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Hold on, what ever happened to the MK2 armor?
Shepard Quest Mk VII, Age of Revy (ME/MCU)
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If your talking about the vote, we finished it a couple turns or so ago.
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I meant for production.
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Oh, I don't know about that. I'm Assuming the Legionnaires Successor hasn't been added yet.
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[X] [PIA] Plan ParSec Leads The Way
[X] [PIRA] Plan Batteries and Turians
[X] [ST] Plan Family, Drells, and Exploration
[X] [PSD] Plan Safe Expansion
[X] [PIRA] Plan Batteries and Turians
[X] [ST] Plan Family, Drells, and Exploration
[X] [PSD] Plan Safe Expansion
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Did you guys WANT to sell a massively upgraded form of your previous power armor? Seemed like you guys did not?
I think Red Bovine is asking in regards to upgrading ParSec, or at least having the new ParSec Legionaries, to Mk2 standards.
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IIRC wasn't it mentioned that it wouldn't be as powerful as Revy's due to both lacking an AI like Cortana and the MK3 reactor? In that case assumed that any mass produced version would be below what Revy can use.
Also this.
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I mean, we don't have to produce mark 2 suits ourselves. We have manufacturing rights to HK at the beginning, we could do that again and let them mass produce mark 2s for the military do we don't have to. I have no objection to that.
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Wouldn't it make more sense to call the MK2 without AI and MK3 reactor the base MK2 and the ones with the latter MK2.5 or something like that?
Also didn't the Mk1 have a distinct appearance similar to MCU Mk1 and the MK2 looking more like the MK2 from the MCU? Recall previous QMs outright saying that was the case.
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What do you mean full MK2 needs MK3? We already have a MK1.5 with minor advancements we made to the original production model. Anything we put out now would be a MK2 by default if it's a significant improvement. And why not give them VIs if they need VIs?
Am I missing something here? All we need do it put together a new model with all the upgrades we've made since we out the last model and that's just a new MK.
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pretty sure that we didn't need the MK3 reactor for the MK2. It just needed something like a MK2 reactor. At least that's what I'm remembering from previous QMs. Not to mention that originally there was supposed to be a MK3 armor and even that didn't need a MK3 Reactor.
Based on the MCU Tony needed an improved Arc Reactor to power the Mark 2 suit since while he can power one with the first reactor it was pretty inefficient. The final arc reactor upgrade he made in Iron Man 2 IIRC.
So seems like a MK3 reactor isn't needed for MK2. It just improves the performance for the later models since they have more power to work with at once.
Edit: Also MCU Warmachine didn't need an AI IIRC.
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remember, your suits are not a 1 to 1 match with the MCU, you basically started with the MCU MK 1 in the beginning, made the MCU MK2 to sell as the legionary, and now you have your own MK3 which is like the one seen in the Age of Ultron.
Also I am saying less powerful as compared to your own suit which has a AI and a MK3 arc reactor, theirs would be lesser all around without those two assets.
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That could work. If a MK2 suit can work without the MK3 reactor, it's still a significant upgrade from the MK1.5. If it needs a VI then it gets a VI. We haven't equipped our men with MK3s, only Shepard, and I doubt anyone would be surprised she kept the best of the bleeding edge for herself.
If the SA asks we can ask them to keep the MK3 reactor a secret because we're worried it would crash the power market worse then the original reactor rollout. It was because it didn't need a lot of mined exotic materials right? Like it was way cheaper to make or something?
Also didn't we have a project to cluster multiple reactors together and another project to reduce the size of the reactor? Aren't they really tiny clusters of reactors now, that's still not good enough?
If the SA asks we can ask them to keep the MK3 reactor a secret because we're worried it would crash the power market worse then the original reactor rollout. It was because it didn't need a lot of mined exotic materials right? Like it was way cheaper to make or something?
Also didn't we have a project to cluster multiple reactors together and another project to reduce the size of the reactor? Aren't they really tiny clusters of reactors now, that's still not good enough?
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It's been noted that if Revy revealed the MK3 reactors than people in the SA would demand she make them for them. As is they aren't really crucial and it comes with more trouble than it's worth.
As I keep pointing out the previous QMs made it a point to specifically officially state that the MK1s were literally meant to be the equivalent to the MCU's MK1s just using Mass Effect technology. Hence why we needed an upgrade to Mk2 per word of several previous QMs. They even sited the appearance comparison. I know, I reread the previous threads a few weeks back including posts outside the updates.
Edit: I get that you are the QM now but I'm not sure if you are misremembering things or retconning things. For the latter, no offense, it just feels really unnecessary in my opinion.
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Ok, yeah, this is what I thought too. We're on the same page about MKs then, I was confused that tri2 had a different understanding. I have no problem keeping the MK3 reactor a secret, we can just say Revy fine tunes bleeding edge prototypes that won't work outside her personal care for her personal use.
We don't get into fights too often so people might not notice for a long time that her personal suit is so much better then the mass production models. But really, not difficult to explain. It's her suit afterall.
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I think I am getting the suit marks mixed up.
MK1 is the silver
MK2 is the red and gold made after it
so you are saying the legionary is the MK1 silver iron man suit?
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I think so? The original suit I think was like the cave suit, but better because Mass Effect tech already had hard suits. And then the MK 1 was the first proper suit, and now we have a 1.5 with some add ons. I don't think we've mass produced a proper red and gold level full Iron Man suit.
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I think I see the mix up. I think it would be better to start using eras instead of Marks for the suits. Example:
Generation One or Gen 1: The original suit. Includes prototype suit(Gen 1 Mk 1) that Revy made in a cave and the more advanced versions(Mk1 1.5-1.75) made from that.
Gen Two: The iconic Generation suit AKA MK2a. Include the silver suit(Gen 2 MK1) and the gold and red model that uses AI and MK3 reactors(Gen 2 Mk2)
That make sense?
Of course we can just call the Gen 2 suits Centurions like many have talked about now to make things even easier.
Generation 1: Legionary
Generation 2: Centurion
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So you have been imagining the Legionary as the kind of bulky Iron Monger suit that Stark made in the cave this whole time? except more clean looking and properly armored?
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[X] [ST] Proposed Plan Family, Drells, and Exploration
[X]Maybe Legal Defensive Research Plan
[X] [PIRA] Proposed Plan Batteries and Mind Shields
[X] [PIRA] Proposed Plan Thermal Compensators and Turians
I personally I'm not for selling our new suits until we get some lazer protection, Because I believe that it uses a lazer weapon. And I'm against selling stuff we no protection against. If it doesn't include Lazer weapons, then I'm honestly mutual on selling a lesser version of our suit (no Mk3 reactor and AI, with downgrades to whatever the Mk2 reactor, and a VI can do)
[X]Maybe Legal Defensive Research Plan
[X] [PIRA] Proposed Plan Batteries and Mind Shields
[X] [PIRA] Proposed Plan Thermal Compensators and Turians
I personally I'm not for selling our new suits until we get some lazer protection, Because I believe that it uses a lazer weapon. And I'm against selling stuff we no protection against. If it doesn't include Lazer weapons, then I'm honestly mutual on selling a lesser version of our suit (no Mk3 reactor and AI, with downgrades to whatever the Mk2 reactor, and a VI can do)
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Sort of, as I said previous QMs outright said that the legionary/MK1s was pretty much identical to the MCU version of Tony's prototype suit except with a bit more advanced performance to take into account access to Mass Effect level technology. And as much as people like to use the joke 'Made in a cave with a box of scraps!' Tony's prototype suit was still ridiculously advanced than anything else in the world outside Wakanda. As in it let Tony curbstomp a group of well armed terrorists despite being a civilian with no training along with the suit not being anywhere as good as it could have been if Tony had access to a proper facility.
So thinking about yeah, assumed that it looked a lot more like the Iron Monger suit since the Iron Monger was made as an outright rip off using the original schematics for the prototype. So makes sense that a design sticking to the original prototype would look like that if Revy had access to a proper lab and better materials for an advanced version without going Mark 2.
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this whole time I imagine revy with movie iron monger armor in cave, then skip movie silver and straight to movie red and gold version at end of iron man one, since she had much more time and resources to use, as according to wiki the movie MKII is the silver suit, while the red suit is the movie mark 3 which was basically the same except that it had weapons and fixed the freezing problem. hence why I keep getting confused since you guys keep saying you need the mkII but you have that already since the beginning and had essentially the movie MK 3 the whole time.
You have a suit with a arc reactor, can fly with repulsors, weapons, and shields and can support VI's on its hardware. I always felt like you were getting to hung up on the MOVIE's naming of Mark ones, twos, and threes, instead of what your character IC had in quest already.
this is the movie prototype suit bovine, the red and gold is made immediately after finding out the freezing problem after the test flight
edit: is what I am saying making any sense or am I just crazy and wildly misinterpreted what the voter base has been believing for years?
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