Semper Ad Meliora (Code Geass/Britannian Royalty Quest)

[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.
[X][RJS] Steiner Konzern Bid (+500 Income)
 
[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.
[X][RJS] Steiner Konzern Bid (+500 Income)
 
[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.
[X][RJS] Steiner Konzern Bid (+500 Income)
 
[X][RJS] Turn Down Current Bids – Sell Later
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.

The extra income isn't worth it. If we get china it's a drop in the bucket. If we don't were better off refining the tech before selling it.

Edit: Also hoping for either a third action from taking over China or making the Chinese air force the best in the world.
 
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[X][RJS] Turn Down Current Bids – Sell Later
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.

The extra income isn't worth it. If we get china it's a drop in the bucket. If we don't were better off refining the tech before selling it.

Edit: Also hoping for either a third action from taking over China or making the Chinese air force the best in the world.
The problem is we only have so many actions, and if anything, our options are about to expand. Between psionic research, Knightmares, and Jets, something has to get sidelined for the sake of real progress in the other two. We read in the battle against New Heaven that the chinese frames were good for little besides soaking up damage. It's a weakness that needs to be addressed. In the end, I can't see myself voting for this branch of research over the other two, so I'm not interested in holding out on it for some better payoff.
 
[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.
[X][RJS] Steiner Konzern Bid (+500 Income)
 
The problem is we only have so many actions, and if anything, our options are about to expand. Between psionic research, Knightmares, and Jets, something has to get sidelined for the sake of real progress in the other two. We read in the battle against New Heaven that the chinese frames were good for little besides soaking up damage. It's a weakness that needs to be addressed. In the end, I can't see myself voting for this branch of research over the other two, so I'm not interested in holding out on it for some better payoff.

Building the prototype bay is very likely going to be a stewardship action though. Where we have three actions and much less stuff to get done.

Being able to sell the design of a complete fighter rather than just an engine system seems more likely to get us taken more seriously as a significant player.
 
Handing the knightmare research to Milly does what? Does it make that stewardship?

It would be funny if the Chinese air force became sufficiently advanced enough people stop competing in knightmares. That would mess up Britain since they rely on hero units to prop everything up.
 
So... just an idle thought, but Kenshin is going to Japan of all places. Now, this may just be flavour, but we did just make a bunch of jokes about having created magical mascots. He may be going to study Magical Girl series, and wants the child along to make him a magical boy, complete with mascot :V
 
Hey @Slayer Anderson, I noticed some peculiarities in our current funds so I decided to go back and painstakingly check from the start. Here's what I found:

  • Phase 1 starts out with 2000 BRN. (Possible Error: Future income was included together with "banked" funds)
-350 Cost / -100 Upkeep (P1)
-600 Cost (P2)
+1300 (Income)

2000 -950 -100 +1300 = 2250 BRN
  • Phase 1 starts out with 2450 BRN, which should actually be 2250 BRN. (+200 difference)
-700 Cost / -300 Upkeep (P1)
-500 Cost (P2)
+1300 (Income) / -100 (T1 Upkeep)

2250 -1200 -300 -100 +1300 = 1950 BRN
  • Phase 1 starts out with 2100 BRN, which should actually be 1950 BRN. (+150 difference)
-900 Cost / -300 Upkeep (P1)
-350 Cost / -50 Upkeep (P2)
-100 Cost (P3)
+1600 (Income) / -400 (T2 Upkeep)

1950 -1350 -350 -400 +1600 = 1450 BRN
  • Phase 1 starts out with 1650 BRN, which should actually be 1450 BRN. (+200 difference)
-700 Cost / -150 Upkeep (P1)
-850 Cost / -100 Upkeep (P2)
-100 Cost (P3)
+3100 (Income) / +1000 (Bonus) / -750 (T3 Upkeep)

1450 -1650 -250 -750 +4100 = 2900 BRN
  • Phase 1 starts out with 3050 BRN, which should actually be 2900 BRN. (+150 difference)
-1700 Cost / -850 Upkeep (P1)
  • Phase 2 starts out with 1350 BRN, which should actually be 1200 BRN. (+150 difference)
-900 Cost / -100 Upkeep (P2)
-150 Cost / -50 Upkeep (P3)
+3100 (Income) / -1000 (T4 Upkeep)

2900 -2750 -1000 -1000 +3100 = 1250 BRN
  • Phase 1 starts out with 1400 BRN, which should actually be 1250 BRN. (+150 difference)
-950 Cost / -150 Upkeep (P1)
  • Phase 2 starts out with 4450 BRN, which should actually be 4300 BRN. (+150 difference)
-1000 Cost / -50 Upkeep (P2)
-140 Cost (P3)
+4850 (Income)
/ +3000 (2 turn bonus) / +1000 (bonus) / -2000 (T5 Upkeep)

1250 -2090 -200 -2000 +4850 +4000 = 5810 BRN
  • Phase 1 starts out with 5960 BRN, which should actually be 5810 BRN. (+150 difference)
-1800 Cost / -900 Upkeep (P1)
-1050 Cost / -100 Upkeep (P2)
-250 Cost (P3)
+4850 (Income)
/ +3000 (bonus) / -2200 (T6 Upkeep)

5810 -3100 -1000 -2200 +4850 +3000 = 7360 BRN
  • Phase 1 does not mention account balance, but it should currently be 7360 BRN.
-1200 Cost (P1)
  • Phase 2 starts out with 4760 BRN, which should actually be 6160 BRN. (-1400 difference)
-1150 Cost / -400 Upkeep (P2)
-300 Cost (P3)
+4850 (Income) / -3200 (T7 Upkeep)

7360 -2650 -400 -3200 +4850 = 5960 BRN
  • Phase 1 starts out with 4560 BRN, which should actually be 5960 BRN. (-1400 difference)
-1550 Cost / -200 Upkeep (P1) / +20,000 (bonus)
  • Phase 2 starts out with 23010 BRN, which should actually be 24410 BRN. (-1400 difference)
-1950 Cost / -500 Upkeep (P2)
-450 Cost / -100 Upkeep (P3)
+7850 (Income)
/ -3600 (T8 Upkeep)

5960 -3950 -800 -3600 +7850 +20000 = 25460 BRN
  • Phase 1 does not mention account balance, but it should currently be 25460 BRN.
-400 Cost (P1)
  • Phase 2 starts out with 23660 BRN, which should actually be 25060 BRN. (-1400 difference)
-3400 Cost / -1300 Upkeep (P2)
  • Phase 3 starts out with 20860 BRN, which should actually be 21660 BRN. (-800 difference)
-2100 Cost / -750 Upkeep (P3)
+7850 (Income)
/ -4400 (T9 Upkeep)

25460 -5900 -2050 -4400 +7850 = 20,960 BRN (Turn 11 available funds)

Suggested fixes are highlighted in yellow. From Turn 1-7, the accounting miscalculated and gave us an extra +150 or +200 BRN. From Turn 8-10, the accounting miscalculated and caused a deficit of -1400 BRN, except for the latest phase of Turn 10 where the deficit is -800 BRN.
  • Talent Pool is listed as -50 Upkeep even though the action description has zero upkeep. This would affect the following turns:
    • Turn 4 P1 upkeep should be listed as 750, not 800.
    • Turn 5 P1 upkeep should be listed as 1000, not 1050.
    • Turn 5 P2 upkeep should be listed as 1850, not 1900.
  • An accounting error from the beginning of the quest provided an extra +1000 BRN because it counted future turn income as part of available funds, which became a holdover when "banked" income started getting tracked separately. It seems as though Turn 1 available funds started out as 1000 "banked" + 1000 "future" income added together.
    • This can probably be handwaved as an early-game jank, however, because if you subtract -1000 BRN from the affected turns, it quickly comes to a head on Turn 3; resulting in expenditures which exceed the available funds. (950 "banked" funds .VS. -1350 expenditures)
  • Did Turn 8 Martial action "See a man about a plane" cost any upkeep? It was listed as "Variable upkeep".
  • Thunstone + Bathsheba + Jember should probably be added to the Status Page as Hero units eventually.
 
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[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland

[X][GPJ] No, Jaeger cannot take Xiǎobāo to Japan, it is too great a security risk.

[X][RJS] Imperial Spanish Research Institute Bid (+700 Income)

I really don't think it's wise to send a child we arguably kidnapped and is terrified of Lelouch across the ocean to yet another unknown foreign land without consent and have most of his oversight during his stay there be handled by Kenshin of all people. And that doesn't even consider the possibility of Kenshin's genius disguise failing and being detained and being discovered with a Psychic, foreign child.
 
Building the prototype bay is very likely going to be a stewardship action though. Where we have three actions and much less stuff to get done.

Being able to sell the design of a complete fighter rather than just an engine system seems more likely to get us taken more seriously as a significant player.
The prototype Bay is being changed to a stewardship action, but further jet research is still a part of learning actions catagory, one I don't see myself voting for over Psionics or knightmares, which means I'm not inclined to to pick a vote who's specific benefit is tied into further development along that tech tree.

Handing the knightmare research to Milly does what? Does it make that stewardship?

It would be funny if the Chinese air force became sufficiently advanced enough people stop competing in knightmares. That would mess up Britain since they rely on hero units to prop everything up.
Yes, hero units make a big difference, hence why we had Geno lead our bomber Squadrons. We have 3 heroines in knightmares to our single pilot hero, who's 4 SL isn't nearly as usefull as their 9,7,6 SLs the girls have instead. It's clear what avenue of research pays off more in combat.
 
[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.
[X][RJS] Steiner Konzern Bid (+500 Income)
 
I really don't think it's wise to send a child we arguably kidnapped and is terrified of Lelouch across the ocean to yet another unknown foreign land without consent and have most of his oversight during his stay there be handled by Kenshin of all people. And that doesn't even consider the possibility of Kenshin's genius disguise failing and being detained and being discovered with a Psychic, foreign child.
Slayer has confirmed there isn't any danger to Jaeger's trip, safety/security is assured and there won't be any risk of being caught. This was the result of a mega-crit so there's no trap option and this decision is mainly about Xiaobao's development. This trip provides an opportunity to broaden his horizons instead of being neglected for another year.

The extra income isn't worth it. If we get china it's a drop in the bucket. If we don't were better off refining the tech before selling it.

Edit: Also hoping for either a third action from taking over China or making the Chinese air force the best in the world.
We can still refine Madison's tech even if we sell the current design, it will just lose its novelty and future breakthroughs won't be valued as much, because it means sharing our current findings and letting other research departments start working on developing it further. AKA selling now means Steiner gets to start researching faster.
 
Slayer has confirmed there isn't any danger to Jaeger's trip, safety/security is assured and there won't be any risk of being caught. This was the result of a mega-crit so there's no trap option and this decision is mainly about Xiaobao's development. This trip provides an opportunity to broaden his horizons instead of being neglected for another year.

Hm, does that also mean there's no chance of Kenshin actually losing him if Xiaobao gets lost or perhaps even actively tries to get away from him?
 
There will be no rolls as regards the safety/security of the trip. Action passed, you succeeded, I'm not going to spring a trap here.

The consequences of the choice relate to Xiaobao and his development.
@Brightflame This is the exact quote. I'm taking this to mean that Xiaobao will be safe during the trip itself, with no risk of escaping or whatnot. "the safety/security of the trip" is not being rolled, there's no pitfall or consequences from going abroad except for whatever Jaeger's developments entail.
 
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[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.
[X][RJS] Steiner Konzern Bid (+500 Income)
 
Building the prototype bay is very likely going to be a stewardship action though. Where we have three actions and much less stuff to get done.

Being able to sell the design of a complete fighter rather than just an engine system seems more likely to get us taken more seriously as a significant player.
The issue with building and testing our own prototype is that it was mentioned to be "stepping on Steiner Konzern's toes". The implication is that while we'd score some political points and gain more prestige and greater funding, it comes at the cost of alienating our new partner. It doesn't seem appealing to jockey for extra income or academic standing when our priorities are clearly focused elsewhere. We're going to have our hands full and unlikely to capitalize on further research into jet engines in the short-term.

[ ] Build a Better Fighter: You'll be stepping directly on Steiner Konzern's toes here, but you have enough clout that they won't be able to easily get revenge beyond petty bureaucratic tricks. If you do succeed, though, you could even sell the completed design to them for far more money than they were willing to pay for your new engine alone.
 
[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.
[X][RJS] Steiner Konzern Bid (+500 Income)
 
[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.
[X][RJS] Turn Down Current Bids – Sell Later
 
The issue with building and testing our own prototype is that it was mentioned to be "stepping on Steiner Konzern's toes". The implication is that while we'd score some political points and gain more prestige and greater funding, it comes at the cost of alienating our new partner. It doesn't seem appealing to jockey for extra income or academic standing when our priorities are clearly focused elsewhere. We're going to have our hands full and unlikely to capitalize on further research into jet engines in the short-term.
Calling Steiner Konzer a 'partner' is overstepping the reality of the situation, but it's true there could be political blowback if you sell to someone other than them.
An accounting error from the beginning of the quest provided an extra +1000 BRN because it counted future turn income as part of available funds, which became a holdover when "banked" income started getting tracked separately. It seems as though Turn 1 available funds started out as 1000 "banked" + 1000 "future" income added together.
  • This can probably be handwaved as an early-game jank, however, because if you subtract -1000 BRN from the affected turns, it quickly comes to a head on Turn 3; resulting in expenditures which exceed the available funds. (950 "banked" funds .VS. -1350 expenditures)
I want to say that there was an undocumented change to the finances as a result of some debate in-thread, so that may not be an error, just something I didn't explain well in the structure of the income notes. But that was several years ago now, so it could be either way.

I'll look at the other stuff and double-check your math, but there are probably some errors baked in since the list was compiled retroactively after several turns had already elapsed.
 
[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.
[X][RJS] Steiner Konzern Bid (+500 Income)
 
[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.
 
Calling Steiner Konzer a 'partner' is overstepping the reality of the situation, but it's true there could be political blowback if you sell to someone other than them.
that seals it for me
if we get potentially both gino and milly in hot water with their families then further rewards in the future are not worth the hassle now

[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.
[X][RJS] Steiner Konzern Bid (+500 Income)
 
[X][ICI] Chinese Federation Mainland
[X][GPJ] Yes, perhaps seeing the world will shake the boy's faith and leave him more open to new ideas.
[X][RJS] Turn Down Current Bids – Sell Later
 
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