the entire galaxy; that's just way too much complication. I mean, humanity alone splitting into four metahuman subspecies, and dozens of sub-races for each, and a whole slew of newly rediscovered magical traditions coming about, is all complicated enough. If you have that happen to every one of the ME alien species too? Madness; madness and pain. That means no meta-aliens, and no magic-using aliens (other than space magic). It also means no metahuman Revy, which means we'll have a peripheral interest at best unless Revy's dad turns out to be an immortal elf or something (if her mom was one she'd have never risked military service and their security screening).
 
The problem with ground based AA cannons is that they're stationary and are vulnerable to high-velocity soft-kills. Now, against pirates, this isn't such an issue as they're unlikely to fire off MACs into a planet to take out AA guns(the only thing that will fire at a velocity sufficient to ensure a destroyed AA gun before it can respond in time) due to the fact that the collateral damage would destroy much of what they want to seize, like colonists. Against any kind of serious military force, we'd want our AA guns to be mobile platforms capable of evading incoming fire, as well as area shields capable of protecting large population centers.

Of course, this is a long term idea, it's not going to be useful in the here-and-now.
 
Translation: as soon as possible we want to pick up:

UV Lasers
Miniaturized Energy Weapons
Variable WL Lasers

so we can have Tiger-sized vehicles flying around with laser-GARDIAN weapons capable of taking out attacking spacecraft.
 
Translation: as soon as possible we want to pick up:

UV Lasers
Miniaturized Energy Weapons
Variable WL Lasers

so we can have Tiger-sized vehicles flying around with laser-GARDIAN weapons capable of taking out attacking spacecraft.

We also want QEC and possibly a brain shield (if attackers have any Reaper artifacts). The problem is that it is two quarters, not one.
 
QECs, being of strategic importance, are more needed. If we had them, this attack (unless many other worlds are also being attacked simultaneously) would have encountered a whole fleet in orbit.
 
QECs, being of strategic importance, are more needed. If we had them, this attack (unless many other worlds are also being attacked simultaneously) would have encountered a whole fleet in orbit.
Well, not really. The rest of the SA knew exactly as much as Mindoir did during the 24-hour period where we had "gone dark": namely, that comm service was interrupted. Even with QECs there's really nothing more we could have done to get a force here early; QECs are more of a way to keep invading forces from preventing distress calls during an in-progress invasion.

As I mentioned before, the Standard Operating Procedure by the SA Navy should be to send a fleet along whenever the comm buoy network in an area goes down; after all, we know from canon that fleets are stationed at Relay nexuses for precisely this reason. The fact that the SOP hasn't happened in this case, despite a full 24-hour blackout, is a sign that something else is going wrong. Perhaps there is a major disruption in the comm buoy network across many worlds; that would be the method I'd choose to keep th SA from being able to respond effectively. Even in that case, however, we should have seen a fleet arrive by now, since Mindoir is of such strategic importance to the SA military thanks to PI and now ParSec both being headquartered there, which tells me that either the Relays themselves have been compromised or that there are multiple simultaneous invading forces for the SA to deal with, and aren't those cheery thoughts.
 
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This assumes, however, that 24 hour delay in communication is unusual. How often do comm buoys transfer data packets? We don't really know. We know that spectres and other high ranking officials can have real time communication, but whether this is due to the comm buoys constantly transmitting data, or if it is due to them forcibly making comm buoys transmit data, is a question. It is quite possible that no one in SA has, as of yet, heard that Mindoir has gone quiet.
 
This assumes, however, that 24 hour delay in communication is unusual. How often do comm buoys transfer data packets? We don't really know. We know that spectres and other high ranking officials can have real time communication, but whether this is due to the comm buoys constantly transmitting data, or if it is due to them forcibly making comm buoys transmit data, is a question. It is quite possible that no one in SA has, as of yet, heard that Mindoir has gone quiet.
Hm, that seems like a really bad way to run an FTL comm network, especially one that has enough bandwidth to handle real-time video comms. I mean, the very first thing to do with such a network is to send keep-alive packets so that central operators know immediately of any disruptions; those sorts of packets should be even higher-priority than Spectre high-priority access, for exactly the reasons seen here. Moreover, if a 24-hour delay in communications is that routine, then:
  1. The cruiser fleet in orbit wouldn't have bothered to note it.
  2. The SA would be sending twice- or even four-times-daily mail packet ships through the Relay network, or doing something else to regularly keep tabs on its colonies, because the comm buoys wouldn't be reliable enough to support their choke point strategy.
I guess this *could* be part of a Batarian first strike against the SA before the SA becomes even stronger.
Pretty sure it's the Geth "heretics", and the SA is scrambling to respond to a major comm network outage, as well as hit-and-run attacks on even higher priority targets, like Beckenstein, Terra Nova and Benning/Arcturus. If the Batarians had anything like this planetary invasion dreadnought in their arsenal--even if it turns out to be a "land once" version--then it's absolutely inexcusable that Revy would not know anything about it.
 
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This assumes, however, that 24 hour delay in communication is unusual. How often do comm buoys transfer data packets? We don't really know. We know that spectres and other high ranking officials can have real time communication, but whether this is due to the comm buoys constantly transmitting data, or if it is due to them forcibly making comm buoys transmit data, is a question. It is quite possible that no one in SA has, as of yet, heard that Mindoir has gone quiet.

AFAIK, developed worlds get pretty much realtime connections, certainly enough for a regular ping across the network.
 
Hm, that seems like a really bad way to run an FTL comm network, especially one that has enough bandwidth to handle real-time video comms. I mean, the very first thing to do with such a network is to send keep-alive packets so that central operators know immediately of any disruptions; those sorts of packets should be even higher-priority than Spectre high-priority access, for exactly the reasons seen here. Moreover, if a 24-hour delay in communications is that routine, then:
  1. The cruiser fleet in orbit wouldn't have bothered to note it.
  2. The SA would be sending twice- or even four-times-daily mail packet ships through the Relay network, or doing something else to regularly keep tabs on its colonies, because the comm buoys wouldn't be reliable enough to support their choke point strategy.

Pretty sure it's the Geth "heretics", and the SA is scrambling to respond to a major comm network outage, as well as hit-and-run attacks on even higher priority targets, like Beckenstein, Terra Nova and Benning/Arcturus. If the Batarians had anything like this planetary invasion dreadnought in their arsenal--even if it turns out to be a "land once" version--then it's absolutely inexcusable that Revy would not know anything about it.
It's possible that Mindoir is not sufficiently developed enough to warrant a comm buoy of its own. I'm very surprised that the SA didn't set one up, but then we're only one company, and comm buoys are very VERY expensive. Maybe we should have paid for one of our own.
 
It's possible that Mindoir is not sufficiently developed enough to warrant a comm buoy of its own. I'm very surprised that the SA didn't set one up, but then we're only one company, and comm buoys are very VERY expensive. Maybe we should have paid for one of our own.

Except that Mindoir is close to member status in the SA parliament, so it should be fairly developed.
 
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