Also, five bucks says Ritz here keeps getting spooked because even in a completely different game universe, they still have the Tohsaka Fuckup Gland. :V

Well he's a member of the Order of Hermes's House Tytalus, which means that objectively speaking his luck is infinitely better than his luck in Sunny Order

Although given that the survival rate of House Tytalus apprentices is like, one in six, maybe he actually didn't have any better luck, he just had it distributed in a better way :V

The answer is 'Stop playing gacha, Ritsuka, it is Bad Civilization.'

Ritsuka: "It's not gambling! It's divination! See? I rolled Medusa Rider, Saber Lily, and another Saber Lily. We should be careful. Someone innocent will be corrupted."

Thig4Life: "Are you sure you're not a Thig?"

Kana: "Or maybe it's just telling you that you aren't ever going to roll the waifu you want and you should just give up."


Is Piero really a person though? People, after all, are generally made with 9 months of unskilled labor, with one unskilled laborer contributing 9 months of time and another unskilled laborer contributing maybe a single man-hour at the most. Piero was distinctly more expensive, and took quite a lot longer to make, and the labor that went into him was distinctly more skilled.

So it can be simultaneously true that people die when they are killed and that Piero does not, because Piero is not a mere person.
 
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Done. I ended up putting it in Apocrypha not because it's noncanon-there are definitely exploitative gacha games about ahistorical waifus in Panopticon-but because it's a very direct reference that serves no other purpose.

Also Fate in Apocrypha ha ha ha it is a pun

But you can safely assume that pretty much all fiction in the real world exists in PQ in some form or another, although there might be some differences due to, well, echoes.
 
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But you can safely assume that pretty much all fiction in the real world exists in PQ in some form or another, although there might be some differences due to, well, echoes.
Dirk Gently's Holstic Detective Agency?

... goddammit is that a fucking Shadow Ministry asshole using a really weird Entropy paradigm?
 
But you can safely assume that pretty much all fiction in the real world exists in PQ in some form or another, although there might be some differences due to, well, echoes.

Well, then, how do you explain Darling in the FranXX--

Henriette: "Dirty old men Etherites. With some help from dirty Ecstatics, probably. But mostly filthy perverted Etherite scientists who think that butt shaped handle controls are a funny idea and why do I have to pilot the mech in this position I am going to wring the designer's neck once this is over."

Donald: "This was all we could scrape up on short notice and there really wasn't any time to rewire the cockpit."

Henriette: "That was a rhethorical question."
 
Dirk Gently's Holstic Detective Agency?

... goddammit is that a fucking Shadow Ministry asshole using a really weird Entropy paradigm?

Mmm, I'd call him an Orphan, probably low-xp but buying like all his spheres as Uncontrolled to get a discount. Making him Shadow Ministry would mean he'd have a support network, and Dirk doesn't get to have nice things like that.

Blackwing is a technocratic Construct - specifically, from 1st Edition's technocracy with the lol!Evil and the super heavy pro-Stasis agenda. Dirk's syncretic paradigm picked up enough from them that he has shared roots with the Virtual Adepts, but he's gone in a different direction.
 
Uh.

But you can safely assume that pretty much all fiction in the real world exists in PQ in some form or another, although there might be some differences due to, well, echoes.

I think MJ is saying that all fiction in the real world exists as fiction in PQ in some form, because this came up in the context of F/GO existing.

For example, D&D still exists - it's just that the satanic panic of the 80s was caused due to echoes of Pathfinder rolling back in time and people mistaking the horrible mechanics for evidence that the devil exists.
 
How does one explain PQ!Verse RWBY, then? :V

That's an easy answer.

cant sleep

this is all @MJ12 Commando's fault

CBWM
The animated web series "CBWM" (shortened form of Cyan, Black, White, Magenta) is an exercise in the insidious nature of the Nephandi and the danger of Technocratic activism; the product of a Media Control/Neutralization Specialist Corps Amalgam's attempts to incentivize the formation of the so-called "Hunter Syndrome" in the Masses from an earlier age to lessen the stress of fighting EDEs and other Reality Deviant creatures on frontline Amalgams. CBWM details the adventures of a group of all-female "Rangers" in a fictional world thematized by Chinese folk tales, primarily marketed towards American, Asian and European audiences. The world of Vestige, which the story takes place in, is one where humanity is constrained to a few, walled-off cities constantly under assault by strange creatures from beyond the walls and private-sponsored Rangers must battle both the creatures and the fumblings of the well-meaning, but ultimately incompetent government.

However, from the early release, it was clear to any Enlightened viewer that something was fundamentally off about the series; narrative flaws riddled it, plainly obvious for all to see, yet it was still hugely popular. The character designs were unmemorable and the actual content bordered on oftentimes outright offensive, when not simply boring or so deeply flawed that any attempt to save it was irrevocably flawed.

CBWM is a Nephandic grimoire and primer; a work of art, from some perspective. Although the Nephandus who originally influenced and led the development is dead, his work lives on as the horrid creation that it is. CBWM is parted into four arcs, which must all be watched by someone with understanding of narrative concepts (Academics 3 with a specialty in Narratives), knowledge of computer animation (Computer 2 with a specialty in Animation) and finally knowledge of basic budget allocation (Finance 1). Should such a character watch the full work, they may raise their Entropy from 2 to 3 and their Data from 0 to 1. Both spheres however, acquire a qliphothic paradigm and can only be used by a Nephandus.

In addition, should a Sleeper viewer watch every arc as well as the redacted author commentary (Resources 3 or Contacts 3 to gain access to), as well as possess every required Ability at a minimum rating of one dot higher than required, they may treat this like a primer that lets them raise their Arete to 1; this Awakening is tainted, however and is effectively the same as entering a Caul.
 
Uh.

I think MJ is saying that all fiction in the real world exists as fiction in PQ in some form, because this came up in the context of F/GO existing.

For example, D&D still exists - it's just that the satanic panic of the 80s was caused due to echoes of Pathfinder rolling back in time and people mistaking the horrible mechanics for evidence that the devil exists.

And of course, quite a lot of fiction which is made up out of whole cloth in the real world is based upon a true story in PQ.
 
Clearly, that makes Symphogear an Iteration X funded attempt to break into the magical girl genre and shift the popular conception of magical girls towards one more in their favour, and the Gears are all power armour derivatives.
 
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I'm sensing some hostility here....
It's a reference.
Dirk Gently's Holstic Detective Agency?

... goddammit is that a fucking Shadow Ministry asshole using a really weird Entropy paradigm?
Mmm, I'd call him an Orphan, probably low-xp but buying like all his spheres as Uncontrolled to get a discount. Making him Shadow Ministry would mean he'd have a support network, and Dirk doesn't get to have nice things like that.

Blackwing is a technocratic Construct - specifically, from 1st Edition's technocracy with the lol!Evil and the super heavy pro-Stasis agenda. Dirk's syncretic paradigm picked up enough from them that he has shared roots with the Virtual Adepts, but he's gone in a different direction.
Natural Examplar-type person, reincarnation of Sherlock Holmes?
 
Clearly, that makes Symphogear an Iteration X funded attempt to break into the magical girl genre and shift the popular conception of magical girls towards one more in their favour, and the Gears are all MA-40 derivatives.

Also Nanoha. Literally a PA make and model.
 
Clearly, that makes Symphogear an Iteration X funded attempt to break into the magical girl genre and shift the popular conception of magical girls towards one more in their favour, and the Gears are all power armour derivatives.

The scene where Hibiki instantly regrows an arm that was chewed off by some Chorister crocodile and then immediately uses it to rip out and eat that monsters heart for sustenance seems more Progenitor-ey to me.:p
 
Clearly, that makes Symphogear an Iteration X funded attempt to break into the magical girl genre and shift the popular conception of magical girls towards one more in their favour, and the Gears are all power armour derivatives.
So is Vivid Red syndicatist or VA influenced? I mean the whole both being a charming kids story, and sexualizing 12 year-olds seems the kind of thing an IX bureaucrat man machine could miss, or a syndic could rationalize as taking money from bad people, or a VA could actually support.
 
[X] "This man calls himself Control and speaks with his authority. By definition, nothing should be able to usurp that. How can he be something other than the Union's leadership?"

This is my, how to say it, provisional vote. I have heard fell rumours that a certain @ManusDomine may be coming to produce some unknowable marvel on the firelit cave walls of reality, though.
 

[ ] "Why do you say that walking away will save humanity? How does that make sense?"


I really disliked this option for reasons i at first had a hard time articulating. Partly because it's a good rebuttal, the long chain of logic needed to argue this one is, well, long and thus a difficult sell.

But ultimately i think that this focuses too much on the action - what we want Yinzeng to do. The argument that for me works best is one which gets to the heart, the most foundational level. This feels like it doesn't dig deep enough. It is about consequences -the world (not) being saved rather than ideals or truth.


[ ] "Why is it that this man you called an EDE has the resources and materiel of the Technocratic Union behind him? Authentic designs and materiel, not replicas."


This on the other hand, is the most direct route to the truth - Void Adapatation has made the mad exhumans who call themselves control into EDE's
 
[X] "This man calls himself Control and speaks with his authority. By definition, nothing should be able to usurp that. How can he be something other than the Union's leadership?
 
So is Vivid Red syndicatist or VA influenced? I mean the whole both being a charming kids story, and sexualizing 12 year-olds seems the kind of thing an IX bureaucrat man machine could miss, or a syndic could rationalize as taking money from bad people, or a VA could actually support.

I blame Verbena infiltrators in the Syndicate.
 
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