Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution

the Hulkbuster need:
the modular thing that the MK 43 use
the Tesseract-lite Arc reactor for power
the unit beam tech
and probably more powerful armor considering the thing was built to deal with a giant Gamma power rage monster

Don't we already have hyper modablity?

Pretty sure we can just put in extra arc reactors or just scale the main one up.

Well this one's not going to be specked up that high just to be designed to be a heavy infantry variant on the Legionaire (more armor more weapons more shields less mobility) and maybe make it like a orbital drop pod.

On a related note we could probablybuild Veronica pretty quickly we already have the hyper modablity oh he would have to do is look into flash forgeing tech ( something that all omnitools have)
 
On a related note we could probablybuild Veronica pretty quickly we already have the hyper modablity oh he would have to do is look into flash forgeing tech ( something that all omnitools have)
the Hulkbuster with a giant omnitools
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hahahahahahaha
i pity the pool fool that going to have to fight against something like that
just imagine the Hulkbuster with access to all the different omnitool app and weapon like the exploding tech armor
man that would be hilarious to see
 
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The Hulkbuster is pretty much useless to us except as a statement of the ultimate expression of our technology. It's big, bulky, expensive and does not improve combat odds against its expected targets by a sufficient margin compared to standard Legionary armour.
 
The Hulkbuster is pretty much useless to us except as a statement of the ultimate expression of our technology. It's big, bulky, expensive and does not improve combat odds against its expected targets by a sufficient margin compared to standard Legionary armour.
and it would take a shit ton of damage to put down
and do remember that the normal Hulkbuster was only equip with a rapid fire fist and a uni-beam or 2 along with some missile, thing that was mean to put down the Hulk
we actually armed the thing with a balance load out mean to deal with normal people and it would wreck any one day
it like a giant sign that said "shoot here or i'll wreck your shit"
 
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and it would take a shit ton of damage to put down
and do remember that the normal Hulkbuster was only equip with a rapid fire fist and a uni-beam or 2 along with some missile, thing that was mean to put down the Hulk
we actually armed the thing with a balance load out mean to deal with normal people and it would wreck any one day
it like a giant sign that said "shoot here or i'll wreck your shit"

So basically it's a 1 person heavy vehicle in a situation where our line infantry are expected to wear 1 person medium vehicles with sufficient combat capability to take down the heavy if we presume equal expensive in material and training through numbers, if nothing else. And against the standard opponents Legionaries will face a Hulkbuster is basically either a humongous target or sheer overkill concentrated in a single point that could be far better handled by spreading the fun around if you want to be the most combat effective.


The Hulkbuster does have a place.

It's just not on the Mass Effect field of battle, where it's role can be performed just as adequately for a similar enough cost by the Tiger, with the added bonus that the Tiger is a long range combat and single stage to orbit capable drop shuttle.
 
Concerning hypothetical food needs for planets, go with genetically-enlarged goats instead of cows/cattle. Goats have better/ more efficient digestive systems then cows do, produce less methane and waste as a result, and can as a bonus depending on goat species eat pretty much anything. Scale a goat up to cow size with some lite genetic engineering, and you got plenty of meat.

We in the western world eat cow bc it's a reflection of how rich as a society we can afford to be inefficient (in the old days the poor/middle class ate goat meat). It would make sense colonists from Earth settling other worlds would go for efficiency, instead of the rather wasteful cow.
 
The Hulkbuster is pretty much useless to us except as a statement of the ultimate expression of our technology. It's big, bulky, expensive and does not improve combat odds against its expected targets by a sufficient margin compared to standard Legionary armour.

Hulk buster is the name not the load out. a Hulk buster would have Far more armor and a much larger shield capacity and recharge due to the fact that we can cram in quite a few arc reactors in it. and with the added size we can add in a huge amount of goodies like EW suites, laser weapons Countless plumes repulser weapons massive omini blades Long range communication.

Basically what this suit would be is the Elite variant of the legionary a Front line command unit that will cause massive panic anywhere it is near ,seriously a Legionary has an easy 100 to 1 combat superiority ratio. A hulk buster would be many times that in power and available weaponry can you imagine what will run though the opponents mind when they see it? and with the added size we can Mod it extensively for each mission.

this purposed suit would also be a great personal suit for Revy as there would be very few if any capable of damaging it out side of an orbital bombardment. considering how we nearly got our ass kicked by the biotic guy assaulting our base i think it time the gloves came off in suit design if only for Revy to crush who ever else wants to have a go at her

Also one more purposed project Omni Tools. we already have them and they are already widely used i imagine if we take a look at them we can market an improved model for civilians and a military vairent with Omni blades and Omni sheilds ( yes these exist we see the shadow broker with one) the Alliance already has these we just need to create and lisience the programs necessary to run them
 
What's the point of making power armor that fills the role of a tank when we already have tanks.

1 faster much much faster
2. more agile
3. smallar target
4.psychological advantage
5. more tactical options
6.still allows operator to interact with environment
7. indoor combat
8. (if space worthy) boarding parties
9.It's awesome
10. High proairty VIP's ( Like Revy) are basically impossible to kill while inside
11. Answer to any and all elite opponents we might face
12. did i mention it's awesome?
 
A good way to put it is this: the larger suit would basically be a ymir mech. With a person inside. Which is much faster than you, and laughs off anything lighter than a rocket, and the rocket does as much good as a pistol to the original ymir.
 
A good way to put it is this: the larger suit would basically be a ymir mech. With a person inside. Which is much faster than you, and laughs off anything lighter than a rocket, and the rocket does as much good as a pistol to the original ymir.

which can regen shields faster due to the absurd power bank it has
 
Concerning hypothetical food needs for planets, go with genetically-enlarged goats instead of cows/cattle. Goats have better/ more efficient digestive systems then cows do, produce less methane and waste as a result, and can as a bonus depending on goat species eat pretty much anything. Scale a goat up to cow size with some lite genetic engineering, and you got plenty of meat.

We in the western world eat cow bc it's a reflection of how rich as a society we can afford to be inefficient (in the old days the poor/middle class ate goat meat). It would make sense colonists from Earth settling other worlds would go for efficiency, instead of the rather wasteful cow.
...I feel like I should point out we are already gene modding food animals... there was a whole thing about gene modded Salmon a bit ago (you can find stuff on Youtube about it, just do a search for "Salmon Super Food" or something)
 
How many drones we have:

PI-SDC-01A

Role - Anti-Starship Duties

Weaponry
  • 6x RT-01-100E thrusters
Defensive Systems
  • 6x RT-01-100E thrusters
Power System
  • 1x Paragon Industries Arc Reactors (5GW)
Engine System
  • 6x RT-01-100E thrusters
Additional Systems
  • Advanced Paragon Industries VI system providing full Fire Control as well as Remote and Autonomous operation.
Cost - 400,000cr
Production - 2.2

Description:
The Accipiter is the ultimate next generation space warfare drone. It's minimalistic design consists solely of six Paragon Industries Repulsors attached to a Paragon Industries 5GW Arc Reactor with the minimum computer technology required to function.

This allows the Accipiter to fit within it's never before seen dimensions. At 30cm aside it's the smallest combat drone known to exist. That however doesn't stop it from been one of the most deadly. While lacking in the traditional mass accelerator or missile capability most drones possess the Accipiter's use of the Kzinti Lesson more then makes up for this.

Through the use of it's low thermal signature and high acceleration, along with optional Arcane Blur, the Accipiter stealthily closes on enemy ships. Once within range it slices an opening into the hull and enters the ship, allowing it to avoid GARDIAN defenses. After gaining entry the Accipiter uses it's Repuslors to rapidly destroy key systems, such as the reactor, before a response can be mounted.

PI-SDC-01B

Role - Anti-Personnel, Anti-Vehicle, and Anti-Structure Duties (Kasumi: Death Bot. It's a Flying Death Bot!)

Weaponry
  • 6x Reduced Quality (7kN) RT-01-100E thrusters
Defensive Systems
  • 6x Reduced Quality (7kN) RT-01-100E thrusters
Power System
  • 1x Paragon Industries Arc Reactors (5GW)
Engine System
  • 6x Reduced Quality (7kN) RT-01-100E thrusters
Additional Systems
  • Advanced Paragon Industries VI system providing full Fire Control as well as Remote and Autonomous operation.
Cost - 200,000cr
Production - 1

Description:
The Lesser Accipiter was designed in response to the need for a planetary combat drone while limited in available production. While the compromises made to the Repuslor systems to lower the Lesser Accipiter's costs have dropped it's maximum acceleration down to 1km/s/s this does not effect the Lesser Accipiter's combat ability due to it's limitation to atmospheric use.

The Lesser Accipiter's combination of range, size, and maneuverability make it's a deadly foe on the battlefield. Attacking at distances where enemy soldiers struggle to detect it and dodging fast enough that even those lucky enough to notice it are unable to retaliate.

PI-SDC-01B

Role - Anti-Personnel

Weaponry
  • 2x Single Shot Pilums
  • 6x Sagitta launch tubes (800 missiles default)
Defensive Systems
  • 6x RT-01-50E thrusters
Power System
  • 1x Paragon Industries Arc Reactors (5GW)
Engine System
  • 6x RT-01-50E thrusters
Additional Systems
  • Advanced Paragon Industries VI system providing full Fire Control as well as Remote and Autonomous operation.
Cost - 300,000
Production - 1.6

Description:
The Sagittarius is the nightmare of the pirates and slavers across the galaxy. Armed with two Pilums even IFVs and bunkers are no refuge against it's wrath.

The Sagittarius' primary weapon is a set of six Sagitta, it's name sake, launchers providing it with three hundred and sixty degree coverage. Each of it's eight hundred Sagitta is capable of killing anyone not wearing either a Legionary or an elite military hard-suit in a single shot, and even the latter will fall with multiple shots.

This makes it ideal for clearing out the underground bunkers so often favored by pirates, slavers, and many other illegal groups.

What all of them have in common is a lack of passive defence (Lorica-armor or shilds).
Actively they can shoot down incomming granates, plasma and rockets using Sagittas or Repulsors.

Speaking of protecting VIPs: Desining a small drone with shilds tailored to protect individuals or block ways (as seen in ME3 with the students and their stationary shild generator).
 
1 faster much much faster
How. It's bipedal. Wheels are a much faster method of locomotion.
This thing can put out enough delta v to jump back into orbit. Agility is not an issue.
How is it both smaller and yet more heavily armored? Hell, it's a taller target, it'd be easier to hit.
4.psychological advantage
We're dealing with soldiers, not a fucking kindergarten. They're not going to be intimidated because your heavy unit is a slightly different shape.
5. more tactical options
The only thing it can do that a tank can't is punch someone, and there's not goddamn situation in which a tank of equivalent is going to need to be engaging in CQC unless it's being commanded by a goddamn commissar.
6.still allows operator to interact with environment
It's a battle, not a fucking easter egg hunt. There is no situation in which your tank is going to need to be picking things up where that time couldn't be better spent killing things.
It's not going to fit in a building.
8. (if space worthy) boarding parties
It's definitely not going to fit in a spaceship. Also, it's not going to be able to reach a spaceship because ships are thousands of kilometers apart. Boarding parties are not a thing in ME.
Nooope. Seems to be cornering the market on idiotic, though.
10. High proairty VIP's ( Like Revy) are basically impossible to kill while inside
what the fuck, do you expect people to wear a goddamn tank to press conferences
11. Answer to any and all elite opponents we might face
No, because there's no reason that we couldn't strap the same amount of armor and firepower to a tank and not have to deal with the inherent design flaws of a mech.
12. did i mention it's awesome?
See number 9.
 
What all of them have in common is a lack of passive defence (Lorica-armor or shilds).
Actively they can shoot down incomming granates, plasma and rockets using Sagittas or Repulsors.

They don't really need them.

Look at this video:


Imagine trying to hit that. Except accelerating at 1km/s/s.

The Lesser Accipter can quite literally move out of the way of any projectile in 300 microseconds. Even if the oncoming projectile is moving at 10km/s, a ludicrous figure for a weapon fired inside an atmosphere, it will still have only moved 3 meters. Basically the only thing that can hit one is a laser and even then it would need to be computer controlled since a human wouldn't be able to keep up.
 
Hulk buster is the name not the load out. a Hulk buster would have Far more armor and a much larger shield capacity and recharge due to the fact that we can cram in quite a few arc reactors in it. and with the added size we can add in a huge amount of goodies like EW suites, laser weapons Countless plumes repulser weapons massive omini blades Long range communication.

Or you can use a Tiger based squad of Legionaries for all the same advantages combined with much greater mobility.

Besides, more weapons does not equal better. There's a limit to how much firepower a person can operate at once before you need to automate the entire thing from target recognition on up.

Basically what this suit would be is the Elite variant of the legionary a Front line command unit that will cause massive panic anywhere it is near ,seriously a Legionary has an easy 100 to 1 combat superiority ratio. A hulk buster would be many times that in power and available weaponry can you imagine what will run though the opponents mind when they see it? and with the added size we can Mod it extensively for each mission.

... You do not want to give your command elements the biggest, most powerful and most obvious suit on the battlefield. That's asking for a decapitation strike, destroying your command ability and heaviest guns in a single blow, which means a major morale loss. The thought of the enemy when a Hulkbuster shows up? "Drop the battalion's air support on the guy and they'll break."

this purposed suit would also be a great personal suit for Revy as there would be very few if any capable of damaging it out side of an orbital bombardment. considering how we nearly got our ass kicked by the biotic guy assaulting our base i think it time the gloves came off in suit design if only for Revy to crush who ever else wants to have a go at her

This is about the only sensible use of the thing. And even then it's only so because Revy is actually a skilled combatant.

1 faster much much faster

Why? Energy output per mass isn't going to be bigger, so it's not going to accelerate any better.


Nope, Tigers are hover capable vehicles. A short hop with some lateral thrust will allow it to dodge better than... pretty much anything.


Only in length of the vehicle. It's almost certainly going to be taller, which is a major issue on a battlefield.

4.psychological advantage

Not that big of one.

5. more tactical options

Compared to what? A tank? Tanks are all equipped with the same gun and everything else because they work as a standard loadout. Our Tiger is already a fast moving tank/assault chopper hybrid, a humanoid mech isn't going to offer more capability there.

6.still allows operator to interact with environment

Not that big an advantage, you'd want a Hulkbuster to work with Legionaries anyway.


Too cramped for most weapon systems the Hulkbuster would carry.

8. (if space worthy) boarding parties

Same problem as with indoor combat.


Is it practical?

10. High proairty VIP's ( Like Revy) are basically impossible to kill while inside

This is true. But frankly, what's a VIP doing on the battlefield in the heaviest weapon platform?

11. Answer to any and all elite opponents we might face

The answer to elite opponents is not 'better weapons.' It's 'better training so they don't play you like a bunch of chumps,' along with good equipment.

12. did i mention it's awesome?

Did I note it doesn't seem practical?

A good way to put it is this: the larger suit would basically be a ymir mech. With a person inside. Which is much faster than you, and laughs off anything lighter than a rocket, and the rocket does as much good as a pistol to the original ymir.

Good thing the Legionary is much faster than you, laughs off anything lighter than a rocket, and the rocket is about as useful as a rifle round, isn't it? Especially when said Legionary carries weapons that can slaughter infantry and has a multiple shot missile launcher that flattens most vehicles with one shot already.
 
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This thing can put out enough delta v to jump back into orbit. Agility is not an issue.

so it can duck, weave, crouch, jump, shift it's mass and roll? thats one flexable tank
How is it both smaller and yet more heavily armored? Hell, it's a taller target, it'd be easier to hit.

Because all that armor is around one person as opposed to surrounding an enitre chasise and seats.

We're dealing with soldiers, not a fucking kindergarten. They're not going to be intimidated because your heavy unit is a slightly different shape.

You just saw a 100 of your buddies wasted by a guy in a suit of armor then this suit of armor shows up Biger badder more guns and even harder to kill ... i dont know about you but that would demoralize me. and one more thing eventaily our opponents are going to get a hold of /design their own suits. have a suit thats capable of defeating multiple lesser suits is a major advantage in comeing conflicts

The only thing it can do that a tank can't is punch someone, and there's not goddamn situation in which a tank of equivalent is going to need to be engaging in CQC unless it's being commanded by a goddamn commissar.
1.Pick up cover/debris and move it
2. improvise weapons
3. Giant Omni blades ( anti tank/ whatever else the QM trows at us)
4. Omni tool acessabality
5. med gel dispersal to allies
6. and more
It's a battle, not a fucking easter egg hunt. There is no situation in which your tank is going to need to be picking things up where that time couldn't be better spent killing things.

Hmm so picking up the objective ( THE PURPOSE OF THE BATTLE) is not worth the time? Opening doors, manipulating the enviorment, and outher such things are not worth time?
It's not going to fit in a building.

what? it's the size of the atlas/ymir suit/mech those fit in almost any building. exspeacaily as it can maniuver like a human

It's definitely not going to fit in a spaceship. Also, it's not going to be able to reach a spaceship because ships are thousands of kilometers apart. Boarding parties are not a thing in ME.

1. a ymir mech would fit inside the Normandy quite easily and its a frigate
2. it can maniuver like a human so it can make it's self smaller
3. and why cant we make it viable? mod a fighter to carry a Hulkbuster payload and there you go you can land on the ship and from there cause chaos.
4. we make it possible and not a single fleet has an answer for us

what the fuck, do you expect people to wear a goddamn tank to press conferences
Revey: I'm in sign me up!!!
Wrex: I'll take ten
on a more serious note think of it more like a panic room that can kill things
No, because there's no reason that we couldn't strap the same amount of armor and firepower to a tank and not have to deal with the inherent design flaws of a mech.
because the tank cant react as fast as someone hooked into a suit via Neural linking ( link to the brain) and it's far more obviouse as to what the tank is gonna do. if we put a tank verus the biotic guy the tank's shots we be diverted and thrown off balence, as the biotic gets in CIC range the tank literaly has nothing it can do as the biotic tears it apart. in the same situation a Mech is harder to perdict, it can react faster, and has CIC options


... You do not want to give your command elements the biggest, most powerful and most obvious suit on the battlefield. That's asking for a decapitation strike, destroying your command ability and heaviest guns in a single blow, which means a major morale loss. The thought of the enemy when a Hulkbuster shows up? "Drop the battalion's air support on the guy and they'll break."

Becuase you can hit a 7~10 foot target that can fly and duck into buldings with that much fire power accurately. and if that air strike fails their thoughts go " well shit now we're screwed"

This is about the only sensible use of the thing. And even then it's only so because Revy is actually a skilled combatant.

Revy is a teenager. a genius teenager with a lot of tech yes but a teenager. give someone enough time with the system and revy's enhancements and they will become just as if not more fearsome then her.
Too cramped for most weapon systems the Hulkbuster would carry.Same problem as with indoor combat.
dosent have to be we have Modification for a reason

The answer to elite opponents is not 'better weapons.' It's 'better training so they don't play you like a bunch of chumps,' along with good equipment.

the answer to elite opponents is elite allies with infinity+1 equipment.
 
Guys, the killer app related to Hulkbuster isn't the ability to Lego-build yourself into a 5 meter mech like Tony; it's the ability to dial up a new mission loadout on the fly. Need a giant laser? Here it is. Need a pair of missile pods? Ready and waiting.

The hulkbuster suit wasn't the star of that scene: 'VERONICA' was.
 
Oh my god, why are you so bad at typing.
so it can duck, weave, crouch, jump, shift it's mass and roll? thats one flexable tank
The goal of those actions is simply to move quickly in another direction. It can't perform those exact actions, but giant who cares because it can perform actions that fulfill the same role and are more effective at that role anyway.
Because all that armor is around one person as opposed to surrounding an enitre chasise and seats.
If you want a snug power armor fit, then you can't actually make this thing very large. Too big and the "sleeves" will be too big for the operator's limbs.
You just saw a 100 of your buddies wasted by a guy in a suit of armor then this suit of armor shows up Biger badder more guns and even harder to kill ... i dont know about you but that would demoralize me. and one more thing eventaily our opponents are going to get a hold of /design their own suits. have a suit thats capable of defeating multiple lesser suits is a major advantage in comeing conflicts
Y'see, in that very example the actual demoralizing factor was taking heavy casualties. Y'know what's good at inflicting casualties? Tanks.
1.Pick up cover/debris and move it
2. improvise weapons
3. Giant Omni blades ( anti tank/ whatever else the QM trows at us)
4. Omni tool acessabality
5. med gel dispersal to allies
6. and more
1. You stop to do that, you get shot. A faster unit, like a tank, could simply speed between the existing cover.
2. Why the fuck is your tank replacement going to be using some random piece of scrap metal.
It's a tank. It has very large guns. It's fighting things meant to withstand shots from those very large guns. You have other, better weapons than a large piece of metal, and you are fighting things which will not be affected by a large piece of metal.
3. Ignoring how terrible an idea it is to send a tank into melee combat, if you really needed omni blades you could just strap a few to the front of a conventional tank.
4. ...Why not just use, like, a regular omni tool? The one that the dude driving the tank in wearing?
5. ...A giant mech is not going to have the dexterity to act as a goddamn field medic.
6. For only $19.99!
Hmm so picking up the objective ( THE PURPOSE OF THE BATTLE) is not worth the time? Opening doors, manipulating the enviorment, and outher such things are not worth time?
If your objective is to obtain some object from an enemy, that thing is basically never not going to be indoors. And, as previously noted, this Hulkbuster would not fit indoors.
what? it's the size of the atlas/ymir suit/mech those fit in almost any building. exspeacaily as it can maniuver like a human
Okay, see, this is mutually exclusive to being as well armored as a tank. You want to fit indoors, you're gonna have to strip off a lot of that armor. You want to have stupid amounts of armor, you're gonna have to make yourself too big too fit indoors.
1. a ymir mech would fit inside the Normandy quite easily and its a frigate
2. it can maniuver like a human so it can make it's self smaller
3. and why cant we make it viable? mod a fighter to carry a Hulkbuster payload and there you go you can land on the ship and from there cause chaos.
4. we make it possible and not a single fleet has an answer for us
1. See above.
2. Sooo, what, it would be crawling the entire time or something? That's, like, you're not going to be able to fight effectively that way. You could repel the boarding action by just giving one of your engineers a blowtorch and a pistol and telling them to go slice the idiot out of the power armor they got stuck in a doorway.
3. This is idiotic. Fighter tactics involve firing massive swarms of missiles all at once to overwhelm GUARDIAN point defense. There is no sane reason to expect that a massive, relatively slow moving mech is going to reach an enemy ship in any form other than scrap and vapor, and we are not going to waste time developing a way to change that instead of developing things that have some basis in practicality, sanity, and basic intelligence.
4. You're not going to make it possible.
Revey: I'm in sign me up!!!
Wrex: I'll take ten
on a more serious note think of it more like a panic room that can kill things
"A panic room that can kill people" is not the worst idea I've ever heard, but it'd be better to use an actually practical system as opposed to a Hulkbuster. Probably a moot point anyhow seeing as keeping armed tanks around for personal use is probably illegal.
because the tank cant react as fast as someone hooked into a suit via Neural linking ( link to the brain) and it's far more obviouse as to what the tank is gonna do. if we put a tank verus the biotic guy the tank's shots we be diverted and thrown off balence, as the biotic gets in CIC range the tank literaly has nothing it can do as the biotic tears it apart. in the same situation a Mech is harder to perdict, it can react faster, and has CIC options
What? A: we don't have neural linking I don't think, B: even if we did you could just implement it into a useful tank.
Why is it more obvious what a tank is going to do. If anything it'd be harder to tell what it's going to do seeing as it won't have all the subtle tells that a biped would. With the Hulkbuster, if you want to quickly move to the side you'll be shifting your feet, leaning towards the side, that sort of thing. With one of our tanks, you just key up the space magic drive, and apply delta v in the desired direction.
Lastly... okay first off, no, a biotic cannot do that, if a biotic tried to deflect a tank shot they'd turn into red mist. As well, if they could do that to a tank, there's no reason they couldn't do it to a Hulkbuster. Hell, it'd be easier to stagger a Hulkbuster with its less stable bipedal frame.
Becuase you can hit a 7~10 foot target that can fly and duck into buldings with that much fire power accurately. and if that air strike fails their thoughts go " well shit now we're screwed"
A: it still can't duck into buildings, B: our tanks can already fly and would be faster than the Hulkbuster on the ground, C: you underestimate how fast both missiles and bullets are.
dosent have to be we have Modification for a reason
So, like, removing the weapons needed to fulfill its role as a tank
 
Or they could be tank grown? Energy is relatively cheap with fusion being available, after all.

Citation needed. Humans dabbled in uplifting, and human genemodding is widely accepted, as long as new traits aren't introduced - and that's for sapient species. I don't remember anything about crop genemodding being shunned.

Well, they could be tank grown, but you are not going to get the same quality/texture of 'free roaming', along with the possibility of people simply not liking the idea having that kind of meat, like people refusing to buy meat made from battery hens or from other animals that they consider raised in a stressful environment in the name of lowered prices.

About human genemodding: Miranda mentions that because of the fact that her entire genome was spliced together wholesale, her existance is technically illegal, hidden by the fact that her farther was a rich man who either went to a Cerberus front gene lab or one that was underfunded and flashed enough cash to get them to do it and the fact that she is still 100% human.

Also Joker was concieved with extreme case of brittle bone disease and had only enough gene mods to reduce it to the level were he could survive, but considering that they could create Miranda, it implies that most if not all medical establishments will only provide gene mods if the child cannot survive without it and there does seem to be limits to how much they willing to modify.

There is also a woman who you can talk to in one of the games who complains that the genemods that the Alliance uses to boost their soldiers abilities take ten years to set in and are not available to public, as she asks why is it they do not modify humans before they are born if they wanted 'supersoldiers'- it was probably a stealth reference to Halo, now that I think about it....

Humans experimented with uplifting and then more or less outlawed it due to ethical and moral reasons, with only a few still surviving from the experiments or, again, owned by people who could flash enough cash at the right people or keep it to themselves.

I cannot remember were it is right now and I am on my PSP, so I cannot do hyperlinks...

I think it might be under something like 'genetic modification' or 'systems alliance government' but there was mention of genetic modification of Earths natural ecosystem being heavily resricted to the fear of Earths ecosystem being replaced by an 'alien' one, which was made when they found alien ecosystems and then actual aliens.

I'm not too sure about the shunning either, but considering that ME kinda/sorta tries to apply at least some modren day concerns like climate change, expressly mentioning that humans live longer and have a cure for cancer, I'm assuming you would still have people going 'say no to GMO!' and those would try their best to avoid eating anything made out of a lab.

You might find humans with 'illegal' gene mods on colonies out in the Terminus, but as a whole, ME tends to avoid the higher end parts of transhumanism, preffering to avoid stuff like 'adding cat ears just for the hell of it'.
 
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Concerning hypothetical food needs for planets, go with genetically-enlarged goats instead of cows/cattle. Goats have better/ more efficient digestive systems then cows do, produce less methane and waste as a result, and can as a bonus depending on goat species eat pretty much anything. Scale a goat up to cow size with some lite genetic engineering, and you got plenty of meat.

We in the western world eat cow bc it's a reflection of how rich as a society we can afford to be inefficient (in the old days the poor/middle class ate goat meat). It would make sense colonists from Earth settling other worlds would go for efficiency, instead of the rather wasteful cow.

No need, they have Space Cows, which are a bizarre cross between a kangaroo and a cow.

You come across one called 'shifty looking space cow' which steals your money if you try to talk to it and turn around.

Apparently the easter egg was put in because one of the guys in charge of development said 'I do not trust a mammal that can massage its own mammery glands without mechnical assistance'.

.....Which reminds me, one of the proposed ways of avoiding the methane genaration was to try to add kangaroo dna and gut bateria to cows, as kangeroos have more or less the same diet, except that they do not produce methane....this was honestly proposed in RL recently.

If it does not work, we could try convincing everyone to eat kangaroos instead...

EDIT: Oh god...giant goats...giant, evil, head butting goats....
 
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And actually quite tasty, surprisingly enough.

Question is...is there anyone with big enough balls to go and snag a few and have them cloned?

I mean, I am kind of assuming that the Outback is just as dangerous in the 170+ year difference between RL and ME.....

Can you imagine the guys in accounting?

Accountant: Revy, there is something I would like to ask you.
Revy: What is it?
Accountant: Why have you paid ten million credits to just one person?
Revy: Oh, I needed him to catch ten thousand kangaroos.
Accountant: Kangaroos? But why the price?
Revy: Hazard pay.

Mind you, there should be. If a crazy red headed girl asked you to go there to tranquilise ten thousand kangaroos for ten million credits, the girl is going to get her damn kangaroo collection.
 
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