Plus its one thing for kids to die due to accidents and such and it is another to have constant stillbirths. Way different. On the one hand you have the kid doing something stupid, or someone not paying attention to put the blame on, but having stillbirths kind of automatically means that the mother was not good enough. And having them all the times kind of reinforces that into never being good enough.
Just quick calcs based on the amount of food required means that something like 9 out of every ten Krogan would have to die within first week of birth.
1) On details of Paragon Industries techs. Think about who will be listening. Basic technical explanation is good, but not very interesting. Let's mix in some anecdotes and funny stories from research process, it should be well, received.
2) On a scientist - Dirac is good.
3) Why torpedoes? I think we are better off researching black hole gun, then upscaling it.
4) I think we might want to hint about eternal youth thing. Very subtly.
I am still not buying the whole depression thing. It makes no sense. Why do Krogans have such huge birthrate? Because before the advance the industrial civilization (or, m I re likely, their uplift by salarians) only one in a thousand Krogans survived till adulthood, i.e about the same amount as survives their birth due to Genophage.
It makes no sense for Genophage to produce negative psychological effect that wasn't already there through the whole Krogan history, from before they were sapient.
Success rate. Or in other word the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results. Technically speaking all the Krogan females are still fertile, barring statistics/other factors. However it's the ones that have the dice land in their unborn children's favor early that get tagged as fertile.
You have to understand that your looking at two or three children surviving per female per generational cycle thus reducing the numbers down to the rate other species will have. Krogan females average 2-3 eggs a day (~1000 per year)! The current human population growth is ~1.1% per year. Or one kid per one hundred people per year. For the Krogan assuming a 50-50 gender split that's one out of 50 thousand kids surviving. That's 0.002%. The Female to male ratio is most likely in favor of the females as they are less likely to get involved in combat, possibly making it worse. Although the "non-fertile" females may give up on having kids enter into high risk occupations, reducing the birthing population even more.
The level of survival success is statistically irreverent save for the shear number of chances and psychologically people will make judgements on one event, much less 1000. I'm pretty sure that even for scientific work that 1000 tests would be considered enough to consider an event proven. You'd need to try to have kids for 50 years just to raise you odds of having one kid to a naive statistical 100%. The brains of most races just aren't built to handle that. Once a female is "not fertile*" they really just lost one of the main hopes/goals of their existence.
*Probably something like didn't have any kids in the first five years or something.
Then if you add on the nature of Krogan culture and the blood rage. Yeah not good.
The genophage is a giant ultimatum. Act peacefully and you may survive. The problem is that someone forgot to tell the Krogan the details. Why I don't know. May be the Salarians figured that if the Krogan couldn't figure it out they were to dumb to survive anyway. Or may it has to do with politics and the Salarians figured that even the specter of a returned Krogan horde would make things go south so they keep their mouths shut.
Or that's my theory anyway I may have missed something.
Edit: for clarity some one pointed out that I ignored the death rate which is about .9% for humans. Assuming that a sane Krogan civilization (lazy I know) would have a similar rate. The numbers I had are off by a factor of 2 so one birth per 25 years per female naively. Still really bad. One could easily see how a given female would be marked as infertile and how things would got to hell if the Krogans failed at statistics like they seem to.
Invest in security? 1 million per building per quarter (amount will be the same for any "high security" buildings)
[x] Yes
Who do you want to get your PMC license from?
[x] Systems Alliance and Citadel (2.5 million in total fees.)
PMC Name?
[x] ParSec
Nice wordplay make it sound like astronomical unit.
Who will you pursue? (Choose one)
[x] Gaver Dor
Krogan for the win. Asari, I do not trust. Saying she is spy for Benezia, would be paranoia to the extreme but try tell that to this community. There is also chance that she can become spy later. While I would want Quarian in, the fact is that he IS going to snatch all possible data he can for the Migrant fleet.
Will you try to acquire anything? (Choose one)
[x] Ship weapons components (400 million credits, 200 points to next level of MAC tech, Bradley now gets 260,000 per Production)
That buy basically get us 200m MAC.
Do you want to grab one of the sites?
[x] Big site (+1 factory slot)
Keeping things out from middle of city is better than taking things too far.
Having it in city, means all combat is in high raise urban environment. That is hell, normally last words vehicle driver hear is "Enemy contact" (if the bastards don't drop satchel charge from top of the building that is).
If someone wants to orbital bomb you to death, underground base doesn't work. There is also chance that the base become "last stand" for security if planet militia cannot get in area fast enough.
What type of interview? (You can if you wish review any type of interview before publication.)
[x] Video
Where will you do the interview?
[x] At your home
What got you into science and engineering in the first place?
[x] "Watching my dad tinkering. It was fun to just watch him do that as I was little. Then I started to read and tinker also. Soon enough I made some toys, burned the garden shed down, build perpetual motion machine for my science fair project. All the little things that lead to the Arc Reactor."
Where did the idea for the Legionary armor come from?
[x] "From the popular culture. I'm retro game fan and have always wanted to make something similar than all those old cult classics had." "The name? I was watching historical videos while tinkering with exoskeleton, it just stick and soon enough I was using it all the time."
What can you tell us about the arc-reactor (and/or other PI technologies)?
[x] Basic layman's explanation, leaning towards vague, avoid specific technical terms.
What do you think the effects of the arc-reactor will be on society?
[x] "I hope to bring our community into the next stage of civilisation, perhaps even surpassing element zero at it's core." or something along those lines.
And on the military?
[x] "We are currently working on several products that might just change the battlefield completely." or something along those lines.
What should we expect to see next from Paragon Industries?
[x] "Our current research is in 'Mass Effect' technologies, what the yields are is hard to say but communications and computers are priority focus. In biology, we have made another invention which helps humans with genetic problems quite a lot and I personally hope to find good laboratories and scientist someday to expand in xenobiology."
Who's you favorite historical scientist?
[x] Nikola Tesla
What will you do?
[x] Don't pay. Continue on without the information.
What shall we do?
[x] Sell a few large arc-reactors to Eldfell-Ashland Energy
-[x] 5 large, building grade at lightly above current going price.
[x] Sell/Donate to The Post Scarcity Society
-[x] Donate 1, building grade
[x] Give the Turian Hierarchy a discount on their bulk order(s)
-[x] 5%
[x] Build Things
-[x] Shipyard, Mindoir orbital
[x] Produce items for in house use
-[x] New alloy materials requires building completely new Legionary for personal uses.
[x] Write-in: Check if you can get Conrad to start using CASIE implant
[x] Train Biotics
[x] Begin peak human treatment (May be chosen twice needs four uses of spare time to finish a full upgrade)
-[x] agility for major upgrade, strength and toughness as secondary
-[x] add some cosmetic upgrades to counter fat loss in "strategic areas"
...Then if you add on the nature of Krogan culture and the blood rage. Yeah not good.
The genophage is a giant ultimatum. Act peacefully and you may survive. The problem is that someone forgot to tell the Krogan the details. Why I don't know. May be the Salarians figured that if the Krogan couldn't figure it out they were to dumb to survive anyway. Or may it has to do with politics and the Salarians figured that even the specter of a returned Krogan horde would make things go south so they keep their mouths shut.
Or that's my theory anyway I may have missed something.
I have always thought its due to the Salarian mindset being radically different due to being amphibian. They have similar or even an even higher rate for egg laying but the selection rate was high pre-adulthood due to natural causes and later in modern times with the Dalatrasses selecting the most successful via genetic screening. They probably don't even consider their tadpoles sentient till they near molting into adulthood. I think it was stated that they don't even get names till then. And they die fast anyway even after making it to adulthood and thus possibly being allowed to breed.
Considering all that it is not too hard to make the leap that the Genophage was made intentionally to cause still-borns. With the Salarians being female ruled with the Dalatrasses leading clans and controlling breeding, there was probably no better insult in their society than rendering their enemy's females being unable to conceive and surround them with their failures.
1) On details of Paragon Industries techs. Think about who will be listening. Basic technical explanation is good, but not very interesting. Let's mix in some anecdotes and funny stories from research process, it should be well, received.
Because they're quick and effective, especially with Improved Warhead, and cheap to research at only 400 RPs. We don't even know if the black hole gun can be upscaled; if it can, it'll take at least 1200 RPs (400-Pt Black hole gun, 800 ship-scale weapon mods), and likely more (200 RP Vehicle-scale weapon mods, 600 RP Advanced weapon mods, maybe Artificial Biotics, maybe ??? ship-scale Black hole gun). I just want something quick and effective that can take out a pirate raiding party; we'll get serious about our murder-sticks after we finish off security tech and some of the mining tech.
Peak human is a good enough hint by itself for now. Eternal Youth is years away, and we'll need to tease that one for a long time before we invest in it. Keep in mind that, without the cash to implement Peak Human-style nanite tanks for everyone, even with Eternal Youth open-sourced to the universe we're still going to have millions of people dying to old age every day.
I'm going to have to go with tesla. Just to get knowledge that geniuses like Revy are a thing that happens with humanity out there. If I could I would vote for several historic scientists like Hero of Alexandra and Archimedes.
Population growth of approximately 1.1% in a population counting the entire species means that once you factor in deaths from various causes there's an average, net surplus of about 1 child per 100 people. Depending on the specific species' population dynamics the actual birth rate can be far higher, like with short life cycles and high child mortality rates.
Population growth of approximately 1.1% in a population counting the entire species means that once you factor in deaths from various causes there's an average, net surplus of about 1 child per 100 people. Depending on the specific species' population dynamics the actual birth rate can be far higher, like with short life cycles and high child mortality rates.
Well yeah, its more complicated then that. However it's really complicated and since Krogan don't die barring violent death and/or horrific disease any children surviving becomes a net surplus in peace time as their ancestors aren't dying off. I figured it make a close enough for a simple naive statistical consideration. Esp as the number would be optimized for slow growth during peace time. One could argue for a higher rate, but one has to take into account the Krogan near immorality.
If you have a more in depth analysis or method that comes out to around 1-3% growth taking into account Krogan biology I'm all ears. I attempt I try to make runs into the Krogan death rate. Which as far as we know is currently high enough to offset the current birth rate thus the "dying species" thing, but should be completely different in peace time.
Buy? Depends on what @Hoyr rules on costs, and on how good a frigate you want, I guess. One of those space-AK47s are probably downright "cheap", probably in the hundreds of millions of credits range (a rounding error for us), have a 7-LY daily range (half that of an Alliance frigate), and be mainly useful for throwing metal at defenseless targets.
Build? Unfortunately no, not until mid-year 2174, but even with what we'll have by then in techs we'll probably be able to mop the floor with any four space AKs simultaneously.
I am still not buying the whole depression thing. It makes no sense. Why do Krogans have such huge birthrate? Because before the advance the industrial civilization (or, m I re likely, their uplift by salarians) only one in a thousand Krogans survived till adulthood, i.e about the same amount as survives their birth due to Genophage.
It makes no sense for Genophage to produce negative psychological effect that wasn't already there through the whole Krogan history, from before they were sapient.
The problem, is that they're stillbirth. Having your kids being born and then dieing because they were "weak" and ran afoul of something too lethal for them is a completely different ballgame to the Krogan then their young not even getting a chance at all. The pre-uplift mortality rate was Natural Selection at work but the Genophage ? The Krogan consider it to be murder. Galaxy wide endorsed murder that they can't do anything about.
The problem, is that they're stillbirth. Having your kids being born and then dieing because they were "weak" and ran afoul of something too lethal for them is a completely different ballgame to the Krogan then their young not even getting a chance at all. The pre-uplift mortality rate was Natural Selection at work but the Genophage ? The Krogan consider it to be murder. Galaxy wide endorsed murder that they can't do anything about.
In other words, curing the genophage will mean altering Krogan females to only ovulate once a year, rather than having them ovulate 1000 times and have 999 of them be failures.
In other words, curing the genophage will mean altering Krogan females to only ovulate once a year, rather than having them ovulate 1000 times and have 999 of them be failures.
Well yeah, its more complicated then that. However it's really complicated and since Krogan don't die barring violent death and/or horrific disease any children surviving becomes a net surplus in peace time as their ancestors aren't dying off. I figured it make a close enough for a simple naive statistical consideration. Esp as the number would be optimized for slow growth during peace time. One could argue for a higher rate, but one has to take into account the Krogan near immorality.
Yeah, sorry for being so short. It's just that I really don't like it when people misuse scientific terms to create a position the data doesn't support. It's something you come across often enough on the net so...
Still, that should not be an excuse for me to attack someone arguing in good faith.
If you have a more in depth analysis or method that comes out to around 1-3% growth taking into account Krogan biology I'm all ears. I attempt I try to make runs into the Krogan death rate. Which as far as we know is currently high enough to offset the current birth rate thus the "dying species" thing, but should be completely different in peace time.
First, you have to take into account that even for krogan accidents will cause deaths, so you need to account for that in your statistical analysis.
The second is that their culture, while open to interpretation, is probably very nihilistic and/or despairing. This makes it likely that there is a strong, death seeking undercurrent in society that could cause a relatively elevated occurence of suicide.
Third, said culture is stuck in revering the 'good old times' where they were a species of strong and brutal warriors facing terrible odds. This makes it likely that they would favour professions dealing in interpersonal violence (not exactly the safest choice).
Fourth, points 2 and 3 encourages krogan to take great risks in combat, either as a way to relive the good old days or to bring an end to their suffering.
Because of all this, it's very probable that there's a noticeable krogan death rate that could counteract their low birth rate. I'll note though that the specifics of their birth and mortality rates are not as important as their relative rates. And it's also clear that Mordin Solus atleast believed that even the adjusted genophage would allow a small but noticeable growth of krogan populations even after you factored in all possible other effects.
The whole 'dieing species' thing might well be an entirely culturally experienced thing, while careful study of the facts would highlight that the galactic krogan population is, in fact, slowly growing. Just really, glacially slowly.
(As an aside, who's willing to bet that the salarians manipulated krogan society after first contact to make them more easily manipulated? Because going by Bakara it's very likely that the females had a considerable hand in curbing krogan aggression.)
(As an aside, who's willing to bet that the salarians manipulated krogan society after first contact to make them more easily manipulated? Because going by Bakara it's very likely that the females had a considerable hand in curbing krogan aggression.)
Bakara mentions that she is supposed to be the 'shaman' or 'seeress' of Clan Urdnot and thus part of the Clan Urdnot's political processes, however when the Genophage hit, basically every Clan started to hold all their females in a heavily fortified bunker/fortress (from the Krogans point of view and limited ability due to bombed out planet) and limiting access to those who prove their valour/badassness in order to breed, thus removing the females from the political process.
Basically the Krogan males are dying out via trying to prove their worth for their genes to pass down.
Holy crap, we accumulated a lot of options. Kudos for taking these on, Hoyr!
Invest in security? 1 million per building per quarter (amount will be the same for any "high security" buildings)
[x] Yes
No-brainer, really.
Who do you want to get your PMC license from?
[x] Systems Alliance (1.5 million in total fees)
While I was against a PMC, it seems that people want one and I'd rather go for the lesser evil.
PMC Name?
[x] (Write in)
-[x] Paragon Security Systems (ParSecS for short)
...besides, the pun name is so Revy.
Who will you pursue? (Choose one)
[x] Gaver Dor
Why yes, I will indeed have a Krogan scientist.
*snip Brian's departure*
Aww, bye Brian. Good snippet, sad Revy is sad but that's good - humanises her.
*snip news*
Pretty good way of showing how we've been making waves.
Will you try to acquire anything? (Choose one)
[x] Nothing
Seems like a bit of a poison chalice. Yes, big guns are cool, but keeping well away from political crazy is wise.
*snip political briefing*
Pop-up ad on the extranet: "Ask Revy Shepard about this one weird armour! Batarians and slavers hate her!"
"Conrad. Would you care to explain this?" "Uhh... no?"
*snip Elysium expansion* Do you want to grab one of the sites?
[x] Underground base is go! (Security bonus, additional costs 20 million)
Because it's cool to have an underground base that could weather a (short!) orbital assault. [X] Nova Mark
What type of interview? (You can if you wish review any type of interview before publication.)
[x] Video
Where will you do the interview?
[x] At the Paragon Industries complex
We're talking tech. Let's talk tech at the place with all the tech.
What got you into science and engineering in the first place?
[x] "My dad, for the most part. He thought that if you didn't have an idea how something worked, then what's the use of owning it? But I've always had a natural curiosity; when I was tested, and they found out how smart I was... well, once Dad bought me my first omnitool, I never looked back."
Where did the idea for the Legionary armor come from?
[x] "I'm sure you've seen The Video. You know the one I'm talking about. The genesis of the Legionary was in my first suit, and my first suit was all about... looking cool, if I'm being honest. I saw the state of the art, and compared to all the old science-fiction dreams it was so boring. You have - had - hard suits with basic exoskeletons that could barely lift themselves, fuel cells that could almost power a home if you clustered them together and barriers that couldn't withstand much more than an assault rifle. I could do so much better."
What can you tell us about the arc-reactor (and/or other PI technologies)?
[x] Basic technical details.
We are a technology company, after all. It'd be bad faith to other scientists if we didn't give a few details.
What do you think the effects of the arc-reactor will be on society?
[x] "The best effect is right now. With the arc reactor, we have cheap, reliable, portable power. Colonies can be more self-sufficient. Vehicles can run until they wear out. Ships are no longer dependent upon fusion for power, giving superior delta-V. Colonists can fly farther and wider than ever before." And on the military?
[x] "The Legionary's barrier performance has already made waves. The immediate consequences of the same technology attached to ships is a huge increase in survivability for soldiers." What should we expect to see next from Paragon Industries?
[x] Write-in
-[x] Show off something? (Write in)
--[x] "This *holds up Petri dish containing a cybernetic circuit board* is the next generation of biotic amp. I call it the Magi. I discovered I was a biotic just last year, and the current L2 amps might as well have been designed by space wizards - blind, deaf space wizards. L3s were too full of trade-offs, so I designed my own. Trials are underway, but so far they provide the control of a L3 with the power of an L2." Who's your favorite historical scientist?
[x] "Tough one. If I had to pick? Lise Meitner. She did a lot of the work in the physics of nuclear fission, but they gave the Nobel prize to her husband."
What will you do?
[x] Stop investigating
Paying such a high price to the Shadow Broker would be unwise and mark us as desperate. Much Ado about Arc-reactors
What shall we do?
These numbers are best guesses. Too small? Too big? Modify them as you wish.
[x] Sell a few large arc-reactors to Eldfell-Ashland Energy
-[x] Two Gen 1 40TW, at 800,000,000 each, built 2174/Q1
We're a bit short on prod. cap. right now (24 points left in '73/Q3, 1,530 in Q4). I think we can soak the production cost easily enough in 2174 Q1, and competition should be expensive. We should be building these anyway. [x] Sell/Donate to The Post Scarcity Society
-[x] Donate (80 1st Gen 5GW right now, 1000 5GW Q4)
Again, this is what we can soak. [x] Give the Turian Hierarchy a discount on their bulk order(s)
-[x] 10%
Actions for 2173-Q3: Company Actions:
[x] Produce items for in house use
-[x] Your conversation with Captain Hwan got you thinking. The facilities on Mindoir are pretty vulnerable to orbital attack - hell, everything is. It's time you upgraded. (Build building-scale kinetic barriers for your Mindoir facilities using frigate tech and upgrade the power supply to 40TW to withstand orbital kinetic assault.)
Spare Time (pick two) [x] Train Biotics
[x] Spend time with family
Because we can finally do SCIENCE to biotics, then tell our parents.
[x] Liara's Prothean Artifact [100]:
Liara has scans of an artifact that she'd like you to look at. The actual artifact is a small 30cm x 20cm x 2cm slab seemingly made from a single block of an unknown material. One side is completely flat while the other has a few millimeter deep channels in it as most Prothean technological devices do. Liara believes it may be a Prothean data slate. (Available until 2173-Q4, results unknown)
[x] Mk II Suit [500]: Building your armor in easily replaceable components made from your advanced materials lets you make it so much stronger than the MK 1.5 could ever be. It also lets Cortana suit you up, which looks awesome. Adding repulsors in the hands and feet gives you hitherto unimagined maneuverability. (I. Am. Iron. Man! [Well, ceramic man, but the other thing sounds better!])
[x] Generation II Arc-Reactor [400]: MORE POWER! Well four times as much. And a ten times that one shot burst mode for about a minute. Mind that basically ruins the palladium core and requires the device to be restarted with only a few days use left. Of course you could just put more palladium into it.
[x] Optical Computing [49/800]: If you can commute with light and can make light go faster than you can compute really really fast right? The basic idea is sound, but the precision timing of computational components means that you need to make sure you don't screw the timing up. Also being able to make the speed dynamically adjust would be useful.
[x] Flawless black boxing/FRM [3200]: By riddling your technology with superfluous wiring and casing, adding minute self-destructive devises, and shielding it all from all known forms of non-intrusive tomography, you have been able to keep your rivals (and most governments) guessing as to how it is your devices work. Now, you start getting serious about secrecy. (Makes reverse engineering your technology practically impossible to any of the Citadel species.)
Buy? Depends on what @Hoyr rules on costs, and on how good a frigate you want, I guess. One of those space-AK47s are probably downright "cheap", probably in the hundreds of millions of credits range (a rounding error for us), have a 7-LY daily range (half that of an Alliance frigate), and be mainly useful for throwing metal at defenseless targets.
Build? Unfortunately no, not until mid-year 2174, but even with what we'll have by then in techs we'll probably be able to mop the floor with any four space AKs simultaneously.
What I meant was, Hoyr has mentioned we could buy used before. Like with most used vehicles, methinks there's a wide variety to choose from between "Space AK-47" and "Space Bushmaster" if we use the gun analogy. Methinks price varies, too. Even only with what refit it could tolerate, such a vessel would likely be quite capable once upgraded, and it would be useful as a yacht for us for the time being. It would suck if we were unable to do something because of a lack of security.
We could also have a vessel built to spec for us in an Alliance yard. It wouldn't be composed of our super-materials, except what we have already under patent, but if it had an eezo core we could put in repulsors (once they were patented) and fly her home to Mindoir to have the super-secret stuff fitted.
Yeah, sorry for being so short. It's just that I really don't like it when people misuse scientific terms to create a position the data doesn't support. It's something you come across often enough on the net so...
Still, that should not be an excuse for me to attack someone arguing in good faith.
Nah it's cool I was doing a very lazy approximation to try and guess at the order of magnitude of the issue and didn't exactly put that on the tin. So my bad.
First, you have to take into account that even for krogan accidents will cause deaths, so you need to account for that in your statistical analysis.
The second is that their culture, while open to interpretation, is probably very nihilistic and/or despairing. This makes it likely that there is a strong, death seeking undercurrent in society that could cause a relatively elevated occurence of suicide.
Third, said culture is stuck in revering the 'good old times' where they were a species of strong and brutal warriors facing terrible odds. This makes it likely that they would favour professions dealing in interpersonal violence (not exactly the safest choice).
Fourth, points 2 and 3 encourages krogan to take great risks in combat, either as a way to relive the good old days or to bring an end to their suffering.
Because of all this, it's very probable that there's a noticeable krogan death rate that could counteract their low birth rate. I'll note though that the specifics of their birth and mortality rates are not as important as their relative rates. And it's also clear that Mordin Solus atleast believed that even the adjusted genophage would allow a small but noticeable growth of krogan populations even after you factored in all possible other effects.
The whole 'dieing species' thing might well be an entirely culturally experienced thing, while careful study of the facts would highlight that the galactic krogan population is, in fact, slowly growing. Just really, glacially slowly.
Good points, the main issue is that I'm assuming that the Salarians calibrated the growth rate for a functioning and mostly peaceful* if rather physical civilization. Not a civilization of semi-suicidal nihilists and/or warfare prone violent maniacs. Like I said it's an ultimatum, play nice or die.
Good points, the main issue is that I'm assuming that the Salarians calibrated the growth rate for a functioning and mostly peaceful* if rather physical civilization. Not a civilization of semi-suicidal nihilists and/or warfare prone violent maniacs. Like I said it's an ultimatum, play nice or die.
I kinda prefer that the Krogan actually do have a positive net population growth, if only so the Salarians can tell themselves that it isn't really genocide.
We'll be able to build our own frigate in 2174-Q2. In the meantime, we'll have quite enough to get up to arming our shipyard construction site in case of pirate raiders.
I kinda prefer that the Krogan actually do have a positive net population growth, if only so the Salarians can tell themselves that it isn't really genocide.
"it is not genocide...no Krogans are actually killed. Merely...not born." is probably what your average everyday Salarian would say if you asked him/her about it.
Doesn't Mordin say something like "Genophage is not a sterilsation plague. Would be kinder on the Krogan if it were." if you ask him about it?
I know he doesn't represent the salarian species as a whole, but you do get the impression that if the Salarians back then made a plague that actually killed 999 out of a thousand Krogan who were actually living, eating, breathing and fighting, then it would be on their minds all the time.
So having 999 out of thousand being stillborn....I guess from a certain point of view, or twisting the facts around in a certain way...you could claim it that it is 'not different to abortion' - it is merely a form of population control from their point of view, nothing more, nothing less.
Which, from another of point of view makes the idea of a race that mostly sees this as 'the correct thing to have done' absolutely terrifying.
It's actually one of the reasons why I saved Malon's data - it wasn't just the fact that Malon killed Krogans in order to find a cure, but I saw it as proof that not all Salarians saw the genophage as something that should be constantly hung over the Krogans heads.
If Hoyr gets mad at me for being off topic, disregard this, but...
What do you think should have been done?
Edit - It was pointed out earlier that a better solution then would be to make the Krogan female only have a single egg instead of having all those stillbirths. Do we think that's possible for non-Revy science working around the Krogan regenerative abilities and with the mandate to affect the entire population in such a way that can't be worked around? Because I thought we were operating on the assumption that they didn't do so in the first place because it wasn't. They went with the method they did for a reason. Or was everyone who worked on the genophage project, considered it before the Rebellions even happened, and modified it later when necessary cartoonishly evil?
