Actually, we could pair the Generation 1 package with the Body Language optimisation, which should cancel out effect on charisma.

It would definitely void the most egregious paradox flaw. While still netting us a +1 to Manipulation (which is, let's be honest, probably going to be most used social stat of hers given her role model) defense against mind reading, more focuses for Henriette, innate countermagic, even more protection mages trying to attack her vital organs, allow her to resist g-forces and toxins, grants more surviability in general, a bonus success rather then a bonus die (pretty much the best piloting bonus on there), and nets Henriette extra actions that she can either use coincidentally or ramp up in case of all out combat. Something worth thinking about.
 
[X] (1.2x) Generation 6: Project BISHAMON/Sub Project RAIDEN Pilot Optimization Program

You had me at vasculoid implant. Inertial dampers are for people who can't casually sustain -100 g accelerations and 400 g bursts. To put this in perspective, a 100 g peak acceleration is involved in giving someone a concussion on the football field. With a vasculoid implant, it doesn't even cause discomfort. Similarly, falling from terminal velocity is a little under 400 g, IIRC.

Not sure which social implant to get, but I'm leaning towards Body Language Optimization, as it's the most interesting. Biosculpting might be a bit more in character for her, though ("I-i-it's not like I want be gorgeous! It's just that an attractive woman lowers inhibitions and defenses!"). Empath, on the other hand, is pointless, as we plan on picking up hyperpsych for Henriette eventually.
 
It would definitely void the most egregious paradox flaw. While still netting us a +1 to Manipulation (which is, let's be honest, probably going to be most used social stat of hers given her role model) defense against mind reading, more focuses for Henriette, innate countermagic, even more protection mages trying to attack her vital organs, allow her to resist g-forces and toxins, grants more surviability in general, a bonus success rather then a bonus die (pretty much the best piloting bonus on there), and nets Henriette extra actions that she can either use coincidentally or ramp up in case of all out combat. Something worth thinking about.

The neural feedback thing is nasty though. Henriette's nerves are badly fried enough as is.

Also, Henriette would gain a painkiller addiction, like Jamelia (okay, not that big a problem, but we might end up with another unsleeping Technocrat)

Gen 3 is probably not what we want, given the lack of piloting enhancements and paradox cost.

Both Gen 1 and Gen 6 provide protection against G-forces and toxins, though Gen 6 also throws in protection against diseases. Gen 6 has self healing, but provides less soak, and has no countermagic. Gen 1 also has more capabilities related to piloting, what with the automatic success and the Time effect.

Gen 6 is probably more useful if Henriette is caught unaware, with the taser and the bone strength improvement. Smartlink is also more versatile than the piloting enhancement, and less risky, if weaker.

Hmm...
 
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[X] Generation 10: Free Radical (FR) OTH/OMEN

  • "Wallhack" Advanced Penetrating Radar
  • LAG SPIKE Temporal Dispalcement Imaging System
  • Emergency Recall Teleport Beacon R4G3-QUIT
  • Paradox Flaw: Exposure OP, nerf pls.
 
If Henriette wants to do some cross training with the NWO then she probably doesn't want to stand out too much. So cosmetic mods would make that hard.
 
SERE is eminently best choice.

"But it has no piloting enhancements!" you say.

Henriette is already an amazing pilot and -doesn't need them-, say I.

"But it's got high base permadox and and and" you say.

Henriette wanted her Pilot upgrades so she could survive getting shot with low-caliber bullets (nanoarmor, healing system), escape from overwhelming dangers like Brighton (stealth system, kinetic dampeners/enhancers in the legs) and not being fragile and weak as hell outside of a Tenno/Variform (muscle enhancement, countermagic).

Don't lose sight of why we wanted to enhance in the first place.
 
We could pair the Generation 1 package with the Body Language optimisation, which should cancel out effect on charisma, and it only gives us 1 permanent paradox.

I'm against Generation 3, because it's not like Henriette doesn't already have enough permanent paradox.

It partially mitigates it, it doesn't fully do so.

Also, on paradox from enhancements, I'm going to note something important. You can always reduce permanent paradox via taking paradox flaws.

Jamelia's original enhancements gave her a painkiller addiction and fucked with her memories which is how she didn't have dox in the 80s. Jamelia's new enhancements play up to the new mythic thread of the super-spy that has increased in power after the last 20 years.

Rose's enhancements are reduced in paradox by her various inhuman traits like the fangs and the reflective eyes and her own mythic threads.

Kessler sinks like a rock, has glowing red cyber-eyes, and also touches the mythic thread of the Terminator.

In fact, Henriette has no paradox from her genetic enhancements because she has odd-colored hair. :V

If you want Henriette to be significantly more noticeable or vulnerable in some way or another, this is a valid choice if you can accept it.
 
The SERE-II may cost some serious permanent paradox, but it also offers 3 Countermagic free of charge, along with armor, healing, a cloaking system, and it has minimal paradox flaws otherwise.... It's a very nice package. We definitely might want to consider taking SERE-II and coming up with a paradox flaw or two to mitigate the permanent paradox cost. It also has the best DEX enhancement, which shouldn't be ignored.
 
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The neural feedback thing is nasty though. Henriette's nerves are badly fried enough as is.

I'm pretty sure it's talking more about physical pain then the emotional stress and fear thats she's going through here.

Also, Henriette would gain a painkiller addiction, like Jamelia (okay, not that big a problem, but we might end up with another unsleeping Technocrat)

That's more because of her Sleepawake addiction then her painkiller one. Also because she's a workaholic who deeply believes in the cause of the technocracy, but that's a whole other thing. Also I admit I'm biased because I'm rather invested in the idea of Henriette emulated In Jamelia, at least in part.



Both Gen 1 and Gen 6 provide protection against G-forces and toxins, though Gen 6 also throws in protection against diseases.

Well, the majority of mundane diseases that are going to threaten Henriette are probably going to a lot more slow acting enough for henriette to get Technocracy Tier medical assistance anyway, and the one's that aren't are probably going to be the magical/egineered variety if we find them in the field which countermagic will protect against.

SERE is eminently best choice.

"But it has no piloting enhancements!" you say.

Henriette is already an amazing pilot and -doesn't need them-, say I.

Of course she doesn't need them, but she doesn't need to spend any XP on anything really. However, increasing her piloting skill (her primary combat skill) can absolutely be useful in the grand of schemes. In increases the amount of force we're able to project, and makes her more survivablity within her mech which *checks back throughout the thread* given in mecha battles against things on the same tier as her mecha (Mages, spirits, things mages made) she's still noticeably threatened. Hell, she actually came to close losing against her double.

"But it's got high base permadox and and and" you say.

Yes, which means she exchanging one potentially fatal vulnerability a smart enemy can exploit for another that is much, much harder to cover (we can't exactly have other characters guard her from paradox backlashes of all things, or use mundane training/her ability to use skillsofts to mitigate it. Well, okay, she could someday get prime 6, but thats somewhat unrealistic ) and actively reduces her utility in other important ways given she can can't use Sphere Magic as freely as before due to having to worry more about paradox.

Don't lose sight of why we wanted to enhance in the first place.

Considering the winning vote explicitly mentioned getting augments that synergies with her role as a pilot, they don't see failing to vote for SERE-II as losing sight of the goal.

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Henriette wanted her Pilot upgrades so she could survive getting shot with low-caliber bullets (nanoarmor, healing system), escape from overwhelming dangers like Brighton (stealth system, kinetic dampeners/enhancers in the legs) and not being fragile and weak as hell outside of a Tenno/Variform (muscle enhancement, countermagic).


Edit: I will say that this part of the reason this should be a big draw for stuff, is not only the passive effects it should grant, but the fact that it should allow for a variety of fucuses to make use of her absurd Matter 4/Forces 4 rating out in the field on the fly.
 
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[X] Generation 3: SERE-II Pilot Rescue Augmentation
[X] Body Language Optimization

As @Cornuthaum said, there is a reason she wants enhancements. It's because when Threat Null or their agents (or the Rogue Council) come for her, she'll be ready next time. This is the best set for that. It means that she's taking 4 fewer levels of health damage when she gets shot, which means that what would be a "you're half dead" shot is soaked. It means she can heal. It means she can cloak and run away. The Dex boost makes her a better pilot, because piloting usually runs off Dex for a bunch of stuff.

And with the legs, she can literally kick your ass. (and jump higher and survive falls if she lands on her legs).

Yes, it's the higher Paradox option. But that's because it provides considerably more benefits. No, it doesn't make her as frontline as Kessler, for all that it plus her ADEI means she'll be running at the same Paradox as him. But that's because it runs with rather less Paradox flaws than Kessler, who's loaded down with stuff like "I'm fuckhuge" and "My eyes glow whenever I use sensory effects" and "My life turns into a Hong Kong action flick with worrying regularity".

The SERE was literally made for what Henriette wants it for.

...

Now, for the social enhancement, I want the Body Language Optimisation. It has an excellent set of boosts, some very nice perma-on effects, and I think it works well for her. And then there's the Perma-on Mind/Entropy shield. Are any of you surprised why I really, really want that for her? :p

Now, this is going to be a little controversial, because it means more Paradox. However, I feel that the Body Language Optimisation actually works best for Henriette, both at a paradigmatic level and also (quite importantly) at a focus level.

The Body Language Optimisation lets her use her old skills picked up from having to pilot her own body to good effect with much better hardware and software, rather than a crude hack. There are so many uses this can be put to. For example, want her to accurately shoot someone with Forces 2, Corr 2? The way that she can micro-control her aim in combat time means that's perfectly coincidental. Want her to be able to carry out a Matter effect and enhance someone else's gear by aligning the calibration with micrometre precision done by hand? She can.

This way, she's not discarding the fact that there's a period of her life where she had to pilot her own body like a cripple. She doesn't have to any more. But it's part of who she is, and she's not letting those skills go to waste.

I don't like the Empathic Aug. I think it's a paradigmatic trap for her. It's how old style Iteration X solved their empathy problems. "Why bother to learn how people think - just get hardware to handle it". If Henriette takes it, she's buying into the old way of doing it, and it'll smother her Mind-as-hyperpsych development in the crib. It's exactly what she said she didn't want to do when she started learning Mind the NWO way, because by learning Mind the NWO way she has something that isn't dependent on hardware and no one can take away from her, even if they hack her. By contrast, the BLO notes it's used a lot more by NWO and Syndicate agents - it means she's getting Iteration X hardware to support her growth as a person and the shift in her paradigm, rather than replace it.

...

Yes, I am fully aware that there are going to be some trade-offs from this. Namely she's going to be running around at 6 Permadox. That means that, since Permadox 4 is the tipping point for an auto-backlash (because you backlash when you hit Paradox 5, so Permadox 4 means any time you gain 'dox you backlash), any time she gets Paradox she's going to be hit with a potentially unpleasant backlash. Guess she just has even more incentive to learn to do things more subtly.

One of the advantages of being a Technocrat is that the Technocracy is much more friendly to coincidental Matter 4 and Forces 4 than basically anyone else. What do you call a coincidental Forces 4, Correspondence 2 effect in the Technocracy? A drone-launched missile. What do you call a something which combines the properties of a gun and a guitar? A really well designed murder weapon.

The funny thing is, of course, I wouldn't have been willing to trust the Henriette of the start of the game with Permadox 6. But she's grown up, she's learned, and she's a lot happier in herself. If it means she has to use her new increased maturity to be more subtle, I don't think that's a very bad thing.
 
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[X] Generation 3: SERE-II Pilot Rescue Augmentation
[X] Body Language Optimization

As others have stated these two are what she wanted to get out of increased augmentation in the first place.
 
...Hoo boy. While I understand Earthscorpion's vision for Henriette, Permadox 6 is pretty damn dangerous. Paradox Backlash is no joke, take Kessler's cyberpsychosis as an example. If we hadn't the right person there to direct him, it could have gotten ugly.

I'd kinda rather go either SERE-II or RAIDEN and take an extra paradox flaw or two. 'Can't swim' for someone like Henriette with Matter 4 is kind of a joke. If she doesn't have a deployable life raft available for every occasion she's doing it wrong.

Since SERE-II already explicitly states the nanoweave is noticable to those clued in, it's kinda already went the way of the dodo on 'completely undetectable augs', so stuff like reflective eyes isn't really a problem either.
 
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Well, I'm not too sure where to go with the physical enhancements, so let's look at the social ones.

[ ] None
  • No additional cost​
  • Rose still wins beauty pageants​
  • Isn't it sad, Henriette?​
Only real benefit is that it's free. Pass.

[ ] Cosmetic Implants
  • +Appearance
  • Simplest modification
  • Giving in to the Progenitor Way
  • I-I-It's not like I'm doing this because I'm jealous!
On the plus side, stupid sexy plugsuits. On the downside, it'll make a lot our whining about Progenitors kind of hypocritical, and it doesn't really play in to the 'survive outside MINIATURE DEATH ROBOT' idea or carry much more utility outside of 'look pretty'.

Pass.

[ ] Empath Augmentation
  • Electromagnetic scan system paired with an implanted emotional analysis computer to analyze human minds in real-time
    • Provides Mind 2 effect: Read Surface Thoughts
    • Also allows Mind 1 detection of human minds
  • Jailbroken OS for Emotional Analysis System allows user to enact many effects
I'm fairly sure this will be at its most useful when paired with Correspondence, as I don't think hyperpsych can give you a 'I concentrate really hard and know that not only is there someone on the other side of the wall, but what the person on the other side of the wall is thinking'. But maybe I'm just not being clever enough about it.

When they say 'enact many effects' does that mean with more Mind we can start pretending to be an Iteration X psychic operating with 'it's effectors, I don't have to explain shit' as a focus or can it not be used as a method of anything other than detection/reading kind of stuff?

I don't think this will be all that useful unless it allows us to pretend we're a psychic, and I don't think it does. On the other hand, no paradox, new focus that's useful for detecting enemy minds.

[ ] Body Language Optimization
  • Iteration X implant system, but more commonly found in NWO agents and Syndicate executives than Iteration X operatives.
  • Implanted mesh network adjusts body movements seamlessly to improve operative presence
    • +1 Charisma, +1 Manipulation
  • Adaptive body movement processing shields against attempts to discern microexpressions that signify falsehood
    • Provides Permanent Mind 1/Entropy 1 shield against mind-reading effects and Entropy 1 "Ring of Truth"
  • Skilled users can hack the fine muscle control systems to enact various effects
  • +1 Permanent Paradox
The fact we can use it as a focus for offensive Mind tricks is cool, but requires Mind we don't have, and is a rather similar focus to what hyperpsych would do anyway. EDIT: Also other effects, as per Aleph. That makes it more worthwhile.

Charisma and Manipulation are nice if we want to start actually making connections within Iteration X and begin the process of fixing the Union. (Help, help, I'm being subverted by the NWO!)

The shields are the real selling point. We've got/'re going to get a lot of secrets.

Boo on the Paradox.

[X] Body Language Optimization
 
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Hmm. I'm certainly going to support not getting the Empath aug. Henriette is learning Mind in an NWO paradigm - enhancing that with tech is one thing, but tossing it out of the window for social programming is another.

Hmm.

Yeah, I'm certainly at least convinced by ES's justification for the BDO. That's helpful for a tonne of things, and she can use it well.

[X] Body Language Optimization

I'll think further about the Pilot augs, I guess.
 
[X] body language optimization

Is very nice, liked it I mediately as I've seen it.
Really against Empath aug, thus feels like a step backwards.

Regarding pilot packages...

Dislike the Bishamon. It does not fill either role adequately, neither pilot augmentations nor out of vehicle survivability.

I really like the Phantom.
But it does not offer the optimum out of vehicle improvements, and this was what Henriette wanted. And factual musculature flaw us truly painful.

SERE is extremely nice, but this paradox... and lack of piloting enhancements.
I think the combination of SERE with Hardened Cybernetic Heart for high G resistance and Time shenanigans would be my favorite, sadly it probably is not on the table...
 
And incidentally, if people don't want the BLO and its Paradox cost, I would seriously advise that you look towards the option of "nothing". I've already spoken out against the empathy aug, and yes, the Cosmetic augs would give an Appearance boost. And that's all they'd give.

But there's something else that Henriette has, and that's her pride. Her body will already be going through major changes with pilot augs. To go running to boost her appearance, re-sculpting herself to some theoretical ideal of (probably Progenitor-decided) beauty is a surrender in its own right. What if she gets the feeling she doesn't recognise herself in the mirror? Maybe when she's older, she'll look into it more seriously, but she'll do it when she's come to terms with her new body. Even if it's tempting.

(Also, it would cost her XP. And worse, she'd lose the right to make jokes about Serafina and Rose! How would she be able to indulge Critic harmlessly without that?! No, that's far too much of a risk! Especially if Serafina started throwing jokes back at her about that! Far too dangerous!)

...Hoo boy. While I understand Earthscorpion's vision for Henriette, Permadox 6 is pretty damn dangerous. Paradox Backlash is no joke, take Kessler's cyberpsychosis as an example. If we hadn't the right person there to direct him, it could have gotten ugly.

In my defence, I rolled really well for that 'dox Backlash. That was 5 Paradox all hitting at once. Most of the time, you don't get a five paradox backlash off 7 Paradox. :(

I'd kinda rather go either SERE-II or RAIDEN and take an extra paradox flaw or two. 'Can't swim' for someone like Henriette with Matter 4 is kind of a joke. If she doesn't have a deployable life raft available for every occasion she's doing it wrong.

Trying to game Paradox Flaws, rather than picking them for flavour, never ends well. Ever. It's like trying to game Paradox. And I'd really rather not have the boat with both Henriette and Kessler capsize because we tempted MJ. :p
 
Does Henriette have enough XP to just buy Mind 1 rather than take an aug? In addition to shields, I believe that Mind 1 lets you boost mental attributes as a Procedure. I'd much prefer that to some augs that gives us more icky Permadox.
 
What do you call a coincidental Forces 4, Correspondence 2 effect in the Technocracy? A drone-launched missile. What do you call a something which combines the properties of a gun and a guitar? A really well designed murder weapon.

This is how we're getting away with casting magick all the damn time right? I admit to sometimes being confused as to why sometimes we roll Enlightenment and sometimes not. I mean, if we just shot a dude, we could do that without making it a Forces effect (mechanically. Metaphysically it's still Forces, but we don't roll Enlightenment), but if we used a Forces effect we'd have shot the dude really well, right? Meanwhile, what's the difference between calling in a drone strike with or without the magick in terms of what happens? Is it just harder to not get hit by/screw with the missile?

Does Henriette have enough XP to just buy Mind 1 rather than take an aug? In addition to shields, I believe that Mind 1 lets you boost mental attributes as a Procedure. I'd much prefer that to some augs that gives us more icky Permadox.

She already has Mind 1.
 
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Does Henriette have enough XP to just buy Mind 1 rather than take an aug? In addition to shields, I believe that Mind 1 lets you boost mental attributes as a Procedure. I'd much prefer that to some augs that gives us more icky Permadox.
The point that decided me was that foci are as important as Spheres in this game, and BLO combined with her self-piloting experience gives her a great focus for a huge range of coincidental effect using her own body, like superlative accuracy or delicate machining.
 
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