I have no idea who you guys are talking about. Is there somewhere I can read about this Keris?
Panopticon: A Game of Posthumans, Perniciousness, Paranoia, Politics, and Plasmaguns
Deadly Snark
Tryhard As Fuck
Aleph has been posting the game logs in the Exalted Thread.
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
- Pronouns
- They/Them/It
The Waitress's Story:
[X] What was Jamelia Belltower's birth name?
-> [X] Illiyeen al-Hallaq
[X] And what's her story?
-> [X] Write-in
--> [X] She must have been ill during the move to LA.
The story's cool, and it includes this name.
[] Jamelia's daughter is Alice Aristide.
[] Serafina is a suicide risk.
[] Donald Sykes has done Reality Deviance in London in the form of EDE-binding.
Augh, fuck it, this is the punishment we deserve for treating Choi like a mushroom and murdering him with our enemy's hands. I hope Serafina and Donald can help each other get through the coming shitstorm. Alice probably has the Spheres to at least detect Jazmin's Evil Space Ghost masters, if not see Evil Clone Jamelia for herself.
I am glad that I'm not alone in wanting to never do that again.
[X] What was Jamelia Belltower's birth name?
-> [X] Illiyeen al-Hallaq
[X] And what's her story?
-> [X] Write-in
--> [X] She must have been ill during the move to LA.
The story's cool, and it includes this name.
[] Serafina is a suicide risk.
[] Donald Sykes has done Reality Deviance in London in the form of EDE-binding.
Augh, fuck it, this is the punishment we deserve for treating Choi like a mushroom and murdering him with our enemy's hands. I hope Serafina and Donald can help each other get through the coming shitstorm. Alice probably has the Spheres to at least detect Jazmin's Evil Space Ghost masters, if not see Evil Clone Jamelia for herself.
I am glad that I'm not alone in wanting to never do that again.
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- Location
- in the trash
We traded information regarding Jamelia and her amalgam members with information on many potential strategic assets. Win some, lose some.
13th Bee
Worker
- Location
- Tennessee, USA.
I hate bandwagons and I hate half the people in this thread (sometimes including myself). Too often we don't actually think about what were doing and how it can go wrong. Also we try to have our cake and eat it too way too much. *grumble grumble grumble*
Anyway, another thing that makes the Alice choice less dangerous is that it will take time for them to track her down. Also, doesn't TN already know about her as what'shisname, Jamalia's mentor, already knew about her and he's part of TN?
Anyway, another thing that makes the Alice choice less dangerous is that it will take time for them to track her down. Also, doesn't TN already know about her as what'shisname, Jamalia's mentor, already knew about her and he's part of TN?
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- Location
- in the trash
You should remember that interesting stories require conflict, not just a string of easy victories. Screw ups and close calls and unintended consequences all help to make a quest more exciting.
I mean, I remember I enjoyed reading about Henriette clobbering up giant robots in Moscow, but it would have been better for our side if that attack had never happened at all, right? But that wouldn't have been half as fun, I think.
So sure, An Jin-Choi becoming a vengeful ghost isn't beneficial for Jamelia or her amalgam, but it sets up potential plot threads and conflicts. We took a risky decision, there were unintended consequences, and those consequences have the potential to unfold into something interesting.
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Look at @Aleph's sig.
Also, I am currently working on a rare thing. A post which shows you what would have happened had you made another choice.
That choice being to sacrifice yourself to prevent Ragnarok and the Dimensional Anomaly.
That would have been a game-ending choice, but not in the way most people thought it'd be-it'd have been a proper ending with there being no Threat Null to fight. After all, with no Dimensional Anomaly Control never disappears.
dash931
Conil
- Location
- The end of all things
What are a limits on bringing a ghost back to life, especially after 15+ years? Can it even be done purely under the Technocratic paradigm? We've seen them resurrect people, but that seems to normally involve mind state backups and such.
Well, speaking from a Jamelian/Jazminian point of view, it's much cheaper and more effective to just clone a mindless Bob from the right genetics, and then modify its neural architecture so any RNE possessing the body gets slammed with Mind effects making it grateful, feel like it's alive again, and thus loyal to you. Even if it's mechanically possible, without quite a lot of DSci experience you're not going to have the right focuses to manage a true resurrection without braintapes or a mostly intact brain, etc. And true resurrection is haaaaaaaaaard. But just making a cheap disposable vessel for the RNE to inhabit which keeps it happy until it ceases to be useful and thus you can have its detestable RD-ness disposed of (via shooting repeatedly with phasers) - well, that's much easier.
(the moral of this story is that trying to get revenge on Jamelia by dealing with Ms Clock is going from the frying pan into the very similar frying pan sitting next to it on the hob. Or, alternatively, dealing with the devil you know rather than the devil you also know.)
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Does void adaption apply to ghosts? Or is An-Jin just pissed off so much, that he hates Jamelia so much he stayed sapient?
From his appearance and the fact that he's looking much more like a really angry ghost marred with the cause of his death, I'm guessing that he's a classic Wraith, who happens to just be someone who died in space and be evil (from Jamelia's PoV). That is to say, while he is an [evil] [space] [ghost], he's not an [evil space ghost].
Of course, the Sixth Great Maelstrom really screwed up the underworld. Since we know at least some of Orpheus happened (before the Technocracy happened to Orpheus in much the same way that full stops happen to sentences), ghostly civilisation will be smashed to pieces, with only tiny enclaves existing (if any). Given the time of his death is just before things got really bad, he has time to wake up in the Underworld, dead, just before everything goes to hell - and has enough foreknowledge of things he picked up from Jamelia to act to keep himself alive. Um. Dead. Undead. Whatever.
And with the way Underworld civilisation collapses... well, there's a chance that in the fragments of the torn-apart Underworld, he might be able to get personal power. After all, he does know sociology and has a pretty powerful Passion fuelling him. And if all the old lords are gone... well, he might even be able to steal the trappings of one of them, like the Smiling Lord.
So, basically, what I'm saying is that it is not entirely impossible that Jamelia has a Deathlord pissed off at her [1].
(Hopefully he hasn't done anything foolish like go down to the Malfeans and beseech them for power to carry out his vengeance.)
[1] His secret weakness is "effects which can hurt spirits". Like all Deathlords, he is driven to keep this secret. No one knows why.
Kerrus
Fractal Insanity
Just a comment to the people complaining about band wagoning and the like... remember that posts that are just mindless +1s are generally ignored, but also that you don't have to vote for all possible options. I don't. I only vote for the options I actually care about, or think I have something to contribute to. Now sure a lot of times the wagon is all 'whatever write-in ES did', but aside from that if you're told to pick three options out of five, that's on a quest level. If you vote for one of those five, and someone votes for another of those five, the end total is going to be what it's going to be, and in all honesty it might be better because people would only be voting for the options they care about, and the totals would be... more honest, I suppose.
Those templates need to be stacked neatly.
It's almost like dakka designed to kill spirits, kills spirits.
Blanc wouldn't have put the work in if he hadn't had very good raw material to start with. She has good instincts, excellent people skills and thinks on her feet well. He took a natural talent, and turned it into a masterpiece.
Then his masterpiece failed him, and neither of his attempts to salvage the bits lived up to his satisfaction. And then his attempt to start from scratch ran away, using that same skillset he'd valued so much to escape from one of the most secure Earthside facilities in the entire Union and became a Hollow One (so embarrassing). And managed to escape recapture until he lost contact with Earth (even more embarrassing).
Well, we have two other possibilities;
1) These are the characters from the in-universe film adaptation.
2) Cemal runs this place under franchise from Gnarly, who's expanding his brand and wanted a nice little cafe in Hollywood where he could make lulz occur - and so as part of his metafranchise shenanigans, people from other series can access the Cafe as well as the Bar. And Gnarly has a soft spot for Jamelia, because she causes chaos and disruption wherever she goes and also uses Entropy a lot. (This soft spot usually involves making more chaos happen.)
- Location
- National Capital Region, USA
I love that we have to make these kind of distinctions around here, and that that statement makes sense and is a valid breakdown.
Xon! You've given away the secret! Now Choi is doomed! Doooooooooomed!
And still dead and stuff, so eh, whatever.
Are you going to include ghost coding for SV's next update?
Quantumboost
Now with 50% more dots in Dimensional Science
- Location
- Ensemble Space
We already have enough angry wraiths now, I don't think we need even more ghosts in the machine taking up server space.And still dead and stuff, so eh, whatever.
Are you going to include ghost coding for SV's next update?
Bursting Eagerness Soul
Threadwalking Rating Machine
- Location
- Wisconsin
An-Jin's Revenge: Choose Three Facts Ms. Clock Now Knows
[X] Jamelia's daughter is Alice Aristide.
[X] Serafina is a suicide risk.
[X] Donald Sykes has done Reality Deviance in London in the form of EDE-binding.
Do You Want To Build A Master Plan?
[X] Spend as much time as reasonably possible setting up your shiny new Chronal Torpedoes and upgrading your ship before you attack.
The Waitress's Story:
[X] What was Jamelia Belltower's birth name?
-> [X] Illiyeen al-Hallaq
[X] And what's her story?
-> [X] Write-in
--> [X] She must have been ill during the move to LA.
[X] Jamelia's daughter is Alice Aristide.
[X] Serafina is a suicide risk.
[X] Donald Sykes has done Reality Deviance in London in the form of EDE-binding.
Do You Want To Build A Master Plan?
[X] Spend as much time as reasonably possible setting up your shiny new Chronal Torpedoes and upgrading your ship before you attack.
The Waitress's Story:
[X] What was Jamelia Belltower's birth name?
-> [X] Illiyeen al-Hallaq
[X] And what's her story?
-> [X] Write-in
--> [X] She must have been ill during the move to LA.
First and Forsaken Lion: "Man the present sucks. I remember back in the day when it was rare to have spirit-killing effects and you had to specifically buy them. Now what has Creation come to? Every other "Void Engineer" has a gun that bzorts spirits to death. Why is this happening?"
An-Jin Choi: "Power creep. The answer is power creep."
FaFL: "And now an army of ghosts with swords isn't something people are scared about anymore! I tried to invade Creation with one again but they just exploded and nobody noticed!"
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
- Pronouns
- They/Them/It
Hm... actually, my Aleph copy-paste vote is playing softball. We deserve worse from Choi. Choi deserves for his revenant to inflict worse on us. We fucked him over for practical reasons, so we deserve practical consequences for our actions. Even with this attitude, I balk at the game-ending potential of what we did with IBM getting out, but losing our base and minions, and taking the prestige hit from losing it to whatever pack of assholes Jazmin uses as a patsy... that's a sacrifice even from the perspective of a sociopath like Jamelia. Still, it's not like we'll have the other four choices recorded - that would be retarded. Even an official inquiry into our shenanigans would reveal it, much less Threat Null deciding to go full Virtual Adept and steal it.
[X] Jamelia's daughter is Alice Aristide.
[X] Serafina is a suicide risk.
[X] The security codes to the LA Construct.
I picked the "Donald did Reality Deviance" vote to cut because, well... no he fucking didn't. What he did was a natural evolution of the Syndicate's paradigm, and it stopped I-50 from continuing her public rampage and further damaging reality. The only definition of Reality Deviance he engaged in is Threat Null's - which, you'll recall, is "opposition to Threat Null." Actual reality deviance is shit like what Threat Null commands their human slaves to do whenever they run into paradigmic difficulties. A legal attack on someone who kept well within the spirit of the law is not up to standard.
This feeling of rejecting the reality espoused by authority and substituting my own... is this what Arete 1 feels like?
[X] Jamelia's daughter is Alice Aristide.
[X] Serafina is a suicide risk.
[X] The security codes to the LA Construct.
I picked the "Donald did Reality Deviance" vote to cut because, well... no he fucking didn't. What he did was a natural evolution of the Syndicate's paradigm, and it stopped I-50 from continuing her public rampage and further damaging reality. The only definition of Reality Deviance he engaged in is Threat Null's - which, you'll recall, is "opposition to Threat Null." Actual reality deviance is shit like what Threat Null commands their human slaves to do whenever they run into paradigmic difficulties. A legal attack on someone who kept well within the spirit of the law is not up to standard.
This feeling of rejecting the reality espoused by authority and substituting my own... is this what Arete 1 feels like?
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Aleph
Princess of Stabbity
- Location
- The sixth circle of Hell (second on weekends)
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Um.
You realise that giving her the security codes means that the minions lost probably include Serafina or Donald or both, right? Because she murders the entire Construct before anyone has any chance to escape, because the defences don't even slow her down enough to buy time for a few people to get out alive.
The security codes to a construct just let her disarm or remotely activate the internal security systems which are generally stuff that's intended to aggravate Reality Deviants (who, in a Construct, are always casting vulgar spells) than kill everyone inside. The Construct still has its staff of like, 40 exoskeleton and body-armor equipped commandos, a bunch of plainclothes security in nanofiber vests with concealed SMGs, and about a half-dozen HITMarks.
Oh, and Rose. Who has more fight in her than most of that group put together.
Winged One
Not the Simurgh
- Location
- definitely the ground
- Pronouns
- They/Them/It
We have Rose on Earth, at least - she should give us enough of a chance to at least play out the defense.
Jamelia'd.
So, we're more likely to come back to find only Serafina dead, with all the evidence indicating a suicide, right?
Cornuthaum
Be kind to each other.
- Location
- Austria
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Hmm.
(Evil) (Space) (Ghost) - Is evil, died in space, is ghost
(Evil Space) (Ghost) - Is from the Evil Alternate Universe, is Ghost
(Evil) (Space Ghost) - Is evil, is ghost-victim of the Eye
(Evil) (Space) (Ghost) - Is evil, died in space, is ghost
(Evil Space) (Ghost) - Is from the Evil Alternate Universe, is Ghost
(Evil) (Space Ghost) - Is evil, is ghost-victim of the Eye