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[DISCONTINUED] In the Beginning, There Was Man (WH40k x SC)

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UltimatePaladin said:
Ideally, as soon as we can.

Pragmatically, we can't just drop in and shoot the man. That won't make threat the Dominion poses go away overnight. In fact, it might make things worse if a general decides to take control and use this as an excuse to attack. Are their ships inferior to ours? Yes, but it doesn't matter because they have more than we do, and the Phalanx can't be everywhere at once.
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Mm, but that's only if they figure out it was us.
Callidus Assassins would be excellent for making sure that doesn't happen.

I would say that before we go in and kill Mengsk, we carefully analyze the Dominion command structure (i.e who's most likely to fill the power vacuum, who's got the most forces under their control, etc.) Once we have done so, we can then proceed onto killing Mengsk, as well as the few important members we identified. If all goes in plan, the Dominion deteroiates into civil war, weakening itself to the point where the IG and Navy can just walk in and take power.

Of course, if we just wanted Mengsk gone but the Dominion military intact (possibly to assimiate into the IG and Navy,) we would need Emps to use his CHARISMA to win them over.

But yeah, one way or another, Mengsk is going to die.
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We do have a bonus for recruitment, IIRC...
Checking, +1 to their disposition.

So I think we don't want a massive civil war happening, here, if we can avoid it - especially as Kerrigan is still around, and would love to have some chaos in the area (she's also gonna have to die).

...Oh yeah, right, hadn't thought about that. I can see where you're coming from now.
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Yeah, even things that should by all accounts be easy can go to hell.
One miss is all it takes and we might have a fight happening.

Thus, we should work from the assumption that things will go wrong, even as we hope they don't (because unlike canon Imperium we don't have arbitrary amount of resources to throw at a problem).

Chief18753 said:
Yeah we need to kill the bastard as fast as possible. The idiot's got laboratories around the Sector designed to create Hybrids for Amon's army. We're gonna to find and destroy each of those facilities as well as the Mobious Foundation. Narud is going to be our number two target, if only because we don't know about him.
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Yep.
Put a Callidus Assassin on that and he should be dead pretty easily.

Bonus, said Callidus Assassin would also be perfect for gathering info on this hybrid shit.
 
UltimatePaladin said:
Pragmatically, we can't just drop in and shoot the man. That won't make threat the Dominion poses go away overnight. In fact, it might make things worse if a general decides to take control and use this as an excuse to attack. Are their ships inferior to ours? Yes, but it doesn't matter because they have more than we do, and the Phalanx can't be everywhere at once.
I would say that before we go in and kill Mengsk, we carefully analyze the Dominion command structure (i.e who's most likely to fill the power vacuum, who's got the most forces under their control, etc.) Once we have done so, we can then proceed onto killing Mengsk, as well as the few important members we identified. If all goes in plan, the Dominion deteroiates into civil war, weakening itself to the point where the IG and Navy can just walk in and take power.
Of course, if we just wanted Mengsk gone but the Dominion military intact (possibly to assimiate into the IG and Navy,) we would need Emps to use his CHARISMA to win them over.
But yeah, one way or another, Mengsk is going to die.
...Oh yeah, right, hadn't thought about that. I can see where you're coming from now.
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Well, we're the tech equals to the Protoss and don't they own Terran ships whenever they fight ?
Doing research on the Dominion would be useful but we don't even need to kill them, it helps us figure out who to Convert to the One True Faith. We need to spread the Imperial Creed across the Sector and reveal the Light to these pagans. Then things should go whole lot smoother once we reveal ourselves.
 
Krain said:
Mm, but that's only if they figure out it was us.
Callidus Assassins would be excellent for making sure that doesn't happen
We do have a bonus for recruitment, IIRC...
Checking, +1 to their disposition.So I think we don't want a massive civil war happening, here, if we can avoid it - especially as Kerrigan is still around, and would love to have some chaos in the area (she's also gonna have to die).
Yeah, even things that should by all accounts be easy can go to hell.
One miss is all it takes and we might have a fight happening.
Thus, we should work from the assumption that things will go wrong, even as we hope they don't (because unlike canon Imperium we don't have arbitrary amount of resources to throw at a problem).
Yep.
Put a Callidus Assassin on that and he should be dead pretty easily.
Bonus, said Callidus Assassin would also be perfect for gathering info on this hybrid shit.
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Doesn't even need to be an Imperial Assassin to kill him, Custodes are also trained in Assassination.
We just need to spread the Imperial Creed. Convert them and reveal our presence when the time is right.
We can't kill Kerrigan, we need her alive in case we can't prevent Amon's resurrection. If she dies and he comes back, we're gonna be up to our necks in Zerg.
Yeah our Assassin could search through his files for info.
 
Chief18753 said:
Doesn't even need to be an Imperial Assassin to kill him, Custodes are also trained in Assassination.
We just need to spread the Imperial Creed. Convert them and reveal our presence when the time is right.
We can't kill Kerrigan, we need her alive in case we can't prevent Amon's resurrection. If she dies and he comes back, we're gonna be up to our necks in Zerg.
Yeah our Assassin could search through his files for info.
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But if we don't kill Kerrigan she's gonna be screwing with us.
Isn't it better for her to die, then Adam+Ynnead tears Amon to pieces?
 
Krain said:
But if we don't kill Kerrigan she's gonna be screwing with us.
Isn't it better for her to die, then Adam+Ynnead tears Amon to pieces?
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That's why we keep our presence on the down low, right now Kerrigan's back on Char, doing something. She's not interested in the greater galaxy right now, just have to keep it that way.
We have no idea what his power levels are and i prefer not to take the chance. Plus its not just him we have to worry about, his got Shapeshifter servants all working on plans to resurrect him. I'm willing to bet Narud isn't his only Shapeshifter. Then there's the Hybrids, monstrosities of psychic power that could swarm the Sector.

If things go to shit, we need a canon method to fall back on.
 
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[X] Record the transmission broadcast that led you to this place in the first place
[X] Dive deeper into Warp imprints to see some more of the history of the crystal beasts
[X] Salvage the remains of Jaghatai Khan's Mk IV Maximus Artificer Power Armor
[X] Samples of the liquid secretion that harden into crystal
 
Krain said:
Because if so, I think they might rather like the Imperium (and also be careful not to do anything to humanity because holy crap Ynnead is scary when she's pissed).
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Their "every life is sacred" view will clash hard with the Imperium and the Emperor's complete disregard for such things (unless the Imperium and the Emperor have gone and gotten consciences).
 
Hey guys on the conversion front shouldn't we put our priests to work? i mean we have a bunch of zealots chomping at the bits to convert people to the true faith. i figure we can make the mass conversion a 3 prong process

1. Priests and ministers go out and spread the faith via word and preaching they have experience in inspiring people and they have the added befit of having actual gods backing them up.
2. we send some Space marines out and about to hunt down slavers, pirates and Luther assorted scum spreading there reputation while also fostering good will with the locals. Yes i know it is several degrees of overkill but that's the point their reputation will become a powerful weapon for us
3. we send with the ministers some psycers ( preferably Grey knights) to nudge the population to worship the imperial couple. Adam will be very useful by setting up wells of his strength for the psycers to draw on increasing their strength and allowing for easier conversion. Hell if Adam pulls his connect to all humanity trick things converting is pretty much done

all in all we could convert most of humanity quite easily
 
Cjdavis103 said:
3. we send with the ministers some psycers ( preferably Grey knights) to nudge the population to worship the imperial couple. Adam will be very useful by setting up wells of his strength for the psycers to draw on increasing their strength and allowing for easier conversion. Hell if Adam pulls his connect to all humanity trick things converting is pretty much done
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Yes, let us free them from the tyranny of the Dominium by mind raping them until they're our slaves. I see nothing wrong with this plan from an ethical pov.:V

There's also the problem of handing Mengsk a massive propaganda tool if/when it gets out that we're using psychic powers to brainwash people.
 
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Cjdavis103 said:
Hey guys on the conversion front shouldn't we put our priests to work? i mean we have a bunch of zealots chomping at the bits to convert people to the true faith. i figure we can make the mass conversion a 3 prong process

1. Priests and ministers go out and spread the faith via word and preaching they have experience in inspiring people and they have the added befit of having actual gods backing them up.
2. we send some Space marines out and about to hunt down slavers, pirates and Luther assorted scum spreading there reputation while also fostering good will with the locals. Yes i know it is several degrees of overkill but that's the point their reputation will become a powerful weapon for us
3. we send with the ministers some psycers ( preferably Grey knights) to nudge the population to worship the imperial couple. Adam will be very useful by setting up wells of his strength for the psycers to draw on increasing their strength and allowing for easier conversion. Hell if Adam pulls his connect to all humanity trick things converting is pretty much done

all in all we could convert most of humanity quite easily
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That's revealing ourselves, we need to stay down and away from the attention of the Shapeshifters.
 
The Curious Fan said:
Yes, let us free them from the tyranny of the Dominium by mind raping them until they're our slaves. I see nothing wrong with this plan from an ethical pov.:V

There's also the problem of handing Mengsk a massive propaganda tool if/when it gets out that we're using psychic powers to brainwash people.
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not Brain wash nudge them like Adam does his followers and keep in mind in the imperiums mind they are spreading the true faith of their god the only one with an issue would ironicly be the god in question who we control

and how is he going to tell? from what little i know Imperium>>>starcraft in psycic powers. and we have the assassins who can take on any intellagence agency here

Chief18753 said:
That's revealing ourselves, we need to stay down and away from the attention of the Shapeshifters.
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Our covor is pretty much blown at this point
 
Chief18753 said:
Says who ? Does the Dominion and Protoss know that a foreign Empire from another dimension just entered into this universe ? All they know is that they felt a disturbance, they don't know who or what caused it
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Every psycic mind in the galaxy is pointing right at us unless you advocate a way for us to hide our preascene in the the warp we are kinda obvious. besides we only have a Year before the next campaine starts IIRC ( wings of liberty) so we should move to secure as much power as possible
 
Cjdavis103 said:
Every psycic mind in the galaxy is pointing right at us unless you advocate a way for us to hide our preascene in the the warp we are kinda obvious. besides we only have a Year before the next campaine starts IIRC ( wings of liberty) so we should move to secure as much power as possible
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Their pointed at where they felt the disturbance, Ynnead put up a Shroud so we can't be sensed.
Also as you've said, every Human psionic felt our presence and got a huge backlash from it. We could write Omakes pointing them to Emperor and Ynnead worship
 
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Cjdavis103 said:
not Brain wash nudge them like Adam does his followers and keep in mind in the imperiums mind they are spreading the true faith of their god the only one with an issue would ironicly be the god in question who we control
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Subtle brainwashing is still brainwashing, there's probably going to be more than a few people pointing out the hypocrisy of trying to "free" people with mind control. And IIRC the long term effects of brainwashing people (especially from someone not used to doing it like the Grey Knights) are not good.
Cjdavis103 said:
and how is he going to tell? from what little i know Imperium>>>starcraft in psycic powers. and we have the assassins who can take on any intellagence agency here
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Because the Dominion makes heavy use of low-level psychic individuals to track uses of psychic powers and find new psychics on pretty much every planet, a wide scale mind control effect will be nigh-impossible for them to ignore.
 
torrmercury said:
"They all say the same thing: something happened in the general direction of the Jubilee Asteroid system. Interestingly enough, the astronomers at Korhal University also picked up something coming from there at the same time that the backlash happened. There is no way this is not related."

"Hm. Send in a team of operati-"

He cuts himself off and looks thoughtful. His gaze turns back on you and he continues.

"No. Send in a team of trainees. Make it look like an exercise mission so that we have plausible deniability. Send in a good team, but not the best. Eggs in one basket and all that."

"Yes sir."

There is a bitter taste in your mouth.

"Anything else to report?"

"No sir."

There is a weight pressing into the back of your mind. A weight filled with colors of Glory, of Wisdom, and of Humanity.

"Good. Get to it then."

"Aye sir."

You hate that man.
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All they know is something strange and powerful happened and it came from Jubilee Asteroid system. Nothing says they can sense us anymore.

Also as you've said, every Human psionic felt our presence and got a huge backlash from it. We could write Omakes pointing them to Emperor and Ynnead worship.

This guy was clearly very much affected, the residual influence is there. Willing to bet that others were affected just as heavily if not more, just need to add fuel to the fire with some Omakes
 
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