The former communist and current tea partier who claims that the British Monarchy still basically runs the world? The guy who decided HIV/AIDS must be the west trying to kill off Africa, thus it must be an airborne disease, and so we should lock them all up in camps? The only proponent of note for getting water for the western american states from Alaska by building an aqueduct through Canada?

Are we sure he isn't a marauder? Or maybe a NWO false flag operation? I guess he could be a etherite, maybe? But I thought the Union was pretty good about preventing Traditionalists from getting organizations with hundreds of people that get news articles about them?

At some point, when you postulate that there's a group fighting against a sinister New World Order conspiracy you do sort of have to look at what people who claim there's a sinister New World Order conspiracy... you know, actually say.

Much like how the John Birch Society is clearly not a Technocratic group, but for some reason Traditions fans don't like facing the fact that among their ranks are going to be quite a few far right anti-UN anti-water-fluoridation advocates.
 
At some point, when you postulate that there's a group fighting against a sinister New World Order conspiracy you do sort of have to look at what people who claim there's a sinister New World Order conspiracy... you know, actually say.

Much like how the John Birch Society is clearly not a Technocratic group, but for some reason Traditions fans don't like facing the fact that among their ranks are going to be quite a few far right anti-UN anti-water-fluoridation advocates.
I guess I just don't expect the Traditions to be pro modern infrastructure?
 
I guess I just don't expect the Traditions to be pro modern infrastructure?
Pre-1999, a lot of them weren't; when your organization's inner circle includes among their number genuine Iron Age pagan priests, it can be hard to admit that maybe the advocates of modernity have a point.

Post-1999, even the Verbena have open technomages among their ranks.
 
I guess I just don't expect the Traditions to be pro modern infrastructure?

Most young Traditionalists, especially post-1999, are essentially post-technoparadigmists, rather than the pre-technoparadigmists who used to be their bosses. Their personal conceptualisation of paradigm is such that they view the world as "Technocracy paradigm + My Stuff On Top". This can vary from Tradition to Tradition [1], but... well, you know. Kind of hard to discard years of experience of "this is how the world works".

Indeed, RAW with a certain viewpoint of the setting, you in fact have to keep using the basic Masses-available technoparadigm until you hit Arete 6. Well, I mean, you don't have to, but you're going on the fast road to Marauderdom if you change your paradigm enough that you don't believe that cars work because they're burning hydrocarbons, but instead work because of the trapped spirits bound into the engines and then keep on doing magic based on that assumption and getting paradox because of it. No, even modern animists are going to believe that the car's spirit isn't the same as the car in a purely physical, materialist sense (even if the car as a whole is material + spirit, and ignoring the spirit misses important details).

... which does mean pretty much every Traditionalist who's younger than... like, 70 can steal some of the standard "generic" 20-to-30-years-ahead Technocratic gear and use it just fine. Because paradigmatically, most of them accept that smart rifles make sense, and so they can use smart rifle Talismans and Artifacts.

(Some of this logic is sort of the path that Jamelia is working along as she does her stumbling Arete 5 "I'm edging towards Arete 6" looking at the way the world works. Which has led her to the sneaking suspicion that Reality Deviancy is really 'doing things which risk paradox because they're too divergent from the way the world really works', which means that she's having certain suspicious thoughts about the more techno-hardliner Conventions.)

[1] For example, Etherites are actually pretty rejectionist of the Technocracy paradigm in a lot of details - a lot more than the Hermetics, who have a pronounced tendency to go "yeah, Technocracy magic manipulates the base matter of the world; we use the world of forms and ideas and so overwrite their ideas when we do stuff". Etherites have more of a tendency to go "Aha! I disagree with all these particulars!"

Pre-1999, a lot of them weren't; when your organization's inner circle includes among their number genuine Iron Age pagan priests, it can be hard to admit that maybe the advocates of modernity have a point.

Almacia's most-recent life was in fact one of those genuine blood-sacrificing ancient archmage druid sorts, who died in 1999 when her pocket realm collapsed when it was cut off from earthly quintessence and the Avatar Storm came rushing in.

(Her Avatar spent the last four centuries or so bored out of its non-existent skull, because staying in an unchanging bubble of Iron Age culture, living in harmony with nature and sending out minions to capture victims to sacrifice them for the quintessence to keep the sun coming up in winter is not its idea of fun. It much prefers being the innate human genius of a Technocrat who considers nature in dire need of some improvement and who's flying around all over the Umbra rather than staying in one boring place [1].)

Oh, Dynamic Avatars of science-focussed Technocrats. They're always so... gleeful about being in the post 1999 Technocracy and getting so much NEW STUFF.

[1] And at the moment it's back on Earth, which is great because everything is more interesting when there's people who don't agree with you around! And then it starts pressuring her to pester Elsa or Serafina to take her on a trip around London, even if it is unhygienic. It has decided that it really doesn't want her to lock herself up in some sterile lab, and that a certain level of unhygenic-ness is necessary.
 
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The Martian Genocide of the late 1800s was a genocidal mass killing of the native inhabitants of the now-defunct Ralcon Plateau Shard Realm on Mars, carried out by the Technocratic Union.

Prelude to the Genocide

Following the reformation of the Order of Reason into the Technocratic Union, the new organisation switched to a newly aggressive policy offworld. This including the commencement of the Desertification Policy on Mars, engaging in long-term paradigmatic engineering to lead the Sleepers to believe that Mars was a dead planet, combined with aggressive take-and-hold operations against individual Shard Realms. Their end goal was the destruction of the Hermetic sanctum of Doissetep.

The Ralconi Plateau was a Shard Realm conceptually linked to both Mars-as-place-of-advanced-knowledge and Mars-as-war. As a result, it was a key lynch-pin defending against Technocratic aggression, allied with the mages of Doissetep. The battlefields of Mars were a harbinger of the horrors of the First World War and Second World War, with the first Technocratic jet fighter, the FX-4 Thunder, being designed to fight the Ralconi Foo Fighter, which was superior to the quadplanes in use at the time.

The Ralconi took an aggressive counter-Technocratic policy, and xenophobic overtones in their culture led them to distance themselves from Traditionalist allies. They conquered several Shard Realms which had links or trade ties with the Technocratic invaders, enslaving their populations and draining the blood of their victims to power their machinery. They also began to attack Earth, engaging in raids against isolated areas, and kidnapping victims to use to fuel their conflict.

Through the 1870s and early 1880s, the Technocrats pushed the natives back, isolating the Ralconi from support. Their raids on Earth had drawn the ire of the Invisible College, and the Union as a whole began to use Mars as a testing ground for new weapons system and the development of the arts of war. The moon-based Indomitable Offence Grid was brought online, firing sixty tonne artillery shells across interplanetary distances, and used to level Martian cities.

With this advancement, the Ralconi were pushed back. However, with their heat-ray equipped tripods and mastery of chemical weapons, they could hold off their attackers, and their own interplanetary artillery was adapted to launch tripods against Earth.

Genocide

According to the defecting Sons of Ether, the Ralconi Genocide had been a topic of debate for a decade, but the trigger which prompted its official adoption of policy was the destruction of Springfield, Alaska by an attacking force of six tripods, along with the nearby Technocratic rocket launch facility. The Ralconi had perfected a new launch system, which allowed them to bypass the old detection systems.

This was enough to sway the pro-War faction among the higher-ups of the Invisible College, who had been using the conflict as a weapons development testing ground, towards the pro-Destruction faction. Reports indicate that after this, the Chair of Eyes, Jerome Blake and the Chair of Generals, Reina Lior switched to supporting the pro-Destruction faction.

Planning and organisation

A Progenitor-designed bioweapon was chosen as the means. This was created using captured Ralconi as test subjects, devising a highly lethal pathogen with an extremely long latent period using Entropy, Life, Time. The engineered virus was based on influenza, adapted for the alien biology.

However, before this was used, widespread social engineering had to be used to introduce the concept of disease to the sickness-free Shard Realm. Captured Ralconi were brainwashed by the Ivory Tower and released to spread rumours, while their invading forces on Earth were exposed to the concept of disease. Technocracy Operatives with support from Virtual Adepts managed to access the Ralconi Telepathic Broadcast Network, and spread a memetic acceptance plague of disease.

The final deployment began on Earth, where it was used against a major attack against the United Kingdom. Fleeing Ralconi, pushed back by Technocracy defenders, spread the disease to the Plateau, where sickness was now in-paradigm. With the incubation period, 94% of the surviving Ralconi were already infected before the first began dying.

Death Toll

Estimates of the remaining number of Ralconi at the start of the genocide vary from ten million to fifty million. The population was reduced to fewer than ten thousand, who had been in a hidden facility away from the Ralcon Plataeu. This remaining population would be wiped out in the Ralconi Invasion of 1938, where they threw their lives away in an attempt at revenge.

Desecration of the Dead

One final indignity awaited the Ralconi. Even as they died, Technocratic landing ships filled with Progenitors in Mk 1 Reclamators (a variant of the Centurion armour design) were deploying to take the bodies and take them back for experimentation and rendering down into Tass. Modern laser technology evolved from the Tass-fuelled research into Forces effects, based on their heat-ray technology.

Aftermath

With the destruction of the Ralconi, the first Martian Genocide had been a success. This would lead to the later Martian Genocides. With the ecological balance disrupted, Mars desertified, leaving it inappropriate for human habitation in the dominant Shard Realm (the 'most real' one), much to the disappointment of the Technocracy. However, Doissetep remained intact and safe.
 
I wonder who is responsible for the breach in the defenses of Doissetep in oMJage, what with Cemal and the Janissaries already having diverged to some extent.

Also, so sad about desertification. I'm sure the Union will be able to convince people it'S a nice and wonderful place. Indeed, once everyone has joined Transhumanity, we will surely be able to terraform mars in glorious unity soon after.
 
@Nuts! My understanding is that Jason Brakowski is significantly more competent than that. His official description implies that he has seen action, and as a graduate of the McMulloch Institute he should have a few year of training under his belt. I get that some of that is just trying not to get punched, but "Brakowski shuffles his feet. 'No, it's...look, these are soldiers, uniforms and all. I talk a mean game, but at the end of the day I'm a college kid running on what I learned from playing Modern Warfare 1 a bunch.'" seems a little out of place to me all things considered.

Jason Brakowski is also a New World Order operative, with Mind as his favored Sphere, and recognizes that a little bit of blatant manipulation false modesty should help get Hughes over her initial hostility towards him.

Playing your co-workers like a fiddle with Mind 1 senses: the Belltower method of employee relations. :tongue:



Donald: Nooo! He's been infected with Belltoweritis! Just watch, pretty soon he'll only be mainlining KeepAwake and whatever meds are mission-critical! Use the drugs, Jason! Uuuuse the druuuugs!

EDIT: Also, I could make and post expanded summaries of our interns if anyone's interested. (writing about the side characters is always fun)
 
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Of course, Centurion was one of the armours deployed to Mars, ol' boy. Gave Johnny Martian a jolly good seeing to, what ho! Crushing those damn'd beaked big eyed tentacled freaks under the very heavy boot of Imperialism! For Earth! For God and Saint George!

Henriette: "... wait, so you're saying that the laser in a CD player is... a very tiny Martian heat ray? Bullshit."

Centurion: "Language, young lady! Also, did you know, the armour of Robby Ralconi was all silver and shiny like rainbows, like your seedies! So I'm thinking they're made of Ralconi armour design. Damn'd good design, that. Could stop a heat ray. My wearer's officer realised that and had his men peel off their armour and weld it onto us. It was a filthy alien design, but it was damn effective and shiny! Better shiny than painted in khaki."
 
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Henriette: "... wait, so you're saying that the laser in a CD player is... a very tiny Martian heat ray? Bullshit."
Clearly, since the natural state of any heat ray of any size is LETHAL DISINTEGRATION, with the power of the ones in modern electronics held back only by FILTHY TECHNOCRATIC LIMITERS, this means that any Etherite worth their salt can use this as a focus by REMOVING THE LIMITERS in order to turn a Sony boombox into a LASER PISTOL.
 
Clearly, since the natural state of any heat ray of any size is LETHAL DISINTEGRATION, with the power of the ones in modern electronics held back only by FILTHY TECHNOCRATIC LIMITERS, this means that any Etherite worth their salt can use this as a focus by REMOVING THE LIMITERS in order to turn a Sony boombox into a LASER PISTOL.
The reason MP3 players became so popular isn't because they're more convenient than walkmans but because the Technocracy's agents were tired of Etherites turning walkmans into high-powered laser weapons. :(
 
Clearly, since the natural state of any heat ray of any size is LETHAL DISINTEGRATION, with the power of the ones in modern electronics held back only by FILTHY TECHNOCRATIC LIMITERS, this means that any Etherite worth their salt can use this as a focus by REMOVING THE LIMITERS in order to turn a Sony boombox into a LASER PISTOL.

A laser capable of emitting a ray of pure antimatter?
 
Presumably you can also convert the boombox itself into a sonic transducer - that is, I suppose, some kind of audio-vibratory-physio-molecular transport device?
The only response I can give to this is probably not appropriate for the forum.

... oh, fine.

a vibrator?
 
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