Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution

Nice @UberJJK!

Only thing I'll comment on its that @Hoyr is incredibly unlikely to let us get away with a 1 GW laser rifle, given our 90 meter frigate gun is limited to 18 GW right now. Probably 50 MW, with 5 MJ "bursts" are the best we'll be able to get, maybe with an upgrade to 100 MW/10MJ when we research Unobtanium.
 
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Goes to do other things... see multi-page thing about mechs... *sigh* :(

Hey, I was just wondering. How much of the human body could we technically replace with prosthetics? How good can we make those prosthetics?

If a soldier was crippled but they want to keep fighting could we theoretically give them bionic arms of equal or greater capability than their old fleshy arms? If all else fails, would they be able to trade their limbs for the ability to pilot a sort of Mechanized Exoskeletal Cybersuit?

There is a full body prosthetics tech.

Though limb cloning and replacement was a thing in the hospital in ME3 wasn't it? I definitely recall some random NPC losing a limb and treatment options being discussed, though it might have been just a prosthetic.

Aren't we already selling weapons to the turians?

Arc-reactors not weapons. IIRC.

Actually it might be best if we just ask @Hoyr what the costs and capabilities of the mechs are?

They're giant robots? News at 11.

More seriously they're a legacy item on the tree. It would cover any design that used either a giant robot arm or giant robot leg (tentacle, limb, etc). I can't think of a particular reason to take them. Thus my earlier comment about how I would never get to make a mechwarrior reference.

The only upside is that looking at things I think the Mech techs gets you bigger vehicles for less RP past the first.

I'm not asking Hoyr to remove mechs from the tech tree because its not my place to dictate what is allowable in this quest. Obviously I'm not going to advocate voting for it, but my point here isn't in trying to dictate how Hoyr runs his quest, it was to argue against a misconception you had on why mechs are ideal platforms for civilian use.

Mechs where put on by a past GM, GM number one for that mater... yeah I'm number 3. So yeah.. sometime I'm cleaning up Bioware's mess some time my own and other times it's other GM's messes. Its great. You should have seen my thoughts on the improved warheads tech one I understood all of it. I think the could be summed up as, "No, no, I refuse to let time traveling anti-matter infantry missiles be a thing."

I wish @Hoyr would weigh in here, just to help resolve this.

Eh sorry had other things to do, also reason update is delayed its like 90% done. Just need to do one part, but it's on I want to spend a little time on.

How much production would it take to make a Loki?

About 1 point give or take? Probably ~0.9.

Miniaturized Energy Weapons - Part I

Any now for something completely different! Have some RP.

Only thing I'll comment on its that @Hoyr is incredibly unlikely to let us get away with a 1 GW laser rifle, given our 90 meter frigate gun is limited to 18 GW right now. Probably 50 MW, with 5 MJ "bursts" are the best we'll be able to get, maybe with an upgrade to 100 MW/10MJ when we research Unobtanium.

Wait... what? 1GW? On an infantry gun? The Tiger has a 1MW right now... infantry guns would probably be around that or less. It's not like that won't char though a human in 0.1 seconds... oh wait it will! And they'll explode. Or at least the part you aimed at will. So probably less like 100kW... because going though 7cm of armor in a tenth of a second is good enough.

Maybe more if its big gun.
 
Hrm. Maybe raise the power from 100kw, to ~3-400 but make it only fired in a fraction of a second long bursts? Because a tenth of a second is a decently long time, and we are unlikely to be able to aim at the exact spot for very long.



Though, I might be underestimating how large 7cm or armor is.
 
Sometimes, Liara wondered.

Her best friend, and if her own father and Revys mother had their way, wive, could be strange at times.

She wasn't even thinking of her casually overturning millenia of scientific 'fact' because some people said she couldn't.

Like the current situation. It was a fairly normal day. She was perusing the Martian archive using the absolutely disgusting amount of processing power Revy made available for her when she decided to visit Revy.

Athame knew the girl would forget to feed herself if she didn't remind her.

Which bought her to the current situation. Revys office now sported new scorchmarks.

Many, many scorchmarks.

And a madly cackling Revy.

She was getting distressingly used to these situations.

Before she could open her mouth and ask what the hell was going on, a small drone buzzed through the room, before promptly exploding as Revy stared at it.

Eyelasers. The crazy woman developed cybernetic eye lasers.

Without saying another word, Liara turned around and left the office. She was too sober for this crap.
 
Hey guys, if we get transformation systems, do you guys think having some sort of "variable fighter" would be a good idea?
 
Its been mentioned, though it seems like it would be more from fighter to tank, than from fighter to mech.
 
A better use of Transformation Systems would be vehicles and drones with Variable Weapon Systems, aka Megaman's arm rifle.

Need a laser rifle? You got it. Need a Particle Beam cannon? Here it is. Need a MAC that fires miniature black holes? Sure. Need a tool to flash-forge nanometer thick steel carbide throwing blades?
 
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Though, I might be underestimating how large 7cm or armor is.

7.45 cm of Tungsten. So about two and three-quarters of an inch. Just short of 3 inches. IIRC MBT frontal armor gets to around 33cm or just shy of 13 inches. So ~22.8% of the MBT's armor.

Assuming we take the surface are of the human body to be ~1.7m2​... (1.7 * 10,000 [to cm2​] * 7.45 [Depth] * 19.3 [Density of Tungsten] / 1000 [to kg]) My math tells me that's around 2,444.345 kg of Tungsten. Not quite right but in the right neighborhood.

Carbon would be lighter, but it's still a lot of armor. 5.67cm depth. ~218.5 kg carbon, go carbon for being really light!

100kW would make an infantry man a threat to a Tiger. Not much of one... but still capable of harm.

Do note that aim is computer adjusted and stuff. Though if you have useful spot time notes I'd be interested.

Edit: the 2.75" figure was for 7cm not 7.45cm
 
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im mean a 37.5% (33/24) increase in thickness is not too absurd, especially with the mass effect making performance impact less of a problem. and if that thickness is what you need to protect against a hit, its what you use.
I thought QM was basing around RL. And I'm fairly sure MTB armor never gets that thick, not in anything that goes to production.

Also, bulk.
 
  • Legs - An incredibly dumb thing to put on a vehicle, the only reason you see these in biology is because biology can't make treads and wheels. Legs raise your center of gravity far more than necessary for the amount of locomotion they provide, making your mech a bigger target than necessary.
  • Feet - Another horrible idea that only works for biology because it's never figured out anything better. Horrible contact patch size, wear out quickly, poorly balanced.
...sooooo, a snail is your ideal organism is what you are saying?
 
...sooooo, a snail is your ideal organism is what you are saying?

In fairness if you were to analyse a human body like a machine it contains innumerable design flaws. It has horrendously shoddy construction, absurd inefficiencies, thousands of failure states, barely any optimisation, and horrendous energy consumption. Kind of a botch-job all round.
 
In fairness if you were to analyse a human body like a machine it contains innumerable design flaws. It has horrendously shoddy construction, absurd inefficiencies, thousands of failure states, barely any optimisation, and horrendous energy consumption. Kind of a botch-job all round.

And yet it works. So many people forget about keeping that part in mind.
 
In fairness if you were to analyse a human body like a machine it contains innumerable design flaws. It has horrendously shoddy construction, absurd inefficiencies, thousands of failure states, barely any optimisation, and horrendous energy consumption. Kind of a botch-job all round.
Compared to what? i don't think we've got any self repairing multi-role self sustaining humanoids with limited adaptability that outperform it.
 
It may have some... design flaws, but the reasons for a number of design flaws let us excel in other areas.
 
More like ~240mm. 33cm of armor would be hella expensive and heavy.

Add-ons like reactive armor add a lot of thickness.

I was basing that one one of the few tid bits I had found for maximum armoring. Which said 33cm on the front. Mind that's the front only the rest has less armor from what I recall.

Compared to what? i don't think we've got any self repairing multi-role self sustaining humanoids with limited adaptability that outperform it.

It's more that individual parts are inferior to compatible examples on the "market". Having to manually fix the appendix is a classic example of poor design.

The human eye is also meh. What nut thought it was a good idea for the nerves to grow into the eye? Plenty of eye designs work better than that!

Or some I'm told anyway.
 
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