I thinks it's a matter of forcing the Technocracy to be "of the world" in a way.

There's two ways that this could go: Roth wins the election via shenanigans and it, well, it violates the legitimacy of the process, but the Technocracy likely already inhabits that space already anyway. Or Roth actually runs an honestish campaign (lol) and he's just... a very talented president with secrets and some connections to a shadowy ruling conspiracy (That all presidents would necessarily already have to some degree due to how the Technocracy operates).

Donald's role here could be both someone willing to say no to Roth, and someone willing to keep Roth "Honest".

Forcing the Technocracy to, on some level, engage with masses processes is a step up from just overriding and managing things from the shadows.
 
And there is reason to believe NWO will go along with this just Fiat acompli?
[x] Negative

Because it isnt.

Roth's been running to become President for a signficant amount of time through a Beta fork.

You literally cant run for President at the last moment and win it. The rules dont allow it.

NWO has reasons to support Roth beyond he isnt Trump, Roth is no doubt expected to be a 'blow money on military forces, friend to the uber rich, support the international order' type of guy. All of which the NWO can use for resources and cover.
 
Because it isnt.

Roth's been running to become President for a signficant amount of time through a Beta fork.

You literally cant run for President at the last moment and win it. The rules dont allow it.

NWO has reasons to support Roth beyond he isnt Trump, Roth is no doubt expected to be a 'blow money on military forces, friend to the uber rich, support the international order' type of guy. All of which the NWO can use for resources and cover.
So would I be correct in characterizing your position as being that the reason Roth has gotten as far as he has is that the NWO has at least implicitly accepted it?
 
I'm still pretty negative, but after reading Akuz, I think it doesn't sound too bad?

Plus it'd be Roth beta fork, which can't exactly use ma- ENLIGHTENED SCIENCE, so.
 
I thinks it's a matter of forcing the Technocracy to be "of the world" in a way.

There's two ways that this could go: Roth wins the election via shenanigans and it, well, it violates the legitimacy of the process, but the Technocracy likely already inhabits that space already anyway. Or Roth actually runs an honestish campaign (lol) and he's just... a very talented president with secrets and some connections to a shadowy ruling conspiracy (That all presidents would necessarily already have to some degree due to how the Technocracy operates).

Donald's role here could be both someone willing to say no to Roth, and someone willing to keep Roth "Honest".

Forcing the Technocracy to, on some level, engage with masses processes is a step up from just overriding and managing things from the shadows.

I mean, what's the definition of 'honest'? Remember that being a mage breeds and demands excellence. Even incompetent mages are like, that one person you knew who literally found everything easy and just didn't really comprehend that things could be hard. Just being a mage means higher-than-average drive and willpower, immense self-confidence, and generally an incredibly diverse, competent range of skills and talents. Even the people who fail their Awakenings in Hermetic academies or Damian come out of it with a very good chance of Making it Big on legitimate talent alone (but they don't need to, because the Technocracy and Traditions both have their own connections and have needs for people who they can trust). Becoming prime mage material does that to you. Before Awakening, mages are the people who go to the Olympics, win Nobel prizes, get elected president or become Prime Minister or take over a country in a bloody but brilliantly executed coup. And then they get godlike power to back that up further. Is it any wonder that mages tend to be incredibly arrogant?

Roth isn't an incompetent mage. There's a lot of very low-sphere things that you can use to absolutely swing elections. Mind 1 so you can just run circles around the other person in a debate. A little bit of Mind 2 to fire people up via ads or speeches. Entropy 1 and Time 2, to see how your actions might swing the polls come election day. Spirit 1 (or Mind 2) to read the moods of crowds. Is it really 'dishonest' to use these talents simply because other people lack them?

Also here's a reminder for people who might have missed it or forgotten because of the passage of time:

Name: Warren Harvey Roth
Faction: Technocratic Union (Syndicate Disbursements)
Political Allegiance: Pro-Pogrom (Extreme)
Tactical Threat: Very High
Strategic Threat: Very High
Notes: Hates all Traditionalists. All of them. Also hates werewolves, changelings, sorcerers, ghosts, ghouls, insufficiently dedicated Technocrats, and vampires (especially Malkavians).

Warren Harvey Roth (born January 2 1969) is a Syndic assigned to the Disbursements methodology. He is the chairman and CEO of Roth Financials. He is major contributor to Paladin Security and can reliably call upon their services. In addition, he maintains a private paramilitary force known as the Birds made up of hunters he funds and arms.

Warren Roth is an extreme Pogoromite and should be considered a major threat. He should be treated as a high-end Enforcer with regards to combat capabilities in person, and has a significant personal arsenal of high-end Technocratic weaponry and vehicles. He has extensive contacts within the Union, although senior elements of the Syndicate consider him insufficiently discrete and he has been censured multiple times for public use of hypertechnology.

Publicly Available Information

Born in 1969, as the second eldest son of the Roth family of New York financiers. In 1974, his parents and elder brother were killed in a home invasion. He was privately educated and attended Harvard College, majoring in History.

In his twenties, he was a noted playboy and socialite, heavily involved with charities including the Roth Foundation. His interests in extreme sports left him hospitalised for a year following a rock-climbing accident in 1995. This led him to take a more active role in business and to step up his charitable work, saying "I opened my eyes and realised how short life could be. That moment when you think you're going to die - it changes you".

In 1996, he took up the position of chair of Roth Financial, additionally becoming CEO in 1999. Since then Roth Financial has gone from strength to strength, diversifying its interests. He earned a total of $54.2 million in 2002, as one of Wall Street's most highly paid executives. His bonus reflected the performance of Roth Financial, which reported record net earnings of $9.5 billion. The compensation included a cash bonus of $27.3 million, with the rest paid in stock and options. While CEO of Roth Financial in 2007, Roth earned a total compensation of $69,965,418, which included a base salary of $600,000, a cash bonus of $32,985,474, stocks granted of $25,542,756 and options granted of $10,453,031.

Roth Financial has managed to avoid much of the criticism directed at Wall Street through its practice of corporate reinvestment in social causes and other things that Technocrats do when they have very highly paid PR people.

TODO Wingz - Okay, we're going to need to clean this up somewhat.

Warren Roth has spoken before the Senate on several occasions, calling for improved codes of practice. He has also written several articles for the Financial Times, where he argues that the business community has the moral duty to make the world a better place in every way it can, and that even if readers don't believe it, self-interest means that financiers should do it. He has argued that regulation is inevitable, and it's better to accept a well-designed system now when people are calm and can be reasoned with than let government elements push out ill-thought bills due to public outrage.

For more information, see wikipedia's article on Warren Harvey Roth.

For once, Francesco is not driving his battered yellow taxi and he's not in his home warren of New York streets. No, he's in Idaho, in a neat black suit driving a neat black rented car. He's the very image of sober respectability.

He drives into a tired little city of maybe five thousand souls. A third of the shops on the high street are boarded up; the factory is a burned-out husk; many snow-covered front yards have Republican-red boards already up for the election later this year. He pulls to a stop in the outskirts of the city, in one of the better-fairing areas, and checks his appearance in the mirror. Everything is in order once he puts on an unneeded pair of reading glasses. Taking his briefcase, he climbs out of the warmth of the car, and shivers his way up the path to his destination.

It's a two storey house, sitting on the edge of a small copse, with a power line running over the roof. The snow is stepped high, and the path is surrounded by waist high snow on both sides. Among all the white, he is a solitary black shape. Crows settle on the bare trees and on the scarlet "Roth 2016" sign.
 
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The Technocracy are already mage-emperors, they just rule from the shadows using sleeper patsies with zero accountability. Roth standing for elected office means he puts his mouth where his money is. There will be some degree of public record of what he does and some of it might even need a little consent from the sleepers.

If he isn't playing politics in the light he'll still have the motivation and power to act but he'll be doing it in the shadows where he can more easily fall back into bad habits.
Yeah, one reason I'm voting for Positive is because... Well, what was Roth's previous position and previous methods? Pro-Pogrom, and trying to manufacture a way to kill Traditionalists and werewolves/vampires/etc.

Him deciding to walk away from that, from that position and methods both, is something that should be encouraged I think. And if he's going to be entering politics and focusing on and trying to help the normal world -- rather than trying to spark the Ascension War -- then that's a good change. That's a good direction.

The man was an extremist who was willing to kill people. If he's trying to find another direction to go in... maybe we should encourage that? And help provide aid too?

And also... This will mean Donald doing something for the Sleeper society. It'll be Donald involving himself in normal society and politics -- helping normal people, and normal people's problems. That, too, could do some good for Donald. ((Then again... it is politics sooo...))
 
I mean, what's the definition of 'honest'? Remember that being a mage breeds and demands excellence. Even incompetent mages are like, that one person you knew who literally found everything easy and just didn't really comprehend that things could be hard. Just being a mage means higher-than-average drive and willpower, immense self-confidence, and generally an incredibly diverse, competent range of skills and talents. Even the people who fail their Awakenings in Hermetic academies or Damian come out of it with a very good chance of Making it Big on legitimate talent alone (but they don't need to, because the Technocracy has its own connections and needs for people who it can mostly trust). Becoming prime mage material does that to you. Before Awakening, mages are the people who go to the Olympics, win Nobel prizes, get elected president or become Prime Minister or take over a country in a bloody but brilliantly executed coup. And then they get godlike power to back that up further. Is it any wonder that mages tend to be incredibly arrogant?

Roth isn't an incompetent mage. There's a lot of very low-sphere things that you can use to absolutely swing elections. Mind 1 so you can just run circles around the other person in a debate. A little bit of Mind 2 to fire people up via ads or speeches. Entropy 1 and Time 2, to see how your actions might swing the polls come election day. Spirit 1 (or Mind 2) to read the moods of crowds. Is it really 'dishonest' to use these talents simply because other people lack them?

Also here's a reminder for people who might have missed it or forgotten because of the passage of time:

Listen, if Donald Trump can beat Hilary Clinton than Joe Blow Masses still has a shot against Roth

> : V
 
[X] Positive

At the end of the day, this isn't "the Technocratic Union should/should not de facto rule the world." That ship has long sailed. There is very little that the TU can do with the President being directly affiliated that they couldn't do with a few advisors with Mind whispering into his ear. Any power the President has in practice over the United States and the world, the TU has long had itself.

This is a question about whether or not we should be honest about it, to some extent - to ourselves and to others. Someday maybe the TU will reveal itself entirely, though I doubt it; but at the least, we can be honest to ourselves, we can make ourselves - by which I mean Technocrats - feel somewhat uncomfortable about the fact being pushed in their face, think about what they're doing, and not try to hide our manipulations behind a thin veneer of "oh yeah it's totally ultimately their decision."

-- Well, like, there are Traditionalists who would probably say that it really matters in the end who makes the decision, something something free will and fate, but for the TU in general most of them are going to be thinking "in practical terms nothing has changed."
 
[X] Positive

At the end of the day, this isn't "the Technocratic Union should/should not de facto rule the world." That ship has long sailed. There is very little that the TU can do with the President being directly affiliated that they couldn't do with a few advisors with Mind whispering into his ear. Any power the President has in practice over the United States and the world, the TU has long had itself.
I'd argue that the Union doesn't control as much as it thinks it has, considering how much time it spends fighting itself.
"You can't punch fog." Janice shakes her head. "Without a nice big enemy to face, the Technocracy will remember that the New World Order and the Syndicate hate each other's guts. I'm a spirit-witch, remember? I've walked along Wall Street and seen the open warfare between regulatory spirits and capitalism spirits. I've read the fate of the war between the technology companies and the governments. Iteration X has devoured too much of the Virtual Adepts for their own ideological purity. Too many of the Adepts are going corporate… but the whispers of the Adepts now echo in the machine.
 
Reasons for the Technocracy to *not* go overt in its control:

- Keeping in the shadows makes the inevitable shadow wars cleaner. Roth called it himself. He's a well-known public figure. They can't get rid of him easily. Technocrats are mages, and mages are *constantly* tempted by Terrible Life Decisions of various sorts. If they're the shadowy powers behind the throne, then the shadows can clean themselves up when things get really bad, and no one in the wider world has to know. If they're at the point of being well-known public figures, though, that breaks down.

- Coming into the light intrinsically aligns the technocrats with mundane institutions. This is *already* a problem. The Russian Technocrats and the American Technocrats have their issues. The Technocracy had their little civil war during WWII. There's the issues between the various versions of Asian technocrat. Having technocrats personally take on mundane temporal power would make it worse, though, and that's not helpful for the overall health of the technocracy.

- Being the President (or equivalent) is a full-time job. Whoever's in that spot is going to be spending their life "being president" rather than "being technocracy". That's going to tend to matters of identity. It's a relatively short step from that to "Mage who is the president who's maybe associated with the technocracy some", and from that to yet further balkanization within the technocracy, and from there to mage-kings. There are existing problems that this will make worse.

- As previously noted, this doesn't really solve anything that we need solved. If we De Facto rule the world already, then what is gained from coming out of the shadows on it? It just means concentrating specific chunks of world-influence in specific technocrats... and that's not actually good. Okay, it's also doing a lot more micromanaging. Do we really want the Technocracy to do a lot more micromanaging of sleeper society? If we do, is this the way we want it done?

It maybe *sounds* like a good idea, because "gain personal power" almost always sounds like a good idea at some level, but that doesn't mean that it is.
 
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Sound like paradox backlash.
The Ivory Tower in 2016 : "Good News Everyone! We've figured out a working that will reverse the backsliding of the masses into bigotry and magical thinking! All we need to do is to show the triumph of logic, modernity and institutional expertise on the world's greatest stage. What could possibly go wrong?

The Syndicate: Remembers 2008 and starts buying popcorn futures.
 
Update CCXXVII: Spring Offensive
JB CCXXVII: Spring Offensive

Major Jane Clarent collates information from a dozen different sources as she modifies her combat plans. The enemy is a platoon of power-armored infantry and a pair of combat walkers, supported by an ARC I lazily circling through the air like a shark through water. A few infantry have been lost to weapons fire, while a damaged ARC flies despite a hole in the wing from a gamma lance and a combat walker limps on a fused knee assembly, missing an arm and several head-mounted sensors. But although even the incomplete Brass Cog was theoretically a match for the assaulting force, its pilot lacked the skill to make best use of it, especially given that the pilot is nowhere to be found-a sure sign of remote piloting. The ARCs and walkers had pinned it, then engaged it with enough concentrated fire to threaten even the Brass Cog's exotic-metal armor. More than enough firepower to penetrate the thinner internal firewalls and wreak havoc on the exposed systems of the incomplete war machine.

Her assets, on paper, are limited. The modified B-2 carrying her and her team like munitions-little more than a Masses-built shell over Q Division hypertech-is her primary source of vision, its smartskin letting her see through the warbird's structure and its cloaking field like it wasn't there. Her support includes satellite recon and recon drones-but the only munitions she has are a handful of short-range self-defense weapons on the heavier recon drones and six advanced cruise missiles. She hasn't finished building Task Force Camlann, but she knows that the Technocracy isn't squeamish enough to refuse to use a tool if it's incomplete, so long as it works. And her heavy tactical unit, a dozen high-spec cyborgs, ten of them full-conversions including herself and Kessler, is both operational and more than adequate for an operation like this.

"Wish our side had an ace pilot," Kessler jokes, "because I was hoping they'd have solved their problem already and we could just go on vacation."

"Bullshit, Sarge," one of the ex-Shock Corps commandos responds. "You love this shit, otherwise you wouldn't be here. Come on, what would you rather be doing? Lounging on a Brazilian beach, or launching yourself into a warzone at Mach 10?"

"You've got me there," Kessler responds, laughing. It's not Kessler's first time doing assault pod insertions. "But I want to know why it's been twenty years since I've last done one and the smartgel still tastes like strawberry-flavored snot." Kessler knows that this petty inconvenience has made more than one commando replace their human lungs with synthetic ones. Iteration X probably considered it a feature back then, not a bug.

"You don't have lungs anymore, you don't need to breathe it in," the same commando responds. "Think of the poor people here with regular lungs, like me. Why do they make us inhale this shit?"

"Because otherwise you'd have your lungs explode upon impact, which is generally to be avoided," another cyborg responds. "Unlike us superior full-conversions."

"Sorry that some of us didn't get upgrade priority."

"Enough," Major Clarent says. Even though her response comes through the network as nothing more than a mild statement, everyone there respects her, and the network goes silent instantly. "We're one-twenty seconds until deployment, so we're enabling low-observability comms and redundant tacnet. Do final readiness system checks, especially on life support. If your life support efficiency is anything under 98%, abort. We can handle the mission with a few aborts, and we don't benefit from landing corpses." She waits patiently as soldier after soldier checks in with armament, implant, and biomedical status, approves each of them for deployment. She's unsurprised that none of them have had to abort. Camlann has the resources to operate a tiny echelon of assault cyborgs at full efficiency just fine. The tip of the spear is still just as sharp. It's the rest of the spear which might have problems.

The rotary launcher starts to spin up, and Major Clarent feels a shudder as each projectile-assault pod or cruise missile-is launched. The cruise missiles dive towards their designated targets, acting as a vanguard to the commando assault. The sky above the forests erupts in a bouquet of orange-red explosions from spoofed proximity warheads as Oversight's forces respond. Two cruise missiles get close enough to deploy their payload through the curtain of jamming and point defense-and a heartbeat later, Oversight's aircraft are nothing more than metal vapor clouds and twisted Primium structural members spiraling down towards the forest floor. The damaged combat walker takes a half-dozen plasma-charge submunitions and burns as well, the heat from the plasmaburst warheads sufficient to ignite even metal.

A few of the tacnet indicators blink the orange of abort as ground fire intensifies from the remaining troopers-no deaths, but two troopers have taken enough damage that the pod's computer brains have shifted course for a soft abort. They'll have to be retrieved later. Major Clarent marks their locations, and watches the time until impact indicator tick downwards towards zero, sees the ground rushing towards her at an impossible speed. The screen blacks out the instant the impact indicator hits 0, and a moment later Major Clarent feels the crushing impact.

She feels the impact even through the inertial dampeners, even with a skeleton made of Primium alloy and fullerene compounds, even with artificial muscle woven from stronger-than-steel fibers and an armored, hardened cyberbrain with its own inertial dampers and shock absorbers, Major Clarent feels the impact rattle her bones. But she ignores it, and a moment later she's out of her pod, giving orders to her forces to hunt the enemy.

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Despite the inertial dampeners of the pod and the reinforcing injections and the smartgel, assault pod deployments are anything but gentle. Every one of Task Force Camlann's commandos feel the bone-jarring impact of the assault pod deployment, except for one. The ZERUEL is amorphous, designed specifically to resist forces such as this. Kessler's body harmlessly absorbs and dissipates the impact through its distributed composition, keeping him fully conscious and active during the microseconds of deceleration.

Kessler orders the pod to eject him, and the pod dutifully obeys, uploading an unstable reactionware patch to his brain in accordance to protocol. The world slows further as his cognitive acceleration factor skyrockets, and physical acceleration is boosted to a slightly lesser extreme. The patch can only safely last a handful of seconds-but it gives the trooper a tool to fight their way out of a bad position or exploit a good position.

The pod shudders as area-suppression charges detonate, the passenger module disintegrating around him into a cloud of shrapnel and dissolving smartgel. At this level of cognitive acceleration, the battlefield is nearly frozen-and so is he. His movements are like swimming through concrete, a side effect of his cognitive acceleration far outstripping his physical acceleration.

There's a suit of power armor pinned underneath a fallen tree, an unfortunate Oversight trooper who ended up too close to the pod. His Haldeman is structurally intact, which means he's probably unconscious or crippled rather than dead. Two humanoid heat shimmers move fractionally towards him, a handful of millimeters at a time. Kessler can see through their camouflage, and concludes from their inhumanly fast, jerky movements that they're probably augmented or on combat drugs.

He targets both soldiers with a barrage of basic minimissiles, the launchers falling away from his armor suit after they empty their payloads. Point defense systems start to scythe the munitions out of the sky with ribbons of ultraviolet light or bursts of directional shrapnel, but they don't get all of them, and one power-armored enemy vanishes for a moment underneath the impacts of several high-explosive warheads before he or she dives through the explosions, returning fire with blue-white lances of plasma. Molten filaments of ablative armor shed from Kessler's powersuit where the enemy plasma rifle scores glancing blows, the white-hot rivulets starting small fires wherever they hit the forest floor.

Tacnet informs him his fireteam's sniper can get line of fire to the hostilesand simultaneously, the Oversight commando staggers as a blue-white beam cuts through forest. His partner moves to break line of sight from the sniper-giving Kessler enough time to start hammering away at the wounded Oversight operative with the heavy railgun. Blue-white lances and explosions surround him, but he keeps his weapon steady, chewing the target apart, even as orange armor breach warnings and yellow damage indicators fill the ZERUEL's HUD. Kessler's fought rogue cyborgs and the blessed warriors of the Traditions. He's seen men sprint faster than a car on two broken legs, stay fighting for an hour with their heart destroyed from a plasma lance that should have vaporized their body with it. He's fought through Chantries with major organs destroyed and running on tertiary power, with a leg fused into a solid mass from the heat of a Reality Deviant fireball. He knows what you need to kill a determined combatant.

The second trooper dodges deeper into the forest to avoid the fate of his comrade, still firing all the while. Blue-white spears of plasma impact Kessler's armor, generating scintillating auroras from its defensive fields and setting nearby foliage on fire. Kessler marks them in tacnet as he returns fire, and a quartet of heavy missiles arc up past the forest canopy, then make Mach 20 death-dives on the unfortunate Oversight commando, presaged by a wavefront of basilisk code to corrupt enemy point defense fire control. Two explosions fountain debris dozens of meters up, and Kessler puts another pair of missiles and tasks another soldier's gun drone on the target to confirm the kill.

Kessler's perceptions rush back to normal as the boost wears off. "Looks like they're taking Roth pretty seriously," he comments. "Those were what? MA-31s? 33s? I can't tell without looking at their internals." They're years more advanced than anything he's used, but the ZERUEL has extremely comprehensive databases, and he's kept up with modern military hardware since his unintended exile.

"Sounds about right." Major Clarent sends back. "We've encountered five of them so far, including the two you've hit. If they're using a full heavy element, there should be three more. They were prepared for heavy intervention."

Kessler nods. "They're also pretty well-versed in anti-cyborg tactics. They didn't bother with the light guns, just went at us with lasers, plasma, and high-yield guided ordinance."

"So what's your evaluation?" Major Clarent asks.

"I'm a bit out of date," Kessler admits, "but I think these folks aren't our evil twins. They've got the gear and they were definitely not baseline, but they fought more like NWO than Iterators." He's been thinking about this throughout the fight, and he's had more than enough time to do his research. "And I can see from tacnet that several of the Haldeman users were a lot stronger and faster than unaugmented humans would be. So NWO or Syndicate Enforcers, using genemods or drugs or minor cybernetics and high-end suits, backed up by either non-Enlightened cyborgs or even 'borged-up masses armed forces in lower-end kit. I noticed that the data package Major Dubois sent to us when calling for retrieval mentioned a lot of Oversight operations were conducted by NWO tactical or Syndicate Enforcers if they couldn't use patsies with a legitimate excuse. I had my theories as to why that might be when I saw it, but this fight makes it a lot more likely that they're relying on those because they couldn't trust the Shock Corps or Damage Control not to leak. Even in Izanagi, most of the rogue Progenitors weren't Damage Control. Just augmented and individually dangerous. And our experience in Ragnarok was that command structures for our cyborgs were largely intact, the problem was HITMarks and robots."

"I concur. So the bad news is that they're already busy breaching their way through the compound. But," Major Clarent says drily, "the good news is that the ones who are really dangerous are probably NWO." She doesn't have to tell them the tactical situation-tacnet does that for her. Twenty enemies killed or incapacitated, including five MA-32 users and both of the combat walkers, at the cost of four casualties, one recoverable fatality. There's brief laughter on comms. Without pausing for the laughter to subside, Major Clarent sends another set of tactical coordination plans over tacnet for a sweep and clear of the Etherite base. She doesn't need to do anything more, as the ex-Iteration X commandos of Camlann respond as one. "Just remember, these are going to be NWO tactical teams," Major Clarent sends, "and NWO tactical teams are very good at what they do. Don't underestimate them."

Kessler acknowledges her over the network. They won't underestimate the enemy, who are well-equipped, well-trained, and very skilled. But in a few minutes of brutal room-to-room fighting, Task Force Camlann's cyborgs demonstrate again why the Shock Corps was-and still is-the premier combat arm of the Technocratic Union, not the NWO's tactical operatives or the Syndicate's enforcers, and why all of them are a cut above the Masses no matter what equipment they use.

"You look like shit, Donald." Kessler observes idly, when he finds the Ragnarok team and their VIP hiding in what looks like a panic room. Oversight wouldn't have been stupid enough to let them have a clear evac route, and if they hadn't found any undocumented secret entrances or exits, it would have been pointless to try to flee through exits mined with monofilament slicers and claymores without more time to defuse the mines before Oversight could corner them.

"You say I look like shit but you don't look much better either, John." Donald jokes back weakly, taking a meaningful glance at the plasma burns on Kessler's armor and the railgun penetrations. "How's it been?"

"Pretty good," Kessler admits. "Been making some progress cleaning house. Good work holding out, all of you. We've got an ARC coming in for evac now that the area is clear, and if that doesn't work we have enough spare power and ammo to walk you out of the jungle if need be. You," he says to Roth, "are a pretty high priority VIP right now. So we're here to keep you safe. Major Dubois, the facility should be clear, but Major Clarent and the rest of the forces are doing a sweep for any surprises Oversight left us." The name Roth gave for the enemy group. "We'll escort you and the VIP out."

Adele nods curtly, lowering her weapon fractionally. "Sergeant Major Kessler. As you can see, we are largely uninjured, although we're somewhat low on ammunition and explosives." Kessler notices the streaks of dried, rust-red blood on her face and on the tears in her and Constable Bennett's body armor, but he knows that they're just evidence of their impossible, shapeshifter-like healing abilities.

"Hey, dragonslayer." Elsa says back, tiredly. She looks a little worse off than the Progenitors, with several tears in her synthskin revealing carbon-black dermal plates or synthmuscle and dried electroconductive gel. Kessler can see silvery Primium, dull from scratches, from where an explosion stripped her shin to the bone. But her wide grin and animated eyes show that she isn't even a little tired, despite the damage. "Glad you could take some time out of your busy schedule punching jumbo-jet size dragons in the face to help us with some small fry."

Kessler grins back. "I heard South America was a great vacation spot, and I just had to join in. Got a little lost on the way to the beach, though. You did great work holding out."

"We lost the Bobs and Vanessas that Roth used here and still had codes to," Elsa says, "and that helped a lot, because we could use them to delay them at chokepoints. Then it was just hide and seek ambushes, until they started moving in larger groups with heavier hardware. We lost the rest of the constructs that way."

"Did you lose anyone?" Roth finally replies, with what sounds like legitimate concern. If he noticed the lack of an honorific, it doesn't show on his face or in his voice. Kessler's surprised that Warren Roth could sound regretful. Proud men like that rarely are, and Kessler knows that very well. What, Kessler wonders, changed his worldview? What trauma or revelation was capable of breaking that pride and showing him how to change? The Syndicate executive puts his weapon down, finally, and holds his arms straight ahead, daring-or perhaps begging-to be led away in handcuffs. Still some pride left, then.

"No deaths. Several casualties." Kessler responds. He and his team don't bother handcuffing Roth, but they do take his weapons from him-and he allows them to without complaint.

But Kessler understands the number of dead commandos isn't what Roth really wants to know. He wants absolution of a sort. And that, Kessler can't give. All he can do is bring him back to Command, let him tell them about Oversight and about Control. And perhaps that might be enough to plant a seed, that one day might let Roth forgive himself for what he's wanted to do. Because if someone wants grace, they can't hope for either the forgiveness of heaven or the punishment of hell. The only thing they can do is to live with the consequences of their actions.

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"Shouldn't the Void Engineers be dealing with alien invasions instead of outsourcing?" Corporal Goodman asks, adjusting the fit of his equipment. Like all of the combat cyborgs in the helicopter, he's wearing tactical gear with "FBI" scrawled on it in big block letters, over an artificial muscle suit. Although he's not heavily augmented by the standards of Camlann's heavy units or the Shock Corps's best, he's still an exojock with the massive myomer-augmented bulk and Primium skeletal reinforcement that entails, with reaction boosters and cybereyes and dermal reinforcement. Of the dozen men and women in the Shedu's passenger compartment, several are like Goodman-talented neophytes with just enough experience to understand how to make use of their skills and augmentations, but inexperienced enough that forming them into a cohesive team should be easier than with old veterans. All are augmented, but the augmentation is akin to the modern Shock Corps rather than the old throwbacks of Kessler's last mission in Brazil. Militarized prosthetic limbs and subtle Primium skeletal mesh and light dermal armor. Kessler and Major Clarent are the only full cyborgs, and only three of the twelve are exojocks.

Kessler notes that Goodman seems more comfortable with his equipment than the rest of the team-but a few years ago, he was still SWAT, before the 'mass shooter' and the hospital stay and the new job offer for a crippled hero with a bullet in his spine. "It's standard procedure to send cyborgs against Pleiadians," Kessler explains, "because psychic powers aren't so hot on cyborgs. VEs don't have many cyborgs stationed groundside anymore, so that's why we're loading up with phase disruptors and phasic rounds for this op." The operation itself is routine-rural America has been host to an abnormally high number of EDE incursions for as long as Kessler remembers. He's fought his way through small-town nightmares involving evil snow queens or bulbous-eyed psychic aliens or ghosts of slave plantation owners several times. It's why he thinks this is an excellent final examination for the new soldiers of Camlann. It's relatively low risk, but still unpredictable enough and dangerous enough that he can make sure that they don't just test well.

"What do you think about our new recruits?" Major Clarent sends over private tacnet channel, as she checks her carbine and its blue-tipped EDE disruptor rounds. "They scored well in both unit cohesion and individual prowess, but you thought we should run them through an actual mission first before I turned them over to subordinate officers."

"You don't know how things work in the field until you field-test them. It's a tautology," Kessler admits, "but that doesn't make it untrue. But I think they'll do fine. I'm more interested in the other missing pieces of our org chart."

"Soldiers are easy, but leadership material is hard." Clarent admits. "Almost everyone who I'd want in a leadership position is too experienced to be easy to bring over and too comfortable in their own position, or too ambitious to stay there for long."

"You asked me to consider every angle," Kessler responds, "so let's consider if we need another tactical operative to lead a tactical team right now. We've got plenty of good soldiers, and we can promote a few of them internally if we need to. Lieutenant Sylia did well last op, and I don't think anyone would object if you decided that she was ready for further responsibility."

"I agree that 2LT Sylia might be a decent choice for command, but if we do that, I assume you don't want to waste our resources. So you'd want to use the resources and favors earmarked for acquiring senior personnel for people who can provide us connections or intelligence instead of firepower?" Clarent asks. "We have plenty of logistics and support assets, so I'm curious why you want more unconventional warfare and espionage types."

"As much as I'm an ex-exojock, I appreciate the necessity of covert operations. I'm just not the sort of person who wants to be doing them." Kessler responds. Even as he is, his mind is considering a dozen other problems-running an inventory of his arsenal, analyzing the tactical maps and known UFO floorplans, analyzing documentation of Pleiadian weapons and equipment, making modifications to the anti-psionic programs running in the Camlann team's ADEIs. "I'm not exactly demanding or recommending more covert operatives or hackers, but I wanted to raise the possibility to make sure we were thinking of all the angles. Our drone pilots, cyberwarfare team, and Brakowski's NWO tac-team are fine for most quiet jobs. If push comes to shove, we're pretty well covered on that front. Our recon and intel section also has a handful of ex-NWO we've accumulated from Ragnarok who could be sent into the field if we needed it. But the question is what we're actually doing." Kessler sends back. "If we're mostly handling direct action, and our intel support exists mostly to find doors to kick, we're well-equipped for that. If we're planning on doing quieter ops, maybe not so much."

"Camlann's remit is so broad it could cover almost everything." Major Clarent replies distractedly, the bulk of her attention spent on mapping out the old, dying industry town and the nearby Pleiadian UFO they're here to seize. "It's an independent special forces operation intended to handle sensitive, high-risk operations, which covers almost anything that could involve combat or armed reconnaissance."

"Not much of a help," Kessler agrees. "So what do you think?"

"I'm thinking maybe we should structure our missing echelon this way," Clarent says, sending a file. "They should help fill in what I see as useful additional capabilities while avoiding overspecialization. Speaking of structure," Clarent sends, "are you going to actually take that promotion?"

"Wouldn't feel right," Kessler says. "But I don't think I have a choice." Ragnarok doesn't work like the Shock Corps. Enlightened personnel should be officers. The NWO and Void Engineers both did it that way, as did the pilots and vehicle jockeys in the Shock Corps. Only cyborg special ops teams doggedly stuck to Enlightened 'enlisted.' Not that there was much of a difference when chances were you were in for life either way. "When in Rome..." Kessler says. In the end, times change. People change. And clinging to the past and to nostalgia wouldn't serve any purpose.

"Then allow me to congratulate you, Lieutenant Kessler." Major Clarent sends.

John Kessler grins. He's still not sure he deserves the rank, but hell. He's been a general in the movies. He'll make it work.



The secondary unit should be online soon. It's currently undergoing preparations and should be operational within six months:
Kessler and Clarent are discussing senior staff members and team leads for Camlann operations. Note that this is, as said above, more of a statement of where they think the task force is going to go, and what they want to do, than some major way to acquire new goodies or whatever. So consider it in that context. Posts which explain your reasoning for why you think a certain personnel choice is pushing Camlann into a certain way of acting or thinking will be helpful for that. Omakes may also give votes more weight, if you want to do that.

Of the following, they settle on two final choices for senior personnel:

[ ] HITMark VII Test Unit 02 'Astrea'-The Ideal: The Astrea unit is a HITMark VII Posthuman Tactical Command Intelligence test model, a post-1999 HITMark design that is intended to act as a dedicated command and control unit, rather than leading assaults. Although still heavily armored and armed for self-defense, the HITMark VII's cost is largely due to their brain being a powerful quantum hypercomputer, providing them with massively superhuman cognitive ability in just about any way you care to name. Astrea herself is an early test model, and has about seven months of experience-just enough experience to sand away some of the rough edges of a combat construct. Although her flexibility would be limited compared to an Enlightened officer, her superhuman intellect, multitasking ability, and integrated command, control, and communications hardware make her nearly unmatched at planning and commanding operations. And moreover, the Iterators on her team would very much appreciate Ragnarok demonstrating the viability of their design in the field.
  • Hyperintelligent tactical intelligence designed for leadership duty
  • not Enlightened
  • Quantum hypercomputer provides acausal data analysis (Time 2/Mind 1), zero-time cognition (Time 4/Mind 1), fast-Bayesian tactical solution matching (Time 2/Entropy 2)
  • Advanced C4ISR system for total battlespace coordination (Mind/Forces/Correspondence 2)
  • Secondary tactical computer system provides various tactical subroutines for self-defense purposes
  • Hardened hyperalloy combat chassis with integrated weapons systems and self-repair capability based on heavily upgraded HITMark V/SP3 chassis-superhuman strength, speed, durability, integrated plasma cannon and secondary energy weapons, Primium vibroblades, HURRICANE close-in blast projector
  • Synthflesh shell designed by collaboration between Japanese and Chinese iterators for maximum demographic appeal

[ ]Captain Lixing Zhao-The Treadstone: Much like how more than a few Operatives think the Shock Corps is full of unsubtle thugs who have a phobia of dirt, the Shock Corps too often sees the Operatives as oversexed cowards who should complain less about being put into mild danger some of the time. But NWO tactical units are still respectable combatants who even the Shock Corps have to acknowledge are dangerous men and women, and an experienced NWO commander of said tactical units is quite valuable-it's not an occupation conducive to living a long life. Captain Zhao has spent decades in NWO tactical operations, primarily engaging in espionage support activities such as hot-zone extraction, long-range reconnaissance, and special forces assaults, all with no cybernetic or genetic augmentations-just a long-term drug regimen and biofeedback conditioning. The benefit of having lower profile soldiers who can act in plainclothes and hide from enemy senses is invaluable. But both Kessler and Clarent are aware that drugs and biofeedback training might make you tough and strong and impervious to pain, but they don't make you bulletproof.
  • NWO Operative Tactical Team Commander
  • One of the founders of China's earliest special forces units, inducted into NWO 03/1990 after late Enlightening
  • Spheres: Correspondence 2, Entropy 1, Forces 2, Life 2, Matter 4 (Improvisation), Prime 4 (Personalization), Time 3
  • Expert in armed and unarmed combat, small unit leadership, trained in wide variety of intrusion and espionage techniques
  • Fluent in Chinese, English, Hindi, Japanese, Korean
  • Physiopharmaceutical augmentation-IRON HAND pharmaceutical regimen (pain and fatigue suppression, improved strength and endurance, reaction speed and perception enhancements), MITHRADATES inoculation (toxin and bioweapon resistance)
  • Interests-Chinese literature and poetry, international relations, national security policy, cooking TV shows, Bollywood action movies

[ ]Alex O'Shea-The Cyberspace Cowboy: Flamboyant and talented, Alex was a hot-shit VA cyberpunk until false accusations of Neffandery forced them to go corporate for protection. Even after they managed to prove their innocence and find the real culprit, enough bridges had been burnt that staying in Iteration X looked like a much safer choice. Although going corporate has done a number on their VA-rep, the occasional attempt to take them down in the Digital Web has kept them sharp, and their target choice and influence has kept them embedded in the VA rumor mill. Kessler and Clarent can offer them the chance to be a real hero, going up against the digital equivalent of dragons, as well as a chance to strike a blow against Threat Null and avenge lost friends. Although Alex provides raw talent to Camlann's cyberwarfare assets, the main reason Kessler thinks Alex might be useful is because they have Traditions contacts and therefore might be a useful intelligence resource if carefully managed. Major Clarent isn't sure how they'll adjust to the more organized and regimented ways of Shock Corps cybercommandos than being a Iteration X techie, though.
  • Ex-Virtual Adept superhacker
  • Self-taught coder and hacker, known authority problems
  • Spheres: Correspondence 4 (Digital Web), Forces 4 (Electronics), Mind 4 (AI), Prime 4 (Programming)
  • Extensive VA and masses hacker contacts after having cleared their name of false Neffandery accusations
  • Targeted by Pentex for termination due to cyberattacks against Pentex electronic infrastructure
  • Extensive neural augmentation-ADEI, superconducting neural shunts, integrated AI submind assistant, implanted electromagnetic effector system
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 Kill/Death Ratio: 11.29 (reported 19,248 times for hacking)

[ ]Lieutenant Anjali Sylia-The Champion: Sometimes you just need reliable personnel who know the culture and tactics of the group they're joining and can fit into the group without tension. As a Shock Corps veteran, Lieutenant Sylia fits that mold well, especially since she's operated with Camlann since its inception. Her combat record is sparse-she only entered service a decade ago, after the end of the Ascension war-but like many Shock Corps officers it's very distinguished. She specializes in close assault owing in part to her Vrishpara-class tactical body and talent in custom wetware coding. Unfortunately, her husband is Adrian Sylia, an Iterator who has, despite his best efforts, never become anything more than an Exceptional Citizen, and therefore her familial connections are somewhat limited.
  • Iteration X Shock Corps commando, now attached to TF Camlann
  • Recruited into Iteration X 06/2004 from MIT after Awakening ~01/2004, was offered, and accepted, transfer to Shock Corps due to high test scores for tactical problem solving, bravery, and mental resilience
  • Recruited into Task Force CAMLANN by Major Jane Clarent upon CAMLANN's inception
  • Spheres: Correspondence 3, Mind 3, Matter 4 (Cybernetics), Prime 3
  • Vrishpara-class militarized cybernetic body (post-1999 variant of the Uziel close quarters conversion). Augmentation optimized for close quarters combat-overclocked HELIOS reflex booster, electromagnetic muscle boosters, inertial dampening systems, fullerene mesh dermal weave.
  • Competent engineer, computer programmer, and intrusion specialist. Expert special forces commander.
  • Married Macrotechnician Adrian Sylia 11/2014. 2 children, Parvati Elene Sylia (decanted 09/2015), Richard Aditya Sylia (decanted 10/2015).

[ ] Agent Alya al-Saud-The Dilettante: A look at Alya al-Saud's academic credentials would impress anyone in the Ivory Tower or Syndicate. Her family expected her to become a young influencer who could advance the Syndicate's causes and long-term plans. Instead, she took a completely different turn and decided to go play soldier, using her contacts to get tactical training and augmentation and use that to get a position in the Enforcers. Due to family influence, she's promptly gotten stuck in operations she's utterly overqualified for-it's hardly necessary to send an Enlightened, heavily augmented agent to deal with Pentex paying local gangs in bane-tainted drugs to harass rival companies out of the area. She clearly has some talent-her skills are perfectly adequate for the job and Kessler thinks that if she's forced to apply herself rather than coast on connections and augmentations she'll improve rapidly. But right now, she's a middling mage whose benefit would largely be in exploiting her connections-and if handled poorly, she could become a liability.
  • Augmented Enforcer (direct action concentration)
  • Graduated Damian 06/2000 with the equivalent of a MBA, a Ph.D in economics, and a LLB. Admitted to Bentham Tactical Operations program 09/2001, after prior third-party private training in tactical operations. Graduated from Bentham with a General Tactical Operations Certification and an Intermediate Espionage Certification 11/2004.
  • Spheres: Correspondence 1, Dimensional Science 2, Entropy 1, Forces 1, Life 2, Mind 2, Primal Utility 2
  • Extensive genetic enhancement-muscle strength, speed and endurance improvements, skeletal fullerene deposits, improved cardiovascular effectiveness, improved memory and cognitive/reaction speed, improved sensory acuity, improved healing and toxin/bioweapon resistance
  • Cybernetic augmentation-ADEI with tactical submodules, nanomedical implants, Primium bone lacing, fullerene skinweave, precision skeletal joint micromotors, implanted SAFEGUARD shield generator for vital organ protection
  • Extensive but shallow expertise in many fields, polyglot
  • Family contacts provide her with high-end equipment and extensive resources despite low-priority missions. Extensive wardrobe of fullerene-weave smart clothing with integrated offensive and defensive functions.
  • Mostly untested in combat against near-peer or peer opponents. However, analysis of prior combat engagements shows adequate understanding of ranged and close-combat fundamentals and high-end tactical training.
  • Known to the public as "that Saudi princess who seems to spend most of her time just accumulating random degrees and occasionally posts fashion photos on Instagram." Nobody really understands how she manages to still keep up with fashion trends while accumulating degrees for no reason. Nobody would expect her to be able to crush a man's skull in one hand like a grape either. However, the masses impression that she's basically just wasting her talent is probably accurate.
  • Considered a bad influence on Aqidah al-Saud, which is probably why the two are in regular contact via instant messaging.
[ ] Elias Richter-The Troubleshooter: Control didn't only have the Abjad as its bloody-handed messengers. Sometimes, an old mage is never quite in the right state of mind to make the leap, but they nevertheless manage to stay alive against the odds and accumulate an unbelievable amount of experience and talent. Agent Richter is one of those rare unicorns-a man who has never quite achieved the right circumstances to realize the truth behind the world, but has nevertheless been so, so useful that Control has used him, and a few similar agents, as weapons for centuries. Old men and women blessed with immortality from the stolen secrets and rituals of the moon goddess's bloody usurper-spawn, their blood rich with god-slaying magics-or alien technology discovered and used by those who barely understood it. He has killed so many for Control. Most of the corpses he left deserved it. Many did not. When Control came to him years ago, he had at first welcomed them and the reassurance of their guidance. The reassurance that all the things he did, all the bloody cruel things, were necessary and just. So long as he listened to Control, he could avoid the last pangs of conscience that might have troubled him, suborn his will to that of the wisdom of others. But Richter was never a foolish man, and it took hardly a single mission before this man, who had seen so much of Control's actions and understood so much about them, had qualms about what Oversight was doing. When he brought up his concerns to his supervisor, she disagreed with him. A brief exchange of views occurred, at the end of which Richter was healing from multiple gunshot wounds and a severe case of disembowelment, and his supervisor-a heavily augmented exojock-had been killed with nothing more than a letter opener with Richter's blood on it despite having a Mjolnir in her desk drawer and several guards on-call. Subsequently, Agent Richter vanished without a trace-and as one of Control's weapons, his operations and personnel files were classified enough that nobody could say what happened to him. Only recently has Ragnarok Command realized that he, like a surprising number of others, had been fighting their own personal wars against Panopticon and Oversight. Why he wishes to join Camlann is unknown. Perhaps it might be justice he seeks. Perhaps it might be vengeance. And perhaps it might just be power. His loyalty to the Union, and his opposition to what Control is now, are both clear. But an old knight like this comes with the weight of years and history, both for good and for ill.

  • Former Ragnarok Command LOKI Agent, originally recruited by the Order of Reason in 1658; former Knights Templar, Operative, and SPECTRE
  • Very close association with the Inner Circle, Invisible College, and Control. Acted as troubleshooter for all three groups, primarily focusing on external enforcement of Invisible College edicts and Control orders. Most of the people he killed deserved it. Most.
  • Spheres: Correspondence 4 (Surveillance), Entropy 5 (Anything Can Be Killed), Forces 3, Life 4 (Self-Improvement), Matter 3, Mind 4 (Interrogation), Prime 5 (God's Wrath Paradox Mitigation), Time 3, Spirit 4 (Banishment)
  • Received Combat Bionano Augmentation in 1660; apparent age ~30. Side effects of CBA have required Agent Richter to avoid prolonged operations on Earth, leaving him with a limited view of the human condition and a slight misanthropic streak. Subsequent custom firmware patches to CBA have optimized almost all aspects of Agent biology.
    • Combat Bionano Augmentation: Xenosourced nanotechnology originally used by Order of Reason after discovery from unknown sources. Rare and expensive, but potent full-body combat enhancement providing improved physical ability, rapid regeneration, injury tolerance, and physical adaptability.
    • Reality Deviants would say that the Order of Reason just stole a bunch of Hermetic and Verbena rituals and repackaged them.
  • Additional augmentation includes Primium prosthetics for several bones including gradual replacement of sternum and rib cage, xenotech derived neural nanoware, and an ADEI implant (replacing an older uDEI).
  • Recruited by PANOPTICON/OVERSIGHT 09/14/2008, left PANOPTICON/OVERSIGHT 11/16/2008 after suspicions confirmed that PANOPTICON/OVERSIGHT was violating Precepts of Damian.
  • Contacted Ragnarok Command/LOKI command during counterintelligence 03/2016 during LOKI sweep of constructs and personnel for Oversight operatives, offered resources and intelligence on PANOPTICON/OVERSIGHT. Cooperation with LOKI provided significant actionable intelligence on OVERSIGHT operations.
  • Given prior loyalty to Union ideals and an idealized understanding of Union leadership, it is extremely unlikely that Agent Richter is an OVERSIGHT infiltrator-particularly given the assets and operations that he has disrupted via his cooperation.
  • However, joining Camlann would be a significant change of focus from an operative who reported directly to Technocratic high command and suggests a significant shift in Agent Richter's thinking-or the possibility that he seeks to replace Major Clarent as Camlann's commander.
Adhoc vote count started by MJ12 Commando on Mar 18, 2019 at 4:17 PM, finished with 159 posts and 40 votes.

Adhoc vote count started by MJ12 Commando on Mar 18, 2019 at 4:18 PM, finished with 159 posts and 40 votes.
 
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I mean we can talk both about what cool stuff they bring but also where they direct the story. Like as long as we keep in mind that these are choices on how the narrative will be shaped, what sort of missions the team will be undertaking, then I think a discussion of their capabilities and what they grand us could be on point.

With that in mind, I'm definitely leaning towards the Ex-VA hacker. Cultivating VA contacts would probably be pretty helpful, and from a mission objective role, having a superhacker to help with mundane shit as well as not so mundane shit that can't just be solved with MORE GUNS puts us into a place I'd be interested in talking about. In particular, I could see it as an opportunity- with a bit of risk- to cultivate the guy into a competent, reliable asset. Since ze's a former VA, ze's already probably mentally primed for the sort of internal culture we want for the operating group. Yes, likely to be a lose cannon and annoying at first, but someone who can really be counted on when it comes down to the line.

Sylia is another decent choice- centralizes the task force firmly as the shock corps derivative that it is, but gives us in house reliability and is probably at a good point to get some extra authority. She's boring and ordinary- by our standards- but that can be a good thing because often you don't need more/better/different assets, but the ability to better manage the assets you have. With her, we could delegate more work, freeing up our command group enough to leverage their own formidable skills when needed without worrying about the team's efficiency suffering.

The Saudi Princess is liable to put us in the news, but on the other foot, a significant funding bump for missions could be beneficial. Money is one of the greatest super powers after all, and she's got a lot of skills that could be beneficial, if at the cost of us having a particularly wide remit. Not personally a fan, but you could definitely make an argument for her, especially since she has Dsci, which helps vs aliens and nullites.

Zhao, meanwhile, potentially has us retreading old ground. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's also not something I'm super interested in. With him we'd be putting together for missions that are more spot response, trouble shooting, or jamelia-esque in nature, and I'm concerned that as a NWO frontline combat specialized he might end up underutilized. On the other hand, he's hypercompetent, and had a lot of experience- and a lot of experience putting together teams like this. That could be beneficial or he could end up clashing with our leadership more unconventional choices. One thing Zhao has going for him is time. Pre/Postcognition is very powerful when used well and I wouldn't underestimate it.

Then there's the HitMark, which brings a lot of battlefield coordination ability, is definitely reliable but comes with problems of its own. She hasn't been operating for really long enough to develop the sort of personality that makes a strategic level command platform into the sort of leader you'd want leading forces, but if assigned to the team we'd be able to influence that development. That, and having her design team ingratiated to us could be beneficial too.

If I had to order them on escalating risk/reward I'd put them like this:

1. Sylia (The safe choice)
2. Zhao
3. Anjali
4. Astrea
5. Alex (The gamble)

So with that in mind.

[X]Alex O'Shea-The Cyberspace Cowboy
[X] HITMark VII Test Unit 02 'Astrea'-The Ideal
 
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  • Hyperintelligent tactical intelligence designed for leadership duty
  • not Enlightened
  • Quantum hypercomputer provides acausal data analysis (Time 2/Mind 1), zero-time cognition (Time 4/Mind 1), fast-Bayesian tactical solution matching (Time 2/Entropy 2)
  • Advanced C4ISR system for total battlespace coordination (Mind/Forces/Correspondence 2)
  • Secondary tactical computer system provides various tactical subroutines for self-defense purposes
  • Hardened hyperalloy combat chassis with integrated weapons systems and self-repair capability based on heavily upgraded HITMark V/SP3 chassis-superhuman strength, speed, durability, integrated plasma cannon and secondary energy weapons, Primium vibroblades, HURRICANE close-in blast projector
  • Synthflesh shell designed by collaboration between Japanese and Chinese iterators for maximum demographic appeal
Thats a tacfu!
  • NWO Operative Tactical Team Commander
  • One of the founders of China's earliest special forces units, inducted into NWO 03/1990 after late Enlightening
  • Spheres: Correspondence 2, Entropy 1, Forces 2, Life 2, Matter 4 (Improvisation), Prime 4 (Personalization), Time 3
  • Expert in armed and unarmed combat, small unit leadership, trained in wide variety of intrusion and espionage techniques
  • Fluent in Chinese, English, Hindi, Japanese, Korean
  • Physiopharmaceutical augmentation-IRON HAND pharmaceutical regimen (pain and fatigue suppression, improved strength and endurance, reaction speed and perception enhancements), MITHRADATES inoculation (toxin and bioweapon resistance)
  • Interests-Chinese literature and poetry, international relations, national security policy, cooking TV shows, Bollywood action movies

Kessler with a Bollywood fan sounds fun.
Subtle and NWO with experience to boot makes a good counterpoint...but not really a backstage person so muchas a hands on improvising superspy

  • Ex-Virtual Adept superhacker
  • Self-taught coder and hacker, known authority problems
  • Spheres: Correspondence 4 (Digital Web), Forces 4 (Electronics), Mind 4 (AI), Prime 4 (Programming)
  • Extensive VA and masses hacker contacts after having cleared their name of false Neffandery accusations
  • Targeted by Pentex for termination due to cyberattacks against Pentex electronic infrastructure
  • Extensive neural augmentation-ADEI, superconducting neural shunts, integrated AI submind assistant, implanted electromagnetic effector system
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 Kill/Death Ratio: 11.29 (reported 19,248 times for hacking)
Internet Badass, though its kind of rare to see a defector keep up their contacts.
  • Iteration X Shock Corps commando, now attached to TF Camlann
  • Recruited into Iteration X 06/2004 from MIT after Awakening ~01/2004, was offered, and accepted, transfer to Shock Corps due to high test scores for tactical problem solving, bravery, and mental resilience
  • Recruited into Task Force CAMLANN by Major Jane Clarent upon CAMLANN's inception
  • Spheres: Correspondence 3, Mind 3, Matter 4 (Cybernetics), Prime 3
  • Vrishpara-class militarized cybernetic body (post-1999 variant of the Uziel close quarters conversion). Augmentation optimized for close quarters combat-overclocked HELIOS reflex booster, electromagnetic muscle boosters, inertial dampening systems, fullerene mesh dermal weave.
  • Competent engineer, computer programmer, and intrusion specialist. Expert special forces commander.
  • Married Macrotechnician Adrian Sylia 11/2014. 2 children, Parvati Elene Sylia (decanted 09/2015), Richard Aditya Sylia (decanted 10/2015).
Good frontliner with some intrusions skill. Didn't really grab me tho
  • Augmented Enforcer (direct action concentration)
  • Graduated Damian 06/2000 with the equivalent of a MBA, a Ph.D in economics, and a LLB. Admitted to Bentham Tactical Operations program 09/2001, after prior third-party private training in tactical operations. Graduated from Bentham with a General Tactical Operations Certification and an Intermediate Espionage Certification 11/2004.
  • Spheres: Correspondence 1, Dimensional Science 2, Entropy 1, Forces 1, Life 2, Mind 2, Primal Utility 2
  • Extensive genetic enhancement-muscle strength, speed and endurance improvements, skeletal fullerene deposits, improved cardiovascular effectiveness, improved memory and cognitive/reaction speed, improved sensory acuity, improved healing and toxin/bioweapon resistance
  • Cybernetic augmentation-ADEI with tactical submodules, nanomedical implants, Primium bone lacing, fullerene skinweave, precision skeletal joint micromotors, implanted SAFEGUARD shield generator for vital organ protection
  • Extensive but shallow expertise in many fields, polyglot
  • Family contacts provide her with high-end equipment and extensive resources despite low-priority missions. Extensive wardrobe of fullerene-weave smart clothing with integrated offensive and defensive functions.
  • Mostly untested in combat against near-peer or peer opponents. However, analysis of prior combat engagements shows adequate understanding of ranged and close-combat fundamentals and high-end tactical training.
  • Known to the public as "that Saudi princess who seems to spend most of her time just accumulating random degrees and occasionally posts fashion photos on Instagram." Nobody really understands how she manages to still keep up with fashion trends while accumulating degrees for no reason. Nobody would expect her to be able to crush a man's skull in one hand like a grape either. However, the masses impression that she's basically just wasting her talent is probably accurate.
  • Considered a bad influence on Aqidah al-Saud, which is probably why the two are in regular contact via instant messaging.

That looks rather like a more outgoing Jamalia at first glance. A second glance busts that.

[X]Captain Lixing Zhao-The Treadstone
[X]Agent Alya al-Saud-The Dilettante

Ultimately...I think I like Old Salt Kessler working with a relatively green and clean newbie.
 
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[X] HITMark VII Test Unit 02 'Astrea'-The Ideal
[X]Agent Alya al-Saud-The Dilettante

I'm happy to see Rose 2.0: Command variant. Might as well go the princess too.
 
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Two of these options -- especially Sylia and Al-Saud -- sound a lot like older versions of characters we've met. Both by name and by description of what they do, or their backgrounds.
[ ] HITMark VII Test Unit 02 'Astrea'-The Ideal: The Astrea unit is a HITMark VII Posthuman Tactical Command Intelligence test model, a post-1999 HITMark design that is intended to act as a dedicated command and control unit, rather than leading assaults.
  • Hyperintelligent tactical intelligence designed for leadership duty
  • not Enlightened
  • Synthflesh shell designed by collaboration between Japanese and Chinese iterators for maximum demographic appeal
[ ]Alex O'Shea-The Cyberspace Cowboy:
  • Ex-Virtual Adept superhacker
  • Self-taught coder and hacker, known authority problems
  • Spheres: Correspondence 4 (Digital Web), Forces 4 (Electronics), Mind 4 (AI), Prime 4 (Programming)
  • Extensive VA and masses hacker contacts after having cleared their name of false Neffandery accusations
  • Targeted by Pentex for termination due to cyberattacks against Pentex electronic infrastructure
  • Extensive neural augmentation-ADEI, superconducting neural shunts, integrated AI submind assistant, implanted electromagnetic effector system
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops 3 Kill/Death Ratio: 11.29 (reported 19,248 times for hacking)
Hah. Heh. Let's grab both her and the ex-VA hacker. It'll be great. Our new team could use a core for humor and drama. On the other hand, it also makes me want to throw in Alya al-Saud in there too, furthermore. :V

... More seriously though, I actually do want to grab Alex. I kinda want to see "people with Traditions contacts" getting into more leadership positions and places of power.

I think that could take things in an interesting direction. Having people who can make contact with the Traditions, and who were influenced by Traditions, getting more power or networking. And then seeing what they can do in the future. ((Okay, sure, it might be not be the best idea. But it's an interesting direction to take, I think. If it pays off in the future.))

[ ]Lieutenant Anjali Sylia-The Champion:
  • Recruited into Iteration X 06/2004 from MIT after Awakening ~01/2004, was offered, and accepted, transfer to Shock Corps due to high test scores for tactical problem solving, bravery, and mental resilience
  • Married Macrotechnician Adrian Sylia 11/2014. 2 children, Parvati Elene Sylia (decanted 09/2015), Richard Aditya Sylia (decanted 10/2015).
... Any relation to Antoinette Sylia?
[ ]Agent Alya al-Saud-The Dilettante: A look at Alya al-Saud's academic credentials would impress anyone in the Ivory Tower or Syndicate. Her family expected her to become a young influencer who could advance the Syndicate's causes and long-term plans. Instead, she took a completely different turn and decided to go play soldier, using her contacts to get tactical training and augmentation and use that to get a position in the Enforcers. Due to family influence, she's promptly gotten stuck in operations she's utterly overqualified for-it's hardly necessary to send an Enlightened, heavily augmented agent to deal with Pentex paying local gangs to harass the employees of rivals in bane-tainted drugs. She clearly has some talent-her skills are perfectly adequate for the job and Kessler thinks that if she's forced to apply herself rather than coast on connections and augmentations she'll improve rapidly. But right now, she's a middling mage whose benefit would largely be in exploiting her connections-and if handled poorly, she could become a liability.
  • Augmented Enforcer (direct action concentration)
  • Graduated Damian 06/2000 with the equivalent of a MBA, a Ph.D in economics, and a LLB. Admitted to Bentham Tactical Operations program 09/2001, after prior third-party private training in tactical operations. Graduated from Bentham with a General Tactical Operations Certification and an Intermediate Espionage Certification 11/2004.
  • Spheres: Correspondence 1, Dimensional Science 2, Entropy 1, Forces 1, Life 2, Mind 2, Primal Utility 2
  • Extensive genetic enhancement-muscle strength, speed and endurance improvements, skeletal fullerene deposits, improved cardiovascular effectiveness, improved memory and cognitive/reaction speed, improved sensory acuity, improved healing and toxin/bioweapon resistance
  • Cybernetic augmentation-ADEI with tactical submodules, nanomedical implants, Primium bone lacing, fullerene skinweave, precision skeletal joint micromotors, implanted SAFEGUARD shield generator for vital organ protection
  • Extensive but shallow expertise in many fields, polyglot
  • Family contacts provide her with high-end equipment and extensive resources despite low-priority missions. Extensive wardrobe of fullerene-weave smart clothing with integrated offensive and defensive functions.
  • Mostly untested in combat against near-peer or peer opponents. However, analysis of prior combat engagements shows adequate understanding of ranged and close-combat fundamentals and high-end tactical training.
  • Known to the public as "that Saudi princess who seems to spend most of her time just accumulating random degrees and occasionally posts fashion photos on Instagram." Nobody really understands how she manages to still keep up with fashion trends while accumulating degrees for no reason. Nobody would expect her to be able to crush a man's skull in one hand like a grape either. However, the masses impression that she's basically just wasting her talent is probably accurate.
  • Considered a bad influence on Aqidah al-Saud, which is probably why the two are in regular contact via instant messaging.
Okay and this is really familiar, especially the "after prior third-party private training in tactical operations" which sounds a lot like the "taught herself from playing XCOM" like that Aqidah Bint Emmanuelle Al-Saudiyah girl from the "Welcome to the Machine: The State of the Union Address" interlude by EarthSc--
  • Considered a bad influence on Aqidah al-Saud, which is probably why the two are in regular contact via instant messaging.
--ah. Well, okay. Yeah. So she is related.
 
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