Remove ads

Meguca Micro Empire Quest (PMMM)

What should I do regarding a change in system?

  • Notgreat's proposed simplification of hunting, leave rest intact.

    Votes: 5 55.6%

  • Chapter system vastly simplifying everything.

    Votes: 4 44.4%
  • Total voters
    9
  • Poll closed .
Reader mode
Going to get Homura? Man, I wish I could write worth a damn. That's a cause I'd gladly donate time for several chapters worth of work to.
 
Kinematics said:
So what are people willing to commit to?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Well, you already know that I'm for Serena. I do hope that if she demands something massively expensive we can persuade the other groups (especially Nagoya) to take on part of the cost.
inverted_helix said:
Yeah Serena is the worst pvp legendary. But she's not as bad off as it sounds from the bio.

Homura, Hortence, and Kesi though are designed such that if you don't figure out some way to counter their powers, they entirely could singlehandedly defeat enough meguca to drown in their blood. (Though really Homura's the only one that's going to cause much actually bleeding, lasers tend to auto-cauterize, and poison gas doesn't necessarily cause bleeding.) There's weaknesses to their powers, but if you don't find some way to exploit them, it's hopeless.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Indeed, I imagine there are considerable advantages to training in the free magic zone. After all, not everyone knows a tiro finale type attack, but you can bet all her girls do.

Also, homura can just snipe gems, so she wouldn't cause much bleeding either.
 
Last edited:
inverted_helix said:
Hmm not sure if trying that should require enough time and resources to be an action to find out.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

If you want to say that when we got the soul anchor tech, and played around with it that Taura and a Clairvoyant (lets say Ayano) each created a charm and tried exchanging ti to see if telepathics could double as clairs and a clair as a telepath, I'd be happy to hear the results.

Kinematics said:
So, I'm currently fully committed on meguca. I have a line for trying to contact a legendary, but no costs on it. Need to determine if we're going to go for this, and if so, what sorts of costs are going to be involved.

Options:

1) Kesi. Need to deal with the Incubators to get some of her time. A plan for Tokyo afterwards would go a long way to get their cooperation. Once used, she's gone (no permanent station). We get the benefit of being the one to get the legendary to help, but we don't get the legendary backing us up afterwards.

Costs are minimal. Basically, if Kyuubey agrees, Kesi can be here in short order. Shouldn't take any notable meguca time. May possibly be additional costs, such as cube payments.

2) Serena. Contacting her should be relatively easy, but getting her from California to Japan would take a bit of time. Likely to agree fairly readily. Could potentially stay as a permanent resident, with associated risks.

May have to pay the cost of her transport. May have to provide her with special accommodations. Definitely need to ensure we have guards in place against her hope field. Maybe buy her a mobile home for her and her group of meguca to travel around in.

Overall: minimal meguca costs, minimal cube costs, high dollar costs. Possible permanent resident, but mild risk to go with that.

3) Hortence. Don't see this as really viable. She's unlikely to travel to the other side of the world for our problem.

4) Homura. Tricky. Will require huge luck (ie: lots of omakes) to get her to agree. Requires traveling to see her personally, which will have a substantial cost in both money and meguca time. No cube costs, as we're not really dealing with the Incubators at all. Could potentially become a permanent resident.

This is both the highest risk (ie: least likely to succeed) of the three viable options, and the one with the highest potential upsides (ie: permanent legendary that we could claim as an actual member of the group, unlike Serena). Also has the highest cost: meguca time, money, and players writing omakes (so personal player time rather than just a bunch of numbers).


So what are people willing to commit to?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Spend 3 months trying to set up a Grand Alliance (since we'll need one anyway to stop this from happening again, as pointed out it's only a prerequisite for Kesi but still a needed thing).

At that point we decide if we are going to be able to get Kesi, or if we have to go for one of the long shots (Homura first, followed by Serena).

Kinematics said:
"or whatever you want to call it". "Benevolent dictator" is a common enough term in non-political-speak that I thought it might be understandable in the greater context.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Except she is not a benevolent dictator. She does no dictating, thus she is not a dictator of any kind.

Kinematics said:
Another of your answers, when I questioned the issue of exactly the problem of class 3s being generated in Beijing, explicitly said that she had to keep going back there because the residents kept trying to kill each other. The implication of your answer was that there were no class 3 issues that called her back, contradicting your original writeup.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I got it pretty clear that she keeps having to go back to clear up new class 3 demon outbreaks caused by the Bejing girls fighting.

Aranfan said:
.5 Mami, .5 koko, several grand. I can't imagine it would cost more than that. Also my remaining omakes that helix deems applicable.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

It costs at least $2000 per a girl, and I'm not willing to send a group smaller than 5 girls.
 
Kinematics said:
4) Homura. Tricky. Will require huge luck (ie: lots of omakes) to get her to agree. Requires traveling to see her personally, which will have a substantial cost in both money and meguca time. No cube costs, as we're not really dealing with the Incubators at all. Could potentially become a permanent resident.

This is both the highest risk (ie: least likely to succeed) of the three viable options, and the one with the highest potential upsides (ie: permanent legendary that we could claim as an actual member of the group, unlike Serena). Also has the highest cost: meguca time, money, and players writing omakes (so personal player time rather than just a bunch of numbers).
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
The other problem is that, at the bare minimum, it's going to take three days to find her, even assuming Kyubey can provide the equivalent of a real-time GPS anklet equivalent of her location, due to the fact that it takes 14-18 hours on a plane to get from Japan to South Africa (ugh), which means basically the only time Mami can do this is now, in December, or in March, three months from now, when she has the time off of school. I don't think we have three months to wait to get a Legendary to intervene; the massive losses reported this month indicate to me that the death spiral is starting now, and if we can't get something happening by this month or next month we're probably going to be too late. I don't know what the germination period is on Class 3 meiosis or Class 4 generation but it's probably not more than a couple of months.
 
racnor said:
I was thinking more "There is a chance she will have already flown half way across the world in the blink of an eye for no discernible reason by the time you get there. We really have no idea why she does anything"
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

I'm pretty sure Homura's timestop doesn't last that long. If it did there wouldn't have been the blinking after Sayaka's gem.
 
Skelm said:
It's not like she can't leave mid-conversation. I almost expect it.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...

Edit: Yes, but that's a failure mode, and I'm not saying it's a sure thing, but it is something we are or should be desperate enough to risk considering that Tokyo is shortly going to enter the deathspiral as the local MGs are killed.
 
Aranfan said:
I'm pretty sure Homura's timestop doesn't last that long. If it did there wouldn't have been the blinking after Sayaka's gem.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
The situation is slightly confused by later examples like her leading Kyouko out of Oktavia and her fight with Mami in rebellion, which clearly took longer than those short jumps.
 
I'm pretty sure that a good explanation would be that the longer Homura is in time-stop, the more magic is consumed across a given interval of subjective time.
 
TheEyes said:
Because Homuplomacy provides for such an extensive network of contacts, Homura will learn we are looking for her the moment we sit down across from her and start talking.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
lol probably true.
racnor said:
I was thinking more "There is a chance she will have already flown half way across the world in the blink of an eye for no discernible reason by the time you get there. We really have no idea why she does anything"
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Something like this yes, the Incubators have basically no model for how Homura will respond to things. Her behavior before the timeline shift is so radically different from now as to be worse than useless, and she doesn't talk to them at all. They cannot provide any assurance that she won't suddenly decide to hop on a plane for New York while you're on the plane to South Africa for no reason they can understand.

Though traveling that far in timestop is rather unlikely, mundane travel could still be quite troublesome since you're going to be mundane traveling as well. And no the Incubators will not provide rapid transport.

Aranfan said:
Would my Legendary Magical Girls Omakes and my remaining Meanwhile in Tokyo Omake be applicable for diplomancing Homura?
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
I'll count the Legendary omake as one, the second really felt like you split it off the first in an effort to generate two omake out of one in an effort to game the system.

Meanwhile in Tokyo disinclined to let you use towards it because it's so general.

racnor said:
Which isn't a problem for her anymore, because according to the Dossiers she has her TTS grief immunity.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Godwinson said:
Which is really weird, with her having time-stop still.
Click to expand...
Click to shrink...
Please do keep in mind that she hasn't told the Incubators anything, and she doesn't really talk about herself to anyone either. They are speculating a lot.
 
Reader mode
You must login or register to reply here.
Remove ads
Back
Top