Aranfan
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It stems from her special circumstances regarding Madokami. Like, that is actually Madoka's bow she's using.
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It stems from her special circumstances regarding Madokami. Like, that is actually Madoka's bow she's using.
Well she certainly creates it in homage to Madoka, but that's her own magic she's using to emulate Madoka's bow, not Madokami's power that she's constantly borrowing.
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The question is, are 3 girls enough to count as a pack?
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Well, they're not solo, and a pair is just 2, so by elimination, the only category they can fall under is 'pack'.
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Still, the phrase "pack" seems to imply at least a little more than 3, so they might not get the full safety bonus.
But... they don't look alike (Madoka's is natural rosewood; Homura's is a more polished, darker wood) and the magical "color" is different too (Madoka pink to Homura purple). It's clearly meant to be an homage: Homura changes her magic to use Madoka's own tactics--including using a bow, as she once did--to fight the despair of the world and continue to protect it, as Madoka did and continues to do in her own role as "Goddess of Magical Girls".
To clarify:
The reason I'm suggesting that Mami is an Elite+ is because she can painstakingly expand her limitations, over the course of months/years, for example by folding ribbons into ribbon-steel and turning them into magical flintlock muskets.
The reason that Homura is a Legendary is because she can decide one day that she wants to pay an homage to Madoka, say "Screw you, 'the way things should work,': I can conjure wings and shoot magical arrows now," and just do it.
You're right that there already is a fair degree of granularity, but that doesn't mean I should add even more to track, lol.
Interesting idea. I could see allowing it. Not sure how you'd start such a thing though.
Part of my point is that we already kind of are; we're just doing it in two separate places:
Instead of putting these in two separate places, maybe instead putting them in one list would be better:
- 4 (5) Elite Meguca: Mami (+20% persuasive, will not grief spiral under normal conditions), Kyouko (can act as if two Elites), Taya (Scouting Bonus), Seto (Elite teleporter)
- 48 Veteran Meguca, 4 Green Meguca, 1 Associate
- Grade 2.75: 1
- Music: 1 (Kaoru)
- Grade 2.5: 30
- Healer: 8 (Sayaka, Yuma, Haruka)
- Barrier: 9 (Yui, Aiko, Minako)
- Teleporter: 3 (Shinobu)
- Clairvoyant: 3 (Ayako, Kit Toyoda)
- Stealth/Illusion: 2 (Sora, Mariko)
- Telepath: 1 (Taura)
- Translator: 1 (Hainako)
- Cooking: 1 (Akane)
- Inertia Manipulation: 1 (Akeno)
- Ability to speak to animals: 1 (Nagisa)
- Grade 2: 18 (Keiko, Sakamae Ohta, Shioko Okino, Kaori, Katsuko Uehara, Aisa and Kina Ogawa)
- Grade 1: 4 ()
- Grade 2.75: 1
The basic vet training would probably require getting an online certification as an obedience trainer or something: 1 Nagisa month, $1000. After that it's a matter of advertising. Even with a small client list she'd be able to make $3000 easy; people are willing to spend ridiculous amounts of money on their pets, and Nagisa would make an excellent second chance for pets that fail obedience training.
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Since magic specialization doesn't actually increase the mechanical effects of grade, why not just have the current grade lists, and then a separate specialist list, like
- 4 (5) Elite Meguca: Mami (+20% persuasive, will not grief spiral under normal conditions), Kyouko (can act as if two Elites), Taya (Scouting Bonus), Seto (Elite teleporter)
- 48 Veteran Meguca, 4 Green Meguca, 1 Associate
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- Healer: 8 (Sayaka, Yuma, Haruka)
- Barrier: 9 (Yui, Aiko, Minako)
- Teleporter: 3 (Shinobu)
- Clairvoyant: 3 (Ayako, Kit Toyoda)
- Stealth/Illusion: 2 (Sora, Mariko)
- Telepath: 1 (Taura)
- Translator: 1 (Hainako)
- Cooking: 1 (Akane)
- Inertia Manipulation: 1 (Akeno)
- Ability to speak to animals: 1 (Nagisa)
- Music: 1 (Kaoru)
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Aranfan
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Isn't that basically what we have now?
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Well, this would just be an easier to read format. I don't think anyone is suggesting any mechanical changes.
Actually, something like that was in the back of my mind for the future. It's just that vet training is a bit more extensive than an online course or something. I figured we'd need an actual veterinarian certification (I suppose maybe we could pay Kyubey to get us one, if we have a way to protect the masquerade - which means we'd need a healer devoted to healing pets since we aren't actual vets).
I even had a small omake that might have served to set it up.
I'm not so sure. Homura's liar seemed a lot like a witches barrier, and there were other instances of her using magic directly on some things (attacking Kyubey, remote controlling a truck and a battleship).
Although I think that is more an aspect of her having had so much time to work on those kind of things. Not sure I'd agree with being able to just whip out a new ability on demand. More that if given a need, and some time to work on a solution, Homura could probably apply magic to effect that solution.
Huh... I had a different take from both of you. My take was that due to Madoka's actions, Homura's wish was effectively changed, and so Homura got a bow because her new wish was to protect the world that Madoka loved. So it is her bow and her default weapon, created by her wish as a homage to Madoka.
That was my thing. Getting the reputation is the hard thing. Once she has the reputation though it shouldn't be that risky to the masquerade, as people talk to animals all the time, and some people do seem to be able to understand instinctively what the animal is saying.
The current list method seems fine to me. They are listed in two places because we use them for two different things. Combining them introduces complexity for no gain.
Hmm... I didn't think about obedience training. (By the way, that is not the same thing as basic vet training at all, vets are animal doctors, and it require 3 years of graduate school in addition to pre-med in college.)
Another possibility would be a pet hotel. A place that looks after pets when their owners are on vacation or on a trip. That's a real thing. My parents have even used one before.
Main cost there is the land/space, and being a dog whisperer is not really as essential, though I suppose it would help. I suppose it could be an entry into eventual work as an obedience trainer or pet therapist. Similar to how courier work was an intermediate step that made it possible for Akeno to then get a job as a delivery girl that exploited her powers even more.
I suppose that's not too bad. Except it misses the fact that Taya is also a clairvoyant, Seto is a teleporter, and Kyouko is an illusionist.
That's definitely something we should think about. Also, maybe soul gem covers? Give them some extra protection?
I'm more thinking about aping Cesar Millian's shtick: getting Nagisa set up as a pet psychologist and animal trainer, which itself doesn't require any real certifications at all, just experience talking with animals. Getting a cert as an animal behavior consultant would be a place to start. As time goes on getting certified as a vet tech, and an eventual veterinary degree would be good, but that's years off.
After all, an actual vet makes $84,000 a year ($7,000/month), and that's for the ones who don't own their own even more lucrative private practice (which we're going to have to insist on, if only for the flexibility); we're not getting that right from the beginning.
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Yes this is something I considered. People claim this ability all the time even in our world. So it's not a threat.
There's a certain obscurity through publicity effect. Similar to why in this world the Incubators have subtly encourages magical girl fiction. It helps the masquerade. Of course it's also what makes sifting through the internet nigh impossible.
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I still feel it is essential to make sure that we do not meet in person with the Nagoya group during negotiations.
You didn't respond when I pointed out this difference in our plans, do you disagree?
I still feel it is essential to make sure that we do not meet in person with the Nagoya group during negotiations.
You didn't respond when I pointed out this difference in our plans, do you disagree?
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This was my take, too.
Soul gem covers would rob you of the ability to check or cleanse your gem, and you'd need to mold them to each MG, since all the gems are in different places.
Actually, another worry; enchantment. We know that items held by MG's become better at what they do, but we also know that glass becomes better by becoming invisible. Would Glass decoys somehow become better decoys, or would they become invisible?
Worth checking out at least
Eh.. If we're not going to meet in person, then why are we using Mami on it in the first place? Seems like it would remove the value of her diplomacy bonus (though @inverted_helix would have to say one way or the other).
I thought Mami's bonus was more due to her people skills, and not a magical effect. Additionally this situation seems to call for Mami's attention as the leader she has more credibility.
I would think that those things make her bonus applicable.
I'm not implying any sort of magical effect. But people skills requires actually interacting with people.
Granted.
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"Well, I've got nothing."
Dunno, a lot of people on SB/SV demonstrate that a lack of people skills requires nothing more than being able to communicate in some fashion.
It will halve the value. Since I figure being persuasive does apply somewhat over the phone, but a lot of body language is lost.
It's not a magical effect, it's just trained people skill.
Also have started writing, no outrageous rolls either way. Was wondering what ended up winning between kinematics and Elder Haman. They're both only differing in a couple lines so it's not a big deal on my end.
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