Shepard Quest Mk VI, Technological Revolution
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It is interesting but it would make Mindoir more of a target than it already is in not just the war with the Reapers but the Batarians as well. Then again by making it more important the Alliance would devote more resources to protecting it. Speaking of which does anyone have any ideas on how to avoid the war or at least make it a quick one?
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Kill them quickly?
Well, with our current frigate deisgn the speed it has is simply unreal, and if we can get them a good gun to punch really hard they will be a monster.
The thing we ought to do is get them in mass production, and with a fleet of them SA would be able to project force like mad. The speed is ludicrous on them and with a gun to punch a bit above their weightless a pair of them should take a cruiser with ease, and a wolfpack should be high speed murder
Then accelerating Legionaire production and producing some reentry sheet, or device or whatever would allow for fast Legionaire squad deployments that can ensure beachheads and catch ships and people unaware via this high speed deployment.
Its not a build to kick Batarians in pitched battles, and whatnot but a build that can cover the Terminus with SA strike elements be they fleet or ground. The speed that they can deploy and pass through the regular battle line system and deploy Powerarmour in a nonorthodox fashion would allow to hardcounter any kind of raid or pirate tactics or strategies. This is of course contingent on the mass orbital insertion and 4xtop speed frigate fleets being a almost complete surprise.
With that done the Batarian Hegemony proper might want to get into a war but would have to consider that Humans are now the undisputed masters of raiding and piracy considering that Humans beat the greatest concentrations of Raiders and pirates into submission. If they deploy their fleets inside Terminus suppressed systems or human space, this high speed fleets and armies will trade ground for time and penetrate inside Hegemony territory making a terrible terrible mess of things smashing up infrastructure with a speed that will go down in history as some of the most one sided fights considering numbers disparity.
And by then we can develop some guns to mount on cruisers that can punch a fleet in the teeth and kill of Hegemony fleets if they do get in the fight proper.
The problem would be that the SA has basically conquered the Terminus Systems, and is now basically a human ruled multispecies polity. Culturally its going to be a mess unless we can integrate them and make them happy with our rule,having to push our ties with Sitra and Scarcity Society into aiding infrastructure, healthcare, education buildup and such in the Terminus all under SA governance. That is going to be a mess.
But we want at least two or three more quarters so we can do Liara's Protean artifact quest to have it on Paragon Industries HQ and then give it back as a statement, finish FRM tree so we do not get legionnaire and frigate knockoffs to the pirates, and a Gun and heavy space Gun research to bulk up forces + reentry sheet research and production - preferably reusable.
The thing we ought to do is get them in mass production, and with a fleet of them SA would be able to project force like mad. The speed is ludicrous on them and with a gun to punch a bit above their weightless a pair of them should take a cruiser with ease, and a wolfpack should be high speed murder
Then accelerating Legionaire production and producing some reentry sheet, or device or whatever would allow for fast Legionaire squad deployments that can ensure beachheads and catch ships and people unaware via this high speed deployment.
Its not a build to kick Batarians in pitched battles, and whatnot but a build that can cover the Terminus with SA strike elements be they fleet or ground. The speed that they can deploy and pass through the regular battle line system and deploy Powerarmour in a nonorthodox fashion would allow to hardcounter any kind of raid or pirate tactics or strategies. This is of course contingent on the mass orbital insertion and 4xtop speed frigate fleets being a almost complete surprise.
With that done the Batarian Hegemony proper might want to get into a war but would have to consider that Humans are now the undisputed masters of raiding and piracy considering that Humans beat the greatest concentrations of Raiders and pirates into submission. If they deploy their fleets inside Terminus suppressed systems or human space, this high speed fleets and armies will trade ground for time and penetrate inside Hegemony territory making a terrible terrible mess of things smashing up infrastructure with a speed that will go down in history as some of the most one sided fights considering numbers disparity.
And by then we can develop some guns to mount on cruisers that can punch a fleet in the teeth and kill of Hegemony fleets if they do get in the fight proper.
The problem would be that the SA has basically conquered the Terminus Systems, and is now basically a human ruled multispecies polity. Culturally its going to be a mess unless we can integrate them and make them happy with our rule,having to push our ties with Sitra and Scarcity Society into aiding infrastructure, healthcare, education buildup and such in the Terminus all under SA governance. That is going to be a mess.
But we want at least two or three more quarters so we can do Liara's Protean artifact quest to have it on Paragon Industries HQ and then give it back as a statement, finish FRM tree so we do not get legionnaire and frigate knockoffs to the pirates, and a Gun and heavy space Gun research to bulk up forces + reentry sheet research and production - preferably reusable.
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Don't we have that deal with CH going on? When we construct the first frigate, it should be assigned to our own security forces rather than sold to anyone else. Actually, the model we give to everyone else should probably have things like hard engine governors. If we advance things too fast, bad things would happen and I quite like the idea of our PMC being a head and shoulders more advanced than even the System's Alliance.
Also, the names for the PMC. I'm going to insist on something like either Executive Outcome or Celestial Being. Those sound like the best outcomes.
Also, the names for the PMC. I'm going to insist on something like either Executive Outcome or Celestial Being. Those sound like the best outcomes.
Even if limited at a 2x Speed its going to be blinding fast on a strategic scale especially without the need for regular fuel logistics.
But we might need to finish FRM so we can pull that off without trouble.
And for these Frigates to change the way a war would go so we can end it fast they need to be in large numbers and unexpected by the opposition, thus the whole demonstration and such should be top secret, and the speed only revealed to even captains and crew only just before the strike to take advantage of the strategic surprise, probably with a initial limiter of 1.1x or 1.2x and then changing it with a upgrade to 1.9x or 2.1x times the fastest citadel ship. (add: Hell we could build them so the max is 2.2x so when some clever bastard removes the last limiter they can redline them a bit harder)
As for the numbers i would guess we need them at approaching the hundred and all of them in the Terminus campaign for it to succeed. And then only if a pair can take down a cruiser with ease or fight off a frigate wolfpack.
Legionnaires ,they will be needed in the tens of thousands, and two deployment doctrines, full Legionnaire Squads and Infantry Groups for Drops and Platoon/Squad support Legionnaire Duos. for Garrison, Guard and COIN.
The PMC i would want the name Renegade Interrupt. Why because like Paragon Industries in the Liara omakes it can be misinterpreted and misleading. Is it renegades that interrupt something or is it a interruption of renegades? Also there are a lot of sex jokes that can be made so easily that its so golden its almost tacky.
But we might need to finish FRM so we can pull that off without trouble.
And for these Frigates to change the way a war would go so we can end it fast they need to be in large numbers and unexpected by the opposition, thus the whole demonstration and such should be top secret, and the speed only revealed to even captains and crew only just before the strike to take advantage of the strategic surprise, probably with a initial limiter of 1.1x or 1.2x and then changing it with a upgrade to 1.9x or 2.1x times the fastest citadel ship. (add: Hell we could build them so the max is 2.2x so when some clever bastard removes the last limiter they can redline them a bit harder)
As for the numbers i would guess we need them at approaching the hundred and all of them in the Terminus campaign for it to succeed. And then only if a pair can take down a cruiser with ease or fight off a frigate wolfpack.
Legionnaires ,they will be needed in the tens of thousands, and two deployment doctrines, full Legionnaire Squads and Infantry Groups for Drops and Platoon/Squad support Legionnaire Duos. for Garrison, Guard and COIN.
The PMC i would want the name Renegade Interrupt. Why because like Paragon Industries in the Liara omakes it can be misinterpreted and misleading. Is it renegades that interrupt something or is it a interruption of renegades? Also there are a lot of sex jokes that can be made so easily that its so golden its almost tacky.
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We could build them so the maximum is 2.2x or so and do the software upgrade to 2.1x from 1.2x for free. Why? because it will allow for greater SA funds to be made on more frigates, and we are not out to rob the SA. We can let the last 0.1x out as a software imbalance or glitch out that can be tinkered with by crews, who want even more performance.
Of course we could go for a secondary order of 50 or 100 frigates once the software upgrade is done to increase the fleet and to cover the upgrade as something not planned and to give a second wave of super fast ships to subjugate the terminus with. The money would be stated to be for the upgrades and then surprise its another fleet of fast frigates.
PKRudeboy
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Guys, guys, name the PMC Executive Outcomes.
Why the hell do people want to name our PMC after what was essentially the South African secret police in exile? Executive Outcomes was formed by a former CCB officer and was made up of soldiers from units disbanded when apartheid ended. The CCB was pretty much the closest historical analogue to Cerberus you can find.
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I'm going for the Eve Online Corp rather than the real example.
That light green one on the right. It shares a boarder with Fatal Ascension and Goonswarm.
This sounds like a challenge to me >
It also sounds like foreshadowing.. I think we really need to come up with some way of defending our bases from orbital bombardment, as well as some way to shoot down enemy frigates from the ground. Either that, or we need to get our frigates online and defending our shit faster.
I also think that we need our own frigate ASAP, even if it doesn't have good guns. I'd even be good for just buying a frigate and doing minor upgrades, but we absolutely need to have a safer way for Revy to travel from system to system.
*Edit* I also like ParSec as a name more than anything else being quoted.
Ok, so, onto actual voting (reasoning after the voting).
Invest in security? 1 million per building per quarter (amount will be the same for any "high security" buildings)
[X] Yes
Who do you want to get your PMC license from?
[X] Systems Alliance (1.5 million in total fees)
PMC Name?
[X] Paragons
[X] Gaver Dor
[X] Starship parts (200 million credits, 100 points to next level of starship tech, Bradley now gets 265,000 per Production)
[X] Nah, stay in/near the capital
[X] Video
[X] At the Paragon Industries complex
--[X] Maybe show some of your labs (nothing sensitive) to them too?
What got you into science and engineering in the first place?
[X] A great ambition: I wanted to save the galaxy. From hunger and war, enemies and disasters. I wanted to help people - human and otherwise, and the best way to do this is through science. By advancing our understanding of the laws of nature, by creating new technology, I want to make sure that everyone I know, everyone I love, and everyone I have never heard about, had a brighter tomorrow. Oh, and, of course, inborn curiosity - I wanted to understand how things worked.
Where did the idea for the Legionary armor come from?
[X] I simply wanted to keep myself, my men and all the good people I decided to sell to safe. Everything else was just a logical extension of already existing technologies.
What can you tell us about the arc-reactor (and/or other PI technologies)?
[X] Basic layman's explanation
--[X] Some anecdotes from the development stages would work well too
What do you think the effects of the arc-reactor will be on society?
[X] Hopefully, it'll make people more free, and, pardon the pun, create a brighter tomottow. Energy was always one of the greatest constrains on civilization. With advent of arc reactor technology one might dream that this constraint will become far less tight. I understand and appreciate potential turmoil sent through the economies and, thus, societies, by appearance of a revolutionary power source, but it is my firm belief that in the end we all will be better off for having this technology at our disposal.
And on the military?
[X] I am unsure what Alliance Military would think about one of their contractors speculating on how their equipment would affect the battlefied, or how much any such speculations would be worth, but I think that Arc Reactors will certainly lead to longer engagements, both on the local and strategic levels, as well as more "mobile" combat. The two main advantages Arc Reactors have are their energy resource and lack of logistical trail - my creations work, and work, and work, and need nothing to keep working. As such, they allow machinery they are installed in, from a single trooper in a Legionary suit to a fleet of warships, to operate ceaselessly without any need for supply chain, for a very, very long time.
What should we expect to see next from Paragon Industries?
[X] Obviously I can't disclose all our plans, but let me say this: Paragon industries stands for better tomorrow, for everyone, not just for military. And I can promise you this: you will remember our next thing for a long, long time.
Who's you favorite historical scientist?
[X] It is hard to say, for science is not, and should not, be about people, but rather about the discoveries and the journey towards the great unknown, but Dirac, I would say.
What will you do?
[X]Keep investigating without the information
-[X] 250 million
Can I get some links to the worked out research plans and our economic situation? I can't really make my proposals for spending and selling without those. I would like to say that I want to donate to post scarcity society, and to give turians a discount. Comments about the update a bit later and as a separate post.
Invest in security? 1 million per building per quarter (amount will be the same for any "high security" buildings)
[X] Yes
Who do you want to get your PMC license from?
[X] Systems Alliance (1.5 million in total fees)
PMC Name?
[X] Paragons
[X] Gaver Dor
[X] Starship parts (200 million credits, 100 points to next level of starship tech, Bradley now gets 265,000 per Production)
[X] Nah, stay in/near the capital
[X] Video
[X] At the Paragon Industries complex
--[X] Maybe show some of your labs (nothing sensitive) to them too?
What got you into science and engineering in the first place?
[X] A great ambition: I wanted to save the galaxy. From hunger and war, enemies and disasters. I wanted to help people - human and otherwise, and the best way to do this is through science. By advancing our understanding of the laws of nature, by creating new technology, I want to make sure that everyone I know, everyone I love, and everyone I have never heard about, had a brighter tomorrow. Oh, and, of course, inborn curiosity - I wanted to understand how things worked.
Where did the idea for the Legionary armor come from?
[X] I simply wanted to keep myself, my men and all the good people I decided to sell to safe. Everything else was just a logical extension of already existing technologies.
What can you tell us about the arc-reactor (and/or other PI technologies)?
[X] Basic layman's explanation
--[X] Some anecdotes from the development stages would work well too
What do you think the effects of the arc-reactor will be on society?
[X] Hopefully, it'll make people more free, and, pardon the pun, create a brighter tomottow. Energy was always one of the greatest constrains on civilization. With advent of arc reactor technology one might dream that this constraint will become far less tight. I understand and appreciate potential turmoil sent through the economies and, thus, societies, by appearance of a revolutionary power source, but it is my firm belief that in the end we all will be better off for having this technology at our disposal.
And on the military?
[X] I am unsure what Alliance Military would think about one of their contractors speculating on how their equipment would affect the battlefied, or how much any such speculations would be worth, but I think that Arc Reactors will certainly lead to longer engagements, both on the local and strategic levels, as well as more "mobile" combat. The two main advantages Arc Reactors have are their energy resource and lack of logistical trail - my creations work, and work, and work, and need nothing to keep working. As such, they allow machinery they are installed in, from a single trooper in a Legionary suit to a fleet of warships, to operate ceaselessly without any need for supply chain, for a very, very long time.
What should we expect to see next from Paragon Industries?
[X] Obviously I can't disclose all our plans, but let me say this: Paragon industries stands for better tomorrow, for everyone, not just for military. And I can promise you this: you will remember our next thing for a long, long time.
Who's you favorite historical scientist?
[X] It is hard to say, for science is not, and should not, be about people, but rather about the discoveries and the journey towards the great unknown, but Dirac, I would say.
What will you do?
[X]Keep investigating without the information
-[X] 250 million
Can I get some links to the worked out research plans and our economic situation? I can't really make my proposals for spending and selling without those. I would like to say that I want to donate to post scarcity society, and to give turians a discount. Comments about the update a bit later and as a separate post.
I don't think we currently have any kind of consensus for a long term research plan - the new techs invalidated the old one. The Tech planning doc has UberJJK's old plan and TheEye's updated plan.
Given how we've derailed events, it seems to me that the Skylian Blitz will happen on Midnoir.
Yeah, especially since most of the votes we've seen so far are invalid because they're either incomplete, choosing multiple items in the "Choose one" categories, or both. I don't know why everyone feels like they need to blast out an incorrect vote; I thought people on this thread were better than that.
That reminds me, @Hoyr is there any problem with incorporating our PMC in both Citadel and SA space? I imagine this isn't usually done, as it's expensive, but politically it could be useful for potential clients to contract with one or the other (SA millitary, for example, would likely go with ParSec Alliance, but an Asari might want to use ParSec Galactic instead).
@Hoyr has them on the front page, but here:
Finances
Tech planning document (note that, for the moment, my plan is the only one with accurate values for our projected RPs by quarter; @UberJJK hasn't updated his side since Esbilon was in charge).
Not as much as you'd think; the only bits in my plan that needed changing was adding Hyper-modularity early (as a mining tech it may help decrease the price of eezo, which will be awesome for us) and changing some of the larger starship techs. Heck, our change to 2173-Q3 tech research was a bigger shock, as I'm probably going to have to put the Mark II suit in there somewhere.
I do not see a reason for why we cannot have all three scientist and getting both underground and the big site.
I mean, Krogan Scientist is awesome but the technology he brings is the least revolutionary, least imaginative. Meanwhile both the Quarian and the Asari could basically revolutionize how shields function, and all three together would make a quantum leap in shields and force field application.
Also if we get all three scientists a research option could start or end with :
"A Krogan, a Asari and a Quarian walked into a bar..."
Can later be amended to be more specific and say a Human bar, since if we conquer Terminus we are going to have the most cool, dangerous and multicultural bars and clubs in the known 'verse
I mean, Krogan Scientist is awesome but the technology he brings is the least revolutionary, least imaginative. Meanwhile both the Quarian and the Asari could basically revolutionize how shields function, and all three together would make a quantum leap in shields and force field application.
Also if we get all three scientists a research option could start or end with :
"A Krogan, a Asari and a Quarian walked into a bar..."
Can later be amended to be more specific and say a Human bar, since if we conquer Terminus we are going to have the most cool, dangerous and multicultural bars and clubs in the known 'verse
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Cteatus
A Guy Who Fell Down a Hole
The Asari manipulates the bartender into poisoning the Krogan and berates the Quarian for trying to help. Or is that not how you remember the rest of the joke?
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*Thump* *thump* *Screeeeech*
"The Asari and quarian stop, the Krogan keeps walking through."
Ok, some thoughts on the choice of scientsists:
1) Asari one likely has the best education, and the most grounding in theory. She might or might not be a spy.
2) Quarian is a spy. To be more precise - quarian will get at least some information back to flotilla. It's how they work. He likely has the most engineering knowledge of the three. He probably has benefited from at least some online courses.
3) Krogan isn't a spy simply because there is no krogan government to spy for. He likely has some theoretical background simply by dint of the long lifespan and knowlegde accumulation. He's least likely to be aware of the cutting edge technologies and scientific breakthroughs.
Both the quarian and the krogan are likely to be more engineering inclined than asari. Asari could be good politically, and krogan could be interesting politically, if we show a krogan scientist to be successful. If we promote him at some point to be a head of one of Paragon industries branch... Well, we could forge him into an icon for krogans, a picture of krogan success, working together with the rest of the galaxy, not against it.
I want asari because I'm a plasma physicist, but, well, krogan gives more options.
On the subject of technologies, I see our priorities as:
1) Liara's artifact - for plot reasons. It's relatively cheap and a good plothook.
2) Optical computing.
3) QEC - we have gone over this before, but I'll add the fact that QEC allows one to make a very good distributed computing networks and networks in general. Combining optical computing with QEC should give us a significant boost to computer modeling which would be good for research (QEC being needed to spread the bonus to off-MIndoir sites)
4) Black Boxing - security, security, security, paranoia
5) Eternal youth - for political reasons, to divert attention from our other projects, etc. Plus, the moral component (every moment it remains undeveloped costs lives)
6/7/8) TIR - it opens the path to stealth in space and thermal annihilation, which is important for many things, such as ground installations - heat is normally a problem, if it isn't, things change a lot
6/7/8) Hyper modularity - not just for combat, but for civilian technology
6/7/8) Invisible Man - as part of stealth doctrine
9) Lasers
AI licensing I think should wait until we dropped eternal youth and advanced xenobiology on the galaxy. Then we should have enough good will to get that done easily.
1) Asari one likely has the best education, and the most grounding in theory. She might or might not be a spy.
2) Quarian is a spy. To be more precise - quarian will get at least some information back to flotilla. It's how they work. He likely has the most engineering knowledge of the three. He probably has benefited from at least some online courses.
3) Krogan isn't a spy simply because there is no krogan government to spy for. He likely has some theoretical background simply by dint of the long lifespan and knowlegde accumulation. He's least likely to be aware of the cutting edge technologies and scientific breakthroughs.
Both the quarian and the krogan are likely to be more engineering inclined than asari. Asari could be good politically, and krogan could be interesting politically, if we show a krogan scientist to be successful. If we promote him at some point to be a head of one of Paragon industries branch... Well, we could forge him into an icon for krogans, a picture of krogan success, working together with the rest of the galaxy, not against it.
I want asari because I'm a plasma physicist, but, well, krogan gives more options.
On the subject of technologies, I see our priorities as:
1) Liara's artifact - for plot reasons. It's relatively cheap and a good plothook.
2) Optical computing.
3) QEC - we have gone over this before, but I'll add the fact that QEC allows one to make a very good distributed computing networks and networks in general. Combining optical computing with QEC should give us a significant boost to computer modeling which would be good for research (QEC being needed to spread the bonus to off-MIndoir sites)
4) Black Boxing - security, security, security, paranoia
5) Eternal youth - for political reasons, to divert attention from our other projects, etc. Plus, the moral component (every moment it remains undeveloped costs lives)
6/7/8) TIR - it opens the path to stealth in space and thermal annihilation, which is important for many things, such as ground installations - heat is normally a problem, if it isn't, things change a lot
6/7/8) Hyper modularity - not just for combat, but for civilian technology
6/7/8) Invisible Man - as part of stealth doctrine
9) Lasers
AI licensing I think should wait until we dropped eternal youth and advanced xenobiology on the galaxy. Then we should have enough good will to get that done easily.
If the asari and quarian worked and Paragon Industries they would have kept walking too.
Our own Gala Da'van, Jenzel Fend nar Rayya, Gaver Dor, can all walk through anything and not smash in it or fall over when drunk, thanks to Centurion Armour without even feeling anynthing on scale or skin.
I want all three. Because its going to be fun to have the three of them working as a collective, and the political benefits of all thre of them are awesome. Sure the Quarian is going to pass some to the Flotilla but through him we can get the flotilla to favor Pragon industries for pilgrims in engineering and such, and broker deals between SA and the Flotilla.
The Krogan is a obvious cultural icon in the making, and the Asari brings best SCIENCE! and a second character to influence Asari in the Traverse aside from Liara, when we do go to war.
Plus its going to be easier if we have all three of them working together since if they are spies or not they are going to spy on one another mostly, we get the results and the tech gets disseminated as far and wide as possible. Its shield tech, ffs, we want it as widespread as possible so as many people as possible survive and as many people as possible can make it when the Reapers come. All without us compromising on leaking such powerful technology to everyone. We want the Flotilla to get best shields since it means more quarian live, we want the Citadel to get it too, since they are the most populous, and we want everyone to get it also since Paragon Industries is the best option to get weapons that can crack those super shields the three of them will develop and the only one to be able to power them via Arc Reactors.
We do not want to be seen giving potential paradigm shift technology to peoples that are not on everyone approved list, or without consultation, but if it does happen we get the potential to make even more money and spread our influence far more than we could have had since its going to be our arc reactors that power those shields,and our weapons that pierce and bring them down fastest.
AI license prep doesn't mean we are researching AI tech; it means we get bonuses to fighting off AI hacking attempts. IC this means anti-Geth measures; OOC this might mean anti-Reaper measures, and is probably a pre-req for any anti-indoctrination tech that we'll ever come across. It's a big priority, though you're right maybe not an immediate one.
QECs are going to be expensive; definitely not the sort of thing you'll see integrated into a server blade in order to make multi-planet distributed compute cores. We also don't know what the data throughput is going to be; we know we can get a holographic image through one, but what about terabytes/petabytes/etc of scientific data? No; if we want off-Midnoir Optical Computing benefits, then we should build Optical Computers off of Midnoir.
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So, as far as research goes...
[ ] Liara's Prothean Artifact [100]: 20d10+10: 94.46%
[ ] Optical Computing [49/800]: 20d10+40d10+50d10+170+30: 96.48%
[ ] Flawless black boxing/FRM [3200]:70d10+10d10+50+155
Liara has 2 shepard dice, with the ANI bonus.
Optical computing has 2 revy dice, 4 lab dice, 5 research team dice, and 3 basic research bonuses.
Flawless blackboxing has the remaining 7 research teams, conrad, and 5 basic research.
edit: Not spending the Omake bonuses quite yet, as we can spend them later, and we can't get flawless blackboxing yet.
[ ] Liara's Prothean Artifact [100]: 20d10+10: 94.46%
[ ] Optical Computing [49/800]: 20d10+40d10+50d10+170+30: 96.48%
[ ] Flawless black boxing/FRM [3200]:70d10+10d10+50+155
Liara has 2 shepard dice, with the ANI bonus.
Optical computing has 2 revy dice, 4 lab dice, 5 research team dice, and 3 basic research bonuses.
Flawless blackboxing has the remaining 7 research teams, conrad, and 5 basic research.
edit: Not spending the Omake bonuses quite yet, as we can spend them later, and we can't get flawless blackboxing yet.
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AI prep is also a politically costly move, and one that compromises security - in order to get licensed, we'll have to allow licensing commitee (read STG and asari intelligence) to inspect our facilities, which isn't something to do without lots of prep or before perfect blackboxing is complete. There's also an issue that AI-handling labs wouldn't be able to benefit from blackboxing without compromising it.
If we can get all three, I am for all three, even if this invites some troubles down the road.
We have to have krogan scientist working for us for some time (and being a public figure) before we roll out eternal youth krogan version. Think about it. With eternal youth widely available the only factors that bring the population of star-faring civilization down are accidents (negligible on the large scale) and manmade ones (war and general conflict, basically). Basically? Eternal youth renders krogan "we are a dying race because of the genophage" thing completely obsolete. They won't be dying out unless they will be trying to die out. We need a krogan figure with us to push this message.